Re: SM doesnot show the Title or erratically

2015-02-06 Thread Jonathan N. Little

Ray_Net wrote:

h Internet Explorer you are not obliged to go slowly, it react immediately.


I explained why.



See my reply titled -- [SOLVED] Re: SM doesnot show the Title or
erratically


I also listed better options for your fix

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Re: SM doesnot show the Title or erratically

2015-02-05 Thread Ray_Net

EE wrote on 05/02/2015 20:36:

Ray_Net wrote:

EE wrote on 04/02/2015 20:27:

Ray_Net wrote:

I prepare a web page  to see positions on a map for hiking/walking
activities ..

and with SM the title of the img is shown when the mouse go over it ..
but sometimes showing it and sometimes NOT showing it.

With Internet Explorer ... All goes well:
1. The Title is ALWAYS shown
2. It goes 3 times faster.

The url to test is
http://home.scarlet.be/~rs268454/CARTE-GOOGLE/MAP-RANDOS.HTM


You mean tooltips that show up with some of the images.  Those are not
called titles.  It seems to be very picky about where you place the
cursor.  It has to be exact, or no tooltip shows up.


It's titles .. look at the source --- title: 'Après-midi-sympa
3090-Tombeek',
and because it's recognised as that reserved word by

https://maps.googleapis.com/maps/api/js
view-source:https://maps.googleapis.com/maps/api/js

It has not to be exact because:
- When the cursor change to a hand ... the text must be shown.
- It works perfectly with Internet Explorer.
- It works better after i decrease drastically the number of errors
detected by W3C.


It was very picky when I tried that.  I had to position the cursor on 
just the right spot, or I got nothing.


All the position-icons must give a text - this is not the case (if you 
go to fast between one position-icon to another)
And the related text is shown when the mouse-pointer is changed on a 
pointing finger.


With Internet Explorer you are not obliged to go slowly, it react 
immediately.


See my reply titled -- [SOLVED] Re: SM doesnot show the Title or 
erratically

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Re: SM doesnot show the Title or erratically

2015-02-05 Thread EE

Ray_Net wrote:

EE wrote on 04/02/2015 20:27:

Ray_Net wrote:

I prepare a web page  to see positions on a map for hiking/walking
activities ..

and with SM the title of the img is shown when the mouse go over it ..
but sometimes showing it and sometimes NOT showing it.

With Internet Explorer ... All goes well:
1. The Title is ALWAYS shown
2. It goes 3 times faster.

The url to test is
http://home.scarlet.be/~rs268454/CARTE-GOOGLE/MAP-RANDOS.HTM


You mean tooltips that show up with some of the images.  Those are not
called titles.  It seems to be very picky about where you place the
cursor.  It has to be exact, or no tooltip shows up.


It's titles .. look at the source --- title: 'Après-midi-sympa
3090-Tombeek',
and because it's recognised as that reserved word by

https://maps.googleapis.com/maps/api/js
view-source:https://maps.googleapis.com/maps/api/js

It has not to be exact because:
- When the cursor change to a hand ... the text must be shown.
- It works perfectly with Internet Explorer.
- It works better after i decrease drastically the number of errors
detected by W3C.


It was very picky when I tried that.  I had to position the cursor on 
just the right spot, or I got nothing.


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Re: SM doesnot show the Title or erratically

2015-02-04 Thread Ray_Net

WaltS48 wrote on 04/02/2015 16:59:

On 02/04/2015 10:37 AM, Ray_Net wrote:

Yamo' wrote on 04/02/2015 10:50:

Hi,

Ray_Net a écrit le 04/02/2015 09:28 :

I prepare a web page  to see positions on a map for hiking/walking
activities ..

and with SM the title of the img is shown when the mouse go over it ..
but sometimes showing it and sometimes NOT showing it.

With Internet Explorer ... All goes well:
1. The Title is ALWAYS shown
2. It goes 3 times faster.

The url to test is
http://home.scarlet.be/~rs268454/CARTE-GOOGLE/MAP-RANDOS.HTM


There's trouble in the code :
http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fhome.scarlet.be%2F~rs268454%2FCARTE-GOOGLE%2FMAP-RANDOS.HTMcharset=%28detect+automatically%29doctype=Inlinegroup=0 




I do not have IE.


And do you think that those errors causes the trouble ?... i don't
think so.



I think you should try and fix them.

Typical values for type are type=text/css for style and 
type=text/javascript for script.


From my limited knowledge, that tells the browser what it should be 
interpreting.



Thanks, i will give a try.
Anyway, i have corrected pretty all errors - and it seems that the page 
works better.

