Re: SM 2.48 (Win-32) mail client phantom account entry

2017-08-02 Thread User

WaltS48 wrote on 2017.08.02 18:07:

On 8/2/17 8:53 PM, User wrote:

I recently manually upgraded from SM 2.46 to SM 2.48 by performing a full 2.46
uninstall and then installing the new 2.48. Everything works completely fine
as before when I do all my SM upgrades completely manually by first fully
uninstalling the previous version. However, I noticed a problem with the mail
client section whereby one of my accounts has a PHANTOM account icon appearing
above it and it is not really an actual mail account. Meanwhile, all the mail
filters I have created for an actual real mail account directly below the
phantom account icon, now fails to work, even though otherwise that mail
account works normally. I have some mail filters on the account which moves
INBOX mails to another account in the mail client and when incoming mail fits
the criteria of the mail filters and it tries to perform a move action, it
says that the INBOX of the account is missing and then fails to move the
e-mails and leaves them in the account after move failure. I'm wondering if
anyone else has had such a phantom account icon appear in the mail client
after 2.48 upgrade. I'm currently pondering whether this problem is caused by
the mail filter's logic / action which triggered a new SM mail client bug that
previously didn't exist until 2.48, or simply deleting the mail filters and
recreating them will solve the problem.

I would prefer not to have to move the entire mail accounts e-mail files off
to a temporary folder, delete the entire mail account and then move them back
in to see if the problem will resolve and the phantom account icon disappear.
I can't delete the phantom account either and it appears to be a ghost of the
real account directly below it. I have made a screen capture of this problem
and attached it to this post. For privacy reasons, the details of all the real
mail accounts and newsgroups have been blurred out. However, the phantom mail
account on which the highlight bar is located on, is shown. Only an icon is
show with no annotation on this phantom mail account.



After wasting a couple of hours trying to resolve this problem in SM 2.48 mail
client, I have reverted to version 2.46. This is probably the worst SM mail
client problem I have encountered to date. All previous version upgraded
manually without problems. When in 2.48, I tried to delete the real e-mail
account directly below the phantom account and that did remove the phantom
account. So I thought that the problem was solved. I then recreated the e-mail
account in 2.48 and the phantom account did not appear above it. However,
because my e-mail files for that particular account reside on a folder that is
different from the default mail folder that the mail client uses, I would
change the mail folder path for that account. I then discovered that after
updating this parameter and when SM restarts, the phantom mail account icon
reappeared. Very frustrating.

Furthermore, what's more disturbing is that in the process of deleting the
account and re-creating it, the mail client appears to lose track of and get
confused about which account was deleted, and in fact some other real e-mail
accounts above the phantom account disappeared, even though strangely, when
examining the MAIL AND NEWSGROUP ACCOUNT SETTINGS window, all mail accounts
are still present even though some are NOT displayed in the mail client
itself, therefore there was no way to access the contents of the mail account.

In summary, it appears the phantom mail account icon displayed in the mail
client arises from some confusion of the mail client's tracking of accounts
and their associated mail folder locations. It appears that as soon as a mail
account's file path is updated to the non-default file path, the phantom mail
account appears in the mail client. The reason why I suspect this is related
to the cause of this new bug in SM 2.48 mail client, is because all MAIL
FILTER management window completely loses track of all the available mail
accounts and mail folders, and all existing mail filter rules for the mail
account that is displayed immediately below the phantom mail account, becomes
unavailable to the mail client.

Furthermore, when a mail account is deleted, sometimes the phantom mail
account does not disappear and the phantom account then "plagues" the next
available real mail account below it, and causes the same problem. This issue
and associated problems essentially renders the SM 2.48 mail client risky and
completely unuseable for me. I have over 10 e-mail accounts managed by the
mail client plus half a dozen newsgroups and it's unacceptable that potential
loss of an account can occur because the mail client gets confused about which
account is located where or gets accounts mixed up when deleting accounts and
creating them. I've been forced to go back to SM 2.46 which is completely
stable as far as the mail client goes. This is the very first time I've ever
had any mail client problems 

