Re: SeaMonkey 2.49.3 released

[Daniel]

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote on 4/08/2018 4:06 AM:
Obviously I would prefer to continue using SeaMonkey, but if the 
writing is on the wall given the limited developer support, I would

appreciate some sort of migration path to the alternatives
available.


We are not there yet. Lets first see how 2.57 works out.

FRG


Surely you mean SM 3.2 don't you, Frank-Rainer?? ;-P

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.49.3 released

[Frank-Rainer Grahl]

> Obviously I would prefer to continue using SeaMonkey, but if the writing is on
> the wall given the limited developer support, I would appreciate some sort of
> migration path to the alternatives available.

We are not there yet. Lets first see how 2.57 works out.

FRG


David H. Durgee wrote:

Daniel wrote:

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote on 3/08/2018 4:58 PM:

Fx 52.9.0 TB 52.9.1

If we change the numbering scheme for 2.57 the still working classic
 extensions would probably no longer work and would all need to be
changed.

After 2.57 I am for aligning with TB instead of 3.x but rather unsure
if we will see a later version. source is being trashed more and more
on a daily basis. No chance to pick the good parts anymore or back
out bad ones.

FRG


I hope you and the other Devs keep up your efforts as long as you can, 
Frank-Rainer ... for as long as you guys can!!




I likewise hope you can continue to create newer versions of SeaMonkey.

I have a question, however.  Should it no longer be possible to continue to 
create newer versions given the divergence of FireFox and Thunderbird from 
SeaMonkey, what options are available to make FireFox and Thunderbird more 
acceptable to SeaMonkey users?  Would it be possible to create SeaMonkey 
"themes" or their equivalent that would restore them to something more usable?


Obviously I would prefer to continue using SeaMonkey, but if the writing is on 
the wall given the limited developer support, I would appreciate some sort of 
migration path to the alternatives available.


Dave

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.49.3 released

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Daniel wrote:

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote on 3/08/2018 4:58 PM:

Fx 52.9.0 TB 52.9.1

If we change the numbering scheme for 2.57 the still working classic
 extensions would probably no longer work and would all need to be
changed.

After 2.57 I am for aligning with TB instead of 3.x but rather unsure
if we will see a later version. source is being trashed more and more
on a daily basis. No chance to pick the good parts anymore or back
out bad ones.

FRG


I hope you and the other Devs keep up your efforts as long as you can, 
Frank-Rainer ... for as long as you guys can!!




I likewise hope you can continue to create newer versions of SeaMonkey.

I have a question, however.  Should it no longer be possible to continue 
to create newer versions given the divergence of FireFox and Thunderbird 
from SeaMonkey, what options are available to make FireFox and 
Thunderbird more acceptable to SeaMonkey users?  Would it be possible to 
create SeaMonkey "themes" or their equivalent that would restore them to 
something more usable?


Obviously I would prefer to continue using SeaMonkey, but if the writing 
is on the wall given the limited developer support, I would appreciate 
some sort of migration path to the alternatives available.


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Re: SeaMonkey 2.49.3 released

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Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote on 3/08/2018 4:58 PM:

Fx 52.9.0 TB 52.9.1

If we change the numbering scheme for 2.57 the still working classic
 extensions would probably no longer work and would all need to be
changed.

After 2.57 I am for aligning with TB instead of 3.x but rather unsure
if we will see a later version. source is being trashed more and more
on a daily basis. No chance to pick the good parts anymore or back
out bad ones.

FRG


I hope you and the other Devs keep up your efforts as long as you can, 
Frank-Rainer ... for as long as you guys can!!


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Re: SeaMonkey 2.49.3 released

[Frank-Rainer Grahl]

Fx 52.9.0 TB 52.9.1

If we change the numbering scheme for 2.57 the still working classic 
extensions would probably no longer work and would all need to be changed.


After 2.57 I am for aligning with TB instead of 3.x but rather unsure if we 
will see a later version. source is being trashed more and more on a daily 
basis. No chance to pick the good parts anymore or back out bad ones.


FRG

Daniel wrote:

Cruz, Jaime wrote on 3/08/2018 8:03 AM:

Ant wrote:

Thanks. Nice find and fix even though I never ran into this bug
since I use POP3 almost daily? :)

Since SeaMonkey's ESR60 version will be the next BIG jump for, why
 don't they call it v3? It's a BIG jump and change like with
Firefox v52 to v60! Yeah, I'm not happy with the addon changes.
I'll lose a lot too! :(




Why not change the numbering scheme to keep it more in line with
Firefox ESR and Thunderbird?  52, 60, etc?  Be a lot easier to keep
track of which level of code we're using...

Back in the "good ol' days, it was easy ... SM 2.48 was equivalent to FF 
(2+48+1) 51. Not sure if that method still works now-a-days!


Is SM 2.49.4 equivalent to FF (2+49+1).4, i.e FF 52.0.4 or something??


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Re: SeaMonkey 2.49.3 released

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Cruz, Jaime wrote on 3/08/2018 8:03 AM:

Ant wrote:

Thanks. Nice find and fix even though I never ran into this bug
since I use POP3 almost daily? :)

Since SeaMonkey's ESR60 version will be the next BIG jump for, why
 don't they call it v3? It's a BIG jump and change like with
Firefox v52 to v60! Yeah, I'm not happy with the addon changes.
I'll lose a lot too! :(




Why not change the numbering scheme to keep it more in line with
Firefox ESR and Thunderbird?  52, 60, etc?  Be a lot easier to keep
track of which level of code we're using...

Back in the "good ol' days, it was easy ... SM 2.48 was equivalent to FF 
(2+48+1) 51. Not sure if that method still works now-a-days!


Is SM 2.49.4 equivalent to FF (2+49+1).4, i.e FF 52.0.4 or something??

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.49.3 released

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Ant wrote:
Thanks. Nice find and fix even though I never ran into this bug since I 
use POP3 almost daily? :)


Since SeaMonkey's ESR60 version will be the next BIG jump for, why don't 
they call it v3? It's a BIG jump and change like with Firefox v52 to 
v60! Yeah, I'm not happy with the addon changes. I'll lose a lot too! :(





Why not change the numbering scheme to keep it more in line with Firefox 
ESR and Thunderbird?  52, 60, etc?  Be a lot easier to keep track of 
which level of code we're using...



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Re: SeaMonkey 2.49.3 released

[Ant via support-seamonkey]

Thanks. Nice find and fix even though I never ran into this bug since I 
use POP3 almost daily? :)


Since SeaMonkey's ESR60 version will be the next BIG jump for, why don't 
they call it v3? It's a BIG jump and change like with Firefox v52 to 
v60! Yeah, I'm not happy with the addon changes. I'll lose a lot too! :(



On 7/29/2018 5:28 AM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
Well I frequently scan the console errors and stumbled over this one. At 
first I didn't think it was that easy to solve but after looking at the 
code...


We are currently in a fix. ESR52 2.49.x is basically eol in September. 
2.53 is only a stopgap for testing and porting and will probably never 
be released. It would need l10n changes for all languages and also more 
security fixes backported. Maybe we will do a beta later to see if the 
new infra is ok.


The next planned major version is 2.57 based on ESR60 but thanks to our 
Mozilla "friends" this needs some extensive changes and is nowhere ready 
for prime time.
If you want a working ad and script blocker it also needs web extension 
support which doesn't make it easier because the current implementation 
is a mess only suitable for Firefox. We need to port all the front end 
changes and make them somehow compatible.


So we will try to backport sec fixes for 2.49 a while longer. 2.49.5 
will probably appear in October if either the new infrastructure is 
ready or the old one still available for us.


As usual more devs are always welcome to speed this up :)

FRG


Ant wrote:


Wow, another minor upgrade again for a 12 years old bug according to 
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=365384. Better late than 
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Re: SeaMonkey 2.49.3 released

[Frank-Rainer Grahl]

Well I frequently scan the console errors and stumbled over this one. At first 
I didn't think it was that easy to solve but after looking at the code...


We are currently in a fix. ESR52 2.49.x is basically eol in September. 2.53 is 
only a stopgap for testing and porting and will probably never be released. It 
would need l10n changes for all languages and also more security fixes 
backported. Maybe we will do a beta later to see if the new infra is ok.


The next planned major version is 2.57 based on ESR60 but thanks to our 
Mozilla "friends" this needs some extensive changes and is nowhere ready for 
prime time.
If you want a working ad and script blocker it also needs web extension 
support which doesn't make it easier because the current implementation is a 
mess only suitable for Firefox. We need to port all the front end changes and 
make them somehow compatible.


So we will try to backport sec fixes for 2.49 a while longer. 2.49.5 will 
probably appear in October if either the new infrastructure is ready or the 
old one still available for us.


As usual more devs are always welcome to speed this up :)

FRG


Ant wrote:

On 7/28/2018 5:57 AM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
2.49.5 currently has only a minor patch for Bug 365384 in it compared to 
2.49.4...


Wow, another minor upgrade again for a 12 years old bug according to 
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=365384. Better late than never I 
guess. ;) When is v2.49.5 planned to be released? Very soon? Also, is v2.49.5 
going to the final minor version before v2.53?

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.49.3 released

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On 7/28/2018 5:57 AM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
2.49.5 currently has only a minor patch for Bug 365384 in it compared to 
2.49.4...


Wow, another minor upgrade again for a 12 years old bug according to 
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=365384. Better late than 
never I guess. ;) When is v2.49.5 planned to be released? Very soon? 
Also, is v2.49.5 going to the final minor version before v2.53?

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.49.3 released

[Frank-Rainer Grahl]

2.49.5 currently has only a minor patch for Bug 365384 in it compared to 
2.49.4. But if you want 64 bit then yes Bills 2.49.5 is the best choice.

We hope to do 64 bits builds on the new infrastructure.

FRG

Dirk Munk wrote:

Thanks FRG,

At the moment I'm running 64 bit 2.49.3 (Build identifier: 20180321130026).

Would the 2.49.5 version on the WG9s be the best update, considering stability 
etc.?



Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
> I'd like to request please to contact the 64-bit team and make a join 
release?


If you refer to https://www.m64.info/index.php/seamonkey-64-bit-download
then to everyone: Stop promoting or even mentioning this site as an 
alternative. They are not in any way associated with the SeaMonkey project. 
Previously they just copied Adrians builds without giving credit. Now they 
just host completely broken alpha comm-central nightly builds from 
https://archive.mozilla.org/pub/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-central-trunk/


You might even pick up a trojan any day from the look of the site.

Providing Windows x64 builds is tracked in:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=482143

For 2.49.x it will not happen on the current infrastucture. We are building 
a new one outside of mozilla space but this still takes some time.


If you want x64 takes Bills 2.49.x or 2.53 builds:

http://www.wg9s.com/comm-esr/

2.53 still has some problems but shapes up nicely. It has about 260 
backported patches applied to the latest Fx 56 and SeaMonkey 2.53 sources 
but is not completely up to date wrt security. Consider it beta. 2.57 will 
be the next version after the last 2.49 but still months away. 2.57 will be 
provided in offical x64 versions for Linux and Windows (or at least that is 
the plan).


FRG



Saul Luizaga wrote:
I'd like to request please to contact the 64-bit team and make a join 
release? They're a bit ahead but not making much progress and the releases 
are betas and alphas by their functioning, buggy, and really unstable in 
general, so this stable releases maybe will help them in turn, meanwhile we 
get good stable 64-bit versions that I'd prefer to use, the 4 GB RAM 
limitation causes the Browser to crash, I think, specially when many flash 
video tabs are open, the internal flash player of SeaMonkey sucks, laggy, 
and slow, and eventually makes SeaMonkey crash to be honest, so I use Adobe 
Flash Player, much better, but eventually crashes too.


Edmund Wong wrote:

Greetings,

The SeaMonkey Project is pleased to announce the release of SeaMonkey
2.49.3!

For a more complete list of changes in SeaMonkey 2.49.3, see the What's
New in SeaMonkey 2.49.3 section of the Release Notes [2], which also
contain a list of known issues and answers to frequently asked
questions. For a more general overview of the SeaMonkey project (and
screen shots!), visit www.seamonkey-project.org.

It's been a very difficult release (but it still can't compare with
2.46...  )


Links:
[1] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.49.3
[2] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.49.3/






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Re: SeaMonkey 2.49.3 released

[Dirk Munk]

Thanks FRG,

At the moment I'm running 64 bit 2.49.3 (Build identifier: 20180321130026).

Would the 2.49.5 version on the WG9s be the best update, considering 
stability etc.?



Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
> I'd like to request please to contact the 64-bit team and make a 
join release?


If you refer to https://www.m64.info/index.php/seamonkey-64-bit-download
then to everyone: Stop promoting or even mentioning this site as an 
alternative. They are not in any way associated with the SeaMonkey 
project. Previously they just copied Adrians builds without giving 
credit. Now they just host completely broken alpha comm-central 
nightly builds from 
https://archive.mozilla.org/pub/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-central-trunk/


You might even pick up a trojan any day from the look of the site.

