Re: SM2.0 from Win2K to Win7

2009-12-03 Thread Martin Freitag

S. Beaulieu schrieb:

Martin Freitag a écrit :


Select the proper encoding there at the top (above the fonts).
Common encodings are Western and Unicode. If you change the fixed width
font for both, it should have an effect.



It changes the fonts in the body of emails/newsgroup messages, but
nowhere else.

Correct, this was one example ;-)
The others are not fixed width fonts. Feel free to change as many 
font-types as you need. (menubar might be taken from windows setting though)

For me the messages were the worst, the rest is pretty fine.
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Re: SM2.0 from Win2K to Win7

2009-12-03 Thread S. Beaulieu

Martin Freitag a écrit :

Correct, this was one example ;-)


Ah! Gotcha!

But I guess I'm getting used to it as it doesn't bother me as much as it 
did yesterday. It's only when text is bolded (for example, new messages) 
that it's really obvious, with a kind of reddish halo.


Altogether, depending on the fonts, it looks like text hasn't been 
aliased/is oversharpened or is oversmoothed. It's really strange.


Thanks for your help!

S.

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Re: SM2.0 from Win2K to Win7

2009-12-03 Thread NoOp
On 12/03/2009 10:18 AM, Martin Freitag wrote:
 S. Beaulieu schrieb:
 Martin Freitag a écrit :

 Select the proper encoding there at the top (above the fonts).
 Common encodings are Western and Unicode. If you change the fixed width
 font for both, it should have an effect.


 It changes the fonts in the body of emails/newsgroup messages, but
 nowhere else.
 Correct, this was one example ;-)
 The others are not fixed width fonts. Feel free to change as many 
 font-types as you need. (menubar might be taken from windows setting though)
 For me the messages were the worst, the rest is pretty fine.
 regards
 
 Martin

I've been able to change the fonts for message/news body, browser, menus
(system), but cannot seem to find a way to change the font size on the
the message/news headers (subject/from/date/etc). I seem to recall that
there was a fix for this using prefs.js or something in chrome, but
can't seem to find it in my files. Anyone recall how to do this - the
headers are so small on my Windows systems (Win2KPro and WinXP - default
theme) that I can barely read them.

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Re: SM2.0 from Win2K to Win7

2009-12-02 Thread Martin Freitag

Leonidas Jones schrieb:

S. Beaulieu wrote:

Well, there is only one thing: my fonts in SM (and not elsewhere, it
semms, but I haven't played much with anything but SM) now look all kind
of fuzzy/blurry, not as sharp as they were on my old computer. I've
tried playing with my screen's and Windows' settings, thinking at first
that it had to do with drivers and such, but it really seems to be
restricted to SM. Even the font itself looks slightly of different than
before (which shouldn't be the case, as I didn't change anything on that
front).

Do you have any ideas what could be causing this? Would it have to do
with my Appearance settings?

S.


Well, I'm a Mac user. I have Windows boxes, but nothing running Win7 at
this point. Perhaps a Win  user will jump in.


This is exactly the same experience I had when firing up SM on Win7. 
It's the cleartype functionality of Win7. You can try to turn it off in 
the OS (but many fonts will look pretty ugly then) or choose another 
font for things like the message display in the Seamonkey preferences, 
e.g. compare Courier and Courier New for the fixed width font and you'll 
see a huuuge difference when reading mail/newsgroup messages.

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Re: SM2.0 from Win2K to Win7

2009-12-02 Thread S. Beaulieu

Martin Freitag wrote:

or choose another
font for things like the message display in the Seamonkey preferences,
e.g. compare Courier and Courier New for the fixed width font and you'll
see a huuuge difference when reading mail/newsgroup messages.
regards



Hum. I can't seem to find how to do that. There is no font option in the 
Message display pane and the only place I find some seems to be for 
changing the default font throughout the software...


S.
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Re: SM2.0 from Win2K to Win7

2009-12-02 Thread Martin Freitag

S. Beaulieu schrieb:

Martin Freitag wrote:

or choose another
font for things like the message display in the Seamonkey preferences,
e.g. compare Courier and Courier New for the fixed width font and you'll
see a huuuge difference when reading mail/newsgroup messages.
regards



Hum. I can't seem to find how to do that. There is no font option in the
Message display pane and the only place I find some seems to be for
changing the default font throughout the software...


