Re: [Sursound] Ambisonic UHJ Discography Web Site is Down

[Mark Anderson]

Yes, I have everything, probably just need to clean out some old files and
picture images and then of course change URL links in the files. I am
checking out a domain name now and surprised how much has changed since I
last looked. Thanks for the offer I really appreciate the help. I will keep
you posted.

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On 08/12/2011 02:25, Mark Anderson wrote:
> Always nice to hear from you. Thanks so much for the offer but I am really
> looking to keep the site as a whole since it offers more than my just my
> interest in ambi but also helps collectors of surround recordings with the
> research I have done. I certainly understand the separation as we do not
> need the dolby name contaminating such a fine site as ambisonic.net

Hi, Mark...

Well, I certainly understand the desire to keep it all together. So if 
you can't find a better way of doing it, I'll be happy to host the whole 
thing. Do the files exist?

Best,
--R

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Re: [Sursound] Ambisonic UHJ Discography Web Site is Down

[Richard Elen]

On 08/12/2011 02:25, Mark Anderson wrote:

Always nice to hear from you. Thanks so much for the offer but I am really
looking to keep the site as a whole since it offers more than my just my
interest in ambi but also helps collectors of surround recordings with the
research I have done. I certainly understand the separation as we do not
need the dolby name contaminating such a fine site as ambisonic.net


Hi, Mark...

Well, I certainly understand the desire to keep it all together. So if 
you can't find a better way of doing it, I'll be happy to host the whole 
thing. Do the files exist?


Best,
--R

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Re: [Sursound] Ambisonic UHJ Discography Web Site is Down

[seva]

just imagine WWMAGD






At 19:38 -0700 12/7/11, Mark Anderson wrote:

OMG I have started a format war!
I am still hurting after investing so much in DVD-Audio and SACD. Now it's
Bluray and don't let us forget all the matrix formats (Software & Hardware)
I have bought.
Thanks to both of you for your interest in surround, although I might have
just discovered new conversation not to start at a gathering like politics,
sex & religion ;-)

Cheers to everyone for the interest in music surround


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From: sursound-boun...@music.vt.edu [mailto:sursound-boun...@music.vt.edu]
On Behalf Of Richard
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 2:07 PM
To: Surround Sound discussion group
Subject: Re: [Sursound] Ambisonic UHJ Discography Web Site is Down

True, and your attitude is what's wrong with this world nowadays. it's
"let's not help anyone out, it doesn't suit me"

You know what, i think i'll start taking that attitude from this very minute

Thank you for waking me up
  I'd also note that it's entirely up to me what content I regard as
  appropriate or otherwise for my sites.

  Best,
  --Richard E

  On 07/12/2011 12:47, Richard wrote:
  > I'll just say, I totally disagree with what you've just said. Quad and
Ambisonics are members of the same, much maligned, family, and to disregard
one of member is not right
  >
  >
  >I'd be happy to host the Ambisonic Discography on ambisonic.net if
that
  >would help. Obviously the other areas wouldn't be appropriate so if
you
  >want to keep them together that wouldn't be too helpful.


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Re: [Sursound] Ambisonic UHJ Discography Web Site is Down

[Mark Anderson]

OMG I have started a format war! 
I am still hurting after investing so much in DVD-Audio and SACD. Now it's
Bluray and don't let us forget all the matrix formats (Software & Hardware)
I have bought. 
Thanks to both of you for your interest in surround, although I might have
just discovered new conversation not to start at a gathering like politics,
sex & religion ;-)

Cheers to everyone for the interest in music surround 


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On Behalf Of Richard
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 2:07 PM
To: Surround Sound discussion group
Subject: Re: [Sursound] Ambisonic UHJ Discography Web Site is Down

True, and your attitude is what's wrong with this world nowadays. it's
"let's not help anyone out, it doesn't suit me"

You know what, i think i'll start taking that attitude from this very minute

Thank you for waking me up 
  I'd also note that it's entirely up to me what content I regard as 
  appropriate or otherwise for my sites.

  Best,
  --Richard E

  On 07/12/2011 12:47, Richard wrote:
  > I'll just say, I totally disagree with what you've just said. Quad and
Ambisonics are members of the same, much maligned, family, and to disregard
one of member is not right
  >
  >
  >I'd be happy to host the Ambisonic Discography on ambisonic.net if
that
  >would help. Obviously the other areas wouldn't be appropriate so if
you
  >want to keep them together that wouldn't be too helpful.


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Re: [Sursound] Ambisonic UHJ Discography Web Site is Down

[Mark Anderson]

Thanks for the tip Martin, I have always appreciated your help and
dedication to the format

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On Behalf Of Martin Leese
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 11:40 AM
To: sursound@music.vt.edu
Subject: Re: [Sursound] Ambisonic UHJ Discography Web Site is Down

"Mark Anderson"  wrote:
>
> As of today, my internet provider has eliminated providing personnel web
> pages to customers.
>
> This means the Surround Sound Discography and its counterparts like the
> Quadraphonic, Ambisonic, Circle Surround & Dolby Discography's are
currently
> not on the internet.
...
> I will post an update when one is available and any suggestions are
> appreciated.

Hi Mark,

I have used for many years the free Web
hosting company Tripod.com.  Unlike other
such companies, Tripod seems to stick around.
The disadvantage is that your readers have to
put up with silly banner adverts.  (You can
eliminate these if you pay them money each
month.)

If you choose to go this route them e-mail me
before choosing your Tripod Username.
There are DNS rules to look out for; I broke
these, and have regretted it ever since.

Regards,
Martin
-- 
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E-mail: martin.leese  stanfordalumni.org
Web: http://members.tripod.com/martin_leese/
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Re: [Sursound] Ambisonic UHJ Discography Web Site is Down

[Mark Anderson]

Hi Richard,

Always nice to hear from you. Thanks so much for the offer but I am really
looking to keep the site as a whole since it offers more than my just my
interest in ambi but also helps collectors of surround recordings with the
research I have done. I certainly understand the separation as we do not
need the dolby name contaminating such a fine site as ambinsoic.net

I was really devastated when I found out it was down after all the years.
The last time I checked (years ago) domain names cost a lot and paying for
web space just does not make a lot of since for something I do for free to
help others find ambisonic (or surround) recordings. I am currently getting
up to speed on my options in this day of age (domain names are cheap) and
will let you know what I need to do. Fortunately Martin's website still
hosts a text version of the discography (need to check though since my site
has been stable since '94). Thanks for responding so quickly, I appreciate
the offer as it was like losing a loved one.

Mark
520-887-3056 5-9pm MST
surro...@cox.net

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From: sursound-boun...@music.vt.edu [mailto:sursound-boun...@music.vt.edu]
On Behalf Of Richard G Elen
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 5:16 AM
To: Surround Sound discussion group
Subject: Re: [Sursound] Ambisonic UHJ Discography Web Site is Down

I'd be happy to host the Ambisonic Discography on ambisonic.net if that 
would help. Obviously the other areas wouldn't be appropriate so if you 
want to keep them together that wouldn't be too helpful.

--Richard E

On 07/12/2011 00:42, Mark Anderson wrote:
> As of today, my internet provider has eliminated providing personnel web
> pages to customers.
>
> This means the Surround Sound Discography and its counterparts like the
> Quadraphonic, Ambisonic, Circle Surround&  Dolby Discography's are
currently
> not on the internet.


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Re: [Sursound] Ambisonic UHJ Discography Web Site is Down

[Ronald C.F. Antony]

On 7 Dec 2011, at 16:07, Richard wrote:

> True, and your attitude is what's wrong with this world nowadays. it's "let's 
> not help anyone out, it doesn't suit me"

I think you're misreading each other here.

The point is, to find information more easily, you want to be on topic.

This list is about surround sound in general, his site is specific for a 
particular subset.

So it makes it more difficult to find things about Ambisonics if a variety of 
non-ambisonic items are mixed in.

It's about maintaining a low signal to noise ratio, not about arbitrary 
decisions or selfish behavior.

Part of what's wrong with the world is that people are so quick to take offense 
;)

Ronald
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[Richard]

True, and your attitude is what's wrong with this world nowadays. it's "let's 
not help anyone out, it doesn't suit me"

You know what, i think i'll start taking that attitude from this very minute

Thank you for waking me up 
  I'd also note that it's entirely up to me what content I regard as 
  appropriate or otherwise for my sites.

  Best,
  --Richard E

  On 07/12/2011 12:47, Richard wrote:
  > I'll just say, I totally disagree with what you've just said. Quad and 
Ambisonics are members of the same, much maligned, family, and to disregard one 
of member is not right
  >
  >
  >I'd be happy to host the Ambisonic Discography on ambisonic.net if that
  >would help. Obviously the other areas wouldn't be appropriate so if you
  >want to keep them together that wouldn't be too helpful.


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Re: [Sursound] Ambisonic UHJ Discography Web Site is Down

[Richard G Elen]

Well, thanks for your comment.

I don't disagree that there may be a family (let's call it "surround 
sound") to which both Quad and Ambisonics belong. In the same way the 
order of Primates includes both prosimians and simians.


However ambisonic.net does not claim to cover the entire family. 
Ambisonic.net is a site devoted to Ambisonics, not to Surround Sound as 
a whole. I in no way "disregard" other areas of the family: they are 
simply not my area of specialisation and I do not claim that my site 
covers them, accurately or otherwise, or even at all.


