Re: What's New in SeaMonkey 2.53.7

2021-03-30 Thread WaltS48 

On 3/30/21 1:02 PM, Ant wrote:

On 3/30/2021 7:29 AM, WaltS48 wrote:
...
So, what are the options for finding out about new releases after 
this newsgroup is gone?


What? You didn't read the 
 
post?


Edmund hasn't posted about this release in his 
https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/. :(



Awww, I feel so bad for you.

Maybe he hasn't had time yet.

I found it posted on mozillaZine by the user EITxolo, and made it here 
just in case he decided not to bother with this group.


Maybe EITxolo is Edmund's alter ego there and new versions always get 
announced there.


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Re: What's New in SeaMonkey 2.53.7

2021-03-30 Thread Ant 

On 3/30/2021 7:29 AM, WaltS48 wrote:
...
So, what are the options for finding out about new releases after this 
newsgroup is gone?


What? You didn't read the 
 post?


Edmund hasn't posted about this release in his 
https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/. :(

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Re: What's New in SeaMonkey 2.53.7

2021-03-30 Thread NFN Smith 

Bret Busby wrote:




Depending on which operating system platform you are using, and, how it 
is done for the operating system that you use, in Ubuntu Linux, I have 
added the sourceforge  ubuntuzilla repository to my sources file, for 
upgrades, so that, whenever I perform a system upgrade, that repository 
is checked for upgrades to Seamonkey, and, in performing a system 
upgrade on my other computer, at present, I have observed that it is 
performing an upgrade to Seamonkey.




For Ubuntu-related stuff, I concur on Ubuntuzilla.  Part of it is that I 
have a strong bias towards getting updates via repositories, and I 
consider the methodology of manual download and install to be something 
to be relegated to Windows.  Plus, working via repository makes it easy 
to review version numbers, as well as uninstall, if needed, via the 
package manager.


I started using Ubuntuzilla several years ago when Ubuntu's maintainers 
quit supporting Seamonkey.  I've found it to be reliable, and pretty 
quick -- enough that when a new version of Seamonkey is released, it 
often gets updated on my Ubuntu installation before I get around to 
doing the manual process of download and install in Windows.  And for 
what it's worth, since my Ubuntu installation is still 18.04 and the 
officially-supported version of Thunderbird is still 68.10, I used 
Ubuntuzilla to upgrade to the current 78.x installations.


I have Mint on a VM, and I haven't tried Ubuntuzilla on the Mint 
installation, because I don't run Seamonkey there, but I have no reason 
to believe that it shouldn't behave the same way there as it does in Ubuntu.


On Windows, there are tools for maintaining package updates that I'm 
aware of.  PatchMyPc and Ninite don't include Seamonkey. SUMo (Software 
Update Monitor -- not to be confused with SUpport.MOzilla.org) does 
include Seamonkey, but an unpaid version only shows available updates, 
and it takes a paid copy to be able to download/install.


I also checked chocolatey -- it's the most Linux-like in its approach 
(and takes a little more configuration work), and it's been a couple of 
years since I played with it, but the support web page does report that 
they can do Seamonkey.


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Re: What's New in SeaMonkey 2.53.7

2021-03-30 Thread WaltS48 

On 3/30/21 11:45 AM, Bret Busby wrote:

On 30/03/2021, WaltS48  wrote:

On 3/30/21 11:03 AM, Bret Busby wrote:

On 30/3/21 10:15 pm, Bob Fleischer wrote:

On 3/30/2021 10:12 AM, WaltS48 wrote:

*You MUST absolutely do a full backup of your profile before
upgrading from a version earlier than SeaMonkey 2.53.1. This
version of SeaMonkey makes changes to your profile that can't be
reverted in cases where you need to go back to the older version.*

*Automatic upgrades from previous versions are currently disabled
for this release. Please download the full installer from the
downloads section and install SeaMonkey 2.53.7 manually over the
previous version.*


SeaMonkey 2.53.7 Release Notes


Enjoy!

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So, what are the options for finding out about new releases after
this newsgroup is gone?

Bob

Depending on which operating system platform you are using, and, how
it is done for the operating system that you use, in Ubuntu Linux, I
have added the sourceforge  ubuntuzilla repository to my sources file,
for upgrades, so that, whenever I perform a system upgrade, that
repository is checked for upgrades to Seamonkey, and, in performing a
system upgrade on my other computer, at present, I have observed that
it is performing an upgrade to Seamonkey.


