[biofuel] DVDs
Kim, I have to disagree on the DVD issue. I would suggest you buy a DVD player. Not to see one movie, but because video is going the way of Betasaurus Rex, and quickly. Plus, you really have to see how well you can pause and zoom in with DVD. This would be very helpful if you're trying to follow along with your own hose clamps and pliers at home. Either way, format/distribution sounds easy compared with producing the footage. -Steve Message: 18 Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 18:02:57 -0500 From: Kim Garth Travis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: location of girl mark workshops Please, lets not get high tech. Some of us don't own DVD players and I don't think anyone on this list would suggest we should buy one just to view one DVD. CD or video is quite acceptable and could be your $8 including shipping. Bright Blessings, Kim [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Make a clean sweep of pop-up ads. Yahoo! Companion Toolbar. Now with Pop-Up Blocker. Get it for free! http://us.click.yahoo.com/L5YrjA/eSIIAA/yQLSAA/FGYolB/TM ~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Visit to working bio diesel operation
Steve, Come see us as Piedmont Biofuels. We are on the back porch of what was an abandoned double wide. We have a little batch operation (75 gallons at a time), a little distribution business (just pumped 1000 gallons of Store Bought B100 to Chatham County Schools, we have a little coop thing going. We may have embarked on reactor 1.6, a stainless affair on a trailer for our friends at DOE, and we love visitors. What we ought to do is get the little biodiesel bed and breakfast opened. On May 25, 2004, at 2:28 PM, steven mesibov wrote: I will be heading north on vacation with my wife in early June and was wondering if I could stop by and check out a biodiesel operation. No size to small or to large. Anywhere from Florida to NH to Niagra Falls back down through Tennesse and GA. Any suggestions? I promise with Sharie along, the longest I'll be able to check things out will be about an hour, unless we could take you to dinner! Steve __ Do you Yahoo!? Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! Messenger. http://messenger.yahoo.com/ Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links Lyle Estill V.P., Stuff Piedmont Biofuels www.biofuels.coop Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Yahoo! Domains - Claim yours for only $14.70 http://us.click.yahoo.com/Z1wmxD/DREIAA/yQLSAA/FGYolB/TM ~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] Re: Plastic Cones _MaudE
Impressive work, Luc! I hope you will take photos and share them! Naturally, until there are photos, there will be questions... I'm not exactly clear on the fold-out table. Does it fold out on the side of the open cabinet or in front of it? What size is the vessel you're using for preheating? Are you using a vacuum pump to move your cold WVO into it? Will you be ventilating the methoxide container? Thanks! Congratulations not only on developing a useful and compact processor solution but also on having the generosity to offer to share it! Maud --- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, biobenz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Great minds think alike (and fools seldom differ...). I am in the process right now of building just such an enclosed housing for my processor and wash tank. I am going with Girl Mark's Fumeless Processor design utilising a water heater as a processor (Giant has a stubby that holds 110 liters and is only 36inches high) so it fits right in with a 45gal drum (Imperial) having the exact same diameter (25 inhes), sooo, on the one side I am placing the processor and then some shelves in the middle and the wash tank on the other side. The entire cabinet is 3ft wide, 6ft high and 6 ft long. I have a fold out short table that folds up against the far wall where the handles are for moving the unit around on it's casters. Illumination is done via a three light string sold for kitchen decor. Inside the processor and wash tank are elevated allowing enough space to house several 22 liter pails underneath. The elevation also allows for the plumbing from the wash tank to be drilled through the floor and directed to a filter before being stored. I live in a second floor apartment and the unit sits next to the Benz in a heated garage near the electrical outlet and not far from the garden hose attachment. It is almost finished (doing this one paycheck at a time)and will then be painted flat grey to match the cinder block garage walls. The processing will done done nocturnally to afford maximum privacy, the bubbler will be on a timer and the only thing that will protrude is the electrical cord which will run along the floor. One of the central shelves is for the methoxide container and will be high enough to gravity feed it to the pump. The other shelves will hold things like a small hotplate, some titration tools ect... The actual