Edit = Preferences = Appearance = Fonts?
(fixed width at the bottom)

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Re: SM2.0 from Win2K to Win7

2009-12-02 Thread Martin Freitag

S. Beaulieu schrieb:

Martin Freitag wrote:

or choose another
font for things like the message display in the Seamonkey preferences,
e.g. compare Courier and Courier New for the fixed width font and you'll
see a huuuge difference when reading mail/newsgroup messages.
regards



Hum. I can't seem to find how to do that. There is no font option in the
Message display pane and the only place I find some seems to be for
changing the default font throughout the software...


Edit = Preferences = Appearance = Fonts?
(fixed width at the bottom)

Martin
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Re: SM2.0 from Win2K to Win7

2009-12-02 Thread S. Beaulieu

Martin Freitag a écrit :


Edit = Preferences = Appearance = Fonts?
(fixed width at the bottom)



I tried that, but it didn't change anything. I think I'm just unkowingly 
skipping a step...


S.
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Re: SM2.0 from Win2K to Win7

2009-12-02 Thread Martin Freitag

S. Beaulieu schrieb:

Martin Freitag a écrit :


Edit = Preferences = Appearance = Fonts?
(fixed width at the bottom)



I tried that, but it didn't change anything. I think I'm just unkowingly
skipping a step...


Select the proper encoding there at the top (above the fonts).
Common encodings are Western and Unicode. If you change the fixed width 
font for both, it should have an effect.

regards

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Re: SM2.0 from Win2K to Win7

2009-12-02 Thread S. Beaulieu

Martin Freitag a écrit :


Select the proper encoding there at the top (above the fonts).
Common encodings are Western and Unicode. If you change the fixed width
font for both, it should have an effect.



It changes the fonts in the body of emails/newsgroup messages, but 
nowhere else.


S.
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SM2.0 from Win2K to Win7

2009-12-01 Thread S. Beaulieu
I'll be getting a new computer either today or tomorrow. While I am 
familiar with the profile transfer process, which I've done many times 
before, I've never done it on anything more exotic than going from Win2K 
to WinXP.


So my question is, is there any specific process to use to transfer my 
2.0 profile from Win2K to Win7 or is the standard cut and paste approach 
sufficient?


Any information on this matter will be much appreciated.

S.
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Re: SM2.0 from Win2K to Win7

2009-12-01 Thread Leonidas Jones

S. Beaulieu wrote:

I'll be getting a new computer either today or tomorrow. While I am
familiar with the profile transfer process, which I've done many times
before, I've never done it on anything more exotic than going from Win2K
to WinXP.

So my question is, is there any specific process to use to transfer my
2.0 profile from Win2K to Win7 or is the standard cut and paste approach
sufficient?

Any information on this matter will be much appreciated.

S.


The standard cut and paste manual move will work, as long as you find 
the proper profile location, which is different on Win7 then on either 
2K or XP:


http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile_folder_-_SeaMonkey

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Re: SM2.0 from Win2K to Win7

2009-12-01 Thread S. Beaulieu

Leonidas Jones wrote:


The standard cut and paste manual move will work, as long as you find
the proper profile location, which is different on Win7 then on either
2K or XP:

http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile_folder_-_SeaMonkey



Thank you!

Just to be sure I was clear, my regular CP approach is to copy 
whatever is below the basic profile folder, files and all, and crush it 
over whatever is below the basic profile folder of the second computer. 
So that will still work? Colour me impressed, as I would have expected 
to be told that the infrastructure was completely different. yay for 
simplicity!


How about copying my whole default profile into the default profile 
location on the new computer *before* I installed SM on it? Would that 
also work? I've never tried that approach before.


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Re: SM2.0 from Win2K to Win7

2009-12-01 Thread Leonidas Jones

S. Beaulieu wrote:

Leonidas Jones wrote:


The standard cut and paste manual move will work, as long as you find
the proper profile location, which is different on Win7 then on either
2K or XP:

http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile_folder_-_SeaMonkey



Thank you!

Just to be sure I was clear, my regular CP approach is to copy
whatever is below the basic profile folder, files and all, and crush it
over whatever is below the basic profile folder of the second computer.
So that will still work? Colour me impressed, as I would have expected
to be told that the infrastructure was completely different. yay for
simplicity!

How about copying my whole default profile into the default profile
location on the new computer *before* I installed SM on it? Would that
also work? I've never tried that approach before.

S.


As long as you are moving a SeaMonkey 2.0 profile from Win 2K to Win 7, 
there should be no problem with your procedure.


For what its worth, here is how I go about it, which is slightly 
different then you may see elsewhere.


Copy the profile folder from the old machine.

