Re: UPLOADING websites
John wrote: In article, "Beauregard T. Shagnasty" wrote: Ah so. Then my only remaining suggestion would be to "get Linux/Unix!" and Be In Charge! ;-) Why in the world would anyone do that and be limited on your apps, when you have Mac OSX which is Unix? Use you can boot into single user mode and run full unvarnished old timey command line Unix. If you have AppleJack installed That's the way you do it. You follow their commands and it impressively looking. Makes you realize if you use the wrong command you can really screw up your hard Drive. Then I worked for school system typing the wrong command in DOS can result in Hard drive becoming an expensive paperweight. I assume UNIX Linux is just as dangerous if you don't know what your doing. -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T."If it's Fixed, Don't Break it" http://www.phillipmjones.net http://www.vpea.org mailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: UPLOADING websites
Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: John wrote: "Beauregard T. Shagnasty" wrote: Ah so. Then my only remaining suggestion would be to "get Linux/Unix!" and Be In Charge! ;-) Why in the world would anyone do that and be limited on your apps, when you have Mac OSX which is Unix? I do not know what you mean when you say "be limited on your apps." I am using Ubuntu and I have all the apps I could ever need. There are around twenty thousand applications included in the repositories and all are free. You also missed the. Ditto for me and my Mandriva Linux!! Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: UPLOADING websites
John wrote: > "Beauregard T. Shagnasty" wrote: >> Ah so. Then my only remaining suggestion would be to "get >> Linux/Unix!" and Be In Charge! ;-) > > Why in the world would anyone do that and be limited on your apps, > when you have Mac OSX which is Unix? I do not know what you mean when you say "be limited on your apps." I am using Ubuntu and I have all the apps I could ever need. There are around twenty thousand applications included in the repositories and all are free. You also missed the . -- -bts -Four wheels carry the body; two wheels move the soul ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: UPLOADING websites
In article , "Beauregard T. Shagnasty" wrote: > Ah so. Then my only remaining suggestion would be to "get Linux/Unix!" > and Be In Charge! ;-) Why in the world would anyone do that and be limited on your apps, when you have Mac OSX which is Unix? -- Are there errors in the Bible? How should a church conduct its worship services? Is drinking Alcohol a sin? Is racism wrong? If you want to learn, get answers, and be able to defend the faith, CERM is your place. http://www.cerm.info ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: UPLOADING websites
Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: BeeNeR wrote: My thoughts are that SM developers should unbundle the 'Composer' feature. Make it an add-on for those that want it. My recollection is that the installation of Composer can be refused during SeaMonkey setup, but you have to choose 'custom' installation. Naturally, the Average Joe won't do that. That may be true for nix or even PC, but not Mac. Mac uses dmg (pronounced dim-edge and stands *Disk image*) files. its all or nothing. beside with out composer it cripples some of SeaMonkey's abilities. Ah so. Then my only remaining suggestion would be to "get Linux/Unix!" and Be In Charge! ;-) No thanks Mac Os is just fine. besides its not the OS that the problem it the installer package the use doesn't allow for such if the used a Package (pkg) download and when installer open have a way to customize. Instead you drag the application out of the dmg and drop it on application and everything installs. Even so I would still install all the components except maybe the IRC client. I'm not comfortable using the terminal application to run UNIX commands I'd hate to have do that all the time I don't wish to go back to the Config.sys files and autoexec.bat and bak files. I had to deal with that back when I was working with school system and her a kid could easily go in if left to their on devices and run the Init command and wipe out 6 months worth of files or more, so next time a teacher aimed to use it for their information the would be greeted with a blank screen then I would have to go and reinstall everything and have to try to recreate everything. Nope none of that. AS I understand it your still capable whether by accident or on purpose to wipe out your main drive while your using it or damage your drive so bad, you'll have to go buy another if you type an errant key combination -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T."If it's Fixed, Don't Break it" http://www.phillipmjones.net http://www.vpea.org mailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: UPLOADING websites