Providing Windows x64 builds is tracked in:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=482143

For 2.49.x it will not happen on the current infrastucture. We are 
building a new one outside of mozilla space but this still takes some 
time.


If you want x64 takes Bills 2.49.x or 2.53 builds:

http://www.wg9s.com/comm-esr/

2.53 still has some problems but shapes up nicely. It has about 260 
backported patches applied to the latest Fx 56 and SeaMonkey 2.53 
sources but is not completely up to date wrt security. Consider it 
beta. 2.57 will be the next version after the last 2.49 but still 
months away. 2.57 will be provided in offical x64 versions for Linux 
and Windows (or at least that is the plan).


FRG



Saul Luizaga wrote:
I'd like to request please to contact the 64-bit team and make a join 
release? They're a bit ahead but not making much progress and the 
releases are betas and alphas by their functioning, buggy, and really 
unstable in general, so this stable releases maybe will help them in 
turn, meanwhile we get good stable 64-bit versions that I'd prefer to 
use, the 4 GB RAM limitation causes the Browser to crash, I think, 
specially when many flash video tabs are open, the internal flash 
player of SeaMonkey sucks, laggy, and slow, and eventually makes 
SeaMonkey crash to be honest, so I use Adobe Flash Player, much 
better, but eventually crashes too.


Edmund Wong wrote:

Greetings,

The SeaMonkey Project is pleased to announce the release of SeaMonkey
2.49.3!

For a more complete list of changes in SeaMonkey 2.49.3, see the What's
New in SeaMonkey 2.49.3 section of the Release Notes [2], which also
contain a list of known issues and answers to frequently asked
questions. For a more general overview of the SeaMonkey project (and
screen shots!), visit www.seamonkey-project.org.

It's been a very difficult release (but it still can't compare with
2.46...  )


Links:
[1] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.49.3
[2] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.49.3/





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Re: SeaMonkey 2.49.3 released

[sean]

Edmund Wong wrote:

Greetings,

The SeaMonkey Project is pleased to announce the release of SeaMonkey
2.49.3!

For a more complete list of changes in SeaMonkey 2.49.3, see the What's
New in SeaMonkey 2.49.3 section of the Release Notes [2], which also
contain a list of known issues and answers to frequently asked
questions. For a more general overview of the SeaMonkey project (and
screen shots!), visit www.seamonkey-project.org.

It's been a very difficult release (but it still can't compare with
2.46...  )


Links:
[1] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.49.3
[2] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.49.3/




Great Work Gang... just reinstalled again into the latest respin of 
PeppermintOS... beta versions being finalized for release of Peppermint 
9 in a few days...


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Re: SeaMonkey 2.49.3 released

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Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

 > I'd like to request please to contact the 64-bit team and make a join 
release?

If you refer to https://www.m64.info/index.php/seamonkey-64-bit-download
then to everyone: Stop promoting or even mentioning this site as an alternative. 
They are not in any way associated with the SeaMonkey project. Previously they 
just copied Adrians builds without giving credit. Now they just host completely 
broken alpha comm-central nightly builds from 
https://archive.mozilla.org/pub/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-central-trunk/


You might even pick up a trojan any day from the look of the site.

Providing Windows x64 builds is tracked in:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=482143

For 2.49.x it will not happen on the current infrastucture. We are building a 
new one outside of mozilla space but this still takes some time.


If you want x64 takes Bills 2.49.x or 2.53 builds:

http://www.wg9s.com/comm-esr/

2.53 still has some problems but shapes up nicely. It has about 260 backported 
patches applied to the latest Fx 56 and SeaMonkey 2.53 sources but is not 
completely up to date wrt security. Consider it beta. 2.57 will be the next 
version after the last 2.49 but still months away. 2.57 will be provided in 
offical x64 versions for Linux and Windows (or at least that is the plan).


FRG



Saul Luizaga wrote:
I'd like to request please to contact the 64-bit team and make a join release? 
They're a bit ahead but not making much progress and the releases are betas 
and alphas by their functioning, buggy, and really unstable in general, so 
this stable releases maybe will help them in turn, meanwhile we get good 
stable 64-bit versions that I'd prefer to use, the 4 GB RAM limitation causes 
the Browser to crash, I think, specially when many flash video tabs are open, 
the internal flash player of SeaMonkey sucks, laggy, and slow, and eventually 
makes SeaMonkey crash to be honest, so I use Adobe Flash Player, much better, 
but eventually crashes too.