Install SeaMonkey 2.0 on the new machine.  Use the Profile Manager to 
create its default profile.  Do not open SeaMonkey yet, just close 
Profile Manager once the new profile is created.


With SeaMonkey closed, navigate to your new profile folder, the location 
of which can be found at the link I provided earlier.  The new profile 
will be in a folder called .default.  Your old profile will be 
.(profilename).  Paste the old profile folder from the old 
machine in along side the newly created profile folder.


The x's in the above examples are actually a random string of numbers 
and letters.  (profilename) would the name of your profile from your old 
computer, which may very well be default.


For the sake of this example, say the newly created profile is 
a1b2c3d4.default, and the profile from the old machine is 
4d3c2b1a.default.  Make a note of the newly created profile name.


Rename this newly created profile to a1b2c3d4.defaultold.  Then rename 
your old machine profile, 4d3c2b1a.default to a1b2c3d4.default.


In short, rename the profile you are moving to the same name as the one 
you just created.  Close out, then start SeaMonkey.  You should see your 
moved profile with all the data you had on Win2K.


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Re: SM2.0 from Win2K to Win7

2009-12-01 Thread Danny Kile

S. Beaulieu wrote:

I'll be getting a new computer either today or tomorrow. While I am
familiar with the profile transfer process, which I've done many times
before, I've never done it on anything more exotic than going from Win2K
to WinXP.

So my question is, is there any specific process to use to transfer my
2.0 profile from Win2K to Win7 or is the standard cut and paste approach
sufficient?

Any information on this matter will be much appreciated.

S.


Why not just use Mozbackup, you make a backup from one PC and then do a 
restore on the second.


Link:  http://mozbackup.jasnapaka.com/
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Re: SM2.0 from Win2K to Win7

2009-12-01 Thread S. Beaulieu

Leonidas Jones wrote:


As long as you are moving a SeaMonkey 2.0 profile from Win 2K to Win 7,
there should be no problem with your procedure.



You were right! I'm writing from the new computer and the transfer was 
100% painless and easy! I just hard a hard time figuring out how to not 
have to use the Search function...


(Well, Win2K looks like crap and is definitely going to need some 
getting used to, but I guess that's besides the point!)


Thank you very much.

S.
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Re: SM2.0 from Win2K to Win7

2009-12-01 Thread Leonidas Jones

S. Beaulieu wrote:

Leonidas Jones wrote:


As long as you are moving a SeaMonkey 2.0 profile from Win 2K to Win 7,
there should be no problem with your procedure.



You were right! I'm writing from the new computer and the transfer was
100% painless and easy! I just hard a hard time figuring out how to not
have to use the Search function...

(Well, Win2K looks like crap and is definitely going to need some
getting used to, but I guess that's besides the point!)

Thank you very much.

S.


It is a pretty easy approach. I amso glad to here its working for you. 
Let us know if we can be of further help.


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Re: SM2.0 from Win2K to Win7

2009-12-01 Thread S. Beaulieu

Leonidas Jones wrote:


It is a pretty easy approach. I amso glad to here its working for you.
Let us know if we can be of further help.



Well, there is only one thing: my fonts in SM (and not elsewhere, it 
semms, but I haven't played much with anything but SM) now look all kind 
of fuzzy/blurry, not as sharp as they were on my old computer. I've 
tried playing with my screen's and Windows' settings, thinking at first 
that it had to do with drivers and such, but it really seems to be 
restricted to SM. Even the font itself looks slightly of different than 
before (which shouldn't be the case, as I didn't change anything on that 
front).


Do you have any ideas what could be causing this? Would it have to do 
with my Appearance settings?


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Re: SM2.0 from Win2K to Win7

2009-12-01 Thread Leonidas Jones

S. Beaulieu wrote:

Leonidas Jones wrote:


It is a pretty easy approach. I amso glad to here its working for you.
Let us know if we can be of further help.



Well, there is only one thing: my fonts in SM (and not elsewhere, it
semms, but I haven't played much with anything but SM) now look all kind
of fuzzy/blurry, not as sharp as they were on my old computer. I've
tried playing with my screen's and Windows' settings, thinking at first
that it had to do with drivers and such, but it really seems to be
restricted to SM. Even the font itself looks slightly of different than
before (which shouldn't be the case, as I didn't change anything on that
front).

Do you have any ideas what could be causing this? Would it have to do
with my Appearance settings?

S.


Well, I'm a Mac user.  I have Windows boxes, but nothing running Win7 at 
this point. Perhaps a Win  user will jump in.


Lee
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