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Re: SM doesnot show the Title or erratically

2015-02-04 Thread Yamo'
Hi,

Ray_Net a écrit le 04/02/2015 09:28 :
 I prepare a web page  to see positions on a map for hiking/walking 
 activities ..
 
 and with SM the title of the img is shown when the mouse go over it .. 
 but sometimes showing it and sometimes NOT showing it.
 
 With Internet Explorer ... All goes well:
 1. The Title is ALWAYS shown
 2. It goes 3 times faster.
 
 The url to test is 
 http://home.scarlet.be/~rs268454/CARTE-GOOGLE/MAP-RANDOS.HTM


There's trouble in the code :
http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fhome.scarlet.be%2F~rs268454%2FCARTE-GOOGLE%2FMAP-RANDOS.HTMcharset=%28detect+automatically%29doctype=Inlinegroup=0

I do not have IE.

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SM doesnot show the Title or erratically

2015-02-04 Thread Ray_Net
I prepare a web page  to see positions on a map for hiking/walking 
activities ..


and with SM the title of the img is shown when the mouse go over it .. 
but sometimes showing it and sometimes NOT showing it.


With Internet Explorer ... All goes well:
1. The Title is ALWAYS shown
2. It goes 3 times faster.

The url to test is 
http://home.scarlet.be/~rs268454/CARTE-GOOGLE/MAP-RANDOS.HTM

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Re: SM doesnot show the Title or erratically

2015-02-04 Thread EE

Ray_Net wrote:

I prepare a web page  to see positions on a map for hiking/walking
activities ..

and with SM the title of the img is shown when the mouse go over it ..
but sometimes showing it and sometimes NOT showing it.

With Internet Explorer ... All goes well:
1. The Title is ALWAYS shown
2. It goes 3 times faster.

The url to test is
http://home.scarlet.be/~rs268454/CARTE-GOOGLE/MAP-RANDOS.HTM


You mean tooltips that show up with some of the images.  Those are not 
called titles.  It seems to be very picky about where you place the 
cursor.  It has to be exact, or no tooltip shows up.


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Re: SM doesnot show the Title or erratically

2015-02-04 Thread Ray_Net

EE wrote on 04/02/2015 20:27:

Ray_Net wrote:

I prepare a web page  to see positions on a map for hiking/walking
activities ..

and with SM the title of the img is shown when the mouse go over it ..
but sometimes showing it and sometimes NOT showing it.

With Internet Explorer ... All goes well:
1. The Title is ALWAYS shown
2. It goes 3 times faster.

The url to test is
http://home.scarlet.be/~rs268454/CARTE-GOOGLE/MAP-RANDOS.HTM


You mean tooltips that show up with some of the images.  Those are not 
called titles.  It seems to be very picky about where you place the 
cursor.  It has to be exact, or no tooltip shows up.


It's titles .. look at the source --- title: 'Après-midi-sympa 
3090-Tombeek',

and because it's recognised as that reserved word by

https://maps.googleapis.com/maps/api/js  
view-source:https://maps.googleapis.com/maps/api/js

It has not to be exact because:
- When the cursor change to a hand ... the text must be shown.
- It works perfectly with Internet Explorer.
- It works better after i decrease drastically the number of errors 
detected by W3C.

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Re: SM doesnot show the Title or erratically

2015-02-04 Thread Ray_Net

WaltS48 wrote on 04/02/2015 16:59:

On 02/04/2015 10:37 AM, Ray_Net wrote:

Yamo' wrote on 04/02/2015 10:50:

Hi,

Ray_Net a écrit le 04/02/2015 09:28 :

I prepare a web page  to see positions on a map for hiking/walking
activities ..

and with SM the title of the img is shown when the mouse go over it ..
but sometimes showing it and sometimes NOT showing it.

With Internet Explorer ... All goes well:
1. The Title is ALWAYS shown
2. It goes 3 times faster.

The url to test is
http://home.scarlet.be/~rs268454/CARTE-GOOGLE/MAP-RANDOS.HTM


There's trouble in the code :
http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fhome.scarlet.be%2F~rs268454%2FCARTE-GOOGLE%2FMAP-RANDOS.HTMcharset=%28detect+automatically%29doctype=Inlinegroup=0 




I do not have IE.


And do you think that those errors causes the trouble ?... i don't
think so.



I think you should try and fix them.

Typical values for type are type=text/css for style and 
type=text/javascript for script.


From my limited knowledge, that tells the browser what it should be 
interpreting.



