Re: [Sursound] Trans-Dimensional Portal
Marc Lavallée wrote : This list is not the place to explain why, but I must also mention that I'm strictly non-Facebook. Amen ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound
Re: [Sursound] Trans-Dimensional Portal
Eric Benjamin wrote : I don't understand what would be the benefit of a facebook group I certainly sympathize with all of those who have posted anti-facebook comments. That is why I maintain only a minimal facebook presence. But it does seem to me that there are some benefits. Like accompanying commentary with supplementary pictures or audio recordings. Thought TBL sorted that in 198? err, a webpage? Michael ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound
Re: [Sursound] Trans-Dimensional Portal
John Leonard wrote: Hmm, I'm strictly non-Facebook and I'm afraid I'm not going to change my views, even for Ambisonics. Ditto. In my case, the reason was elegantly explained by Douglas Adams: I've [Douglas Adams has] come up with a set of rules that describe our reactions to technology: 1. Anything that is in the world when you're born is normal and ordinary and is just a natural part of the way the world works. 2. Anything that's invented between when you're fifteen and thirty-five is new and exciting and revolutionary and you can probably get a career in it. 3. Anything invented after you're thirty-five is against the natural order of things. [From The Salmon of Doubt by Douglas Adams, 2002] Regards, Martin -- Martin J Leese E-mail: martin.leese stanfordalumni.org Web: http://members.tripod.com/martin_leese/ ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound
[Sursound] Soundfield SPS422 modification to add b-format outputs
Hi All I have been advised that the Soundfield SPS422 preamp can be modified relatively easily to add b-format outputs. Has anyone here carried out this mod? I would be very interested to hear from anyone that has any advice on the subject. Regards Dan Andrews -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/attachments/20121008/40415ba7/attachment.html ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound
Re: [Sursound] Trans-Dimensional Portal
Oh well, looks like I am the odd one out, again...I am on FB, but under what for convenience I will call my stage name, which my friends know and understand but my music students or the idly curious will never find; On 08/10/2012 21:54, Fons Adriaensen wrote: In my case, the *reason* is that IMHO FB is a big swindle, and not stimulating anything positive, au contraire. I was not aware this was a requirement of a website. I doubt very much my own website stimulates anything much at all - hmm, donations via paypal remain conspicuous by their absence...so this must be the reason, then. Clearly the internet should be a commerce-free zone, like what it used to be, I guess. Earning money is so last century. Who pays for FB ? The advertisers. Who pays the advertisers ? The consumers who buy the product or services advertised. Hmm, not me - I don't buy anything. The adverts I see are all irrelevant, and sometimes amusingly random. And, really, not very intrusive. It's hard to believe they would find any paying customers at all. I think it amounts to rather less than the ultimate conspiracy theory. So in the end we, the consumers, are paying ourselves for being profiled, analysed and swindled by targeted commercial 'information'. The only thing I am paying for is my ISP; I use FB as a free resource. I rather suspect, au contraire, I am being swindled by my supplier of electricity and gas. With one or two exceptions, all my FB Friends are actually friends in real life. I don't spend hours on it (except when I forget to log off). I have had the odd useful chat with someone to arrange to meet up or whatever. I sometimes use it a bit like twitter (which I have yet to sign up to) without the 140 char limit, when it amuses me to do so. The most the profilers will get from me is random pictures of cute animals, flowers, or views of Stourhead (ho, dangerously valuable personal info there!), and the odd shared link of topical interest. Strangely, I see no adverts at all for either flowers or cute animals. But, I did close my LinkedIn account, as I really could not see the point of it, for me. YMMV etc. Richard Dobson ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound
Re: [Sursound] Trans-Dimensional Portal
It is rather alarming how insubstantial it all is-- google ,facebook, apple selling gadgets that are really quite useless and google and facebook making money on ads and no other way(google sells how far up the search list you are but that is ad stuff too in effect) The whole USA and a good deal of the world economy seems to be turning into castles in the air. Robert On Tue, 9 Oct 2012, Richard Dobson wrote: Oh well, looks like I am the odd one out, again...I am on FB, but under what for convenience I will call my stage name, which my friends know and understand but my music students or the idly curious will never find; On 08/10/2012 21:54, Fons Adriaensen wrote: In my case, the *reason* is that IMHO FB is a big swindle, and not stimulating anything positive, au contraire. I was not aware this was a requirement of a website. I doubt very much my own website stimulates anything much at all - hmm, donations via paypal remain conspicuous by their absence...so this must be the reason, then. Clearly the internet should be a commerce-free zone, like what it used to be, I guess. Earning money is so last century. Who pays for FB ? The advertisers. Who pays the advertisers ? The consumers who buy the product or services advertised. Hmm, not me - I don't buy anything. The adverts I see are all irrelevant, and sometimes amusingly random. And, really, not very intrusive. It's hard to believe they would find any paying customers at all. I think it amounts to rather less than the ultimate conspiracy theory. So in the end we, the consumers, are paying ourselves for being profiled, analysed and swindled by targeted commercial 'information'. The only thing I am paying for is my ISP; I use FB as a free resource. I rather suspect, au contraire, I am being swindled by my supplier of electricity and gas. With one or two exceptions, all my FB Friends are actually friends in real life. I don't spend hours on it (except when I forget to log off). I have had the odd useful chat with someone to arrange to meet up or whatever. I sometimes use it a bit like twitter (which I have yet to sign up to) without the 140 char limit, when it amuses me to do so. The most the profilers will get from me is random pictures of cute animals, flowers, or views of Stourhead (ho, dangerously valuable personal info there!), and the odd shared link of topical interest. Strangely, I see no adverts at all for either flowers or cute animals. But, I did close my LinkedIn account, as I really could not see the point of it, for me. YMMV etc. Richard Dobson ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound
Re: [Sursound] Trans-Dimensional Portal
This is funny but it is of course wrong, I like facebook a lot, but I dislike text messages, and so on. Which general types of things one likes may develop early, but the details are not set in stone. This kind of thing is an excuse for all kinds of bad stuff that is supposed to be progress but is really just bad--but not all of it is bad! Robert On Mon, 8 Oct 2012, Martin Leese wrote: John Leonard wrote: Hmm, I'm strictly non-Facebook and I'm afraid I'm not going to change my views, even for Ambisonics. Ditto. In my case, the reason was elegantly explained by Douglas Adams: I've [Douglas Adams has] come up with a set of rules that describe our reactions to technology: 1. Anything that is in the world when you're born is normal and ordinary and is just a natural part of the way the world works. 2. Anything that's invented between when you're fifteen and thirty-five is new and exciting and revolutionary and you can probably get a career in it. 3. Anything invented after you're thirty-five is against the natural order of things. [From The Salmon of Doubt by Douglas Adams, 2002] Regards, Martin -- Martin J Leese E-mail: martin.leese stanfordalumni.org Web: http://members.tripod.com/martin_leese/ ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound
Re: [Sursound] Trans-Dimensional Portal
so ... what's all this about a portal ? On 9 October 2012 01:24, Robert Greene gre...@math.ucla.edu wrote: This is funny but it is of course wrong, I like facebook a lot, but I dislike text messages, and so on. Which general types of things one likes may develop early, but the details are not set in stone. This kind of thing is an excuse for all kinds of bad stuff that is supposed to be progress but is really just bad--but not all of it is bad! Robert On Mon, 8 Oct 2012, Martin Leese wrote: John Leonard wrote: Hmm, I'm strictly non-Facebook and I'm afraid I'm not going to change my views, even for Ambisonics. Ditto. In my case, the reason was elegantly explained by Douglas Adams: I've [Douglas Adams has] come up with a set of rules that describe our reactions to technology: 1. Anything that is in the world when you're born is normal and ordinary and is just a natural part of the way the world works. 2. Anything that's invented between when you're fifteen and thirty-five is new and exciting and revolutionary and you can probably get a career in it. 3. Anything invented after you're thirty-five is against the natural order of things. [From The Salmon of Doubt by Douglas Adams, 2002] Regards, Martin -- Martin J Leese E-mail: martin.leese stanfordalumni.org Web: http://members.tripod.com/**martin_leese/http://members.tripod.com/martin_leese/ __**_ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/**mailman/listinfo/sursoundhttps://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound __**_ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/**mailman/listinfo/sursoundhttps://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound -- 07580951119 augustine.leudar.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/attachments/20121009/bfa5e6f6/attachment.html ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound
Re: [Sursound] [OT] FB etc. (was: Re: Trans-Dimensional Portal)
Very much off topic is what follows. Just as a point of information, I think Hitler's election did not depend on fraud. I think he actually did have a lot of popular support at one point . Why is a complex question, but I believe he did, though of course he was not above fraud if fraud was needed. As to the privacy issues, I agree. Big trouble And it is quite true that the search engines, for all their remarkable power, do not promote in -depth study of things or issues. Too much piffle comes up too easily--if commercial interests are invovled But sometimes things work if there is no commercial component. Search for my beloved (late) dog Freja Greene on google and there she is, right up top! Even her picture shows up! I did not do this on purpose, choose an unusual name. I named her Freja (which is a common Danish name, but is seldom combined with Greene!) because I got her for my late first wife, who was Danish, and wanted to name her something Danish and at the same time something Wagnerian--her sisters were named Sieglinde and Brunhilde . The point here is not personal anecdote but that the corruption of the search engines is attached to the commercial world. When one gets to something outside the commercial realm things work quite well. In the same way if you search for complex domains , my book with Kim and Krantz on the subject also pops right up. Because there is NO MONEY attached! (or only a pittance!). What has happened is not I think political corruption(yet) but just commercial promotion. It tends to creep in everywhere and it drowns other things-- when there is a simultaneous occurence of the commercial and noncommercial. Robert On Mon, 8 Oct 2012, Ronald C.F. Antony wrote: The problem with Google, FB, and to a degree Apple is not the advertising or lack of utility of the gadgets. Nobody is forced to buy anything. The problem is, that on the one hand we have a push to the cloud which only exists because ISPs and content providers have essentially successfully stalled a timely transition to IPv6, which made the disaster called NAT so prevalent, that nobody can run their own services, the way the internet was designed to work. You shouldn't need Google drive you should be able to access your own drive no matter where on the globe you are. The second problem is, that the increasing commercialization of search results makes these results increasingly meaningless. If I e.g. try to find properties of insulating glass, and all I get are links to replacement window makers, then that defeats the purpose of my search, because I want to learn about glass, so I can make an educated decision about what windows to buy, if I want to read window manufacturer's propaganda, I can just call them. The third, and biggest problem is, that while people were up in arms over intrusive government programs that went under the names of Echelon, Top Sail, TIA and other known and unknown acromyms, we now give private corporation that sort of total access to our private information that we wouldn't trust the government with. And not only can thanks to the deceptively named Patriot Act the government access all that information with little to no judicial oversight, the private companies can mine the data for whatever reason they see fit. The situation is so bad, that one has to wonder if some of that massive infrastructure these private companies built up wasn't ultimately funded by the black budget to bypass the government data gathering restrictions by allowing private companies to succeed where the government wasn't allowed to go. Whether you know it or not, you're naked already, and that's the scandal nobody wants to face. The idea, that I have nothing to hide is a stupid one. Everyone has everything to hide, the moment government goes bad. And government always goes bad, given enough time and opportunity. So you don't make laws for the government you do have, you make laws for the bad government you might have at some point in the future, because no matter how ethical and well-intentioned government may be today, that doesn't mean that tomorrow it's very different. German laws didn't exactly have Hitler in mind when they were written, but flaws in election laws, etc. did allow for something like Hitler to happen. It's the long-term perspective and what happens with our ability to maintain privacy that's deeply troubling about all these services that syphon every last bit of information out of you, directly or indirectly, e.g. with such harmless buttons as these ubiquitous like buttons, that keep track of what web sites you visit, not just which ones you like, because each of these buttons calls FB API, and allows FB cookies to track you wherever you go. A nice little video on the subject: http://wimp.com/mindreader/ Ronald On 8 Oct 2012, at 20:24, Robert Greene gre...@math.ucla.edu wrote: This is funny but it is of course wrong, I like facebook a lot, but I
Re: [Sursound] [OT] FB etc. (was: Re: Trans-Dimensional Portal)
At 22:19 08/10/2012, Robert Greene wrote: it is quite true that the search engines, for all their remarkable power, do not promote in -depth study of things or issues. Too much piffle comes up too easily--if commercial interests are invovled I have also found this to be a problem and use, eg, -Amazon.com when searching for pages about works of music. But are all search engines the same where this is concerned? (I only use Google.) David ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound
Re: [Sursound] [OT] FB etc. (was: Re: Trans-Dimensional Portal)
Very much off topic is what follows. Just as a point of information, I think Hitler's election did not depend on fraud. I think he actually did have a lot of popular support at one point . Why is a complex question, but I believe he did, though of course he was not above fraud if fraud was needed. Yes, when my children used to come home from 'ra-ra' civics classes, I used to pose the question: In 1945, of Churchill, Hitler, Stalin and Truman, which were elected as leader in a democratic election? And it is quite true that the search engines, for all their remarkable power, do not promote in -depth study of things or issues. Too much piffle comes up too easily--if commercial interests are invovled Shameless plug : There is something called the WWW Virtual Library that aims to give expert overviews of particular subjects on the Web. (It actually started (by TBL) as a catalogue of the whole Web (e.g. http://www.w3.org/History/19921103-hypertext/hypertext/DataSources/bySubject/Overview.html).) Finding volunteers (and fighting off the commercialisation attempts) is though increasingly difficult ;-( Michael ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound
