Re: [Sursound] Ambisonics max/MSP 8 speakers - ICST Ambisonic Externals

2011-03-22 Thread Hector Centeno
Hello Darren,

You can download the package I made for ambdec here:
http://www.hcenteno.net/extras/ambdec_0.4.2.pkg

You require JackOSX ( www.jackosx.com ) and X11 (this last one should
be already installed if you have OS X 10.5 or above).

I also made a launcher that will be installed in your applications
directory, in a folder containing both the launcher app and the ambdec
presets.

I haven't fully tested this installer so please let me know if you
encounter any problems.

Best,

Hector Centeno

p.s. I don't have bidule so I've not tested those ambisonic bidules.
I'll keep it in mind for when I get a chance.

On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 9:44 AM, Darren - Bradley
i...@sacredresonance.com.au wrote:
 Thanks I would like to download the OS X  version when you have done it

 I sent you an email hopefully you got it otherwise please forward it onto me
 when you have done it,

 many thanks

 also what you think of  - Ambisonic Bidules   -
 http://www.digenis.co.uk/?page_id=59 ?

 cheers
 Darren

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Re: [Sursound] Hey Hector - Ambisonics ambdec fail on install

2011-03-22 Thread Anthony Palomba
Can someone please post a link to ambdec?



Anthony



On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 7:08 AM, Darren - Bradley 
i...@sacredresonance.com.au wrote:

 Hi Hector,

 on the launch of the software the ambdec it fails so there must be an issue
 with the install,

 cheers

 Darren

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Re: [Sursound] Hey Hector - Ambisonics ambdec fail on install

2011-03-22 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier

On 03/22/2011 01:39 PM, Anthony Palomba wrote:

Can someone please post a link to ambdec?


temporary location while fons is having problems with his ISP:

http://kokkinizita.linuxaudio.org/linuxaudio/downloads/index.html




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Re: [Sursound] horizontal-only decoder design for line sources

2011-03-22 Thread Richard Lee
I think this is a virgin field of research.

On the practical design of line sources for large venues, it may be that we 
can only achieve ..more even coverage, as you increase the distance from a 
speaker system to the nearest listener. This also makes it rather more 
comfortable for the nearest listener.

Having had some success with designing stereo speaker for a larger listening 
area[1], my initial thoughts on speakers for domestic ambi were -- design for 
mounting near the ceiling with directivity such that maximum loudness would be 
on the opposite side of the room.  All combined with (at the time, 
non-existent?) digital room  speaker EQ.

But this discussion seems about much larger areas and apart from my crude 
efforts, no one else seems prepared to report their experiences.

I note a deafening silence from the York  Derby Ambisonic Mafia who probably 
have more experience with large area playback than the rest of the world put 
together.

 that's not really true. the sweet spot in the strict ambisonic sense is a 
 function of order and wavelength only.

That's only strictly true for LF where Ambi is a (crude?) form or WFS ie when 
it attempts to recreate the soundfield at a point.  An IEC Listening Room,  2.5 
x 6 x 4m is a point at 20Hz.

While MAG's rE appears to predict what happens when this no longer holds true 
on a domestic scale , we don't know how listeners react to large area Ambi 
soundfields.

Please do pontificate on this subject but lets hear from those who have tried 
stuff out so we can test these prophecies.

You probably do need special decoders for horizontal ambi with line sources, 
but what these need to do is a new field.  I can only report from my small 
experiments, that a normal Classic Decoder seems to work well.

 that's another thing worth exploring: the funktion one guys have reported 
 that ambi rigs have an advantage in this respect, because the ratio of useful 
 loudness inside to leaked emission outside of the array is better than with 
 stereo (or maybe even conventional four-point) playback systems.

This is very obvious even for domestic ambi systems.

As well as the very real sense of something real happening within the circle of 
speakers when viewed from outside.  Peter Lennox thinks it's just glorified 
stereo but the effect is so startling that it must be more than that.

[1] Loudspeakers and the Stereo Seat - G Millward, HFN, 1981?
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