I have changed my source with your ideas and now this page pass the
W3C HTML validator
http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fhome.scarlet.be%2F~rs268454%2FCARTE-GOOGLE%2FMAP-RANDOS.HTMcharset=%28detect+automatically%29doctype=Inlinegroup=0
and also pass the
W3C CSS validator
http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/validator?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fhome.scarlet.be%2F~rs268454%2FCARTE-GOOGLE%2FMAP-RANDOS.HTM

BUT THE problem is still present. so it should be a SM bug ? no ?

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Re: SM doesnot show the Title or erratically

2015-02-04 Thread Jonathan N. Little

Ray_Net wrote:

EE wrote on 04/02/2015 20:27:

Ray_Net wrote:

I prepare a web page  to see positions on a map for hiking/walking
activities ..

and with SM the title of the img is shown when the mouse go over it ..
but sometimes showing it and sometimes NOT showing it.

With Internet Explorer ... All goes well:
1. The Title is ALWAYS shown
2. It goes 3 times faster.

The url to test is
http://home.scarlet.be/~rs268454/CARTE-GOOGLE/MAP-RANDOS.HTM


You mean tooltips that show up with some of the images.  Those are not
called titles.  It seems to be very picky about where you place the
cursor.  It has to be exact, or no tooltip shows up.


It's titles .. look at the source --- title: 'Après-midi-sympa
3090-Tombeek',
and because it's recognised as that reserved word by

https://maps.googleapis.com/maps/api/js
view-source:https://maps.googleapis.com/maps/api/js

It has not to be exact because:
- When the cursor change to a hand ... the text must be shown.
- It works perfectly with Internet Explorer.
- It works better after i decrease drastically the number of errors
detected by W3C.


It work just fine http://www.littleworksstudio.com/temp/usenet/tooltip

However, the TITLE attribute on HTML elements behavior may vary from 
useragent to useragent.


http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/struct/global.html#adef-title
Values of the title attribute may be rendered by user agents in a 
variety of ways. For instance, visual browsers frequently display the 
title as a tool tip (a short message that appears when the pointing 
device pauses over an object). Audio user agents may speak the title 
information in a similar context. For example, setting the attribute on 
a link allows user agents (visual and non-visual) to tell users about 
the nature of the linked resource


Whether or not tooltip is display, for how long, and how much text that 
they can contain you really cannot depend on being consistent. So it is 
a bad idea to rely on it for *important* content.


Next your pins are very close together and even overlap so it can be a 
factor the quirkiness. Plus MSIE event model is different from other 
browsers which could also be a factor.


Maybe better to use a CSS or JavaScript tooltip which would give you 
more control over the tip. http://csstooltip.com/


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Re: SM doesnot show the Title or erratically

2015-02-04 Thread WaltS48

On 02/04/2015 04:21 PM, Ray_Net wrote:

WaltS48 wrote on 04/02/2015 16:59:

On 02/04/2015 10:37 AM, Ray_Net wrote:

Yamo' wrote on 04/02/2015 10:50:

Hi,

Ray_Net a écrit le 04/02/2015 09:28 :

I prepare a web page  to see positions on a map for hiking/walking
activities ..

and with SM the title of the img is shown when the mouse go over it ..
but sometimes showing it and sometimes NOT showing it.

With Internet Explorer ... All goes well:
1. The Title is ALWAYS shown
2. It goes 3 times faster.

The url to test is
http://home.scarlet.be/~rs268454/CARTE-GOOGLE/MAP-RANDOS.HTM


There's trouble in the code :
http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fhome.scarlet.be%2F~rs268454%2FCARTE-GOOGLE%2FMAP-RANDOS.HTMcharset=%28detect+automatically%29doctype=Inlinegroup=0



I do not have IE.


And do you think that those errors causes the trouble ?... i don't
think so.



I think you should try and fix them.

Typical values for type are type=text/css for style and
type=text/javascript for script.

From my limited knowledge, that tells the browser what it should be
interpreting.


I have changed my source with your ideas and now this page pass the
W3C HTML validator
http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fhome.scarlet.be%2F~rs268454%2FCARTE-GOOGLE%2FMAP-RANDOS.HTMcharset=%28detect+automatically%29doctype=Inlinegroup=0

and also pass the
W3C CSS validator
http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/validator?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fhome.scarlet.be%2F~rs268454%2FCARTE-GOOGLE%2FMAP-RANDOS.HTM


BUT THE problem is still present. so it should be a SM bug ? no ?




No. It doesn't always work in my Firefox 36.0b6. Just 99.9% of the time.

