Re: [Sursound] Analogue 3D / surround sound panners?
Poop on poop people. Just do it nicely ok? On Sat, Feb 15, 2020, 4:51 AM Marc Lavallée wrote: > Le 20-02-15 à 07 h 36, Augustine Leudar a écrit : > > > What was/is around in terms of analogue physical 3D or horizontal only > > panners? I've seen the little joystick things on desks. Was wondering > what > > else? > > Do you mean panners using analog electronics and physical controls to > pan the sound through analog only electronics (without any computing > involved), > > or physical controllers as input devices for digital sound panners? For > interactive installations, I built/used/seen: > > - big trackballs (like those in vintage video games) > > - long levers (like giant joysticks) > > - cameras, presence detectors, touch screens... > > Basically, any controller can be used. > > Marc > > > ___ > Sursound mailing list > Sursound@music.vt.edu > https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscribe here, > edit account or options, view archives and so on. > -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/attachments/20200217/1ca1aef4/attachment.html> ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscribe here, edit account or options, view archives and so on.
Re: [Sursound] analog planner
Somewhere I have MAG's original handwritten reports for the NRDC on (analog) soundfield controls, etc. I will see if I can find them tomorrow and post them. Might be of help to someone. Dave On Mon, 17 Feb 2020 at 14:27, Eero Aro wrote: > Oh what the h**k, I cannot find the schematics from Motherlode. > > Here you are: > > https://www.dropbox.com/sh/u4erj032gxafsd5/AAAEdeRr-FVm9YOK13OwtN2Ra?dl=0 > > Eero > ___ > Sursound mailing list > Sursound@music.vt.edu > https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscribe here, > edit account or options, view archives and so on. > -- As of 1st October 2012, I have retired from the University. These are my own views and may or may not be shared by the University Dave Malham Honorary Fellow, Department of Music The University of York York YO10 5DD UK 'Ambisonics - Component Imaging for Audio' -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/attachments/20200217/da5db355/attachment.html> ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscribe here, edit account or options, view archives and so on.
Re: [Sursound] analog planner
Tx Eero On Monday, 17 February 2020, Eero Aro wrote: > And sorry, no parts list for the Pan/Rotate unit. > > Eero > ___ > Sursound mailing list > Sursound@music.vt.edu > https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscribe here, > edit account or options, view archives and so on. > -- Artist website: www.augustineleudar.com Business website: www.magikdoor.net +44(0)7555784775 -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/attachments/20200217/8829d2c1/attachment.html> ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscribe here, edit account or options, view archives and so on.
Re: [Sursound] analog planner
And sorry, no parts list for the Pan/Rotate unit. Eero ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscribe here, edit account or options, view archives and so on.
Re: [Sursound] analog planner
Oh what the h**k, I cannot find the schematics from Motherlode. Here you are: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/u4erj032gxafsd5/AAAEdeRr-FVm9YOK13OwtN2Ra?dl=0 Eero ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscribe here, edit account or options, view archives and so on.
Re: [Sursound] analog planner
Finally, a Transcoder unit generating 2-channel UHJ only could be fed with stereo signals for front and rear stages with a stage width control on each. The Transcoder also has an B-Format input in an 5-pin XLR connector. Eero ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscribe here, edit account or options, view archives and so on.
Re: [Sursound] analog planner
The schematics are in the Ambisonic Motherlode: http://decoy.iki.fi/dsound/ambisonic/motherlode/ Somewhere in there.. Eero Richard Elen kirjoitti 17.2.2020 klo 11:57: The Audio & Design Recording boxes that Geoff Barton designed were intended as (analogue) outboard units that could be patched into a conventional mixing console to generate (mainly) first-order (all there was) Ambisonic B-Format. The Pan-Rotate unit included eight 360-degree controls, each with a radius vector (distance from centre) control with a switched position for maximum radius vector. In addition there was a B-Format Converter which allowed console panpots to be used to pan across a quadrant, using four groups and an aux send. Finally, a Transcoder unit generating 2-channel UHJ only could be fed with stereo signals for front and rear stages with a stage width control on each. The units are described in these articles: http://ambisonic.net/branwell_arb.html http://ambisonic.net/ambimix.html I'm afraid I don't have circuit diagrams but Geoff presumably has. --R ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscribe here, edit account or options, view archives and so on.
Re: [Sursound] analog planner
The Audio & Design Recording boxes that Geoff Barton designed were intended as (analogue) outboard units that could be patched into a conventional mixing console to generate (mainly) first-order (all there was) Ambisonic B-Format. The Pan-Rotate unit included eight 360-degree controls, each with a radius vector (distance from centre) control with a switched position for maximum radius vector. In addition there was a B-Format Converter which allowed console panpots to be used to pan across a quadrant, using four groups and an aux send. Finally, a Transcoder unit generating 2-channel UHJ only could be fed with stereo signals for front and rear stages with a stage width control on each. The units are described in these articles: http://ambisonic.net/branwell_arb.html http://ambisonic.net/ambimix.html I'm afraid I don't have circuit diagrams but Geoff presumably has. --R On 16-Feb-20 15:18, Peter Carbines wrote: On 16/02/2020 12:19, Augustine Leudar wrote: I'm mainly interested in purely analog devices in this thread The small team I was involved in during the 1970s built a 4-input proof-of-concept Ambisonic mixer. We were interested in developing a mixer to produce B-format from multitrack recordings, creating an artificial soundfield. It had 360-degree panning ability and radius-vector control on each. Two input channels used sine-cosine 360 degree potentiometers derived from scrapped electronics, probably radar consoles. Because we were unfunded and basically running on 'pocket money', the budget didn't allow for 4 sine-cosine pots so we designed and built two switchable pan-pots, initially 30-degree but planned for an eventual 15 degrees. ... ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscribe here, edit account or options, view archives and so on.
