Re: [Sursound] SoundField rental in Spain
Thanks Rafael,I decided to go for the mod as it is reasonably prices and I agree that it's good to lower the noise floor as much as possible especially as I use on high gain and record chamber music. Will let you know if I notice a difference though so far I've been delighted wth the results as have the artists recorded (all non-commercial for professional musician friends as a hobby for me). I mix to FO8 but also plan to try some binaural processing soon.Regards,Martin From: Rafael Hidalgo rafa.palm...@gmail.com To: sursound@music.vt.edu Sent: Friday, 26 June 2015, 10:37 Subject: [Sursound] SoundField rental in Spain Hi Martin. I have not a reference from myself to compare the difference, because I bought the recorder directly from BusmanAudio with the 6 preamps moded. Before, I was looking in internet for a reference of the improvement of a moded one, and some people in gearslutz wrote is a litle bit quiet in hi gain, and some goldenears found the differences. A known floor noise of the dr-680 in high gain is from the phantom power, and the Busman mod changes some components on the preamps, like some condensers and the opamps, and those condensers could be the solution on that kind of noise, but not all. Because the Tetramic have a known noise floor highest than others mics like a SF ST350, I thought: less noise always is better, then I decided for this option. Also I choosed this way because when I bought it the price in Europe was higher than now, 1000€, and similar to the moded unit, but without moded. I dont tried to power the tetramic from the PPAs, may be go less floor noise on the recordings. There are a lot of literature about the Busman mods, but not too much to compared files. You can check for yourself in a recent treaht on gearslutz, there are some files with and without modded ins: https://www.gearslutz.com/board/remote-possibilities-acoustic-music-location-recording/980920-busman-dr-680-mod.html Rafa. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/attachments/20150626/82176a06/attachment.html ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscribe here, edit account or options, view archives and so on. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/attachments/20150626/7e592c4c/attachment.html ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscribe here, edit account or options, view archives and so on.
Re: [Sursound] SoundField rental in Spain
A known floor noise of the dr-680 in high gain is from the phantom power, and the?Busman mod changes some components on the preamps, like some condensers and the opamps, and those condensers could be the solution on that kind of noise, but not all. The biggest noise on dr-680 mk1 is poor phantom power. Our own Paul Hodges found a cure which I believe is now in the Busman mod as well as the dr-689 mk2 (Tascam Europe were modifying mk1s at one time when Tascam Japan were denying the problem) This affected Soundfield SP200s and early Brahmas badly. It should not affect TetraMic and mikes properly designed to be resistant to Common Mode noise. http://outrecording.com/tascam-dr-680-noise-test/ DR680 have poor P48V noise. http://www.audiomastersforum.net/amforum/index.php/topic,8654.msg77163.h tml#msg77163 Paul Hodges has a cure. Increase P48V decoupling from 0u5 to 47u The TASCAM specs are meagre and only suggest the Mk2 is still some way from MH/SD/RME/Motu noise. Busman isn't much better when he says lowers the noise floor in the high gain setting by over -8db so I dunno what improvements his supa dupa OPAs bring. Because the Tetramic have a known noise floor highest than others mics like a SF ST350, I thought: less noise always is better, then I decided for this option. TetraMic is inherently very quiet. Your venue noise will be more intrusive even in a quiet studio. Try John Leonard Paul Hodges TetraMic recordings from Ambisonia.com to check this out. http://ambisonic.info/audio.html ST350 is badly flawed but ST450 sorta returns to the performance of a Mk5 Soundfield. ST450 is quieter than TetraMic .. but only if you recording quiet Nature stuff. What TetraMic does need is the very best preamps. If you have a Metric Halo, Sound Devices, RME, Motu 4pre (or Traveler when its working properly 8D) you'll get TetraMic's full noise potential which, as the Ambisonia excepts show, is rather good. For lesser preamps, the new PPAc from Core-Sound, which simplifies life if you have to run long (or short) cables, gets you nearly 2dB nearer that potential. It doesn't make TetraMic inherently quieter but 2dB more output means the preamps will sound 2dB quieter. ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscribe here, edit account or options, view archives and so on.
[Sursound] SoundField rental in Spain
Hi Martin. I have not a reference from myself to compare the difference, because I bought the recorder directly from BusmanAudio with the 6 preamps moded. Before, I was looking in internet for a reference of the improvement of a moded one, and some people in gearslutz wrote is a litle bit quiet in hi gain, and some goldenears found the differences. A known floor noise of the dr-680 in high gain is from the phantom power, and the Busman mod changes some components on the preamps, like some condensers and the opamps, and those condensers could be the solution on that kind of noise, but not all. Because the Tetramic have a known noise floor highest than others mics like a SF ST350, I thought: less noise always is better, then I decided for this option. Also I choosed this way because when I bought it the price in Europe was higher than now, 1000€, and similar to the moded unit, but without moded. I dont tried to power the tetramic from the PPAs, may be go less floor noise on the recordings. There are a lot of literature about the Busman mods, but not too much to compared files. You can check for yourself in a recent treaht on gearslutz, there are some files with and without modded ins: https://www.gearslutz.com/board/remote-possibilities-acoustic-music-location-recording/980920-busman-dr-680-mod.html Rafa. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/attachments/20150626/82176a06/attachment.html ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscribe here, edit account or options, view archives and so on.
Re: [Sursound] SoundField rental in Spain
Dear Rafael,I have the same set-up with Coresound and Tascam and am curious about the Busman Mod - what improvement do you notice and do you consider it worthwhile. I'm UK based so less convenient to ship for a mod.Best Regards, Martin Richards From: Rafael Hidalgo rafa.palm...@gmail.com To: sursound@music.vt.edu Sent: Friday, 19 June 2015, 23:59 Subject: [Sursound] SoundField rental in Spain Hi Daniel, I seen you are looking for rent a SoundField mic in Spain, I have not one, but I have a Core Sound Tetramic and a Tascam DR-680 Busman Audio moded, may be you are interested in it if you dont have any other option. I'm close to Bilbao, not so far from Gijon. Rafael Hidalgo -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/attachments/20150620/88bd261a/attachment.html ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscribe here, edit account or options, view archives and so on. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/attachments/20150620/7d405d49/attachment.html ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscribe here, edit account or options, view archives and so on.
[Sursound] SoundField rental in Spain
Hi Daniel, I seen you are looking for rent a SoundField mic in Spain, I have not one, but I have a Core Sound Tetramic and a Tascam DR-680 Busman Audio moded, may be you are interested in it if you dont have any other option. I'm close to Bilbao, not so far from Gijon. Rafael Hidalgo -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/attachments/20150620/88bd261a/attachment.html ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscribe here, edit account or options, view archives and so on.
[Sursound] SoundField rental in Spain
Hi, A student of mine is looking to rent a SoundField mic in Spain. She's going to be based in Gijon. Any possibilities? Thanks, Daniel ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscribe here, edit account or options, view archives and so on.
