Re: [Sursound] WFS systems
and there's a 250-odd channel one here at the Fraunhofer IIS in Erlangen. D. On 22/05/2014, at 2:12 AM, Marc Lavallée wrote: There's a WFS installation at U. of Sherbrooke GAUS research lab, with 96 speakers: http://gaus.recherche.usherbrooke.ca/ http://gaus.recherche.usherbrooke.ca/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/WFS-salle-940x340.jpg -- Marc Le Wed, 21 May 2014 20:21:26 -0300, Augustine Leudar gustar...@gmail.com a écrit : oh and IRCAM - IRCAM have a really good one I hear (and one day hope to actually hear) On 21/05/2014, Augustine Leudar gustar...@gmail.com wrote: P.S. I think Disney world/land have one in the haunted house... On 21/05/2014, Augustine Leudar gustar...@gmail.com wrote: I have on here in Ireland - a humble 32 channel one - though I often put the speakers in many different configurations and it is without a name. Also te University of Salford has a good one as do the guys who make soundscape renderer (I think) On 18/05/2014, Andres Cabrera mantaray...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I'm wondering if anyone has compiled a list of research WFS systems. The TU Berlin and the Game of Life systems come immediately to mind, but before starting to dig, I wanted to know if someone has already done this list. Also of interest could be companies working on commercial WFS systems. Thanks! Andrés -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/attachments/20140518/aede20ba/attachment.html ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound -- 07812675974 -- 07812675974 ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound __ Prof. Dr. David Worrall Emerging Audio Research (EAR) Audio Department International Audio Laboratories Erlangen Fraunhofer-Institut für Integrierte Schaltungen IIS Am Wolfsmantel 33 91058 Erlangen Telefon +49 (0) 91 31 / 7 76-62 77 Fax +49 (0) 91 31 / 7 76-20 99 E-Mail: david.worr...@iis.fraunhofer.de Internet: www.iis.fraunhofer.de Senior Adjunct Research Fellow, Australian National University. david.worr...@anu.edu.au -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/attachments/20140522/9b4d3515/attachment.html ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound
Re: [Sursound] WFS systems
As I understand Aalborg University in Copenhagen (AAU), Denmark, just began making experiments with WFS. I'm not sure how big it is, but they are working with it along with motion tracking for different applications. It seems quite interesting. David Worrall mailto:worr...@avatar.com.au 22 mai 2014 09:58 and there's a 250-odd channel one here at the Fraunhofer IIS in Erlangen. D. __ Prof. Dr. David Worrall Emerging Audio Research (EAR) Audio Department International Audio Laboratories Erlangen Fraunhofer-Institut für Integrierte Schaltungen IIS Am Wolfsmantel 33 91058 Erlangen Telefon +49 (0) 91 31 / 7 76-62 77 Fax +49 (0) 91 31 / 7 76-20 99 E-Mail: david.worr...@iis.fraunhofer.de Internet: www.iis.fraunhofer.de Senior Adjunct Research Fellow, Australian National University. david.worr...@anu.edu.au -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/attachments/20140522/9b4d3515/attachment.html ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound Marc Lavallée mailto:m...@hacklava.net 22 mai 2014 02:12 There's a WFS installation at U. of Sherbrooke GAUS research lab, with 96 speakers: http://gaus.recherche.usherbrooke.ca/ http://gaus.recherche.usherbrooke.ca/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/WFS-salle-940x340.jpg -- Marc Le Wed, 21 May 2014 20:21:26 -0300, ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound Augustine Leudar mailto:gustar...@gmail.com 22 mai 2014 01:21 oh and IRCAM - IRCAM have a really good one I hear (and one day hope to actually hear) Augustine Leudar mailto:gustar...@gmail.com 22 mai 2014 01:14 P.S. I think Disney world/land have one in the haunted house... Augustine Leudar mailto:gustar...@gmail.com 22 mai 2014 01:13 I have on here in Ireland - a humble 32 channel one - though I often put the speakers in many different configurations and it is without a name. Also te University of Salford has a good one as do the guys who make soundscape renderer (I think) -- sound designer soundjuggling.com 06 68 50 95 97 (FR) 00 45 26 84 44 41 (DK) -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/attachments/20140522/50fca33c/attachment.html -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: compose-unknown-contact.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 770 bytes Desc: not available URL: https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/attachments/20140522/50fca33c/attachment.jpg ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound
Re: [Sursound] WFS systems
On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 10:25:58AM +0200, Lasse Munk wrote: As I understand Aalborg University in Copenhagen (AAU), Denmark, just began making experiments with WFS. I'm not sure how big it is, but they are working with it along with motion tracking for different applications. It seems quite interesting. There's a 189 channel system in Parma (Italy), see the third item here: http://kokkinizita.linuxaudio.org/papers/index.html -- FA A world of exhaustive, reliable metadata would be an utopia. It's also a pipe-dream, founded on self-delusion, nerd hubris and hysterically inflated market opportunities. (Cory Doctorow) ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound
Re: [Sursound] WFS systems
I was just about to mention that. Dave P.S. Hope the weather is better there than here at the moment, Fons... On 22 May 2014 10:15, Fons Adriaensen f...@linuxaudio.org wrote: On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 10:25:58AM +0200, Lasse Munk wrote: As I understand Aalborg University in Copenhagen (AAU), Denmark, just began making experiments with WFS. I'm not sure how big it is, but they are working with it along with motion tracking for different applications. It seems quite interesting. There's a 189 channel system in Parma (Italy), see the third item here: http://kokkinizita.linuxaudio.org/papers/index.html -- FA A world of exhaustive, reliable metadata would be an utopia. It's also a pipe-dream, founded on self-delusion, nerd hubris and hysterically inflated market opportunities. (Cory Doctorow) ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound -- As of 1st October 2012, I have retired from the University. These are my own views and may or may not be shared by the University Dave Malham Honorary Fellow, Department of Music The University of York York YO10 5DD UK 'Ambisonics - Component Imaging for Audio' -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/attachments/20140522/793e6347/attachment.html ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound
Re: [Sursound] TetraMic and Jaunt VR in Time, Gizmodo and Engadget (Virtual Reality Recording System)
Did you personally experience it? Can you describe how you felt? I'm really interested in the breathing interface - to me, incorporating breathing is what makes it a great idea. I got interested in it and read part of someone's thesis on it and learned they also did a lot of work at Softimage on making the graphics transparent. Also, it's imbued with really interesting, admirable ideas and concepts ( http://www.immersence.com/publications/char/1998-CD-Virtual_Dimension.html ). On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 7:31 AM, Marc Lavallée m...@hacklava.net wrote: I remember; it was created in 1995, in Montreal. There was a breathing interface (a special vest with sensors), so it was a personal immersive experience: http://www.immersence.com/osmose/ -- Marc Le Mon, 19 May 2014 22:16:45 -0400, Matthew Palmer palme...@mymail.vcu.edu a écrit : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TdsoRpKRPc this was a great idea for virtual reality On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 6:48 AM, Stefan Schreiber st...@mail.telepac.ptwrote: etienne deleflie wrote: In fact, I argue that the composer's attraction to VR (or ambisonics or whatever) is a kind of false route ... where there is the assumption that greater verisimilitude creates greater aesthetic engagement. I suggest that it might be the very opposite ... greater verisimilitude might actually create lesser aesthetic engagement. - Technical machinery doesn't solve aesthetical or artistic problems. - Lesser aesthetic engagement is of course how things should not be! - The idea to use a 360º camera (in all directions) doesn't take away the need to have some film script, artistical concept, good actors etc. before you start to take some shots. Best, Stefan Actually, I think the right way to see it is that composers must engage with the aesthetic idea of verisimilitude ... rather than merely aiming for it. Etienne Everyone is like getting crazy because of the huge quantity of innocuous images running on our minds today. I like the way cinema is, as a collective subjective experience on the same place. I just don´t want our kids to be addicted to isolation depression any more. And don´t tell me it´s about us as parents, because that´s what I´m trying to state here: We just can´t keep exploring or experimenting with our minds to see what happens, just because we want... what?. (you tell me) On 5/17/14, 8:30 PM, Stefan Schreiber wrote: Kan Kaban wrote: On 5/17/14, 7:28 AM, Stefan Schreiber wrote: Kan, that was a private joke, not for the list. And the citing doesn't make any sense if the maybe other two mails are missing on sursound, because I (intentionally) sent these offlist. Sorry, it was a mistake... as VR on cinema. (maybe not for cinema a Hollywood wants it...) It is very improbably that most or even many future films will be produced in 360º form, because you lose fundamental elements like perspective and any viewing selection/direction the director would like to employ.. Film directors wouldn't know exactly what kind of the scene film watchers would chose to see, etc. IMO this is still and everywhere experimental stuff... Nevertheless, it is not up to me or you to decide what kind of concepts film directors should have and which not. You could say they try to cross cinema and VR. This might work or not. What is important is that the artistical result is convincing, not the technique per se. (I am not comfortable to judge anything I didn't see or experience myself. So I am kind of sceptical, but still open to change my mind. On the other hand I won't tell anybody that VR movies are supposed to be the next big thing if not a single movie exists. Fair enough...) Best, Stefan ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/attachments/20140522/157bf5f1/attachment.html ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound
Re: [Sursound] WFS systems
Hi, we installed some commercial WFS systems with reduced number of loudspeakers. it is not really WFS but a good compromise. We call this Spatial sound wave. Systems like this are used in Planetarium Hamburg and Jena. Next in september the Mediendome Kiel will get a system. See here http://www.idmt.fraunhofer.de/en/Service_Offerings/products_and_technologies/q_t/spatialsound_wave.html. The system is also available as commecial product by Shure Germany named Athmosphea http://www.atmosphea.de/ greetings Rene On 22.05.2014 01:13, Augustine Leudar wrote: I have on here in Ireland - a humble 32 channel one - though I often put the speakers in many different configurations and it is without a name. Also te University of Salford has a good one as do the guys who make soundscape renderer (I think) On 18/05/2014, Andres Cabrera mantaray...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I'm wondering if anyone has compiled a list of research WFS systems. The TU Berlin and the Game of Life systems come immediately to mind, but before starting to dig, I wanted to know if someone has already done this list. Also of interest could be companies working on commercial WFS systems. Thanks! Andrés -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/attachments/20140518/aede20ba/attachment.html ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound -- Dipl. Ing. Rene Rodigast Head of Professional Audio Dept. Acoustics Fraunhofer-Institut Digitale Medientechnologie Ehrenbergstrasse 31 98693 Ilmenau Germany Phone: +49-3677-467-390 Fax: +49-3677-467-467 r...@idmt.fraunhofer.de www.idmt.fraunhofer.de ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound
