Re: [Sursound] Hardest wearing outdoor speakers
> Behringer ms10s that withstood months of tropical storms in the Amazon - so Have you got that model number right? I still think the cheapo solution is the way to go .. but it would be good to know what has worked for you .. even if it isn't 35 yrs. I get MS20 and loads of other stuff but not MS10 or MS10s And what is an Extreme 5 ? ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscribe here, edit account or options, view archives and so on.
Re: [Sursound] Hardest wearing outdoor speakers
Tx Drew will be in touch On Friday, 25 January 2019, Drew Kirkland wrote: > We are a UK installation and design company with close links to the F1 > network. I'm sure we could find you reasonably local tech support. > > Drew > > > > > > > > Drew Kirkland > 1 campbleton cottage > Hunterston Estate > KA23 9QF > > 07876238608 > > On Thu, 24 Jan 2019, 20:56 Augustine Leudar wrote: > > > Hi Fons, > > All of the people I have approached so far have been professionals (so > far > > Meyer, Martin audio and Bose) - if you know of any company that would > > deliver a maintenance package covering all technical infrastructure for > 35 > > years (speakers, cabling, 8 channel player) then please point me in their > > direction. Ideally a company would take care of that side and be > > responsible so I could focus on content, I really dont want to be > > responsible for that side of things - however for any budget 35 years is > a > > big commitment to make - possibly an unrealistic one. Ive a lot of > > experience with creepy crawlys and speakers as a lot of the stuff I do > is > > outdoors and has included one at research station in virgin rainforest > in > > Ecuador - the Eden project in particular had a particularly robust ant > > that ate through even the toughest of 16 amp cabling - used to send the > > technicians up the wall. Eden bought dozens of really hi-end weatherproof > > speakers, they lasted a year an a half. conversely I've seen some > > Behringer ms10s that withstood months of tropical storms in the Amazon - > so > > price doesn't always reflect durability either . In this case though its > > temperate climate and there is budget which any company can contact me > > about via PM. > > > > On Thu, 24 Jan 2019 at 19:49, Fons Adriaensen > wrote: > > > > > On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 10:41:13AM +, Augustine Leudar wrote: > > > > > > > If you needed speakers for a permanent outdoor installation with > > speakers > > > > than need to last decades - does such a thing exist ? Any > > > recommendations ? > > > > What about media players ? > > > > > > If things have to last outdoors for longer than a year, I'd say to > > consult > > > some professionals for this. If after two winters the cables used to > > > connect > > > your speakers disintegrate, or if the speakers start to fall down > because > > > the screws used to attach them are corroded, it doesn't matter much > which > > > speakers you use. Also don't underestimate the power of small species > > with > > > 6 or 8 legs to invade your equipment and turn it into their cosy home. > > > > > > Cheap solutions won't last for something like this. > > > > > > -- > > > FA > > > > > > ___ > > > Sursound mailing list > > > Sursound@music.vt.edu > > > https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscribe > here, > > > edit account or options, view archives and so on. > > > > > > > > > -- > > Dr. Augustine Leudar > > Artistic Director Magik Door LTD > > Company Number : NI635217 > > Registered 63 Ballycoan rd, > > Belfast BT88LL > > www.magikdoor.net > > +44(0)7555784775 > > -- next part -- > > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > > URL: < > > https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/ > attachments/20190124/43580624/attachment.html > > > > > ___ > > Sursound mailing list > > Sursound@music.vt.edu > > https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscribe here, > > edit account or options, view archives and so on. > > > -- next part -- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: <https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/ > attachments/20190125/f731b0fe/attachment.html> > ___ > Sursound mailing list > Sursound@music.vt.edu > https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscribe here, > edit account or options, view archives and so on. > -- Dr. Augustine Leudar Artistic Director Magik Door LTD Company Number : NI635217 Registered 63 Ballycoan rd, Belfast BT88LL www.magikdoor.net +44(0)7555784775 -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/attachments/20190125/bb738788/attachment.html> ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscribe here, edit account or options, view archives and so on.
Re: [Sursound] Hardest wearing outdoor speakers
We are a UK installation and design company with close links to the F1 network. I'm sure we could find you reasonably local tech support. Drew Drew Kirkland 1 campbleton cottage Hunterston Estate KA23 9QF 07876238608 On Thu, 24 Jan 2019, 20:56 Augustine Leudar Hi Fons, > All of the people I have approached so far have been professionals (so far > Meyer, Martin audio and Bose) - if you know of any company that would > deliver a maintenance package covering all technical infrastructure for 35 > years (speakers, cabling, 8 channel player) then please point me in their > direction. Ideally a company would take care of that side and be > responsible so I could focus on content, I really dont want to be > responsible for that side of things - however for any budget 35 years is a > big commitment to make - possibly an unrealistic one. Ive a lot of > experience with creepy crawlys and speakers as a lot of the stuff I do is > outdoors and has included one at research station in virgin rainforest in > Ecuador - the Eden project in particular had a particularly robust ant > that ate through even the toughest of 16 amp cabling - used to send the > technicians up the wall. Eden bought dozens of really hi-end weatherproof > speakers, they lasted a year an a half. conversely I've seen some > Behringer ms10s that withstood months of tropical storms in the Amazon - so > price doesn't always reflect durability either . In this case though its > temperate climate and there is budget which any company can contact me > about via PM. > > On Thu, 24 Jan 2019 at 19:49, Fons Adriaensen wrote: > > > On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 10:41:13AM +, Augustine Leudar wrote: > > > > > If you needed speakers for a permanent outdoor installation with > speakers > > > than need to last decades - does such a thing exist ? Any > > recommendations ? > > > What about media players ? > > > > If things have to last outdoors for longer than a year, I'd say to > consult > > some professionals for this. If after two winters the cables used to > > connect > > your speakers disintegrate, or if the speakers start to fall down because > > the screws used to attach them are corroded, it doesn't matter much which > > speakers you use. Also don't underestimate the power of small species > with > > 6 or 8 legs to invade your equipment and turn it into their cosy home. > > > > Cheap solutions won't last for something like this. > > > > -- > > FA > > > > ___ > > Sursound mailing list > > Sursound@music.vt.edu > > https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscribe here, > > edit account or options, view archives and so on. > > > > > -- > Dr. Augustine Leudar > Artistic Director Magik Door LTD > Company Number : NI635217 > Registered 63 Ballycoan rd, > Belfast BT88LL > www.magikdoor.net > +44(0)7555784775 > -- next part -- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/attachments/20190124/43580624/attachment.html > > > ___ > Sursound mailing list > Sursound@music.vt.edu > https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscribe here, > edit account or options, view archives and so on. > -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/attachments/20190125/f731b0fe/attachment.html> ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscribe here, edit account or options, view archives and so on.
Re: [Sursound] Hardest wearing outdoor speakers
And yes I've thought the cheap and easy to replace route is a good one. Extreme 5 s are cheapish sound fine even have speakers. However this still requires someone to guarantee they can replace them for a long period On Friday, 25 January 2019, Augustine Leudar wrote: > *35 not 5. Even I'm not that pessimistic. > > On Friday, 25 January 2019, Augustine Leudar > wrote: > >> It was a typo. Should have said can't. TBH I can't see how any company >> can guarantee they would still be around in 5 years . In fact we can't even >> guarantee our civilisation will be. Still. >> >> On Friday, 25 January 2019, Richard Lee wrote: >> >>> > If you needed speakers for a permanent outdoor installation with >>> speakers >>> than need to last decades - does such a thing exist ? >>> >>> > However here the real issue is who will provide a maintenance >>> package/guarantee for 35 years ? >>> >>> If you want to keep the same speakers for 35 yrs, your maintenance >>> company >>> better get in a COMPLETE replacement system (including a full set of >>> speakers) as spares. >>> >>> We used to pride ourselves on providing better & longer service spares >>> than >>> anyone else in the business but even we drew the line at 20 yrs. Older >>> than that, we would try to replace and/or repair with a near equivalent. >>> >>> Service Dept. used to see us at R for advice and I learnt a lot about >>> arcane glues & paints for sealing Super 8RSDD cloth surrounds. >>> >>> And you'd better make sure your maintenance company will still be in >>> business in 35 yrs. >>> >>> > I can think of one. >>> >>> Who were you thinking of? >>> >>> >>> Having said that, modern speakers don't usually go wrong if used within >>> >>> their limits but you need to cater for the odd boot and of course floods >>> & >>> cyclones for your outdoor application. >>> __ >>> >>> I would go with 'outdoor' speakers for use on small boats. They do go >>> wrong but are cheap to replace with something 'similar'. Plastic cones >>> best and no fancy stuff like tweeters. >>> ___ >>> Sursound mailing list >>> Sursound@music.vt.edu >>> https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscribe here, >>> edit account or options, view archives and so on. >>> >> >> >> -- >> Dr. Augustine Leudar >> Artistic Director Magik Door LTD >> Company Number : NI635217 >> Registered 63 Ballycoan rd, >> Belfast BT88LL >> www.magikdoor.net >> +44(0)7555784775 >> >> >> > > -- > Dr. Augustine Leudar > Artistic Director Magik Door LTD > Company Number : NI635217 > Registered 63 Ballycoan rd, > Belfast BT88LL > www.magikdoor.net > +44(0)7555784775 > > > -- Dr. Augustine Leudar Artistic Director Magik Door LTD Company Number : NI635217 Registered 63 Ballycoan rd, Belfast BT88LL www.magikdoor.net +44(0)7555784775 -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/attachments/20190125/a2a24599/attachment.html> ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscribe here, edit account or options, view archives and so on.
Re: [Sursound] Hardest wearing outdoor speakers
*35 not 5. Even I'm not that pessimistic. On Friday, 25 January 2019, Augustine Leudar wrote: > It was a typo. Should have said can't. TBH I can't see how any company can > guarantee they would still be around in 5 years . In fact we can't even > guarantee our civilisation will be. Still. > > On Friday, 25 January 2019, Richard Lee wrote: > >> > If you needed speakers for a permanent outdoor installation with >> speakers >> than need to last decades - does such a thing exist ? >> >> > However here the real issue is who will provide a maintenance >> package/guarantee for 35 years ? >> >> If you want to keep the same speakers for 35 yrs, your maintenance >> company >> better get in a COMPLETE replacement system (including a full set of >> speakers) as spares. >> >> We used to pride ourselves on providing better & longer service spares >> than >> anyone else in the business but even we drew the line at 20 yrs. Older >> than that, we would try to replace and/or repair with a near equivalent. >> >> Service Dept. used to see us at R for advice and I learnt a lot about >> arcane glues & paints for sealing Super 8RSDD cloth surrounds. >> >> And you'd better make sure your maintenance company will still be in >> business in 35 yrs. >> >> > I can think of one. >> >> Who were you thinking of? >> >> >> Having said that, modern speakers don't usually go wrong if used within >> their limits but you need to cater for the odd boot and of course floods >> & >> cyclones for your outdoor application. >> __ >> >> I would go with 'outdoor' speakers for use on small boats. They do go >> wrong but are cheap to replace with something 'similar'. Plastic cones >> best and no fancy stuff like tweeters. >> ___ >> Sursound mailing list >> Sursound@music.vt.edu >> https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscribe here, >> edit account or options, view archives and so on. >> > > > -- > Dr. Augustine Leudar > Artistic Director Magik Door LTD > Company Number : NI635217 > Registered 63 Ballycoan rd, > Belfast BT88LL > www.magikdoor.net > +44(0)7555784775 > > > -- Dr. Augustine Leudar Artistic Director Magik Door LTD Company Number : NI635217 Registered 63 Ballycoan rd, Belfast BT88LL www.magikdoor.net +44(0)7555784775 -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/attachments/20190125/06b81a3a/attachment.html> ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscribe here, edit account or options, view archives and so on.
Re: [Sursound] Hardest wearing outdoor speakers
It was a typo. Should have said can't. TBH I can't see how any company can guarantee they would still be around in 5 years . In fact we can't even guarantee our civilisation will be. Still. On Friday, 25 January 2019, Richard Lee wrote: > > If you needed speakers for a permanent outdoor installation with speakers > than need to last decades - does such a thing exist ? > > > However here the real issue is who will provide a maintenance > package/guarantee for 35 years ? > > If you want to keep the same speakers for 35 yrs, your maintenance company > better get in a COMPLETE replacement system (including a full set of > speakers) as spares. > > We used to pride ourselves on providing better & longer service spares > than > anyone else in the business but even we drew the line at 20 yrs. Older > than that, we would try to replace and/or repair with a near equivalent. > > Service Dept. used to see us at R for advice and I learnt a lot about > arcane glues & paints for sealing Super 8RSDD cloth surrounds. > > And you'd better make sure your maintenance company will still be in > business in 35 yrs. > > > I can think of one. > > Who were you thinking of? > > > Having said that, modern speakers don't usually go wrong if used within > their limits but you need to cater for the odd boot and of course floods & > cyclones for your outdoor application. > __ > > I would go with 'outdoor' speakers for use on small boats. They do go > wrong but are cheap to replace with something 'similar'. Plastic cones > best and no fancy stuff like tweeters. > ___ > Sursound mailing list > Sursound@music.vt.edu > https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscribe here, > edit account or options, view archives and so on. > -- Dr. Augustine Leudar Artistic Director Magik Door LTD Company Number : NI635217 Registered 63 Ballycoan rd, Belfast BT88LL www.magikdoor.net +44(0)7555784775 -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/attachments/20190125/fab85933/attachment.html> ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscribe here, edit account or options, view archives and so on.
