RE:[sustainable_tompkins-l] Fwd: Gas provides bridge to cleaner energy tech
Thanks for sharing, SenecaJean.
I was astonished at how out of date this guy’s comments are.
He has not listened to or heard a single thing over the past six years.
Just repeats the same old Texas tall tales.
Surprised that the IJ would waste valuable editorial space on such an outmoded
point of view.
Hilary L
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The great 'clean' natural gas myth. Not to mention totally oxymoronic.
Jeanne
Gas provides bridge to cleaner energy tech
http://www.ithacajournal.com/story/opinion/readers/2015/02/07/gas-provides-bridge-cleaner-energy-tech/23036587/
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So who are the real environmentalists relative to the subject of fracking? Is
it those that favor the world's dirtiest source of energy — coal? Or is it
those who want to reduce coal as a source of energy in favor of production by a
method with at least 50 percent less greenhouse gases and over 90 percent less
of other deadly pollutants?
In the first group are pseudo-environmentalists who, by opposing fracking, are
in effect advocating the continued use of coal. They talk about solar and wind,
but the reality is that significant energy from these clean sources may be
decades away — conversion to gas can be done relatively quickly.
They talk about safety problems relating to fracking, but over 1.2 million
fracked wells have been drilled in the U.S. with only minor problems, as
witnessed by the fact that over 30 states and the federal government have
backed fracking.
There will be some safety problems with all forms of energy generation
(including wind and solar) and experience has shown that proper regulations
have resulted in few problems with fracking. Also, there is potential in newer,
safer nuclear technology, but it will be at least a decade or two at best until
that could become a reality.
So the production of natural gas from fracking should become an environmentally
sound bridge to a time when even cleaner alternative technologies can be put
into place. And that is happening all across the U.S. However, two states have
banned fracking — New York and Vermont.
Aside from the environmental benefits of fracking noted above, there are major
economic reason for New York to allow fracking. The experiences of other states
have shown significant economic improvement in areas in and around fracking.
(The subject is academic relative to Vermont, since it has no potential for
fracking.)
In New York, the economically distressed Southern Tier has been identified as
having enormous reserves of fracked gas. With proper regulation, there is no
good reason for our governor to have not allowed at least that area to frack.
And the experience of other states would allow New York to invoke appropriate
regulations. (Note that New York had already developed a comprehensive set of
regulations that could be updated to reflect the latest best practices.)
So let's get our heads out of the sand and let the governor know that he has
erred and should correct his mistake.
Keim is the co-chair of New York Environmentalists for Fracking.
ARMAND KEIM1:12 p.m. EST February 7, 2015
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[sustainable_tompkins-l] Tonight! Webinar on REV at 7:00
Hello Folks, Please note that tonight's meeting on the REV at the Unitarian Church has been cancelled. Instead we will be having a webinar so everyone can stay safely home to participate. thanks, Gay -- Gay Nicholson, Ph.D. President Sustainable Tompkins 309 N. Aurora St. Ithaca, NY 14850 www.sustainabletompkins.org 607-533-7312 (home office) 607-220-8991 (cell) 607-272-1720 (ST office) g...@sustainabletompkins.org -- Forwarded message -- From: Sara Hess sarahess...@gmail.com [Shaleshock] shaleshock-nore...@yahoogroups.com Date: Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 3:38 PM Subject: [Shaleshock] Tonight! Webinar on REV at 7:00 To: Shaleshock shalesh...@yahoogroups.com, t-ro...@googlegroups.com t-ro...@googlegroups.com As promised, here is a webinar registration link for the REV panel presentation TONIGHT. - Sara ... Please register for Revving Up for REV on Feb 9, 2015 7:00 PM EST at: https://attendee.gotowebinar.com/register/6780174001472137985 Learn about the most important energy policy reform that you've never heard of -- Reforming the Energy Vision (REV). New York's Pubic Service Commission (PSC) is proposing sweeping policy reforms to create a new energy future for New York State. Exciting - YES! But also troubling: to date the PSC has heard mostly from industry groups and their current plan is to put the corporate owned utilities in charge of our clean energy future. It is ESSENTIAL that we speak up to reclaim our energy future! After registering, you will receive a confirmation email containing information about joining the webinar. -- Jessica Azulay Program Director Alliance for a Green Economy http://www.agreenewyork.org/ 315.480.1515 jess...@allianceforagreeneconomy.org __._,_.___ -- Posted by: Sara Hess sarahess...@gmail.com -- Reply via web post https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Shaleshock/conversations/messages/20619;_ylc=X3oDMTJybTZ1aWZxBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzIzMTU4NjUwBGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2Mzk4NQRtc2dJZAMyMDYxOQRzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNycGx5BHN0aW1lAzE0MjM1MTQzMjc-?act=replymessageNum=20619 • Reply to sender sarahess...@gmail.com?subject=Re%3A%20Tonight%21%20Webinar%20on%20REV%20at%207%3A00 • Reply to group shalesh...