chems will be stored in a locker area that is cool and dark 99% of the time. I will only store very small amounts under the platform the processor and wash tank are sitting on, next to the 22 liter pails. The entire system, including lights is run off a junction box complete with breaker on/off switches, twist-lock connectors for the processor, pump and preheat tank (the preheat tank will be working off the fold out table and feed directly to the pump, the preheat has a 110V immersion heater attached and a drain at the bottom welded to it.),a regular plug-in type electrical outlet (for the hotplate/bubbler/lights) and an emergency mushroon type kill switch just in case. For all intents and purposes it appears like a work station that you would do odd jobs on/with. The flat grey is not very eye catching (the point). Yes, I am taking pictures as I go, and should have the whole thing functional in a few weeks to a month (paycheck to paycheck, ha!) Maybe if Keith wants another example processor for the list I could be encouraged (just ask)to submit all of this again with pics once it is finished. This is a first time event for me in many ways. I have NEVER built a cabinet before. I have NEVER gotten in to any kind of chemistry before. I have NEVER had to design anything from scratch before either. I am sure that someone with actual talent at building stuff could make a much prettier finished product, but it will functional; and discreet. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Make a clean sweep of pop-up ads. Yahoo! Companion Toolbar. Now with Pop-Up Blocker. Get it for free! http://us.click.yahoo.com/L5YrjA/eSIIAA/yQLSAA/FGYolB/TM ~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] Re: Anyone know of a good list for saving energy in the home? *#
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote; It seems to me that it is better to cook where you find the most ease or joy. It occurs to me that if the outside temperature is 90 F and the inside is 76 F, it would not take very many trips to add enough heat and moisture to your home to outweigh the savings in heat from cooking outdoors. Moisture? Isn't this thread about a house in an arid climate? If there is a 4 mph breeze blowing through the door while it is open, and you have to pass through the door six times. Each time you pass through the door it remains open four seconds. That will give you just over 576BTUs, and the outdoor air will probably be drier than the interior air. That is equal to the amount of energy released burning one ounce of charcoal. It would take 96 trips to break even with just one pound of charcoal. It is also equal to one small electric stove burner being on for 6.75 minutes, or an 8 burner for 4.8 minutes, or the oven on for 2.5 minutes, a 1200 watt microwave for 8.4 min. -Laren Corie- http://groups.yahoo.com/group/WoodGas Generate electricity from wood Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Make a clean sweep of pop-up ads. Yahoo! Companion Toolbar. Now with Pop-Up Blocker. Get it for free! http://us.click.yahoo.com/L5YrjA/eSIIAA/yQLSAA/FGYolB/TM ~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] DVD Issues
Hi Guys and Gals I tend to agree with Steve on this one about making a DVD istead of the old video. DVD players are a lot more leaner burners of the electric bill than the video machine. Skip forward people and take the tech step, you won't be sorry. http://152.107.42.100/RocketSeed/mail/433a313a313534313330333a323236313a2d323a3130 DISCLAIMER : Volkswagen of South Africa (Pty) Ltd Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender. No liability shall attach whatsoever to VWSA from this communication except where the sender is acting on specific authority of VWSA, such authority being public record and acknowledged by VWSA by nature of the employee's functions. This document may in no way be photocopied, printed, scanned or electronically duplicated for any purposes other than that for which it was originally intended. If you are not the intended recipient of this communication, please discard this message and notify VWSA immediately at [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Make a clean sweep of pop-up ads. Yahoo! Companion Toolbar. Now with Pop-Up Blocker. Get it for free! http://us.click.yahoo.com/L5YrjA/eSIIAA/yQLSAA/FGYolB/TM ~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] Re: biodiesel with pongamia oil
Mr. Balaji, Can you guide me, Iam facing problem of foam formation during bubble washing. What can be the reason. Also i want to know whether bio-diesel is oily slightly sticky. Regards, Jayant harangaonkar __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Domains - Claim yours for only $14.70/year http://smallbusiness.promotions.yahoo.com/offer Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Yahoo! Domains - Claim yours for only $14.70 http://us.click.yahoo.com/Z1wmxD/DREIAA/yQLSAA/FGYolB/TM ~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] Bubble washing.
