FEATURE REQUEST: email in new tab (just like opera)

[Viliam Kubis]

... the only thing holding me back from switching to SeaMonkey. Any plans  
to implement it in the future? Please? :)


Also see this topic, started by me, navigaring to chrome URL works good  
but is unstable, maybe only little modifications are needed to make it  
fully operational?

http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=2138153

I'd like to hear some technical / practical implementation details about  
this, thank you.


Best Regards
Viliam Kubis

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Re: FEATURE REQUEST: email in new tab (just like opera)

[Viliam Kubis]

Of course as an option, not fixed for everybody. You could choose whether  
to open the mail client in the traditional way (new window) or in new tab.


VK

On Tue, 12 Apr 2011 23:52:48 +0200, WLS  wrote:


Viliam Kubis wrote:

... the only thing holding me back from switching to SeaMonkey. Any
plans to implement it in the future? Please? :)

Also see this topic, started by me, navigaring to chrome URL works good
but is unstable, maybe only little modifications are needed to make it
fully operational?
http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=2138153

I'd like to hear some technical / practical implementation details about
this, thank you.

Best Regards
Viliam Kubis



I certainly hope not.

WLS



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Re: FEATURE REQUEST: email in new tab (just like opera)

[Viliam Kubis]

That's a matter of perspective. Sure the email client is somethig  
completely different than a web page in a browser tab, but I think I'm not  
the only one who would like to have their email client in a new tab right  
next to their open webpages. I, for my self, am used to tabbed browsing in  
such an extent that when I receive a new email in seamonkey I go:


- ok, now, where's that webpage I want to copy something from? Oh, it's in  
a new window. Ok, click there. Now click on the webpage's tab. Information  
copied.
- now where's that email I am writing? I see, different window again.  
Switch & paste.


That's just my personal habits, and of course it requires only a little of  
concentration to realise that the email is actually in a different window,  
but when you try to do things fast and you do not have a lot of time, you  
rely on your personal habits, preferences and experiences to perform  
specific actions to complete your task. So many times that I work in  
seamonkey and have 15 tabs open, I spend a couple of seconds looking at  
them and searching for "that email tab" before realising "aha, it's a  
different window".


I would not be asking to implement this "out of the blue", but seeing that  
entering chrome://messenger/content/messenger.xul in the address bar in a  
new tab actually opens the email client that partially *works*, but  
crashes upon many common actions, made me thinking that maybe it's not  
that difficult to implement from the development perspective / in terms of  
code. Maybe there are few places in the code of the messenger that rely on  
"i'm sure i'm in a window, so call it's xxx method / perform action x". Of  
course I have never seen mozilla rendering engine and/or any part of the  
seamonkey code, so that's why I would like to hear some pros and cons of  
the concept, in terms of code / development costs and not personal  
preferences whether this feature is practical or not.


I realise that there are many more important goals in the seamonkey  
project than this one, but it's just a feature request that I think many  
people (including me) would find convenient.


Thank you

On Wed, 13 Apr 2011 00:12:47 +0200, Ray_Net  
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Viliam Kubis wrote:

Of course as an option, not fixed for everybody. You could choose
whether to open the mail client in the traditional way (new window) or
in new tab.


This look inconsistent.
Mail is not another web page, it's completely different.
Opera is wrong - he mixed two different things: an object and a  
collection of objects ...

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Re: FEATURE REQUEST: email in new tab (just like opera)

[Viliam Kubis]

Ok, so there are about 50% to 50% negative and positive comments on this  
feature request, I think it's really worth implementing folks :)


Also, consider this: when you are using gmail WEB interface, you basically  
have your email in a new tab. Why not have seamonkey mail client in a new  
tab? To many people, it would make a significant improvement. Of course to  
use gmail web interface you could just be using any other browser, but we  
all know, that seamonkey email client is better, faster, and what's more  
important - built in. Why toss it away in a different window?