@yahoogroups.com?subject=Re%3A%20Tonight%21%20Webinar%20on%20REV%20at%207%3A00 • Start a New Topic https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Shaleshock/conversations/newtopic;_ylc=X3oDMTJmcDhtMG91BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzIzMTU4NjUwBGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2Mzk4NQRzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNudHBjBHN0aW1lAzE0MjM1MTQzMjc- • Messages in this topic https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Shaleshock/conversations/topics/20619;_ylc=X3oDMTM3bXA3MjJmBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzIzMTU4NjUwBGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2Mzk4NQRtc2dJZAMyMDYxOQRzZWMDZnRyBHNsawN2dHBjBHN0aW1lAzE0MjM1MTQzMjcEdHBjSWQDMjA2MTk- (1) Visit Your Group https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Shaleshock/info;_ylc=X3oDMTJmcXB1ZGg5BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzIzMTU4NjUwBGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2Mzk4NQRzZWMDdnRsBHNsawN2Z2hwBHN0aW1lAzE0MjM1MTQzMjc- [image: Yahoo! Groups] https://groups.yahoo.com/neo;_ylc=X3oDMTJlbnBrNGQwBF9TAzk3NDc2NTkwBGdycElkAzIzMTU4NjUwBGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2Mzk4NQRzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNnZnAEc3RpbWUDMTQyMzUxNDMyNw-- • Privacy https://info.yahoo.com/privacy/us/yahoo/groups/details.html • Unsubscribe shaleshock-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe • Terms of Use https://info.yahoo.com/legal/us/yahoo/utos/terms/ . __,_._,___ For more information about sustainability in the Tompkins County area, please visit: http://www.sustainabletompkins.org/ If you have questions about this list please contact the list manager, Tom Shelley, at t...@cornell.edu.
Re: [sustainable_tompkins-l] Hilton Tax Abatement Meeting Tuesday 5pm
It just opens the attachment in your calendar. We only see the one appointment in our own calendars, not all of yours. SS. On Feb 9, 2015, at 7:44 AM, Irene Weiser irene32...@gmail.com wrote: Yikes! Is this what Gmail sent - my entire calendar??!!! HOw very odd - wonder why it did that? Thanks for letting me know... Irene Weiser irene32...@gmail.com Brooktondale, NY 607-539-6856 Joy to the world All the boys and girls Joy to the fishes in the deep blue sea Joy to you and me. On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 7:29 AM, Deborah Cipolla-Dennis dg...@cornell.edu wrote: Community members are urged to come to the Information Session about the proposed Hilton Hotel development 5pm CIty Hall, 2nd floor, to ask these important questions: Will the proposed Hilton building be energy efficient and otherwise protect the environment ? What steps will the developer take to reduce the project's greenhouse gas footprint? Will developers hire local labor to build it? Do they support an apprenticeship program? Will they employ local workers at the hotel once its operating? Will they pay a living wage to all workers and protect their health and safety? Do they have a commitment to diversity in hiring at all pay grades? Will they use locally sourced goods or products when building or upon completion? CSED believes a range of abatements should be offered depending upon the extent of the developer's commitment to providing these sorts of community benefits. For more information about sustainability in the Tompkins County area, please visit: http://www.sustainabletompkins.org/ If you have questions about this list please contact the list manager, Tom Shelley, at t...@cornell.edu.
[sustainable_tompkins-l] Hilton Tax Abatement Meeting Tuesday 5pm
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[sustainable_tompkins-l] Fwd: Don't Convert Cayuga! Press Conference Tuesday 2/10, 12pm Ithaca Town Hall
-- Forwarded message -- From: Reed Steberger, Ratepayer and Community Intervenors jesse.reed.steber...@gmail.com Date: Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 1:16 PM Subject: Don't Convert Cayuga! Press Conference Tuesday 2/10, 12pm Ithaca Town Hall To: Adele gaynichol...@gmail.com Friends, After nearly two years of delay, proposals released on Friday by the Cayuga Power Plant and NYSEG confirm what Ratepayers and Community Intervenors have said to Governor Cuomo and the Public Service Commission over and over: Converting the Cayuga Power Plant from coal-to-gas is too expensive for the public--with a price tag of approximately $145 million. What’s more, the conversion represents a bailout of uneconomic fossil fuel infrastructure when upgrades to grid energy efficiency can meet the same energy needs for a fraction of the cost. Tomorrow, Ratepayers and Community Intervenors will hold a press conference to let Governor Cuomo and the Public Service Commission know that we oppose converting the Cayuga Power Plant from coal to natural gas and instead support less expensive transmission line upgrades that support the development of a 21st century clean energy grid. At the press conference, Ratepayer and Community Intervenors will be joined by local elected officials from four Tompkins County municipalities that have passed resolutions opposing the coal-to-gas conversion, including the Town of Ithaca, the Town of Dryden, the Town of Caroline and the Town of Ulysses. *Join Us for the Press Conference Tomorrow,* *Tuesday, Feb 10th at 12:00 pm, at the Town of Ithaca Town Hall* *What*: Press Conference to Oppose Re-powering the Cayuga Plant *When*: Tuesday, February 10, 12:00 pm *Where*: Town of Ithaca Town Hall, 215 North Tioga Street, Ithaca, NY 14850 *Speakers from*: Ratepayer and Community Intervenors, Local Elected Officials in Tompkins County Hope to see you there. And, keep your eyes out for a call-in-day to oppose the plant conversion on Wednesday. Reed Steberger, for Ratepayers and Community Intervenors *Copyright © 2015 Ratepayer and Community Intervenors, All rights reserved.* You are receiving this email because you signed on to a petition opposing the coal-to-gas conversion at the Cayuga Power Plant. *Our mailing address is:* Ratepayer and Community Intervenors PO Box 85 Ithaca, Ny 14850 Add us to your address book http://ratepayersgroup.us9.list-manage.com/vcard?u=88573066fe3161bd7a79c5954id=69ac8861b6 unsubscribe from this list http://ratepayersgroup.us9.list-manage1.com/unsubscribe?u=88573066fe3161bd7a79c5954id=69ac8861b6e=f1b3efc560c=9b9cdc758f update subscription preferences http://ratepayersgroup.us9.list-manage.com/profile?u=88573066fe3161bd7a79c5954id=69ac8861b6e=f1b3efc560 [image: Email Marketing Powered by MailChimp] http://www.mailchimp.com/monkey-rewards/?utm_source=freemium_newsletterutm_medium=emailutm_campaign=monkey_rewardsaid=88573066fe3161bd7a79c5954afl=1 For more information about sustainability in the Tompkins County area, please visit: http://www.sustainabletompkins.org/ If you have questions about this list please contact the list manager, Tom Shelley, at t...@cornell.edu.
[sustainable_tompkins-l] CORRECTION: Hilton Tax Abatement Meeting TODAY 5pm
Hi All I just learned that the Ithaca Journal got it wrong - the info session about the proposed tax abatement for Hilton Hotel is TODAY - Monday - City Hall, 2nd Floor, 5pm. Drive safe, but hope you can still be there!! Irene Weiser irene32...@gmail.com Brooktondale, NY 607-539-6856 *Joy to the world* *All the boys and girls* *Joy to the fishes in the deep blue sea* *Joy to you and me.* On Sun, Feb 8, 2015 at 10:28 PM, Irene Weiser irene32...@gmail.com wrote: The Coalition for Sustainable Economic Development believes tax abatements are a privilege that should be offered for development that provides clear benefits to the community. Community members are urged to come to the Information Session about the proposed Hilton Hotel development 5pm CIty Hall, 2nd floor, to ask these important questions: - Will the proposed Hilton building be energy efficient and otherwise protect the environment ? What steps will the developer take to reduce the project's greenhouse gas footprint? - Will developers hire local labor to build it? Do they support an apprenticeship program? - Will they employ local workers at the hotel once its operating? - Will they pay a living wage to all workers and protect their health and safety? - Do they have a commitment to diversity in hiring at all pay grades? - Will they use locally sourced goods or products when building or upon completion? CSED believes a range of abatements should be offered depending upon the extent of the developer's commitment to providing these sorts of community benefits. Hilton Canopy developer pitches for tax incentives http://www.ithacajournal.com/story/news/local/2015/02/08/ithaca-hotel-development-abatements/23030063/ The city plans a public information session at 5 p.m. Tuesday for requested tax incentives for the Hilton Canopy Hotel proposed for 320-324 E. State-Martin Luther King Jr. St. Applicant Neil Patel is seeking tax abatements under the city’s Community Investment Incentive Tax Abatement Program for the hotel, which is proposed for the block immediately east of the Commons, on about a half-acre of land now mostly used for parking. It’s the site of the former Strand Theater. The hearing is in the second-floor conference room of City Hall, 108 E. Green St. The CIITAP program is designed to promote dense development in the central-business core. Projects meeting certain size and value minimums can get reductions in city, county and Ithaca City School District property taxes from what would be paid based on the increase in value of the property from being developed. The abatement is 90 percent in the first year then decreases evenly over seven years until the full tax bill is paid. If certified as eligible by the city, the project would go before the Tompkins County Industrial Development Agency before the abatements take effect. The program has been criticized as allowing developers to get out of paying as much taxes as they would otherwise without any guarantees of benefits such as living-wage jobs or using local contractors. Advocates say the program is needed to encourage development downtown, which is more costly because of more complicated construction and high land prices, and helps build the tax base and reduce sprawl. City officials, including Mayor Svante Myrick, have called for reforming the program perhaps to better define minimum benefits. The hotel would be branded a Canopy under the Hilton Hotels company. It would have seven stories, 123 guest rooms, a cafe and bar, meeting rooms, 2,000 square feet of retail space and about 74,500 square feet. The value of the land is $2.4 million and construction worth an estimated $11.5 million, according to the application. Construction is expected to take about a year. Irene Weiser irene32...@gmail.com Brooktondale, NY 607-539-6856 *Joy to the world* *All the boys and girls* *Joy to the fishes in the deep blue sea* *Joy to you and me.* For more information about sustainability in the Tompkins County area, please visit: http://www.sustainabletompkins.org/ If you have questions about this list please contact the list manager, Tom Shelley, at t...@cornell.edu.