Dear all, I have recently joined this group. I have made the biodiesel, but during washing lot of foam formation has occoured but no oil water emulsion has formed. I want to know what can be the reasons what actions to be taken. Regards, Jayant Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Make a clean sweep of pop-up ads. Yahoo! Companion Toolbar. Now with Pop-Up Blocker. Get it for free! http://us.click.yahoo.com/L5YrjA/eSIIAA/yQLSAA/FGYolB/TM ~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] How much WVO?
[Edited to add missing subject line. - KA] When mixing a large batch, say over 15 gallons, how do you determine the amount of WVO? By weighing or by measuring the volume using the height of the oil in the tank? It seems to me that accuracy and precision in determining the amount of oil would be critical and regardless of how close you measure there's always going to be error. In the case of not enough lye+methanol this will result in unreacted oil left over, suspended in the fuel and in such small quantities perhaps no harm?? What happens in the event of too much lye+methanol??? Tony J. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Make a clean sweep of pop-up ads. Yahoo! Companion Toolbar. Now with Pop-Up Blocker. Get it for free! http://us.click.yahoo.com/L5YrjA/eSIIAA/yQLSAA/FGYolB/TM ~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] DVD Issues
It is cheaper to make dvd's rather than video. Im in CT and go to school for TV productions. I will be in the mid west in june and would love to shoot the project and edit it together. Timing would be an issue. I am very interested in donating my time and expertise Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Make a clean sweep of pop-up ads. Yahoo! Companion Toolbar. Now with Pop-Up Blocker. Get it for free! http://us.click.yahoo.com/L5YrjA/eSIIAA/yQLSAA/FGYolB/TM ~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] DVD Issues
Solution: make DVDs and dub some VHS tapes as well. DVDs can ship in the mail for less money than VHS tapes though. -- Martin K Emmerick, Craig wrote: Hi Guys and Gals I tend to agree with Steve on this one about making a DVD istead of the old video. DVD players are a lot more leaner burners of the electric bill than the video machine. Skip forward people and take the tech step, you won't be sorry. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Yahoo! Domains - Claim yours for only $14.70 http://us.click.yahoo.com/Z1wmxD/DREIAA/yQLSAA/FGYolB/TM ~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [biofuel] DVD Issues
I'll volunteer the Mac to do the editing and to burn the master DVD. If we want to burn DVDs for distribution instead of pressing 10,000 copies, I can probably help with that as well. Ryan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2004 8:54 AM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [biofuel] DVD Issues It is cheaper to make dvd's rather than video. Im in CT and go to school for TV productions. I will be in the mid west in june and would love to shoot the project and edit it together. Timing would be an issue. I am very interested in donating my time and expertise Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT http://rd.yahoo.com/SIG=129dpcnnh/M=295196.4901138.6071305.3001176/D=groups/S=1705083269:HM/EXP=1085669781/A=2128215/R=0/SIG=10se96mf6/*http://companion.yahoo.com click here http://us.adserver.yahoo.com/l?M=295196.4901138.6071305.3001176/D=groups/S=:HM/A=2128215/rand=230920867 _ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ . [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Yahoo! Domains - Claim yours for only $14.70 http://us.click.yahoo.com/Z1wmxD/DREIAA/yQLSAA/FGYolB/TM ~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Visit to working bio diesel operation
Lyle, That sounds great! I will be emailing you directly off board and see if we can arrange some dates and times in early to mid June. Anyone else out there on the East Coast or Near East Coast want to show off their stuff to a prospective Florida BioDieseler? Steve --- Lyle Estill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Steve, Come see us as Piedmont Biofuels. We are on the back porch of what was an abandoned double wide. We have a little batch operation (75 gallons at a time), a little distribution business (just pumped 1000 gallons of Store Bought B100 to Chatham County Schools, we have a little coop thing going. We may have embarked on reactor 1.6, a stainless affair on a trailer for our friends at DOE, and we love visitors. What we ought to do is get the little biodiesel bed and breakfast opened. On May 25, 2004, at 2:28 PM, steven mesibov wrote: I will be heading north on vacation with my wife in early June and was wondering if I could stop by and check out a biodiesel operation. No size to small or to large. Anywhere from Florida to NH to Niagra Falls back down through Tennesse and GA. Any suggestions? I promise with Sharie along, the longest I'll be able to check things out will be about an hour, unless we could take you to dinner! Steve __ Do you Yahoo!? Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! Messenger. http://messenger.yahoo.com/ Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links Lyle Estill V.P., Stuff Piedmont Biofuels www.biofuels.coop __ Do you Yahoo!? Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! Messenger. http://messenger.yahoo.com/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Yahoo! Domains - Claim yours for only $14.70 http://us.click.yahoo.com/Z1wmxD/DREIAA/yQLSAA/FGYolB/TM ~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Re: Anyone know of a good list for saving energy in the home? *#
Dear Laren, Thank you for your thoughtful reply. The interior moisture is almost always lower in one's home with central air running. In my case, in humid New Jersey, I have a dehumidifier running in the utility room to take some of the load off the central air. I stand on my primary statement that ease or joy should govern this choice rather than the close call for energy savings in this instance. Regards, Wendell LarenCorie wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote; It seems to me that it is better to cook where you find the most ease or joy. It occurs to me that if the outside temperature is 90 F and the inside is 76 F, it would not take very many trips to add enough heat and moisture to your home to outweigh the savings in heat from cooking outdoors. Moisture? Isn't this thread about a house in an arid climate? If there is a 4 mph breeze blowing through the door while it is open, and you have to pass through the door six times. Each time you pass through the door it remains open four seconds. That will give you just over 576BTUs, and the outdoor air will probably be drier than the interior air. That is equal to the amount of energy released burning one ounce of charcoal. It would take 96 trips to break even with just one pound of charcoal. It is also equal to one small electric stove burner being on for 6.75 minutes, or an 8 burner for 4.8 minutes, or the oven on for 2.5 minutes, a 1200 watt microwave for 8.4 min. -Laren Corie- http://groups.yahoo.com/group/WoodGas Generate electricity from wood Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT [click here] --- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Make a clean sweep of pop-up ads. Yahoo! Companion Toolbar. Now with Pop-Up Blocker. Get it for free! http://us.click.yahoo.com/L5YrjA/eSIIAA/yQLSAA/FGYolB/TM ~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] (fwd) Mercury News, Gas Price Editorial
One person's (not mine) point of view. Forwarded for general discussion purposes. MM */Dear/ Gas Tax Supporters, Today the San Jose Mercury News published the below COIL editorial. To see the actual editorial, as it appeared in the Mercury News, go to **http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/news/opinion/* */ /**Below is text for the editorial with the original headline. The Mercury News changed the headline to. /You with the big car, quit whining - /*USE LESS GAS AND PRICES WILL FALL */ /**/Sincerely, Stan/ * *Rising Gas Prices* The Reality Every year Californians complain about ever increasing gasoline prices. We blame government and the big-bad oil companies. But we rarely consider ourselves as the cause of the increasing gasoline prices. It is always easier to blame others than to consider that we might be causing the problem. Rising gasoline prices are caused by our increasing thirst for gasoline. Demand for oil is increasing worldwide and California, as the second largest user of gasoline in the world, is a major contributor to the worldwide increase in demand. When demand for any product or service exceeds supply then prices increase which is a basic worldwide economic principal. Oil is no exception. Oil exporting countries are responding to the increasing demand by increasing their prices. Crude oil prices have doubled since 1999. The only way Californians can reduce gasoline prices is to reduce demand. It's that simple. If we don't reduce demand gasoline prices will continue to rise. There are no magic bullets to bring down gasoline prices. If we don't reduce our demand we can anticipate paying, five years from now, another 75¢ to $1.00 more per gallon to the refineries and oil producing countries. Here are the facts... -U.S. has a minuscule 2% (includes Alaska) of the worlds proven oil reserves. We can't produce our way out of the oil shortage. -U.S. consumes 25% of the world's oil and 43% of the world's gasoline. -U.S. now imports 55% of its oil and we are rapidly approaching 60%. -California gasoline use, during the past 11 years, has increased by an average of 230 million gallons a year. -In 1992 California burned 13.11 billion gallons. In 2003 we burned 15.66 billion gallons. -During the past 10 years Californian's have added 2.2 million more cars to their roads; approximately 348,000 more cars every year. If Californians do not want to pay oil companies and oil producing nations another 75¢ to $1.00 for a gallon of gas than we, as a state, need to develop a positive plan that encourages people to use less gasoline. There is one thing that all economists seem to agree on. The cheaper gas is, the more is wasted. Europe invoked high gas taxes many years ago, which have caused their per capita gas consumption to plummet. Californians can lead America in that direction, but with a unique twist. Refund the gas tax money to the people. If every dime of gas tax revenue were returned to the people as reductions of other taxes, we would benefit from price-driven gas conservation without increasing our total tax burden. Here is what we can do in the mean time. -Air conditioners use a lot of gas. Only use them when the temperature is above 80 degrees. -Speeding uses even more gas. Driving 60 instead of 70 saves a whole lot of gas. -The biggest payoff is to buy a car that gets better mileage. A 5-mpg increase will save between 750 and 1,500 gallons over the life of the car. Or, we can do nothing and continue to complain about increasing gas prices. Stan Shore Executive Director California Oil Independence League (COIL) P.O Box 1384 Palo Alto, CA 94301 [EMAIL PROTECTED] California Oil Independence League is a local organization that advocates America and California should reduce their dependence on imported oil. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Make a clean sweep of pop-up ads. Yahoo! Companion Toolbar. Now with Pop-Up Blocker. Get it for free! http://us.click.yahoo.com/L5YrjA/eSIIAA/yQLSAA/FGYolB/TM ~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [biofuel] Additional Oklahoma Annecdotal Information
CNN reported that regarding the Oklahoma requirement to be licensed to handle WVO. I wrote into them that if the cops look for someone who's made recent large purchases of methanol and lyeor they could sniff exhaust pipes for the aroma of fries and tacos. Walker Bennett A professional writer is an amateur who didn't quit. Richard Bach, author of Jonathan Livingston Seagull -Original Message- From: murdoch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2004 9:21 PM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: [biofuel] Additional Oklahoma Annecdotal Information This comment was recently posted on the evworld list: To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [evworld] The Vegan Car: Greasel, not diesel... From: James Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 21:25:59 -0700 (PDT) Here in Oklahoma,one has to have a License,from the EPA,I suppose,to get the used oil from a resturant. A fellow I know,started a resturant,about 6mo. ago,I ask for the used Vegie oil,his wife told me I had to have a license to get the oil. MORE OIL CONTROL,I suppose? JW He is speaking from some personal experience and passion, so I don't pass it on as though it's legal gospel for the state. Just a bit of info from one person. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Yahoo! Domains - Claim yours for only $14.70 http://us.click.yahoo.com/Z1wmxD/DREIAA/yQLSAA/FGYolB/TM ~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] Re: scythes, anvils, forges and forgeries - was Digest Number 2113
Hello Go Sorry for the delayed response. Very interesting post, thankyou, a good read. Off-topic? :-) If so, so what? Keith wrote: Snip You make scythe blades? The standard scythe blade used today is 27.5 inches long, made of hammered steel in 26 separate steps, and curved in every dimension to optimise the cut it says here. Aleks Kac sent us two such scythes from Slovenia. They're like the Austrian scythes recommended by David Tresemer, Elliot Fishbein and others as being vastly superior to the American-style scythe, and sold in the US by people like Lehman's (who supply the Amish, among others), but they cost about $60 and up. They're cheap in Slovenia though, where such traditions are still, well, traditional (for now). Feeling much the same about airfreight and couriers as Todd does, and me too, Aleks sent them by surface mail, but somehow they came by air anyway. They're beautiful things. Something of a challenge to make one. Well I am rather glad that I did not know that, because if I had I would probably never have attempted to solve the problem myself. Then I'm also glad you didn't know it, that's really the point, isn't it? At least as far as we're concerned, as far as appropriate technology is concerned too. What happened was I drove over my old scythe with my tractor and snapped the blade in two, Arghhh!! I re-pointed and sharpened the remaining half but it was