Re: SM 2.48 (Win-32) mail client phantom account entry

2017-08-02 Thread WaltS48

On 8/2/17 8:53 PM, User wrote:
I recently manually upgraded from SM 2.46 to SM 2.48 by performing a 
full 2.46 uninstall and then installing the new 2.48. Everything works 
completely fine as before when I do all my SM upgrades completely 
manually by first fully uninstalling the previous version. However, I 
noticed a problem with the mail client section whereby one of my 
accounts has a PHANTOM account icon appearing above it and it is not 
really an actual mail account. Meanwhile, all the mail filters I have 
created for an actual real mail account directly below the phantom 
account icon, now fails to work, even though otherwise that mail account 
works normally. I have some mail filters on the account which moves 
INBOX mails to another account in the mail client and when incoming mail 
fits the criteria of the mail filters and it tries to perform a move 
action, it says that the INBOX of the account is missing and then fails 
to move the e-mails and leaves them in the account after move failure. 
I'm wondering if anyone else has had such a phantom account icon appear 
in the mail client after 2.48 upgrade. I'm currently pondering whether 
this problem is caused by the mail filter's logic / action which 
triggered a new SM mail client bug that previously didn't exist until 
2.48, or simply deleting the mail filters and recreating them will solve 
the problem.


I would prefer not to have to move the entire mail accounts e-mail files 
off to a temporary folder, delete the entire mail account and then move 
them back in to see if the problem will resolve and the phantom account 
icon disappear. I can't delete the phantom account either and it appears 
to be a ghost of the real account directly below it. I have made a 
screen capture of this problem and attached it to this post. For privacy 
reasons, the details of all the real mail accounts and newsgroups have 
been blurred out. However, the phantom mail account on which the 
highlight bar is located on, is shown. Only an icon is show with no 
annotation on this phantom mail account.




After wasting a couple of hours trying to resolve this problem in SM 
2.48 mail client, I have reverted to version 2.46. This is probably the 
worst SM mail client problem I have encountered to date. All previous 
version upgraded manually without problems. When in 2.48, I tried to 
delete the real e-mail account directly below the phantom account and 
that did remove the phantom account. So I thought that the problem was 
solved. I then recreated the e-mail account in 2.48 and the phantom 
account did not appear above it. However, because my e-mail files for 
that particular account reside on a folder that is different from the 
default mail folder that the mail client uses, I would change the mail 
folder path for that account. I then discovered that after updating this 
parameter and when SM restarts, the phantom mail account icon 
reappeared. Very frustrating.


Furthermore, what's more disturbing is that in the process of deleting 
the account and re-creating it, the mail client appears to lose track of 
and get confused about which account was deleted, and in fact some other 
real e-mail accounts above the phantom account disappeared, even though 
strangely, when examining the MAIL AND NEWSGROUP ACCOUNT SETTINGS 
window, all mail accounts are still present even though some are NOT 
displayed in the mail client itself, therefore there was no way to 
access the contents of the mail account.


In summary, it appears the phantom mail account icon displayed in the 
mail client arises from some confusion of the mail client's tracking of 
accounts and their associated mail folder locations. It appears that as 
soon as a mail account's file path is updated to the non-default file 
path, the phantom mail account appears in the mail client. The reason 
why I suspect this is related to the cause of this new bug in SM 2.48 
mail client, is because all MAIL FILTER management window completely 
loses track of all the available mail accounts and mail folders, and all 
existing mail filter rules for the mail account that is displayed 
immediately below the phantom mail account, becomes unavailable to the 
mail client.