Now I'm actually wondering, if those that displayed 100% negative attitude  
towards this change, were actually the developers of seamonkey.


And if not, if any developer of seamonkey has to say anything regarding  
this issue [in terms of development costs, please].


Thanks

VK

On Wed, 13 Apr 2011 07:17:39 +0200, NoOp   
wrote:



On 04/12/2011 12:52 PM, Viliam Kubis wrote:
... the only thing holding me back from switching to SeaMonkey. Any  
plans

to implement it in the future? Please? :)

Also see this topic, started by me, navigaring to chrome URL works good
but is unstable, maybe only little modifications are needed to make it
fully operational?
http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=2138153

I'd like to hear some technical / practical implementation details about
this, thank you.

Best Regards
Viliam Kubis



I like it. It also possibly resolves an issue with netbook screen issues
in the "New & Improved (sarcasm)" Ubuntu Unity desktop.

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Re: FEATURE REQUEST: email in new tab (just like opera)

[Viliam Kubis]

AGREED, tabs are the way to go!!

On Wed, 13 Apr 2011 20:34:52 +0200, Rufus  wrote:


NoOp wrote:

On 04/12/2011 08:49 PM, PhillipJones wrote:

Viliam Kubis wrote:

... the only thing holding me back from switching to SeaMonkey. Any
plans to implement it in the future? Please? :)

Also see this topic, started by me, navigaring to chrome URL works  
good

but is unstable, maybe only little modifications are needed to make it
fully operational?
http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=2138153

I'd like to hear some technical / practical implementation details  
about

this, thank you.

Best Regards
Viliam Kubis


No! No! No! No!

It bad enough to deal with tabs in web Browser. We don't need such
silliness in email.



Says the anti-tabs curmudgeon...



Tabs ROCK!!!




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Re: Errors with YouTube

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I'm getting this as well, if I open developer console and check the network tab 
every like, removelike, dislike, comment_action, user menu, add to watch later, 
subscribe etc returns 401 unauthorized. I don't know why, these problems 
started around april first. I just upgraded to 2.53.1 to see if it would 
resolve the issue, but no.

I've also tried signing out (which does work on video upload screen, also user 
menu works there) and signing back in, but that didn't help as well.

Comparing the requests witch chrome's, they doesn't seem much different. Going 
to dig further.
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Re: Errors with YouTube

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Setting user agent to firefox 60 doesn't help, also firefox 61, 62, and from 63 
onwards we get window.customElements is undefined - and the whole page is 
broken.
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Re: Errors with YouTube

[viliam . kubis]

On Saturday, April 4, 2020 at 12:20:15 PM UTC+2, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
> > I'm getting this as well, if I open developer console and check the network 
> > tab every like, removelike, dislike, comment_action, user menu, add to 
> > watch later, subscribe etc returns 401 unauthorized. I don't know why, 
> > these problems started around april first. I just upgraded to 2.53.1 to see 
> > if it would resolve the issue, but no.
> > 
> > I've also tried signing out (which does work on video upload screen, also 
> > user menu works there) and signing back in, but that didn't help as well.
> > 
> > Comparing the requests witch chrome's, they doesn't seem much different. 
> > Going to dig further.
> > 
> 
> Google is rolling out a new design using polymer V2 using Custom Elements and 
> Shadow Dom. Firefox supports it since around 65 but it is really optimized 
> for 
> Chrome only. No ETA yet for SeaMonkey. It is on the list.
> 
> https://polymer-library.polymer-project.org/2.0/docs/about_20
> 
> FRG

Oh, thank you! :) So youtube in chrome until then only? Or maybe if we force 
one of the old designs somehow? It was possible in the past. Let me look it up.
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Re: Errors with YouTube

