Re: junk folder
meagain wrote: The "Junk" folder does not populate until I click on it. Why would any folder do that? I don't know but it was a conscious decision by the developers and it was made years - decades? - ago. There are probably posts here on that behaviour from around 2006, or posts on the preceding mozilla newsgroup from before that. -- spammo ergo sum, viruses courtesy of https://www.nsa.gov/malware/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
junk folder
The "Junk" folder does not populate until I click on it. Why would any folder do that? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Junk Folder
I've noticed that the "Junk" folder does not populate until I click on it. Why would any folder do that? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Note on Junk folder aging
As you know, the Junk folder has a feature where the user can specify that messages older than nn days are automatically deleted (actually, moved to Trash). Mail & Newsgroup Account Settings | Junk Settings [x] Automatically delete junk mail older than nn days It turns out that his wording is easily misunderstood. The phrase "junk mail" does not mean "messages in the Junk folder"; it means "messages tagged as Junk." The Junk folder can receive messages in three ways: 1) When a message is tagged as Junk, SM automatically moves it to the Junk folder if the user has set this preference: Edit | Preferences | Mail & Newsgroups | Junk & Suspect Mail When I mark messages as junk (•) Move them to the account's "Junk" folder 2) When a message is moved to the Junk folder by a user-defined filter 3) When the user manually moves a message to the Junk folder. Most users probably assume that any message that lands in Junk is equally subject to the same aging policy. It turns out that only messages tagged as Junk are deleted automatically. But messages arriving in the Junk folder that are not marked as Junk remain there indefinitely. So my advice is that when creating filters that move messages to the Junk folder, users should remember to include Junk marking as one of the actions taken. And when manually moving messages to Junk, the right way of doing it is to simply hit "J" to tag the message as Junk and let SM do the move itself. -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Messages in junk folder -- formatting missing
Ant wrote: I assume it was designed that way to prevent malicious activities no phoning home with graphics on remote servers, disabled HTML, etc. I don't know of a way to disable it. That sounds reasonable. If I can't disable that behavior, I'll try to modify my filtering systems so those messages are routed differently. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Messages in junk folder -- formatting missing
Daniel wrote: On 21/04/15 23:17, Bill Spikowski wrote: Messages moved to my junk folder are often missing all their formatting. I'm wondering if this is considered a feature of Seamonkey? Or a bug? Or might it be caused by the messages themselves? I train SM's adaptive junk system to route all kinds of routine and commercial messages to my junk folder, not because I don't want to read them but because I don't want them popping up in my inbox while I'm working. I also use SM filters to route messages to my junk folder -- but this problem seems to happen to messages that are routed by SM's own junk system. This behavior isn't new, but it seems curious. If it's a feature, is there any way I could turn it off? Bill, I set up my SM to send any junk messages direct to the Trash folder (Edit-Preferences-Mail Newsgroups-Junk Suspect Mail) Maybe you can set your SM up similarly, and then filter your all kinds of routine and commercial messages to your junk folder for later perusal!! Note, depending on your set-up, if you do filter your junk direct to the Trash folder, they may be deleted when you next close SM! I use my junk folder for two separate purposes: to hold messages marked as junk by Seamonkey's adaptive system, and to hold messages that my custom filters send to junk for later perusal. This works for me; most true spam is removed by mail server before it comes into Seamonkey, so my junk folder ends up holding stuff that mostly I want to look at -- when I have some down time! I also have filters that send certain messages directly to trash; those are messages that a few spammers that manage to regularly evade my server's spam filter, so I'm OK, thrilled actually, with them disappearing automatically. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Messages in junk folder -- formatting missing