Which means the repo has a maintainer.

Updates to direct installs from SeaMonkey on any operating system have
been disabled for a long time.

Might the repo maintainer be able to fix it for all of us, or does it do
a complete install over the current version?


It shows (it was done as a command line upgrade, on both of my
computers that I have just upgraded) as an upgrade, rather than as a
new package installation (which is what is shown, for kernel
upgrades).

The package is seamonkey-mozilla-build amd 64 2.53.7-0ubuntu1  so what
I have upgraded, is specific to Ubuntu Linux (as is ubuntuzilla, I
believe), and, I expect that it would not work with Fedora Linux
(which is from (some years ago) Red Hat Linux), which, I believe, uses
rpm packages, rather than deb packages.

What I suggest, is that, for each operating system, the Seamonkey user
does a google search for
seamonkey  upgrade
and, hopefully, the results returned, will include a howto, that steps
through the instructions for installing/upgrading seamonkey, for the
particular operating system.

I believe that that is how I found the Sourceforge ubuntuzilla
repository, and, how to apply it, for installing and upgrading
seamonkry on Ubuntu Linux.

I'll stick with getting the application from the SeaMonkey Project site, 
and install until/if updates work again.


I only have it installed to provide what little support I can, not being 
a user.


With this newsgroup gone, that only leaves the SeaMonkey topic on 
mozillaZine to deal with. That's not very active and there are more 
knowledgeable users there.


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Re: What's New in SeaMonkey 2.53.7

2021-03-30 Thread Bret Busby 
On 30/03/2021, WaltS48  wrote:
> On 3/30/21 11:03 AM, Bret Busby wrote:
>> On 30/3/21 10:15 pm, Bob Fleischer wrote:
>>> On 3/30/2021 10:12 AM, WaltS48 wrote:
> *You MUST absolutely do a full backup of your profile before
> upgrading from a version earlier than SeaMonkey 2.53.1. This
> version of SeaMonkey makes changes to your profile that can't be
> reverted in cases where you need to go back to the older version.*
>
> *Automatic upgrades from previous versions are currently disabled
> for this release. Please download the full installer from the
> downloads section and install SeaMonkey 2.53.7 manually over the
> previous version.*
>
 SeaMonkey 2.53.7 Release Notes
 

 Enjoy!

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>>>
>>> So, what are the options for finding out about new releases after
>>> this newsgroup is gone?
>>>
>>> Bob
>>
>> Depending on which operating system platform you are using, and, how
>> it is done for the operating system that you use, in Ubuntu Linux, I
>> have added the sourceforge  ubuntuzilla repository to my sources file,
>> for upgrades, so that, whenever I perform a system upgrade, that
>> repository is checked for upgrades to Seamonkey, and, in performing a
>> system upgrade on my other computer, at present, I have observed that
>> it is performing an upgrade to Seamonkey.
>>
> Which means the repo has a maintainer.
>
> Updates to direct installs from SeaMonkey on any operating system have
> been disabled for a long time.
>
> Might the repo maintainer be able to fix it for all of us, or does it do
> a complete install over the current version?
>
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It shows (it was done as a command line upgrade, on both of my
computers that I have just upgraded) as an upgrade, rather than as a
new package installation (which is what is shown, for kernel
upgrades).

The package is seamonkey-mozilla-build amd 64 2.53.7-0ubuntu1  so what
I have upgraded, is specific to Ubuntu Linux (as is ubuntuzilla, I
believe), and, I expect that it would not work with Fedora Linux
(which is from (some years ago) Red Hat Linux), which, I believe, uses
rpm packages, rather than deb packages.

What I suggest, is that, for each operating system, the Seamonkey user
does a google search for
seamonkey  upgrade
and, hopefully, the results returned, will include a howto, that steps
through the instructions for installing/upgrading seamonkey, for the
particular operating system.

I believe that that is how I found the Sourceforge ubuntuzilla
repository, and, how to apply it, for installing and upgrading
seamonkry on Ubuntu Linux.

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Re: What's New in SeaMonkey 2.53.7

2021-03-30 Thread WaltS48 

On 3/30/21 11:03 AM, Bret Busby wrote:

On 30/3/21 10:15 pm, Bob Fleischer wrote:

On 3/30/2021 10:12 AM, WaltS48 wrote:
*You MUST absolutely do a full backup of your profile before 
upgrading from a version earlier than SeaMonkey 2.53.1. This 
version of SeaMonkey makes changes to your profile that can't be 
reverted in cases where you need to go back to the older version.*


*Automatic upgrades from previous versions are currently disabled 
for this release. Please download the full installer from the 
downloads section and install SeaMonkey 2.53.7 manually over the 
previous version.*


SeaMonkey 2.53.7 Release Notes 



Enjoy!