Furthermore, when a mail account is deleted, sometimes the phantom mail 
account does not disappear and the phantom account then "plagues" the 
next available real mail account below it, and causes the same problem. 
This issue and associated problems essentially renders the SM 2.48 mail 
client risky and completely unuseable for me. I have over 10 e-mail 
accounts managed by the mail client plus half a dozen newsgroups and 
it's unacceptable that potential loss of an account can occur because 
the mail client gets confused about which account is located where or 
gets accounts mixed up when deleting accounts and creating them. I've 
been forced to go back to SM 2.46 which is completely stable as far as 
the mail client goes. This is the very first time I've 

SM 2.48 (Win-32) mail client phantom account entry

2017-08-02 Thread User
I recently manually upgraded from SM 2.46 to SM 2.48 by performing a full 2.46 
uninstall and then installing the new 2.48. Everything works completely fine as 
before when I do all my SM upgrades completely manually by first fully 
uninstalling the previous version. However, I noticed a problem with the mail 
client section whereby one of my accounts has a PHANTOM account icon appearing 
above it and it is not really an actual mail account. Meanwhile, all the mail 
filters I have created for an actual real mail account directly below the 
phantom account icon, now fails to work, even though otherwise that mail account 
works normally. I have some mail filters on the account which moves INBOX mails 
to another account in the mail client and when incoming mail fits the criteria 
of the mail filters and it tries to perform a move action, it says that the 
INBOX of the account is missing and then fails to move the e-mails and leaves 
them in the account after move failure. I'm wondering if anyone else has had 
such a phantom account icon appear in the mail client after 2.48 upgrade. I'm 
currently pondering whether this problem is caused by the mail filter's logic / 
action which triggered a new SM mail client bug that previously didn't exist 
until 2.48, or simply deleting the mail filters and recreating them will solve 
the problem.


I would prefer not to have to move the entire mail accounts e-mail files off to 
a temporary folder, delete the entire mail account and then move them back in to 
see if the problem will resolve and the phantom account icon disappear. I can't 
delete the phantom account either and it appears to be a ghost of the real 
account directly below it. I have made a screen capture of this problem and 
attached it to this post. For privacy reasons, the details of all the real mail 
accounts and newsgroups have been blurred out. However, the phantom mail account 
on which the highlight bar is located on, is shown. Only an icon is show with no 
annotation on this phantom mail account.




After wasting a couple of hours trying to resolve this problem in SM 2.48 mail 
client, I have reverted to version 2.46. This is probably the worst SM mail 
client problem I have encountered to date. All previous version upgraded 
manually without problems. When in 2.48, I tried to delete the real e-mail 
account directly below the phantom account and that did remove the phantom 
account. So I thought that the problem was solved. I then recreated the e-mail 
account in 2.48 and the phantom account did not appear above it. However, 
because my e-mail files for that particular account reside on a folder that is 
different from the default mail folder that the mail client uses, I would change 
the mail folder path for that account. I then discovered that after updating 
this parameter and when SM restarts, the phantom mail account icon reappeared. 
Very frustrating.


Furthermore, what's more disturbing is that in the process of deleting the 
account and re-creating it, the mail client appears to lose track of and get 
confused about which account was deleted, and in fact some other real e-mail 
accounts above the phantom account disappeared, even though strangely, when 
examining the MAIL AND NEWSGROUP ACCOUNT SETTINGS window, all mail accounts are 
still present even though some are NOT displayed in the mail client itself, 
therefore there was no way to access the contents of the mail account.


In summary, it appears the phantom mail account icon displayed in the mail 
client arises from some confusion of the mail client's tracking of accounts and 
their associated mail folder locations. It appears that as soon as a mail 
account's file path is updated to the non-default file path, the phantom mail 
account appears in the mail client. The reason why I suspect this is related to 
the cause of this new bug in SM 2.48 mail client, is because all MAIL FILTER 
management window completely loses track of all the available mail accounts and 
mail folders, and all existing mail filter rules for the mail account that is 
displayed immediately below the phantom mail account, becomes unavailable to the 
mail client.


Furthermore, when a mail account is deleted, sometimes the phantom mail account 
does not disappear and the phantom account then "plagues" the next available 
real mail account below it, and causes the same problem. This issue and 
associated problems essentially renders the SM 2.48 mail client risky and 
completely unuseable for me. I have over 10 e-mail accounts managed by the mail 
client plus half a dozen newsgroups and it's unacceptable that potential loss of 
an account can occur because the mail client gets confused about which account 
is located where or gets accounts mixed up when deleting accounts and creating 
them. I've been forced to go back to SM 2.46 which is completely stable as far 
as the mail client goes. This is the very first time I've ever had any mail 
client problems doing