On 21/04/15 23:17, Bill Spikowski wrote: Messages moved to my junk folder are often missing all their formatting. I'm wondering if this is considered a feature of Seamonkey? Or a bug? Or might it be caused by the messages themselves? I train SM's adaptive junk system to route all kinds of routine and commercial messages to my junk folder, not because I don't want to read them but because I don't want them popping up in my inbox while I'm working. I also use SM filters to route messages to my junk folder -- but this problem seems to happen to messages that are routed by SM's own junk system. This behavior isn't new, but it seems curious. If it's a feature, is there any way I could turn it off? Bill, I set up my SM to send any junk messages direct to the Trash folder (Edit-Preferences-Mail Newsgroups-Junk Suspect Mail) Maybe you can set your SM up similarly, and then filter your all kinds of routine and commercial messages to your junk folder for later perusal!! Note, depending on your set-up, if you do filter your junk direct to the Trash folder, they may be deleted when you next close SM! -- Daniel User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:35.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.32 Build identifier: 20141218225909 or User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:36.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.33 Build identifier: 20150215202114 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Messages in junk folder -- formatting missing
Messages moved to my junk folder are often missing all their formatting. I'm wondering if this is considered a feature of Seamonkey? Or a bug? Or might it be caused by the messages themselves? I train SM's adaptive junk system to route all kinds of routine and commercial messages to my junk folder, not because I don't want to read them but because I don't want them popping up in my inbox while I'm working. I also use SM filters to route messages to my junk folder -- but this problem seems to happen to messages that are routed by SM's own junk system. This behavior isn't new, but it seems curious. If it's a feature, is there any way I could turn it off? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Messages in junk folder -- formatting missing
I assume it was designed that way to prevent malicious activities no phoning home with graphics on remote servers, disabled HTML, etc. I don't know of a way to disable it. On 4/21/2015 6:17 AM, Bill Spikowski wrote: Messages moved to my junk folder are often missing all their formatting. I'm wondering if this is considered a feature of Seamonkey? Or a bug? Or might it be caused by the messages themselves? I train SM's adaptive junk system to route all kinds of routine and commercial messages to my junk folder, not because I don't want to read them but because I don't want them popping up in my inbox while I'm working. I also use SM filters to route messages to my junk folder -- but this problem seems to happen to messages that are routed by SM's own junk system. This behavior isn't new, but it seems curious. If it's a feature, is there any way I could turn it off? -- The foreign policy aim of ants can be summed up as follows: restless aggression, territorial conquest, and genocidal annihilation of neighboring colonies whenever possible. If ants had nuclear weapons, they would probably end the world in a week. --Journey to the Ants, page 59. Bert Holldobler Edward O. Wilson /\___/\ Ant(Dude) @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) / /\ /\ \Ant's Quality Foraged Links: http://aqfl.net | |o o| | \ _ /If crediting, then use Ant nickname and AQFL URL/link. ( ) Chop ANT from its address if e-mailing privately. Ant is currently not listening to any songs on this computer. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey Mail Drafts and Junk Folder Corrupted
On 31/10/2014 9:17 AM, mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote: David S wrote: On Thursday, October 30, 2014 3:17:51 AM UTC-7, Daniel wrote: On 30/10/14 15:17, david wrote: Using 2.26.1, Vista, and seemed that Mail is acting really slow. Then found that several mail folders contain HUGE files for empty folders. The Drafts folder has a size of 1.2GB and it contains no drafts (empty) while the Junk folder is shown as 195MB and is empty as well. I have hit the Repair Folder button several times for each folder, with no change. Then I deleted their respective .msf files, and no change as well. Inbox folder contains messages but file space reserved seems high as well. Then I considered whether I had corrupt disc file space and used CheckDisc to scan entire C drive. Checkdisc did not find any disc corruption. Any ideas on how to fix this? Delete the Drafts and Junk Folders manually and reinstall Seamonkey? Thanks David, did you try File-Empty Trash and then File-Compact Folders? When SM deletes a file (or copys to another folder, I think), the file is not actually removed from the Inbox, it is marked for deletion and made invisible. When you Empty Trash *and then* Compact Folders, it is actually deleted, releasing all saved space back to your system. I'm guessing the same would apply to your Draft folder as well. -- Daniel Thanks Daniel, that did the job, and released 10GB of space on the HD. You might want to take a look at the option: Edit Preferences Mail Newsgroups Network Storage Compact all folders when it will save over [...] MB in total SeaMonkey will then prompt you to compact folders when compacting folders would save more than that amount of space. If you find it keeps popping up too often, you can always increase the threshold. Mark. Good one, Mark. I had forgotten about the auto-setting. -- Daniel User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:32.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.29 Build identifier: 20140829003846 or User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:33.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.30 Build identifier: 20141009214701 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey Mail Drafts and Junk Folder Corrupted
On 30/10/14 15:17, david.szafran...@gmail.com wrote: Using 2.26.1, Vista, and seemed that Mail is acting really slow. Then found that several mail folders contain HUGE files for empty folders. The Drafts folder has a size of 1.2GB and it contains no drafts (empty) while the Junk folder is shown as 195MB and is empty as well. I have hit the Repair Folder button several times for each folder, with no change. Then I deleted their respective .msf files, and no change as well. Inbox folder contains messages but file space reserved seems high as well. Then I considered whether I had corrupt disc file space and used CheckDisc to scan entire C drive. Checkdisc did not find any disc corruption. Any ideas on how to fix this? Delete the Drafts and Junk Folders manually and reinstall Seamonkey? Thanks David, did you try File-Empty Trash and then File-Compact Folders? When SM deletes a file (or copys to another folder, I think), the file is not actually removed from the Inbox, it is marked for deletion and made invisible. When you Empty Trash *and then* Compact Folders, it is actually deleted, releasing all saved space back to your system. I'm guessing the same would apply to your Draft folder as well. -- Daniel User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:32.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.29 Build identifier: 20140829003846 or User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:33.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.30 Build identifier: 20141009214701 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey Mail Drafts and Junk Folder Corrupted
On Thursday, October 30, 2014 3:17:51 AM UTC-7, Daniel wrote: On 30/10/14 15:17, david wrote: Using 2.26.1, Vista, and seemed that Mail is acting really slow. Then found that several mail folders contain HUGE files for empty folders. The Drafts folder has a size of 1.2GB and it contains no drafts (empty) while the Junk folder is shown as 195MB and is empty as well. I have hit the Repair Folder button several times for each folder, with no change. Then I deleted their respective .msf files, and no change as well. Inbox folder contains messages but file space reserved seems high as well. Then I considered whether I had corrupt disc file space and used CheckDisc to scan entire C drive. Checkdisc did not find any disc corruption. Any ideas on how to fix this? Delete the Drafts and Junk Folders manually and reinstall Seamonkey? Thanks David, did you try File-Empty Trash and then File-Compact Folders? When SM deletes a file (or copys to another folder, I think), the file is not actually removed from the Inbox, it is marked for deletion and made invisible. When you Empty Trash *and then* Compact Folders, it is actually deleted, releasing all saved space back to your system. I'm guessing the same would apply to your Draft folder as well. -- Daniel Thanks Daniel, that did the job, and released 10GB of space on the HD. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey Mail Drafts and Junk Folder Corrupted
David S wrote: On Thursday, October 30, 2014 3:17:51 AM UTC-7, Daniel wrote: On 30/10/14 15:17, david wrote: Using 2.26.1, Vista, and seemed that Mail is acting really slow. Then found that several mail folders contain HUGE files for empty folders. The Drafts folder has a size of 1.2GB and it contains no drafts (empty) while the Junk folder is shown as 195MB and is empty as well. I have hit the Repair Folder button several times for each folder, with no change. Then I deleted their respective .msf files, and no change as well. Inbox folder contains messages but file space reserved seems high as well. Then I considered whether I had corrupt disc file space and used CheckDisc to scan entire C drive. Checkdisc did not find any disc corruption. Any ideas on how to fix this? Delete the Drafts and Junk Folders manually and reinstall Seamonkey? Thanks David, did you try File-Empty Trash and then File-Compact Folders? When SM deletes a file (or copys to another folder, I think), the file is not actually removed from the Inbox, it is marked for deletion and made invisible. When you Empty Trash *and then* Compact Folders, it is actually deleted, releasing all saved space back to your system. I'm guessing the same would apply to your Draft folder as well. -- Daniel Thanks Daniel, that did the job, and released 10GB of space on the HD. You might want to take a look at the option: Edit Preferences Mail Newsgroups Network Storage Compact all folders when it will save over [...] MB in total SeaMonkey will then prompt you to compact folders when compacting folders would save more than that amount of space. If you find it keeps popping up too often, you can always increase the threshold. Mark. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Seamonkey Mail Drafts and Junk Folder Corrupted
Using 2.26.1, Vista, and seemed that Mail is acting really slow. Then found that several mail folders contain HUGE files for empty folders. The Drafts folder has a size of 1.2GB and it contains no drafts (empty) while the Junk folder is shown as 195MB and is empty as well. I have hit the Repair Folder button several times for each folder, with no change. Then I deleted their respective .msf files, and no change as well. Inbox folder contains messages but file space reserved seems high as well. Then I considered whether I had corrupt disc file space and used CheckDisc to scan entire C drive. Checkdisc did not find any disc corruption. Any ideas on how to fix this? Delete the Drafts and Junk Folders manually and reinstall Seamonkey? Thanks ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
SM 2.17.1 Junk folder question
I cannot find a location to set the days for messages toremain in the Junk Folder before being automatically deleted. All I can find is a way to manually delete them all. Am I overlooking it, or has it been removed? TIA . bj ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.17.1 Junk folder question
chicagofan wrote: I cannot find a location to set the days for messages toremain in the Junk Folder before being automatically deleted. All I can find is a way to manually delete them all. Am I overlooking it, or has it been removed? EDIT | MAIL NEWSGROUP ACCOUNT SETTINGS | JUNK SETTINGS | DESTINATION AND RETENTION ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.17.1 Junk folder question
BIll Spikowski wrote: chicagofan wrote: I cannot find a location to set the days for messages toremain in the Junk Folder before being automatically deleted. All I can find is a way to manually delete them all. Am I overlooking it, or has it been removed? EDIT | MAIL NEWSGROUP ACCOUNT SETTINGS | JUNK SETTINGS | DESTINATION AND RETENTION Thanks so much! I didn't notice that part of the window was off screen I didn't scroll down far enough. :) bj ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: After 2.9.x upgrade, slower to empty Junk folder
Greetings, I also noticed SM 2.9.1 running on Windows XP Pro with NTFS is equally slower about deleting all messages from the Junk folder. So this is a cross-platform observation. What happened between the 2.8.x series and the 2.9.x series that would make deleting all Junk messages extremely slower? Sincerely, -- Michael Lueck Lueck Data Systems http://www.lueckdatasystems.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
After 2.9.x upgrade, slower to empty Junk folder
Greetings, I run the official SM 2.9.1 on Ubuntu 10.04 x64 installed via UbuntuZilla. I have noticed that since the 2.9.x series upgrade, emptying the Junk folder takes a noticeably longer time. Yes I do compact all accounts once a week before I pull a profile backup. Right after a compact, it is still slower than emptying the Junk folder on 2.8 and prior. Any thoughts of other things contained in the 2.9.x series that could be negatively affecting performance? Sincerely, -- Michael Lueck Lueck Data Systems http://www.lueckdatasystems.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: After 2.9.x upgrade, slower to empty Junk folder
Michael Lueck wrote: Greetings, I run the official SM 2.9.1 on Ubuntu 10.04 x64 installed via UbuntuZilla. I have noticed that since the 2.9.x series upgrade, emptying the Junk folder takes a noticeably longer time. Yes I do compact all accounts once a week before I pull a profile backup. Right after a compact, it is still slower than emptying the Junk folder on 2.8 and prior. Any thoughts of other things contained in the 2.9.x series that could be negatively affecting performance? Sincerely, Could it be that Ubunutu not ideal ? ;-) -- ~Vink ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