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So, what are the options for finding out about new releases after 
this newsgroup is gone?


Bob


Depending on which operating system platform you are using, and, how 
it is done for the operating system that you use, in Ubuntu Linux, I 
have added the sourceforge  ubuntuzilla repository to my sources file, 
for upgrades, so that, whenever I perform a system upgrade, that 
repository is checked for upgrades to Seamonkey, and, in performing a 
system upgrade on my other computer, at present, I have observed that 
it is performing an upgrade to Seamonkey.



Which means the repo has a maintainer.

Updates to direct installs from SeaMonkey on any operating system have 
been disabled for a long time.


Might the repo maintainer be able to fix it for all of us, or does it do 
a complete install over the current version?


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Re: What's New in SeaMonkey 2.53.7

2021-03-30 Thread Bret Busby 

On 30/3/21 10:15 pm, Bob Fleischer wrote:

On 3/30/2021 10:12 AM, WaltS48 wrote:
*You MUST absolutely do a full backup of your profile before 
upgrading from a version earlier than SeaMonkey 2.53.1. This version 
of SeaMonkey makes changes to your profile that can't be reverted in 
cases where you need to go back to the older version.*


*Automatic upgrades from previous versions are currently disabled for 
this release. Please download the full installer from the downloads 
section and install SeaMonkey 2.53.7 manually over the previous 
version.*


SeaMonkey 2.53.7 Release Notes 



Enjoy!

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So, what are the options for finding out about new releases after this 
newsgroup is gone?


Bob


Depending on which operating system platform you are using, and, how it 
is done for the operating system that you use, in Ubuntu Linux, I have 
added the sourceforge  ubuntuzilla repository to my sources file, for 
upgrades, so that, whenever I perform a system upgrade, that repository 
is checked for upgrades to Seamonkey, and, in performing a system 
upgrade on my other computer, at present, I have observed that it is 
performing an upgrade to Seamonkey.


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Re: What's New in SeaMonkey 2.53.7

2021-03-30 Thread WaltS48 

On 3/30/21 10:15 AM, Bob Fleischer wrote:

On 3/30/2021 10:12 AM, WaltS48 wrote:
*You MUST absolutely do a full backup of your profile before 
upgrading from a version earlier than SeaMonkey 2.53.1. This version 
of SeaMonkey makes changes to your profile that can't be reverted in 
cases where you need to go back to the older version.*


*Automatic upgrades from previous versions are currently disabled 
for this release. Please download the full installer from the 
downloads section and install SeaMonkey 2.53.7 manually over the 
previous version.*


SeaMonkey 2.53.7 Release Notes 



Enjoy!

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So, what are the options for finding out about new releases after this 
newsgroup is gone?


Bob



What? You didn't read the 
 post?


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Re: What's New in SeaMonkey 2.53.7

2021-03-30 Thread Bob Fleischer 

On 3/30/2021 10:12 AM, WaltS48 wrote:
*You MUST absolutely do a full backup of your profile before upgrading 
from a version earlier than SeaMonkey 2.53.1. This version of SeaMonkey 
makes changes to your profile that can't be reverted in cases where you 
need to go back to the older version.*


*Automatic upgrades from previous versions are currently disabled for this 
release. Please download the full installer from the downloads section and 
install SeaMonkey 2.53.7 manually over the previous version.*


SeaMonkey 2.53.7 Release Notes 



Enjoy!

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So, what are the options for finding out about new releases after this 
newsgroup is gone?


Bob
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What's New in SeaMonkey 2.53.7

2021-03-30 Thread WaltS48 
*You MUST absolutely do a full backup of your profile before upgrading 
from a version earlier than SeaMonkey 2.53.1. This version of 
SeaMonkey makes changes to your profile that can't be reverted in 
cases where you need to go back to the older version.*


*Automatic upgrades from previous versions are currently disabled for 
this release. Please download the full installer from the downloads 
section and install SeaMonkey 2.53.7 manually over the previous version.*


SeaMonkey 2.53.7 Release Notes 



Enjoy!

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