too short to be any good. I had old Datsun leaf springs laying around and the next to top leaf was curved about right I thought and it was chamfered thinner at both ends. I cut about a 3rd off giving me a thicker end to shape to the shaft (handle) Snath, if you want to be technical about it. end ground out the pointed shape and then ground down a lot of steel to thin the blade and finally shape it. It took a while and used up a few grinding disks but it was all done with a hand held angle grinder and I still use the grinder but with a flap disk to sharpen it up as needed. Well, it may not look exactly like a proper scythe and it is heavier but it works just fine. A noble fate for an old Datsun leaf spring. I use it mostly to keep the grass and weeds down under my electric fencing. Later I made another one for a friend who has a summer house in this area and he never gets here until later in the year by which time his grass is uncut able with an ordinary lawn mower so he uses his to cut his whole garden once a year. I probably shouldn't have called it a scythe... But it is a scythe. if you saw the snow plough I rigged up out of an old water tank .. but it too works just fine :-) It sounds great Go, I'd love to see your place and your gear. from worn out metal saw blades which can be had for free from mechanical workshops they can be had in 10 and 15 centimetre widths. This steel is hardened and will allow excellent sharpness but if you want a particular shape ask them to plasma cut the form you want, if you cut with acetelyn/oxygen the heat will spoil the hardening - you can re harden but it's not that easy. If you want to get into hardening an alternative material source would be vehicle leaf springs from the junk yard. Good, I'd thought of leaf springs. I have some old circular saw blades that I've made knives from, nothing special, workshop and farm knives, but they're good, take a nice edge. And I don't have an anvil. I'm really sorry I didn't get a cheap one from China when we were in Hong Kong. They cost an arm and a leg here in Japan. I do have a two-foot length of heavy steel girder though, I guess it'll do for now, Yes it will be fine for a lot of situations - an alternative is a length or two of railway track. but I'll miss the fancy bits, the pritchel hole, hardie hole, the table An upside down bit of railway track makes a reasonable table. and especially the horn. A right way up railway track piece can be acetelyn/oxygen cut roughly to shape and ground down to your needs. Oh yes, and in my opinion these bits should be mounted on a piece of tree trunk rather than a steel girder for example because the wood will return a readable 'feedback' in time which a steel pedestal can never do. Ha! I've just found an anvil! I think... They throw away tools here (!), superb sets of tools get garbaged when old craftsmen die and their sons aren't interested, very sad - but nice to find! I never found an anvil though, but I just met someone who did. He'll check it out, should know in a couple of days. I haven't got it yet though. These things take time sometimes. Well done, even though it is sad, it's the same here. The silver lining is that another friend makes nails and hooks on his anvil, he charges 39 Skr per hook (about $5) though a hook will take him nearly 5 minutes to bash into shape - he sells plenty to the nostalgic with more money than sense. The nostalgic with more money than sense have
[biofuel] Re: US poll about Iraq war
Hi Brian Keith, I'd like to add my thanks for all you and others do here and on the JTF site. You're welcome Brian, and thankyou in return. And, I'd like to say that there has not yet been a time that a fly has shown up in the ointment that I haven't learned something. People's responses to those flies are always quite enlightening, so I say keep 'em coming. After all, isn't the purpose of all of this to share knowledge? Yes, of course. But not everybody knows how to share, it takes a spirit of cooperation, which I tend to see as sort of basic to being human, but it can be and often is shoved aside by other things - competitiveness, selfishness, greed, arrogance, even cultural differences, all of which we've seen here. All forms of insecurity I think, overloud protests. Just a minority, a small one. Mainly we share. As for flies, well, maybe you're right, but the signal-to-noise ratio is less than ideal, and who's got the time for it? Not me, not anymore. Best wishes Keith Brian --- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, malcolm maclure [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Keith, sorry I've not got back to you, been working away. snip Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Yahoo! Domains - Claim yours for only $14.70 http://us.click.yahoo.com/Z1wmxD/DREIAA/yQLSAA/FGYolB/TM ~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