Edmund Wong wrote:

Greetings,

The SeaMonkey Project is pleased to announce the release of SeaMonkey
2.49.3!

For a more complete list of changes in SeaMonkey 2.49.3, see the What's
New in SeaMonkey 2.49.3 section of the Release Notes [2], which also
contain a list of known issues and answers to frequently asked
questions. For a more general overview of the SeaMonkey project (and
screen shots!), visit www.seamonkey-project.org.

It's been a very difficult release (but it still can't compare with
2.46...  )


Links:
[1] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.49.3
[2] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.49.3/






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Re: SeaMonkey 2.49.3 released

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Thanks for the detailed answer. That site was the only 1 at a time where 
I could find 64-bit versions ready to be installed, maybe notifying them 
that they should give credit will fix it, I don't think their intention 
is bad, rather good IMO, I don't see that site associated with Mozilla 
or SeaMonkey, just a host site for 64-bit builds

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.49.3 released

[Frank-Rainer Grahl]

> I'd like to request please to contact the 64-bit team and make a join release?

If you refer to https://www.m64.info/index.php/seamonkey-64-bit-download
then to everyone: Stop promoting or even mentioning this site as an 
alternative. They are not in any way associated with the SeaMonkey project. 
Previously they just copied Adrians builds without giving credit. Now they 
just host completely broken alpha comm-central nightly builds from 
https://archive.mozilla.org/pub/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-central-trunk/


You might even pick up a trojan any day from the look of the site.

Providing Windows x64 builds is tracked in:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=482143

For 2.49.x it will not happen on the current infrastucture. We are building a 
new one outside of mozilla space but this still takes some time.


If you want x64 takes Bills 2.49.x or 2.53 builds:

http://www.wg9s.com/comm-esr/

2.53 still has some problems but shapes up nicely. It has about 260 backported 
patches applied to the latest Fx 56 and SeaMonkey 2.53 sources but is not 
completely up to date wrt security. Consider it beta. 2.57 will be the next 
version after the last 2.49 but still months away. 2.57 will be provided in 
offical x64 versions for Linux and Windows (or at least that is the plan).


FRG



Saul Luizaga wrote:
I'd like to request please to contact the 64-bit team and make a join release? 
They're a bit ahead but not making much progress and the releases are betas 
and alphas by their functioning, buggy, and really unstable in general, so 
this stable releases maybe will help them in turn, meanwhile we get good 
stable 64-bit versions that I'd prefer to use, the 4 GB RAM limitation causes 
the Browser to crash, I think, specially when many flash video tabs are open, 
the internal flash player of SeaMonkey sucks, laggy, and slow, and eventually 
makes SeaMonkey crash to be honest, so I use Adobe Flash Player, much better, 
but eventually crashes too.


Edmund Wong wrote:

Greetings,

The SeaMonkey Project is pleased to announce the release of SeaMonkey
2.49.3!

For a more complete list of changes in SeaMonkey 2.49.3, see the What's
New in SeaMonkey 2.49.3 section of the Release Notes [2], which also
contain a list of known issues and answers to frequently asked
questions. For a more general overview of the SeaMonkey project (and
screen shots!), visit www.seamonkey-project.org.

It's been a very difficult release (but it still can't compare with
2.46...  )


Links:
[1] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.49.3
[2] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.49.3/




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Re: SeaMonkey 2.49.3 released

[GerardJan]

Saul Luizaga wrote:
I'd like to request please to contact the 64-bit team and make a join release? 
They're a bit ahead but not making much progress and the releases are betas and 
alphas by their functioning, buggy, and really unstable in general, so this 
stable releases maybe will help them in turn, meanwhile we get good stable 
64-bit versions that I'd prefer to use, the 4 GB RAM limitation causes the 
Browser to crash, I think, specially when many flash video tabs are open, the 
internal flash player of SeaMonkey sucks, laggy, and slow, and eventually makes 
SeaMonkey crash to be honest, so I use Adobe Flash Player, much better, but 
eventually crashes too.


Edmund Wong wrote:

Greetings,

The SeaMonkey Project is pleased to announce the release of SeaMonkey
2.49.3!

For a more complete list of changes in SeaMonkey 2.49.3, see the What's
New in SeaMonkey 2.49.3 section of the Release Notes [2], which also
contain a list of known issues and answers to frequently asked
questions. For a more general overview of the SeaMonkey project (and
screen shots!), visit www.seamonkey-project.org.

It's been a very difficult release (but it still can't compare with
2.46...  )


Links:
[1] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.49.3
[2] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.49.3/





I use v2.49.3 day and night, no crashes at all, but I am on Fedora Linux (the 
scientific part of RedHat LInux), completely free of charge.
I recently installed a new hard disk (I had fifteen partions on my old hard disk 
and could install Ubuntu and XP 7bits) but I like Fedora better.

And by the way, I have 4Gbytes RAM memory.

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.49.3 released

[Saul Luizaga]

I'd like to request please to contact the 64-bit team and make a join 
release? They're a bit ahead but not making much progress and the 
releases are betas and alphas by their functioning, buggy, and really 
unstable in general, so this stable releases maybe will help them in 
turn, meanwhile we get good stable 64-bit versions that I'd prefer to 
use, the 4 GB RAM limitation causes the Browser to crash, I think, 
specially when many flash video tabs are open, the internal flash player 
of SeaMonkey sucks, laggy, and slow, and eventually makes SeaMonkey 
crash to be honest, so I use Adobe Flash Player, much better, but 
eventually crashes too.


Edmund Wong wrote:

Greetings,

The SeaMonkey Project is pleased to announce the release of SeaMonkey
2.49.3!

For a more complete list of changes in SeaMonkey 2.49.3, see the What's
New in SeaMonkey 2.49.3 section of the Release Notes [2], which also
contain a list of known issues and answers to frequently asked
questions. For a more general overview of the SeaMonkey project (and
screen shots!), visit www.seamonkey-project.org.

It's been a very difficult release (but it still can't compare with
2.46...  )


Links:
[1] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.49.3
[2] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.49.3/



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Re: SeaMonkey 2.49.3 released

[Daniel]

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote on 06/05/18 18:01:
 > Ah!! O.K.!! So does that mean that SM 2.49.3 is based on FF 52.3 (or 
52.0.3,

 > whatever!)??

You know there are release notes available? :)

https://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.49.3/

FRG

Oh! FRG, you don't expect me to actually do something for myself, do 
you?? ;-P


Thanks for the reminder  and all you efforts!

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.49.3 released

[Frank-Rainer Grahl]

> Ah!! O.K.!! So does that mean that SM 2.49.3 is based on FF 52.3 (or 52.0.3,
> whatever!)??

You know there are release notes available? :)

https://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.49.3/

FRG

Daniel wrote:

WaltS48 wrote on 06/05/18 00:45:

On 5/5/18 10:10 AM, Daniel wrote:

David H. Durgee wrote on 05/05/18 05:15:

Cruz, Jaime wrote:

Ant wrote:
Yay and thanks! :D No internal updates again I guess since I'm not 
seeing it in my updated 64-bit W7 HPE SP1 PC. :(



On 5/3/2018 11:58 PM, Edmund Wong wrote:

Greetings,

The SeaMonkey Project is pleased to announce the release of SeaMonkey
2.49.3!

For a more complete list of changes in SeaMonkey 2.49.3, see the What's
New in SeaMonkey 2.49.3 section of the Release Notes [2], which also
contain a list of known issues and answers to frequently asked
questions. For a more general overview of the SeaMonkey project (and
screen shots!), visit www.seamonkey-project.org.

It's been a very difficult release (but it still can't compare with
2.46...  )


Links:
[1] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.49.3
[2] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.49.3/


Just waiting for it to hit the Ubuntuzilla repository now.  Thanks.



It just hit a few minutes ago.  Now running 2.49.3 here from Ubuntuzilla.

Dave


Dave, your User Agent is showing just as FF 52.0 If you are now using 
SeaMonkey 2.49.3, that should be equivalent to FF 55 or thereabouts, 
shouldn't it??



Nope. SeaMonkey 2.49.x is based on Firefox 52 ESR.


Ah!! O.K.!! So does that mean that SM 2.49.3 is based on FF 52.3 (or 52.0.3, 
whatever!)??



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Re: SeaMonkey 2.49.3 released

[Daniel]

WaltS48 wrote on 06/05/18 00:45:

On 5/5/18 10:10 AM, Daniel wrote:

David H. Durgee wrote on 05/05/18 05:15:

Cruz, Jaime wrote:

Ant wrote:
Yay and thanks! :D No internal updates again I guess since I'm not 
seeing it in my updated 64-bit W7 HPE SP1 PC. :(



On 5/3/2018 11:58 PM, Edmund Wong wrote:

Greetings,

The SeaMonkey Project is pleased to announce the release of SeaMonkey
2.49.3!

For a more complete list of changes in SeaMonkey 2.49.3, see the 
What's

New in SeaMonkey 2.49.3 section of the Release Notes [2], which also
contain a list of known issues and answers to frequently asked
questions. For a more general overview of the SeaMonkey project (and
screen shots!), visit www.seamonkey-project.org.

It's been a very difficult release (but it still can't compare with
2.46...  )


Links:
[1] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.49.3
[2] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.49.3/


Just waiting for it to hit the Ubuntuzilla repository now.  Thanks.



It just hit a few minutes ago.  Now running 2.49.3 here from 
Ubuntuzilla.


Dave


Dave, your User Agent is showing just as FF 52.0 If you are now using 
SeaMonkey 2.49.3, that should be equivalent to FF 55 or thereabouts, 
shouldn't it??



Nope. SeaMonkey 2.49.x is based on Firefox 52 ESR.

 

Ah!! O.K.!! So does that mean that SM 2.49.3 is based on FF 52.3 (or 
52.0.3, whatever!)??


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Re: SeaMonkey 2.49.3 released

[WaltS48]

On 5/5/18 10:10 AM, Daniel wrote:

David H. Durgee wrote on 05/05/18 05:15:

Cruz, Jaime wrote:

Ant wrote:
Yay and thanks! :D No internal updates again I guess since I'm not 
seeing it in my updated 64-bit W7 HPE SP1 PC. :(



On 5/3/2018 11:58 PM, Edmund Wong wrote:

Greetings,

The SeaMonkey Project is pleased to announce the release of SeaMonkey
2.49.3!

For a more complete list of changes in SeaMonkey 2.49.3, see the 
What's

New in SeaMonkey 2.49.3 section of the Release Notes [2], which also
contain a list of known issues and answers to frequently asked
questions. For a more general overview of the SeaMonkey project (and
screen shots!), visit www.seamonkey-project.org.

It's been a very difficult release (but it still can't compare with
2.46...  )


Links:
[1] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.49.3
[2] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.49.3/


Just waiting for it to hit the Ubuntuzilla repository now.  Thanks.



It just hit a few minutes ago.  Now running 2.49.3 here from Ubuntuzilla.

Dave


Dave, your User Agent is showing just as FF 52.0 If you are now using 
SeaMonkey 2.49.3, that should be equivalent to FF 55 or thereabouts, 
shouldn't it??



Nope. SeaMonkey 2.49.x is based on Firefox 52 ESR.

 



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Re: SeaMonkey 2.49.3 released

[Daniel]

David H. Durgee wrote on 05/05/18 05:15:

Cruz, Jaime wrote:

Ant wrote:
Yay and thanks! :D No internal updates again I guess since I'm not 
seeing it in my updated 64-bit W7 HPE SP1 PC. :(



On 5/3/2018 11:58 PM, Edmund Wong wrote:

Greetings,

The SeaMonkey Project is pleased to announce the release of SeaMonkey
2.49.3!

For a more complete list of changes in SeaMonkey 2.49.3, see the What's
New in SeaMonkey 2.49.3 section of the Release Notes [2], which also
contain a list of known issues and answers to frequently asked
questions. For a more general overview of the SeaMonkey project (and
screen shots!), visit www.seamonkey-project.org.

It's been a very difficult release (but it still can't compare with
2.46...  )


Links:
[1] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.49.3
[2] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.49.3/


Just waiting for it to hit the Ubuntuzilla repository now.  Thanks.



It just hit a few minutes ago.  Now running 2.49.3 here from Ubuntuzilla.

Dave


Dave, your User Agent is showing just as FF 52.0 If you are now using 
SeaMonkey 2.49.3, that should be equivalent to FF 55 or thereabouts, 
shouldn't it??

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.49.3 released

[Wolf]

Edmund Wong schrieb:

Greetings,

The SeaMonkey Project is pleased to announce the release of SeaMonkey
2.49.3!

For a more complete list of changes in SeaMonkey 2.49.3, see the What's
New in SeaMonkey 2.49.3 section of the Release Notes [2], which also
contain a list of known issues and answers to frequently asked
questions. For a more general overview of the SeaMonkey project (and
screen shots!), visit www.seamonkey-project.org.

It's been a very difficult release (but it still can't compare with
2.46...  )


Links:
[1] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.49.3
[2] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.49.3/



Thanks a lot to everyone working for us with the SeaMonkey Project, just 
got it from Ubuntuzilla.


Regards
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Re: SeaMonkey 2.49.3 released

[David H. Durgee]

Cruz, Jaime wrote:

Ant wrote:
Yay and thanks! :D No internal updates again I guess since I'm not 
seeing it in my updated 64-bit W7 HPE SP1 PC. :(



On 5/3/2018 11:58 PM, Edmund Wong wrote:

Greetings,

The SeaMonkey Project is pleased to announce the release of SeaMonkey
2.49.3!

For a more complete list of changes in SeaMonkey 2.49.3, see the What's
New in SeaMonkey 2.49.3 section of the Release Notes [2], which also
contain a list of known issues and answers to frequently asked
questions. For a more general overview of the SeaMonkey project (and
screen shots!), visit www.seamonkey-project.org.

It's been a very difficult release (but it still can't compare with
2.46...  )


Links:
[1] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.49.3
[2] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.49.3/


Just waiting for it to hit the Ubuntuzilla repository now.  Thanks.



It just hit a few minutes ago.  Now running 2.49.3 here from Ubuntuzilla.

Dave
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Re: SeaMonkey 2.49.3 released

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Edmund Wong wrote on 04/05/18 16:58:

Greetings,

The SeaMonkey Project is pleased to announce the release of SeaMonkey
2.49.3!

For a more complete list of changes in SeaMonkey 2.49.3, see the What's
New in SeaMonkey 2.49.3 section of the Release Notes [2], which also
contain a list of known issues and answers to frequently asked
questions. For a more general overview of the SeaMonkey project (and
screen shots!), visit www.seamonkey-project.org.

It's been a very difficult release (but it still can't compare with
2.46...  )


Links:
[1] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.49.3
[2] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.49.3/


Thanks, gang!

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.49.3 released

[Cruz, Jaime]

Ant wrote:
Yay and thanks! :D No internal updates again I guess since I'm not 
seeing it in my updated 64-bit W7 HPE SP1 PC. :(



On 5/3/2018 11:58 PM, Edmund Wong wrote:

Greetings,

The SeaMonkey Project is pleased to announce the release of SeaMonkey
2.49.3!

For a more complete list of changes in SeaMonkey 2.49.3, see the What's
New in SeaMonkey 2.49.3 section of the Release Notes [2], which also
contain a list of known issues and answers to frequently asked
questions. For a more general overview of the SeaMonkey project (and
screen shots!), visit www.seamonkey-project.org.

It's been a very difficult release (but it still can't compare with
2.46...  )


Links:
[1] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.49.3
[2] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.49.3/


Just waiting for it to hit the Ubuntuzilla repository now.  Thanks.

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.49.3 released

[Ant via support-seamonkey]

Yay and thanks! :D No internal updates again I guess since I'm not 
seeing it in my updated 64-bit W7 HPE SP1 PC. :(



On 5/3/2018 11:58 PM, Edmund Wong wrote:

Greetings,

The SeaMonkey Project is pleased to announce the release of SeaMonkey
2.49.3!

For a more complete list of changes in SeaMonkey 2.49.3, see the What's
New in SeaMonkey 2.49.3 section of the Release Notes [2], which also
contain a list of known issues and answers to frequently asked
questions. For a more general overview of the SeaMonkey project (and
screen shots!), visit www.seamonkey-project.org.

It's been a very difficult release (but it still can't compare with
2.46...  )


Links:
[1] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.49.3
[2] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.49.3/

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SeaMonkey 2.49.3 released

[Edmund Wong]

Greetings,

The SeaMonkey Project is pleased to announce the release of SeaMonkey
2.49.3!

For a more complete list of changes in SeaMonkey 2.49.3, see the What's
New in SeaMonkey 2.49.3 section of the Release Notes [2], which also
contain a list of known issues and answers to frequently asked
questions. For a more general overview of the SeaMonkey project (and
screen shots!), visit www.seamonkey-project.org.

It's been a very difficult release (but it still can't compare with
2.46...  )


Links:
[1] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.49.3
[2] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.49.3/
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