Re: scrambled columns in sending e-mails
NFN Smith wrote on 22-03-18 20:30: Ray_Net wrote: Mort Linder wrote on 18-03-18 17:54: Hi, I have a recurring problem. type up an e-mail with neat vertical columns, and the recipient (and my SENT box) gets scrambled results, making it difficult or impossible to properly read the e-mail. How can I send out e-mails that retain my columnar structure? When I need a perfect structure, I create an Excel sheet - then PrintScreen - then paste into paint - then select what I need and Copy/Paste into the mail. Or you can copy just the cells that you need, and paste directly into an HTML message. That pastes everything into the message as a table. I do that regularly with a summary report. The source application is that its UI is annoying, where the default handling of reports is to output to screen (and in only small fragments). To get the full report (and more control over output, including columns that can be resized and/or re-sorted), the easiest way of handling is to output to a spreadsheet, do the editing that I need, and then copy/paste into an email that I send to several recipients. It's a kludgy way to do things, but that's what works in the context of what we have available from the provider, and what fits into our specific work flows. For what it's worth, I've been playing with LibreOffice, and with the new V6 release, Calc does this task a little better than Excel does. In particular, if I want outlines of individual cells, with Excel, I have to manually add outlining in the email message. With Calc V6, those are already there, even if they weren't in V5. I don't know if that's a more generic thing, but it's certainly the case with this particular task. The advantage of this approach over doing a PrintScreen is that the output is still text (which can be copied/pasted, zoomed and otherwise edited) over a raw graphic image. Yes, but depending of the mail-options of the receiver (per example, accepting only pure text) in such a way that he loose the structure. With a graphic image, the result is correct. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: scrambled columns in sending e-mails
Ray_Net wrote: Mort Linder wrote on 18-03-18 17:54: Hi, I have a recurring problem. type up an e-mail with neat vertical columns, and the recipient (and my SENT box) gets scrambled results, making it difficult or impossible to properly read the e-mail. How can I send out e-mails that retain my columnar structure? When I need a perfect structure, I create an Excel sheet - then PrintScreen - then paste into paint - then select what I need and Copy/Paste into the mail. Or you can copy just the cells that you need, and paste directly into an HTML message. That pastes everything into the message as a table. I do that regularly with a summary report. The source application is that its UI is annoying, where the default handling of reports is to output to screen (and in only small fragments). To get the full report (and more control over output, including columns that can be resized and/or re-sorted), the easiest way of handling is to output to a spreadsheet, do the editing that I need, and then copy/paste into an email that I send to several recipients. It's a kludgy way to do things, but that's what works in the context of what we have available from the provider, and what fits into our specific work flows. For what it's worth, I've been playing with LibreOffice, and with the new V6 release, Calc does this task a little better than Excel does. In particular, if I want outlines of individual cells, with Excel, I have to manually add outlining in the email message. With Calc V6, those are already there, even if they weren't in V5. I don't know if that's a more generic thing, but it's certainly the case with this particular task. The advantage of this approach over doing a PrintScreen is that the output is still text (which can be copied/pasted, zoomed and otherwise edited) over a raw graphic image. Smith ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: scrambled columns in sending e-mails
Mort Linder wrote on 18-03-18 17:54: Hi, I have a recurring problem. type up an e-mail with neat vertical columns, and the recipient (and my SENT box) gets scrambled results, making it difficult or impossible to properly read the e-mail. How can I send out e-mails that retain my columnar structure? When I need a perfect structure, I create an Excel sheet - then PrintScreen - then paste into paint - then select what I need and Copy/Paste into the mail. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: scrambled columns in sending e-mails
Lemuel Johnson wrote: On 3/18/2018 11:54 AM, Mort Linder wrote: Hi, I have a recurring problem. type up an e-mail with neat vertical columns, and the recipient (and my SENT box) gets scrambled results, making it difficult or impossible to properly read the e-mail. How can I send out e-mails that retain my columnar structure? Thanks, Mort Linder --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus Another option for rich text (HTML): use menu Insert->Table Thanks, Lemuel. Mort ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: scrambled columns in sending e-mails
On 3/18/2018 11:54 AM, Mort Linder wrote: Hi, I have a recurring problem. type up an e-mail with neat vertical columns, and the recipient (and my SENT box) gets scrambled results, making it difficult or impossible to properly read the e-mail. How can I send out e-mails that retain my columnar structure? Thanks, Mort Linder --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus Another option for rich text (HTML): use menu Insert->Table ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: scrambled columns in sending e-mails