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Setting general.useragent.override.youtube.com to "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 
10.0; Win64; x64; rv:68.9) Gecko/20100101 Goanna/4.4 Firefox/68.9 
PaleMoon/28.8.0" temporarily works, althrough youtube displays "we'll stop 
supporting this browser soon". This gives you back one of the old layouts, 
almost the same you get with ?disable_polymer=true query parameter. But you 
have to append that every time, I think there's an extension for that, but I 
didn't try.
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Re: Errors with YouTube

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On Sunday, April 5, 2020 at 1:57:10 AM UTC+2, David E. Ross wrote:
> On 3/22/2020 11:56 AM, EE wrote:
> > Starting yesterday evening, I suddenly got only an error message when I 
> > tried to play YouTube videos.  The message was something about the 
> > connection not working, and try again later.  I had the same thing with 
> > Pale Moon.  After blocking an external javascript called "tampering.js", 
> > the videos were fine again.  Has YouTube done something with its 
> > interface to try to block certain browsers?  I had no problem with 
> > Vivaldi, Slimjet, or Safari.
> > 
> 
> Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 x64
> Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101
>   SeaMonkey/2.49.5
> 
> Today, I went to YouTube and played several versions of Schumann's
> "Piano Concerto in A minor".
> 
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> 
> 
> Would the United States be more prepared to deal with COVID-19
> if President Trump had not cut the budgets of the National
> Institutes of Health (NIH) and the Centers for Disease Control
> and Prevention (CDC)?  His administration also eliminated the
> Directorate for Global Health and Security and Bio-Defense,
> the agency within the National Security Council tasked to
> provide early warnings about epidemics and pandemics.
> 
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Yes, that one also gives you the old layout for now :) New layout still 401 on 
almost any action
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Re: Errors with YouTube

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On Monday, April 6, 2020 at 5:50:42 AM UTC+2, Lemuel Johnson wrote:
> On 4/1/2020 1:18 PM:
> > On Sunday, March 22, 2020 at 2:56:56 PM UTC-4, EE wrote:
> > 
> > I've been unable to post replies or comments for around four days using 
> > Seamonkey 2.53.1. I also can't like videos. The left sidebar that shows 
> > subscriptions and other things comes and goes.  In looking around the 
> > youtube website on what are probably less frequently frequented pages other 
> > things work and then don't too.
> > 
> > However, I seem to be able to post etc using Firefox 74.0.
> > 
> > Is this perhaps a UA issue?
> > 
> 
> Does Youtube work better if you access it with
> https://www.youtube.com/?disable_polymer=1
> 
> Lem Johnson

Yes because it gives you the old layout
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Re: Errors with YouTube

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On Tuesday, April 7, 2020 at 3:04:16 AM UTC+2, qbr...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Sunday, April 5, 2020 at 11:50:42 PM UTC-4, Lemuel Johnson wrote:
> > On 4/1/2020 1:18 PM:
> > > On Sunday, March 22, 2020 at 2:56:56 PM UTC-4, EE wrote:
> > > 
> > > I've been unable to post replies or comments for around four days using 
> > > Seamonkey 2.53.1. I also can't like videos. The left sidebar that shows 
> > > subscriptions and other things comes and goes.  In looking around the 
> > > youtube website on what are probably less frequently frequented pages 
> > > other things work and then don't too.
> > > 
> > > However, I seem to be able to post etc using Firefox 74.0.
> > > 
> > > Is this perhaps a UA issue?
> > > 
> > 
> > Does Youtube work better if you access it with
> > https://www.youtube.com/?disable_polymer=1
> 
> A few things are better, but clicking the notification bell and the user 
> thing in the upper right hand corner still gets the never ending loading 
> circle.
> 
> Navigating away from the home page still has many of the same problems.  I 
> didn't try commenting on anything.

Voting or subscribing actually doesn't work, althrough it appears it does. Just 
subscribe and give thumbs up to video or comment, refresh and your actions are 
gone. Also if you open developer tools and watch XHR requests your actions will 
end up with 401 (unauthorized).
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