I have found the Discography extremely helpful over the years and have 
even contributed to it in a tiny way. I would love to see it continue, 
but I could only really justify hosting the Ambisonics section on my 
Ambisonics site. Thankfully others have made useful suggestions re 
hosting the whole thing.


I'd also note that it's entirely up to me what content I regard as 
appropriate or otherwise for my sites.


Best,
--Richard E

On 07/12/2011 12:47, Richard wrote:

I'll just say, I totally disagree with what you've just said. Quad and 
Ambisonics are members of the same, much maligned, family, and to disregard one 
of member is not right


   I'd be happy to host the Ambisonic Discography on ambisonic.net if that
   would help. Obviously the other areas wouldn't be appropriate so if you
   want to keep them together that wouldn't be too helpful.



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Re: [Sursound] Ambisonic UHJ Discography Web Site is Down

[Rev Tony Newnham]

Hi

I use tripod for our church web site - no real problems, except when I
upload the pdf of the church magazine, I have to hunt to find where they've
put it to set up the link!  (maybe that's changed with the latest re-vamp -
the magazine is only bi-monthly).  http:/heatonbradfordbaptist.tripod.com

Every Blessing

Tony

> -Original Message-
> From: sursound-boun...@music.vt.edu [mailto:sursound-boun...@music.vt.edu]
On
> Behalf Of Martin Leese
> Sent: 07 December 2011 18:40
> To: sursound@music.vt.edu
> Subject: Re: [Sursound] Ambisonic UHJ Discography Web Site is Down
> 
> 
> Hi Mark,
> 
> I have used for many years the free Web
> hosting company Tripod.com.  Unlike other
> such companies, Tripod seems to stick around.

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Re: [Sursound] Ambisonic UHJ Discography Web Site is Down

[Martin Leese]

"Mark Anderson"  wrote:
>
> As of today, my internet provider has eliminated providing personnel web
> pages to customers.
>
> This means the Surround Sound Discography and its counterparts like the
> Quadraphonic, Ambisonic, Circle Surround & Dolby Discography's are currently
> not on the internet.
...
> I will post an update when one is available and any suggestions are
> appreciated.

Hi Mark,

I have used for many years the free Web
hosting company Tripod.com.  Unlike other
such companies, Tripod seems to stick around.
The disadvantage is that your readers have to
put up with silly banner adverts.  (You can
eliminate these if you pay them money each
month.)

If you choose to go this route them e-mail me
before choosing your Tripod Username.
There are DNS rules to look out for; I broke
these, and have regretted it ever since.

Regards,
Martin
-- 
Martin J Leese
E-mail: martin.leese  stanfordalumni.org
Web: http://members.tripod.com/martin_leese/
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Re: [Sursound] Ambisonic UHJ Discography Web Site is Down

[Richard]

I'll just say, I totally disagree with what you've just said. Quad and 
Ambisonics are members of the same, much maligned, family, and to disregard one 
of member is not right


  I'd be happy to host the Ambisonic Discography on ambisonic.net if that 
  would help. Obviously the other areas wouldn't be appropriate so if you 
  want to keep them together that wouldn't be too helpful.

  --Richard E

  On 07/12/2011 00:42, Mark Anderson wrote:
  > As of today, my internet provider has eliminated providing personnel web
  > pages to customers.
  >
  > This means the Surround Sound Discography and its counterparts like the
  > Quadraphonic, Ambisonic, Circle Surround&  Dolby Discography's are currently
  > not on the internet.


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Re: [Sursound] Ambisonic UHJ Discography Web Site is Down

[Richard G Elen]

I'd be happy to host the Ambisonic Discography on ambisonic.net if that 
would help. Obviously the other areas wouldn't be appropriate so if you 
want to keep them together that wouldn't be too helpful.


--Richard E

On 07/12/2011 00:42, Mark Anderson wrote:

As of today, my internet provider has eliminated providing personnel web
pages to customers.

This means the Surround Sound Discography and its counterparts like the
Quadraphonic, Ambisonic, Circle Surround&  Dolby Discography's are currently
not on the internet.



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[Sursound] Ambisonic UHJ Discography Web Site is Down

[Mark Anderson]

As of today, my internet provider has eliminated providing personnel web
pages to customers. 

This means the Surround Sound Discography and its counterparts like the
Quadraphonic, Ambisonic, Circle Surround & Dolby Discography's are currently
not on the internet.

At this point I do not know when it will be back up as I need to investigate
my options (maybe a twitter account! no.damn...not enough new UHJ
titles to post like that).

Thanks to Eero Aro and Martin Leese for all the support over the years. I
would also like to thank the folks that have helped with our hobby and have
shared the interest of surround sound since the site appeared in 1994. 

I will post an update when one is available and any suggestions are
appreciated. 

Until then "So Long, and Thanks for All the Fish"


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