Phillip Jones wrote: > Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: >> BeeNeR wrote: >>> My thoughts are that SM developers should unbundle the 'Composer' >>> feature. Make it an add-on for those that want it. >> >> My recollection is that the installation of Composer can be refused >> during SeaMonkey setup, but you have to choose 'custom' >> installation. Naturally, the Average Joe won't do that. >> > That may be true for nix or even PC, but not Mac. Mac uses dmg > (pronounced dim-edge and stands *Disk image*) files. its all or > nothing. beside with out composer it cripples some of SeaMonkey's > abilities. Ah so. Then my only remaining suggestion would be to "get Linux/Unix!" and Be In Charge! ;-) -- -bts -Four wheels carry the body; two wheels move the soul ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: UPLOADING websites
Hi John: If SM is like the old Netscape then it already has the ability to UPLOAD web pages. It's done by browsing to the ftp site then drag and drop the file from your computer to the web page. I've been using Composer since it came out in Netscape 3.0. -- Have Fun, Brooke Clarke http://www.PRC68.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: UPLOADING websites
Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: BeeNeR wrote: ---snip--- My thoughts are that SM developers should unbundle the 'Composer' feature. Make it an add-on for those that want it. My recollection is that the installation of Composer can be refused during SeaMonkey setup, but you have to choose 'custom' installation. Naturally, the Average Joe won't do that. That may be true for nix or even PC, but not Mac. Mac uses dmg (pronounced dim-edge and stands *Disk image*) files. its all or nothing. beside with out composer it cripples some of SeaMonkey's abilities. -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T."If it's Fixed, Don't Break it" http://www.phillipmjones.net http://www.vpea.org mailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: UPLOADING websites
BeeNeR wrote: > John typed the following: >> "Beauregard T. Shagnasty" wrote: >>> John wrote: That was not the question. I already have 2 good FTP clients. But I wnat this capability built into sea monkey. >>> >>> Why would you want the developers to bloat up SeaMonkey with >>> something that perhaps 1-2% of users even know what it is? With >>> either of your 2 good FTP clients, you're at most two mouse-clicks >>> away from connecting to your web server now. With an >>> already-working, proven application. >> >> Sea MOnkey does in a way kinda have this capability built in. But >> its very very limited compared to Text Wrangler (a text editor). > > My thoughts are that SM developers should unbundle the 'Composer' > feature. Make it an add-on for those that want it. My recollection is that the installation of Composer can be refused during SeaMonkey setup, but you have to choose 'custom' installation. Naturally, the Average Joe won't do that. -- -bts -Four wheels carry the body; two wheels move the soul ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: UPLOADING websites
On or about 4/3/2010 5:46 AM, John typed the following: > In article , > "Beauregard T. Shagnasty" wrote: > >> John wrote: >> >>> That was not the question. I already have 2 good FTP clients. But I >>> wnat this capability built into sea monkey. >> >> Why would you want the developers to bloat up SeaMonkey with something >> that perhaps 1-2% of users even know what it is? With either of your 2 >> good FTP clients, you're at most two mouse-clicks away from connecting >> to your web server now. With an already-working, proven application. > > Sea MOnkey does in a way kinda have this capability built in. But its > very very limited compared to Text Wrangler (a text editor). My thoughts are that SM developers should unbundle the 'Composer' feature. Make it an add-on for those that want it. -- Ed "Amusement is the happiness of those who cannot think." -Alexander Pope ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: UPLOADING websites
In article , Bernard Mercier wrote: > Le 30/03/2010, John a supposé : > > When will Sea monkey be able to upload websites with ease to a server? > > Currently I have to MANUALLY type in the remote folder name which I dont > > always know. > There are programs in Windows which perform automatically what you request. > (google is your friend) > This functionality doesn't has it's place in SeaMonkey, unless somebody makes > an addon for it. I have 2 FTP clients man. But if one is creating websites such a feature should be built into the client, just like how its built into my HTML editor TextWrangler. -- Are there errors in the Bible? How should a church conduct its worship services? Is drinking Alcohol a sin? Is racism wrong? If you want to learn, get answers, and be able to defend the faith, CERM is your place. http://www.cerm.info ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: UPLOADING websites