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Re: SM doesnot show the Title or erratically

2015-02-04 Thread WaltS48

On 02/04/2015 10:37 AM, Ray_Net wrote:

Yamo' wrote on 04/02/2015 10:50:

Hi,

Ray_Net a écrit le 04/02/2015 09:28 :

I prepare a web page  to see positions on a map for hiking/walking
activities ..

and with SM the title of the img is shown when the mouse go over it ..
but sometimes showing it and sometimes NOT showing it.

With Internet Explorer ... All goes well:
1. The Title is ALWAYS shown
2. It goes 3 times faster.

The url to test is
http://home.scarlet.be/~rs268454/CARTE-GOOGLE/MAP-RANDOS.HTM


There's trouble in the code :
http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fhome.scarlet.be%2F~rs268454%2FCARTE-GOOGLE%2FMAP-RANDOS.HTMcharset=%28detect+automatically%29doctype=Inlinegroup=0


I do not have IE.


And do you think that those errors causes the trouble ?... i don't
think so.



I think you should try and fix them.

Typical values for type are type=text/css for style and type=text/javascript for 
script.

From my limited knowledge, that tells the browser what it should be 
interpreting.

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Re: SM doesnot show the Title or erratically

2015-02-04 Thread David E. Ross
On 2/4/2015 1:21 PM, Ray_Net wrote:
 WaltS48 wrote on 04/02/2015 16:59:
 On 02/04/2015 10:37 AM, Ray_Net wrote:
 Yamo' wrote on 04/02/2015 10:50:
 Hi,

 Ray_Net a écrit le 04/02/2015 09:28 :
 I prepare a web page  to see positions on a map for hiking/walking
 activities ..

 and with SM the title of the img is shown when the mouse go over it ..
 but sometimes showing it and sometimes NOT showing it.

 With Internet Explorer ... All goes well:
 1. The Title is ALWAYS shown
 2. It goes 3 times faster.

 The url to test is
 http://home.scarlet.be/~rs268454/CARTE-GOOGLE/MAP-RANDOS.HTM

 There's trouble in the code :
 http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fhome.scarlet.be%2F~rs268454%2FCARTE-GOOGLE%2FMAP-RANDOS.HTMcharset=%28detect+automatically%29doctype=Inlinegroup=0
  



 I do not have IE.

 And do you think that those errors causes the trouble ?... i don't
 think so.


 I think you should try and fix them.

 Typical values for type are type=text/css for style and 
 type=text/javascript for script.

 From my limited knowledge, that tells the browser what it should be 
 interpreting.

 I have changed my source with your ideas and now this page pass the
 W3C HTML validator
 http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fhome.scarlet.be%2F~rs268454%2FCARTE-GOOGLE%2FMAP-RANDOS.HTMcharset=%28detect+automatically%29doctype=Inlinegroup=0
 and also pass the
 W3C CSS validator
 http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/validator?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fhome.scarlet.be%2F~rs268454%2FCARTE-GOOGLE%2FMAP-RANDOS.HTM
 
 BUT THE problem is still present. so it should be a SM bug ? no ?
 

Since WaltS48 sees the same problem in Firefox, it is likely either a
Core or Toolkit bug, not a SeaMonkey bug.  If you submit a bug report,
please reply in this thread with the bug number.

Despite the HTML markup attribute title, the display is called a
tooltip.  In a display window, title is what appears in the window's
title bar.  It also appears when you select [View  Page Info  General]
on the SeaMonkey menu bar; it appears bold just above the Address.

What I see is that, once you get a tooltip on the map for La boule
(either color), you cannot get further tooltips until you move your
cursor off the map and then back onto the map.  On the other hand, if
you get a tooltip for L'étoile (either color) you can get one more
tooltip for any of the indicators but not more, unless (again) you move
your cursor off the map and then back onto it.

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be used when autocomplete=off.  See
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=433238.
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Re: SM doesnot show the Title or erratically

2015-02-04 Thread Ray_Net

Yamo' wrote on 04/02/2015 10:50:

Hi,

Ray_Net a écrit le 04/02/2015 09:28 :

I prepare a web page  to see positions on a map for hiking/walking
activities ..

and with SM the title of the img is shown when the mouse go over it ..
but sometimes showing it and sometimes NOT showing it.

With Internet Explorer ... All goes well:
1. The Title is ALWAYS shown
2. It goes 3 times faster.

The url to test is
http://home.scarlet.be/~rs268454/CARTE-GOOGLE/MAP-RANDOS.HTM


There's trouble in the code :
http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fhome.scarlet.be%2F~rs268454%2FCARTE-GOOGLE%2FMAP-RANDOS.HTMcharset=%28detect+automatically%29doctype=Inlinegroup=0

I do not have IE.

And do you think that those errors causes the trouble ?... i don't 
think so.

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