On 2023-03-10, Eero Aro wrote:

The hum can be heard as a horizontal noise somewhere in the distance.

Now this is rather interesting. "The hum?" Tell me more, what is this "hum" all about?

I didn't mean "The Hum". I meant the noise that comes from the engines, motors and tyres of the vechicles and from the ventilation and air conditioning fans of the buildings.

That's really, *truly* difficult to deal with. Filter out. Because we don't have an overarching mathematical theory of such mixed noises.

It's also a mixed bag. We do have an extended theory of how to deal with that in case it happens to mix to something like Gaussian noise, or the its extension towards stochastic processes of the same kind.

But then it often does not. Impulse noise is a particular problem, especially in the radio bands I'm trying to learn about, year on end. The statistics, both in time and over frequency, any transform domain known, on that sort of thing, are just horrible. Nobody really has a coherent theory on which to work with, there.

Let's not go to the Hum. please.

Let's not. Just saying, the whole idea of "The Global Hum" really just comes from our lack of understanding of how to understand wave mechanics. More in radio than audio, but still in both. (And then fuck the dynamics of plasma in the near-earth conditions. Or stellar winds. Solar coronal heating after a sunspot. That shit is just *wild*, and *wildly* under-/misunderstood. Just, no, I don't get it what it does to my audio setup, and nobody else does either.)


Sounds pretty much like what our tyres here in Finland do, in noise.

Sampo, I am in Finland, not far from you.

Yet do you understand how tires fold into the discussion. Because they do. They do *all* sort of nonlinear, resonant things. And so does the road. Especially our winter tires do, at the higher frequencies.

Did you know they nowadays build the studs in our winter tires and their toroidally varying tension *by design* in a pattern which evokes multiple nonharmonically related, complex vibration modes over the tire? In order to drive off water, and regain traction.

This is actually a thing. Your tires are manufactured to do internal acoustics.

Well, the distant traffic noise comes from the tyres pressing against asphalt, partly or totally covered with ice. On snow, that noise is pretty quiet.

It actually is not, because snow crystals being crushed down at speed is kind of loud. Part of the reason we salt the road is also about taking down the loudness.

Obviously, there's a lot more to be reckoned with here. Say, skidding on an icy road. You might think it's just a one time thing. But on a busy highway, this too happens at about ten second intervals per kilometre, the sound power put out is extremely high, and averaged over a stretch of a usually rather straight section of a highway, the scaling law of how this all radiates outwards tends to go a bit down. It slowly starts to go towards coherence, so that it radiates further, more efficiently.
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