In article , "Beauregard T. Shagnasty" wrote: > John wrote: > > > That was not the question. I already have 2 good FTP clients. But I > > wnat this capability built into sea monkey. > > Why would you want the developers to bloat up SeaMonkey with something > that perhaps 1-2% of users even know what it is? With either of your 2 > good FTP clients, you're at most two mouse-clicks away from connecting > to your web server now. With an already-working, proven application. Sea MOnkey does in a way kinda have this capability built in. But its very very limited compared to Text Wrangler (a text editor). -- Are there errors in the Bible? How should a church conduct its worship services? Is drinking Alcohol a sin? Is racism wrong? If you want to learn, get answers, and be able to defend the faith, CERM is your place. http://www.cerm.info ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: UPLOADING websites
Philip Chee wrote: >Kaze is currently busy backporting KompoZer >to comm-central/seamonkey trunk. >KompoZer uses FireFTP for normal FTP uploads >and a compiled binary for SFTP uploads. >Perhaps we'll see what happens >when Kaze completes his backport. > A good guy to have working with the team. http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1423895&cid=29914853&threshold=1#29921923 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: UPLOADING websites
On Thu, 01 Apr 2010 17:04:00 +0200, Ray_Net wrote: > S. Beaulieu wrote: >> Ray_Net a écrit : >>> SM will never do that , because SM is not a suite for creating websites. >> >> >> Well, to be honest, one could argue that the fact that Composer comes >> prepackageed with it makes it so and thus should provide such a function. >> >> S. > So, it's better that SM drop the "Composer" part of his suite . > otherwise someone will always ask other functionality ... angain and > again. They have enough work to maintain, and correct bugs - they have > no time do do all the possible web stuf ... BTW, there a a huge amount > of unresolved bug, because of lack of votes and lack of interest to > correct bugs .. it's always funny to create new functionalities, but the > people is interested by a "bug free" product . Kaze is currently busy backporting KompoZer to comm-central/seamonkey trunk. KompoZer uses FireFTP for normal FTP uploads and a compiled binary for SFTP uploads. Perhaps we'll see what happens when Kaze completes his backport. Phil -- Philip Chee , http://flashblock.mozdev.org/ http://xsidebar.mozdev.org Guard us from the she-wolf and the wolf, and guard us from the thief, oh Night, and so be good for us to pass. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: UPLOADING websites
S. Beaulieu wrote: Ray_Net a écrit : SM will never do that , because SM is not a suite for creating websites. Well, to be honest, one could argue that the fact that Composer comes prepackageed with it makes it so and thus should provide such a function. S. So, it's better that SM drop the "Composer" part of his suite . otherwise someone will always ask other functionality ... angain and again. They have enough work to maintain, and correct bugs - they have no time do do all the possible web stuf ... BTW, there a a huge amount of unresolved bug, because of lack of votes and lack of interest to correct bugs .. it's always funny to create new functionalities, but the people is interested by a "bug free" product . ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: UPLOADING websites
Ray_Net a écrit : SM will never do that , because SM is not a suite for creating websites. Well, to be honest, one could argue that the fact that Composer comes prepackageed with it makes it so and thus should provide such a function. S. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: UPLOADING websites
John wrote: In article, Ray_Net wrote: John wrote: When will Sea monkey be able to upload websites with ease to a server? Currently I have to MANUALLY type in the remote folder name which I dont always know. Use FileZilla free and perfect use for this purpose. That was not the question. I know ... but this is the only possibility you have. SM will never do that , because SM is not a suite for creating websites. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: UPLOADING websites
On Tue, 30 Mar 2010 21:45:59 -0400, BeeNeR wrote: > On or about 3/30/2010 9:33 PM, John typed the following: >> In article , >> BeeNeR wrote: >> >>> Have you tried FireFTP? It works with SM 2.x.x >>> http://fireftp.mozdev.org/ >> >> That was not the question. I already have 2 good FTP clients. But I >> wnat this capability built into sea monkey. > > in that case, the answer to your question is "probably never". SeaMonkey > is a combination Mail/News program and Net Browser program sort of > rolled into one. That's the way it should stay. Not everyone wants a > lot of other bells and whistles. KISS. Add-ons, extensions, other > themes, etc. are great! If you want 'em - you got 'em. If you don't > want 'em - you don't get 'em. I want it all rolled into the OS, so I don't have to open programs to do different things all the time, and I want it NOW! LOL! -- openSUSE 11.2x86_64 (Gnome 2.28.2) | AMD Athlon(tm) 64 3000+ | 2GB RAM ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: UPLOADING websites