Richard Alan wrote: Mort Linder wrote: I have a recurring problem. type up an e-mail with neat vertical columns, and the recipient (and my SENT box) gets scrambled results, making it difficult or impossible to properly read the e-mail. How can I send out e-mails that retain my columnar structure? There is no sure way to do what you want, except for creating a PDF document (or poor second choice, an image) and attach it to your email. Use another tool to create it: word processor/spreadsheet/text editor... The reasons are many: plaintext/HTML mail; local client/webmail; fixed/ proportional font choices among the reasons. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus Please set your Avast options to not include their advertising. Thanks. Hi, I found the Avast ad turn-off and did so. Thanks. Mort ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: scrambled columns in sending e-mails
Mort Linder wrote: Hi, I have a recurring problem. type up an e-mail with neat vertical columns, and the recipient (and my SENT box) gets scrambled results, making it difficult or impossible to properly read the e-mail. How can I send out e-mails that retain my columnar structure? Thanks, Mort Linder --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus Thanks for the several replies. Mort Linder ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: scrambled columns in sending e-mails
Mort Linder wrote: Hi, I have a recurring problem. type up an e-mail with neat vertical columns, and the recipient (and my SENT box) gets scrambled results, making it difficult or impossible to properly read the e-mail. How can I send out e-mails that retain my columnar structure? Thanks, Mort Linder --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus Use a monospace font. Proportional fonts do not have every letter with the same width. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: scrambled columns in sending e-mails
Felix Miata wrote: Mort Linder composed on 2018-03-18 12:54 (UTC-0400): I have a recurring problem. type up an e-mail with neat vertical columns, and the recipient (and my SENT box) gets scrambled results, making it difficult or impossible to properly read the e-mail. How can I send out e-mails that retain my columnar structure? You are composing email in plain text format, which uses monospaced fonts. Your readers are reading proportional fonts. Various ways to possibly solve the problem include: 1-Direct your readers set their email readers to read using monospace fonts. 2-Compose using rich text (HTML) format (to induce use of monospace fonts). 3-Include by itself on the first line of your message, and on the last line of your message. 4-have your readers use a different email reader. +1. Those are the only ways that I have been able to do it. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: scrambled columns in sending e-mails
Mort Linder composed on 2018-03-18 12:54 (UTC-0400): > I have a recurring problem. type up an e-mail with neat vertical > columns, and the recipient (and my SENT box) gets scrambled results, > making it difficult or impossible to properly read the e-mail. > How can I send out e-mails that retain my columnar structure? You are composing email in plain text format, which uses monospaced fonts. Your readers are reading proportional fonts. Various ways to possibly solve the problem include: 1-Direct your readers set their email readers to read using monospace fonts. 2-Compose using rich text (HTML) format (to induce use of monospace fonts). 3-Include by itself on the first line of your message, and on the last line of your message. 4-have your readers use a different email reader. -- "Wisdom is supreme; therefore get wisdom. Whatever else you get, get wisdom." Proverbs 4:7 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: scrambled columns in sending e-mails
Mort Linder wrote: > I have a recurring problem. type up an e-mail with neat vertical > columns, and the recipient (and my SENT box) gets scrambled results, > making it difficult or impossible to properly read the e-mail. > > How can I send out e-mails that retain my columnar structure? There is no sure way to do what you want, except for creating a PDF document (or poor second choice, an image) and attach it to your email. Use another tool to create it: word processor/spreadsheet/text editor... The reasons are many: plaintext/HTML mail; local client/webmail; fixed/ proportional font choices among the reasons. > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus Please set your Avast options to not include their advertising. Thanks. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: scrambled columns in sending e-mails
On 3/18/2018 at 12:54 PM, Mort Linder created this epitome of digital genius: Hi, I have a recurring problem. type up an e-mail with neat vertical columns, and the recipient (and my SENT box) gets scrambled results, making it difficult or impossible to properly read the e-mail. How can I send out e-mails that retain my columnar structure? Thanks, Mort Linder --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus How are you making the columns? In plain text using spaces? Inserting a table? Composing in plain text or HTML? -- Ed Mullen http://edmullen.net/ Just for today, I will not sit in my living room all day in my underwear. Instead, I will move my computer into the bedroom. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
scrambled columns in sending e-mails
Hi, I have a recurring problem. type up an e-mail with neat vertical columns, and the recipient (and my SENT box) gets scrambled results, making it difficult or impossible to properly read the e-mail. How can I send out e-mails that retain my columnar structure? Thanks, Mort Linder --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