Le 30/03/2010, John a supposé : > When will Sea monkey be able to upload websites with ease to a server? > Currently I have to MANUALLY type in the remote folder name which I dont > always know. There are programs in Windows which perform automatically what you request. (google is your friend) This functionality doesn't has it's place in SeaMonkey, unless somebody makes an addon for it. -- [URL=http://users.kbc.skynet.be/fi001005] *Belgische Ardennen - Ardennes Belge [/URL] ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: UPLOADING websites
John wrote: > That was not the question. I already have 2 good FTP clients. But I > wnat this capability built into sea monkey. Why would you want the developers to bloat up SeaMonkey with something that perhaps 1-2% of users even know what it is? With either of your 2 good FTP clients, you're at most two mouse-clicks away from connecting to your web server now. With an already-working, proven application. -- -bts -Four wheels carry the body; two wheels move the soul ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: UPLOADING websites
On or about 3/30/2010 9:33 PM, John typed the following: > In article , > BeeNeR wrote: > >> Have you tried FireFTP? It works with SM 2.x.x >> http://fireftp.mozdev.org/ > > That was not the question. I already have 2 good FTP clients. But I wnat > this capability built into sea monkey. in that case, the answer to your question is "probably never". SeaMonkey is a combination Mail/News program and Net Browser program sort of rolled into one. That's the way it should stay. Not everyone wants a lot of other bells and whistles. KISS. Add-ons, extensions, other themes, etc. are great! If you want 'em - you got 'em. If you don't want 'em - you don't get 'em. -- Ed "In order to have economic and social mobility in this country, we know that we must speak and write the central language." -Rep. John Porter ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: UPLOADING websites
In article , Ray_Net wrote: > John wrote: > > When will Sea monkey be able to upload websites with ease to a server? > > Currently I have to MANUALLY type in the remote folder name which I dont > > always know. > > Use FileZilla free and perfect use for this purpose. That was not the question. -- Are there errors in the Bible? How should a church conduct its worship services? Is drinking Alcohol a sin? Is racism wrong? If you want to learn, get answers, and be able to defend the faith, CERM is your place. http://www.cerm.info ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: UPLOADING websites
In article , BeeNeR wrote: > Have you tried FireFTP? It works with SM 2.x.x > http://fireftp.mozdev.org/ That was not the question. I already have 2 good FTP clients. But I wnat this capability built into sea monkey. -- Are there errors in the Bible? How should a church conduct its worship services? Is drinking Alcohol a sin? Is racism wrong? If you want to learn, get answers, and be able to defend the faith, CERM is your place. http://www.cerm.info ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: UPLOADING websites
On or about 3/30/2010 5:34 PM, Ray_Net typed the following: > John wrote: >> When will Sea monkey be able to upload websites with ease to a server? >> Currently I have to MANUALLY type in the remote folder name which I dont >> always know. > > Use FileZilla free and perfect use for this purpose. Have you tried FireFTP? It works with SM 2.x.x http://fireftp.mozdev.org/ -- Ed A nutritional comparison of beer and milk reveals that: Beer has zero fat; milk is loaded with fat. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: UPLOADING websites
John wrote: When will Sea monkey be able to upload websites with ease to a server? Currently I have to MANUALLY type in the remote folder name which I dont always know. Use FileZilla free and perfect use for this purpose. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
UPLOADING websites
When will Sea monkey be able to upload websites with ease to a server? Currently I have to MANUALLY type in the remote folder name which I dont always know. -- Are there errors in the Bible? How should a church conduct its worship services? Is drinking Alcohol a sin? Is racism wrong? If you want to learn, get answers, and be able to defend the faith, CERM is your place. http://www.cerm.info ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey