Re: [Biofuel] 2004 election voter guide
I agree entirely with your response. However, the good thing about hate is that it can be used to motivate those who do not hate to push for change. Terry does not realize how well e-mails such as his work to motivate those who are not of the religious right, and also probably does not realize that he is far from the mainstream or the majority. I plan to send this to all of my friends, and I am sure that they will send it to all of theirs. Together, we can defeat this kind of hatred and bigotry, and make the world a better place for us all. Brian - Original Message - From: Gustl Steiner-Zehender [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Terry Wilhelm [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 10:54 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] 2004 election voter guide Hallo , Friday, 15 October, 2004, 09:43:10, you wrote: TW Election Voter Guide TW Depending on the way you lean, the following information TW could have bearing on decisions you make in November 2004. TW Issues of Importance? Not as stated. One liners may work for comedians but are generally useless and skewed when it comes to political debate and discussion. What this is is dishonest, misleading and inaccurate when it comes to either side of the fence and it also tends to take ones focus off what is really important and divert it to these piddling little issues of partisan distraction. An entirely unworthy effort. Happy Happy, Gustl TW Gay Marriage TW TW President Bush is opposed TW John Kerry favors TW TW TW Partial-Birth Abortion TW TW President Bush is opposed TW John Kerry favors TW TW TW Restoring voluntary prayer in the public schools TW TW President Bush Favors TW John Kerry is Opposed TW TW TW Boy Scouts' Stand on belief in God and not allowing Homosexual Scout TW Leaders TW TW President Bush supports Boy Scouts' stand TW John Kerry opposes Boy Scouts' stand TW TW TW Asking for God's blessing on America TW TW President Bush often asks God to bless America in his speeches TW John Kerry attacks Bush for mentioning God so often TW TW TW Federal Judges TW TW President Bush says We need common-sense judges who believe our TW rights TW are derived from God. TW John Kerry insists on judges who support the radical anti-Christian, TW anti-God, anti-family agenda. John Kerry is insistent on blocking TW President Bush's Federal judicial appointments. TW TW TW Assault on Mel Gibson for making film about Christ TW TW President Bush supports Gibson TW John Kerry participated in Left's assault on Gibson, suggesting TW possible anti-Semitism, even though Kerry said he had not seen the TW film. TW TW TW Overall Record TW TW President Bush does not vote on issues before Congress but, based on TW his TW publicly stated positions, would receive an 85% conservative rating TW from TW the American Conservative Union if he did. TW TW John Kerry, according to the highly respected, politically-neutral TW National Journal rates Kerry the most liberal U. S. Senator in 2003 TW -- TW more liberal than Ted Kennedy and/or Hillary Clinton. TW TW TW With help from you and many others, the aim is to distribute TW 25,000,000 TW of these TW Election Voter Guides in e-mailboxes to voters across America. TW TW TW If you want to help, please pass this on. TW TW TW If you disagree, then do nothing to help - but DO vote your beliefs. TW ___ TW Biofuel mailing list TW [EMAIL PROTECTED] TW http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel TW Biofuel at Journey to Forever: TW http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html TW Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): TW http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ -- Je mehr wir haben, desto mehr fordert Gott von uns. Mitglied-Team AMIGA ICQ: 22211253-Gustli The safest road to Hell is the gradual one - the gentle slope, soft underfoot, without sudden turnings, without milestones, without signposts. C. S. Lewis, The Screwtape Letters Es gibt Wahrheiten, die so sehr auf der Stra§e liegen, da§ sie gerade deshalb von der gewhnlichen Welt nicht gesehen oder wenigstens nicht erkannt werden. Those who dance are considered insane by those who can't hear the music. George Carlin The best portion of a good man's life - His little, nameless, unremembered acts of kindness and of love. William Wordsworth ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to
Re: [Biofuel] Appeal to Engineers
I would like to extend a thanks to Keith too. My appeal to all Engineers is to consider recent Yahoo news that Fresno, California now declared the #1 IV/Meth/Ilicit Drug City in the U.S. The key factor cited is poverty, low wages, access to good jobs, education. Fresno air basin also the #1 or #2 most Air Polluted Basin in the United States. If any engineers need a place to experiement with new technologies please consider Fresno as an opportunity. (We have some good bluegrass music festivals down there too) I am sorry to see this happen to my home area even though I now reside in Seattle area - I continute volunteer on Fresno Operation Clean Air. The Sierra Club, League of Women Voters, business people, NRDC, and local Ministries are teaming up in some ways - although there have been battles. Thanks for your time. P.Wolfe --- Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Steve Thanks for that. Mr Desai sent me one too, different, I was just going to reply to him, but this is a good idea, I'll post it here as well. The Tinytech Plants are featured at the Biofuels supplies and suppliers page at Journey to Forever (see Oilseed presses), but I'll beef it up now he's told me more about them, and himself. Below... see especially MY BASIC CONVICTIONS about halfway down. Regards Keith From : TINYTECH PLANTS Tagore Road, Rajkot - 360 002, INDIA Tele # 91-281-2480166, 2431086 Fax # 91-281-2467552 Mobile # 91 92 27 60 65 70 Email : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] Website : http://www.tinytechindia.comwww.tinytechindia.com October 13, 2004 Attn.: Keith Addison / Midori Hiraga, I must congratulate for maintaining very good website with full of information relating to renewable energy. I am working for decentralized technology and also for renewable energy. TINY OIL MILL FOR GREEN ENERGY Our tiny oil mills working successfully in 52 countries (list in the website) for edible oil purpose is eminently suitable for making bio diesel from rapeseed which is grown in almost all European countries. So our tiny oil mill is most suited for all rapeseed farmers to extract oil from their own rapeseed and to make bio diesel from it. We understand that bio diesel made from rapeseed becomes 50% cheaper than fossil diesel in Europe. So our tiny oil mill can play very important role in making bio diesel in every farm and thus promoting green energy in Europe. TINY OIL MILL FOR ELECTRICITY GENERATION If you run tiny oil mill with diesel engine instead of electric motor, you can run it with diesel engine in which rapeseed oil can be used instead of diesel. Only 5% oil produced from the tiny oil mill can be consumed in diesel engine to run the tiny oil mill i.e. if you run tiny oil mill for 8 hours time, you will crush one tonne of rapeseed which will give you atleast 300 liters of pure transparent oil out of which you can hardly consume 15 liters of oil for running the tiny oil mill itself. The rest of the 95% oil i.e. 285 liters can be used for cooking or for running the automobiles. Or you can run diesel generating sets which produces electricity by diesel engines and you can use rapeseed oil in diesel generating sets as fuel. So it can be a independent electricity plant. This means that if you have one tiny oil mill, you can produce sufficient rapeseed oil by which you can run the power station of 150 KW capacity by rapeseed oil as a fuel. DETAILS OF TINY OIL MILL Tiny oil mill consists of oil expeller (oil press), electrical cooking kettle with digital temperature controller, filter press, electric motor 10 HP, accessories and spare parts kit etc. It has crushing capacity of 3 tonnes in 24 hours. Only one person can run the entire rapeseed oil mill. Only 20 sq.mtr. space is required to accomodate the mill. Rapeseed can be crushed with cold process without heating it. But European winter is very severe and hence it is desirable to have electrical cooking kettle to heat the oil seeds initially if required. Capacity of oil mill can be increased by multiplying expellers. Oil is instantly filtered to give you pure and fresh transparent oil which anybody will praise as a best quality oil just at a glance. Our tiny oil mill is highly scientific, highly efficient and highly cheap also. So every farmer can afford to install tiny oil mill to crush his own rapeseed to get rapeseed oil which can be directly used in his tractors and automobiles. If the farmer has surplus oil, he can sell out in the market for automobiles i.e. for cars and trucks. Complete mill machinery is sent as a package and you have nothing to buy locally. We provide foundation frame readymade and you have not to make any foundation in the ground. So you can start the oil mill on the same day you receive the machinery (incase of electric motor).
Re: Was Re: [Biofuel] Changing Government/Now ethanol
F. - Original Message - From: Leif Forer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 8:46 PM Subject: Was Re: [Biofuel] Changing Government/Now ethanol Do any one knows the chemical name or trade name of red dye to color diesel fuel?. Unisol. Tks, F. ~Leif --- Leif Forer Piedmont Biofuels www.biofuels.coop (919) 542-2900 ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] fuel additives
Hi Don, I would be guessing - I think somewhere between 8k-12k miles per year would probably be the national average We drive more here in Southern Cali than most. My typical commute to work for the last 6 yrs has been 25 miles each way (50 total miles Mon-Fri). Before this job I drove about 20miles/day round trip. I've averaged close to 20k miles /yr since I acquired the Integra in 1994, which might be normal for So. Cali. Recently we moved close to work so my commute is really 0mi /day (I walk to work now), but there are people here who drive 50 or more miles each way every day. best regards, Ramon On Tue, 12 Oct 2004 11:58:28 +0100, Johnston, Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Ramon. British wet and cold weather must be considered as a factor, as must road salt. The % of hot/cold running should also be considered. Many car users in this country may use their car for frequent short journeys of say 5miles or less with the rresult that some cars may seldom be driven, or attain 'mileage' whilst at designed operating temperature. Avrage annual miles in the UK is approx 10,000 . What is avge inthe USA? Don Johnston Environmental Coordinator , Portsmouth City Council Chair, Solent Energy and Environment Management Group Winner ; National Champion-Science and Technology, Green Apple Awards 2002 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: 023 9283 4247 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ramon Mendoza Sent: 12 October 2004 01:33 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Biofuel] fuel additives I have a 91 Acura Integra, 226k miles, original muffler and tailpipe. Replaced the catalytic converter 2 yrs ago. But then this is a Southern Cali car that I've owned since '94- it had about 45,000 when I got her - haven't had to deal with a lot of ice, sleet, snow and salt on the roads, that's for sure. Ramon --- Legal Eagle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had a Nissan Sentyra 1987 with over 160,000K on it with the original muffler. Only part that went south was the locking flange at the manifold ($26.00). Luc - Original Message - From: Erik Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 11, 2004 6:34 PM Subject: RE: [Biofuel] fuel additives --- Johnston, Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 124k miles on original exhaust seems exceptional to me, really?? is this also the experience of other people? i have quite a few cars here that have 100-200k on gasoline engines with the original exhaust and it's in good condition. and there's one with a rusted out muffler that has about 170k on it. and the diesels range from 150-300k + with no problems yet. i suspect that diesel fuel doesn't have the same problems that gas engines experience, but i don't really know. all numbers are in US miles. erik ___ Do you Yahoo!? Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! http://vote.yahoo.com ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ** This e-mail is for the intended recipient only. If an addressing, transmission or other error has misdirected this e-mail, please notify the author by replying to this e-mail. If you are not the intended recipient you must not use, disclose, distribute, copy, print, or reply to this email. This e-mail may be monitored, read, recorded and retained by Portsmouth City Council. E-mail monitoring/blocking software may be used. ** ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] [Biofuels] Hydrogen or Biofuels?
MH, When I read things that Amory Lovins say about energy savings in residential and tertiary buildings, he normally make a lot of sense, but on hydrogen and fuel cells efficiency he is way out. In best case a hydrogen/fuel cell vehicle have the same efficiency as a gasoline, but will in most cases have a lower efficiency. This if you start from energy source. EVs or even biodiesel hybrids beat the hydrogen/fuel cell with a large margin. Hakan At 12:55 AM 10/14/2004, you wrote: Hydrogen or Biofuels? September / October 2004 By Amory Lovins and David Morris Utne magazine http://www.utne.com/cgi-bin/udt/im.display.printable?client.id=utnestory.id=11334 Two experts go head-to-head on the future of energy In our January-February 2004 issue, we reprinted from Alternet an essay by local-economy advocate David Morris, vice president of the Institute for Local Self-Reliance, in which he takes aim at the advocates of a hydrogen-based economy, asserting, among other things, that because large energy interests are poised to dominate the process of generating hydrogen from substances like gas, oil, and coal, the push to hydrogen will actually be a setback for renewable energy from wind power, biomass, and other sources. Energy analyst Amory B. Lovins, CEO of the Rocky Mountain Institute in Snowmass, Colorado, and a prominent advocate of hydrogen fuel cell technology, responds. FROM AMORY LOVINS In voicing skepticism about the role of hydrogen in our energy future, my valued friend David Morris makes several points: He is understandably frustrated that hydrogen will initially be made mainly from natural gas, as 96 percent of U.S. hydrogen is now. But he wrongly thinks this will waste energy and increase carbon dioxide emissions. Because fuel cells are two to three times more efficient than gasoline engines, CO2 per mile will actually drop by 40 to 67 percent compared with today's gasoline cars -- and much more with efficient car designs. He's irritated that nuclear advocates claim they'll be the hydrogen producers. But they won't be -- their option costs far too much. He's worried that hydrogen might come from coal. This is a real possibility later, but by then we will have good ways to keep the carbon out of the air. Because General Motors likes fuel cells, he assumes that car and oil companies are preparing for an oil-based hydrogen future. Generally, they're not. He thinks hydrogen will be too costly to distribute. Wrong -- the Swiss study he cites [which claimed that the compacting of this very light and diffuse element for storage and transport is too costly and energy-intensive] considered only the clearly uneconomic options and ignored hydrogen's advantage of more efficient use. He thinks a hydrogen transition will need hundreds of billions of dollars of new infrastructure. This is a vast overestimate. He doesn't recognize hydrogen's important potential to accelerate the adoption of renewable energy. Many environmentalists suspect the Bush administration's enthusiasm for hydrogen serves mainly to distract attention from the short-term energy steps they're unwilling to take. It's impossible to tell from the outside whether that's true or not, but if it is, this self-inflicted wound is not a reason to reject a sound hydrogen transition as a complementary part of a broader energy strategy starting with aggressive efficiency, renewable energy, and distributed resources. Many other good and usually well-informed people have written similar critiques of hydrogen. A well-documented response, Twenty Hydrogen Myths, is free at http://www.rmi.org FROM DAVID MORRIS My esteemed colleague Amory Lovins and I agree and disagree. We both focus on the transportation sector. We both favor a dramatic improvement in vehicle efficiency and the replacement of gasoline with a domestically produced, environmentally benign fuel. We disagree on how to achieve these objectives. Amory advocates fuel cell vehicles that run on hydrogen. I propose hybrid electric vehicles fueled by electricity and biofuels like ethanol. I believe my strategy is far cheaper and far quicker to implement than Amory's. Hybrid vehicles, which use electric motors as well as an engine for power, are commercially available. They already achieve fuel efficiencies as great as those promised by fuel cell cars. With modest modifications, hybrids can be made to plug into the electric grid to charge their batteries. That allows electricity to become their primary fuel and reduces by some 85 percent the amount of fuel needed by the engine. In turn, this allows us to think of biofuels like ethanol as replacements for gasoline rather than, as now, simply additives to it. Unlike hydrogen, ethanol is already widely available. Ethanol is half the price of hydrogen today and may have a still lower price a decade from now. Cars that operate on either ethanol or
Re: [Biofuel] Oct 20 Auction in Buffalo. Biodiesel ss tanks/ags.
I live 45 minutes from the site of the Auction in Buffalo. If you are that interested, perhaps I can send you e-mail from the site and be your representative there? I am interested in tanks as-well. I have a 1 ton pickup to carry them. It might be possible to get one or more shipped to you if you can pay me with paypal? Let me know if you want the e-mail first on the 19th when I can go to inpect them for both of us. Phil Guag Meister wrote: Hello All ; Please see : http://www.henrybutcher.com/en/saledetails.asp?SaleID=4127 Bakery auction in Buffalo on Oct. 20. Several VERY nice stainless tanks 100 gal-850 gals with agitators and diaphram pums, controls. Check out site ref #39 (gorgeous), #97, #161 for starters. Wish I was local. Best Regards, Peter G. Thailand __ Do you Yahoo!? Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
[Biofuel] Precautionary Mister Rogers, Part 1
#802 -- Precautionary Mister Rogers, Part 1*, October 14, 2004 Can the precautionary principle be applied at the level of municipalities or neighborhoods? Of course it can. It's already happening. The precautionary principle is also known as the foresight principle, or the principle of fore-caring. The principle says we should think carefully about what we are doing, all of us, with the aim of anticipating and avoiding trouble. We should pay attention and take responsibility for the consequences of our actions. When we discover evidence that trouble is upon us (or about to come upon us), we have a duty to take smart action to prevent harm: we should shift the burden of proof onto the source of the problem to provide full information about the available alternatives, and to explain how he or she guarantees to do much better. The precautionary principle also suggests that people who are affected by a situation or decision (especially workers and community members) should be consulted and informed about it, and should be given a real opportunity to be heard. In this series, we are presenting ideas about how to use the precautionary principle at the local level. A few of these ideas are fully-baked, and a few are still half-baked. We welcome your thoughts on these (or other) ways that the foresight principle, the principle of fore-caring can be applied locally in communities. 1. Precautionary (Least-Harm) Purchasing Your local government can make a policy to purchase the least harmful products and services. Obviously, this requires someone to define harm. Harm can be narrowly defined as involving toxic materials or materials that damage the natural environment and/or human health. (Or, as we'll see later on, harm could be more broadly defined.) Government agencies purchase and use large quantities of toxic materials in public buildings and facilities (cleansers, paints, waxes, lubricants, pesticides, fungicides, etc.); in the operation of ports and harbors; in transportation systems (streets, highways, airports, trains, buses, boats, fleets of automobiles, vans and trucks, etc.); in hospitals and other medical facilities; in providing utility services such as water, street cleaning, waste removal, snow removal, stormwater management, sewage treatment, and public safety; in the maintenance of parks and public lands, and in other ways. San Francisco: Having adopted the precautionary principle to guide all municipal policies, the city and county of San Francisco are now working out the details of a revised environmentally preferable purchasing policy.[1] Portland, Oregon: Just last month, Portland and surrounding Multnomah County created a work group of government officials and citizens to spend the next year developing policies to minimize government's use of toxic materials based on a precautionary approach.[2] Seattle, Washington and surrounding King County have both adopted environmentally preferable purchasing policies.[3] As time goes on, municipalities will gain experience evaluating least-toxic products and may learn to share information so each city does not have to re-invent this wheel. The City of San Francisco has expressed interest in creating such an information-sharing network, as it evaluates the environmental impacts of products that the city purchases. [To learn more about sharing such information, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] These least-harmful purchasing policies promote innovation and economic development because they invite green entrepreneurs to demonstrate their wares. Thus they level the playing field for small entrepreneurs, who sometimes have a hard time competing for mind space at City Hall against the likes of 3M, Dow and DuPont. Consistent with the precautionary principle, least-harm purchasing policies shift the burden of proof onto the manufacturers (or suppliers) of products and the providers of services, requiring them to reveal the chemicals and processes involved in their products. This gives city officials (and therefore the public) a new kind of right to know about the environmental consequences of purchased goods and services. Here the European catch-phrase for precautionary chemicals policy can be used locally: No data, no market. Harm Defined More Broadly But harm can also be defined more broadly, beyond toxic effects on the natural environment and human health. Least harm can be taken to include least harm to the local economy, and least harm to the relationships of respect, trust, caring and reciprocity that are the glue holding communities together. Here we can imagine the precautionary principle beginning to be applied to social relations, not merely physical or biological or chemical relations. As background for the rest of this Precautionary Mister Rogers series, here are 17 rules that Wendell Berry published a few years ago in his essay, Conserving Communities.[4] Berry
Re: [Biofuel] Oct 20 Auction in Buffalo. Biodiesel ss tanks/ags.
Hi Phil ; Thanks for your kind offer. I have been involved in used equipment for many years. I know what it will cost to disassemble, rig, and ship to me here in Thailand (plus import tax and 220V conversion). I think it will not be cost effective. I definately could put the big multi-tank system (#39) to good use. My problem is that I am not local, but also that my operation is not local. My advise to anyone interested is to use the time ahead of the auction to get some pricing on new equipment with similar specs. Then set your upper price limit at 50% (or higher depending on your urgency). Many times I have purchased like new equipment for 10% of new price. That could really make a difference in your business model. My purpose for posting these announcements is to try to see these assets utilized in a renewable energy way, and to try to help some lucky list member hit the ground running and save a lot of money at the same time. Hopefully no one considers these posts commercial. If anyone ever buys anything from my announcements, gainfully utilizes it for renewable energy purposes, and inspires the list with their success, then I have my sufficient reward. Best Regards, Peter G. Thailand --- Philip B. Bechtel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peter: I live 45 minutes from the site of the Auction in Buffalo. If you are that interested, perhaps I can send you e-mail from the site and be your representative there? I am interested in tanks as-well. I have a 1 ton pickup to carry them. It might be possible to get one or more shipped to you if you can pay me with paypal? Let me know if you want the e-mail first on the 19th when I can go to inpect them for both of us. Phil Guag Meister wrote: Hello All ; Please see : http://www.henrybutcher.com/en/saledetails.asp?SaleID=4127 Bakery auction in Buffalo on Oct. 20. Several VERY nice stainless tanks 100 gal-850 gals with agitators and diaphram pums, controls. Check out site ref #39 (gorgeous), #97, #161 for starters. Wish I was local. Best Regards, Peter G. Thailand __ Do you Yahoo!? Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
RE: [Biofuel] Iodine Value
Thanks Christopher. Sincerely, Gregg Christopher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 109-133 according to the Merck Index. Hope that helps, Christopher -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Gregg Davidson Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 1:40 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Biofuel] Iodine Value Hello Everyone, Is there any information on the Iodine Value of Corn oil anywhere in the archives? I've found the I.V. for other oils, but corn (miaze) wasn't among them. Help! Sincerely, Gregg Davidson __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ - Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Address AutoComplete - You start. We finish. ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] [Biofuels] Hydrogen or Biofuels?
Hakan, I'm not well versed on either of these gentlemen but find them interesting notably RMI's HyperCar. Has either of them described how efficiency and renewable energy will replace our current fossil fuel and nuclear energy demands? Besides, an alternative I enjoy, bicycling. MH, When I read things that Amory Lovins say about energy savings in residential and tertiary buildings, he normally make a lot of sense, but on hydrogen and fuel cells efficiency he is way out. In best case a hydrogen/fuel cell vehicle have the same efficiency as a gasoline, but will in most cases have a lower efficiency. This if you start from energy source. EVs or even biodiesel hybrids beat the hydrogen/fuel cell with a large margin. Hakan Hydrogen or Biofuels? September / October 2004 By Amory Lovins and David Morris Utne magazine http://www.utne.com/cgi-bin/udt/im.display.printable?client.id=utnestory.id=11334 Two experts go head-to-head on the future of energy In our January-February 2004 issue, we reprinted from Alternet an essay by local-economy advocate David Morris, vice president of the Institute for Local Self-Reliance, in which he takes aim at the advocates of a hydrogen-based economy, asserting, among other things, that because large energy interests are poised to dominate the process of generating hydrogen from substances like gas, oil, and coal, the push to hydrogen will actually be a setback for renewable energy from wind power, biomass, and other sources. Energy analyst Amory B. Lovins, CEO of the Rocky Mountain Institute in Snowmass, Colorado, and a prominent advocate of hydrogen fuel cell technology, responds. FROM AMORY LOVINS In voicing skepticism about the role of hydrogen in our energy future, my valued friend David Morris makes several points: He is understandably frustrated that hydrogen will initially be made mainly from natural gas, as 96 percent of U.S. hydrogen is now. But he wrongly thinks this will waste energy and increase carbon dioxide emissions. Because fuel cells are two to three times more efficient than gasoline engines, CO2 per mile will actually drop by 40 to 67 percent compared with today's gasoline cars -- and much more with efficient car designs. He's irritated that nuclear advocates claim they'll be the hydrogen producers. But they won't be -- their option costs far too much. He's worried that hydrogen might come from coal. This is a real possibility later, but by then we will have good ways to keep the carbon out of the air. Because General Motors likes fuel cells, he assumes that car and oil companies are preparing for an oil-based hydrogen future. Generally, they're not. He thinks hydrogen will be too costly to distribute. Wrong -- the Swiss study he cites [which claimed that the compacting of this very light and diffuse element for storage and transport is too costly and energy-intensive] considered only the clearly uneconomic options and ignored hydrogen's advantage of more efficient use. He thinks a hydrogen transition will need hundreds of billions of dollars of new infrastructure. This is a vast overestimate. He doesn't recognize hydrogen's important potential to accelerate the adoption of renewable energy. Many environmentalists suspect the Bush administration's enthusiasm for hydrogen serves mainly to distract attention from the short-term energy steps they're unwilling to take. It's impossible to tell from the outside whether that's true or not, but if it is, this self-inflicted wound is not a reason to reject a sound hydrogen transition as a complementary part of a broader energy strategy starting with aggressive efficiency, renewable energy, and distributed resources. Many other good and usually well-informed people have written similar critiques of hydrogen. A well-documented response, Twenty Hydrogen Myths, is free at http://www.rmi.org FROM DAVID MORRIS My esteemed colleague Amory Lovins and I agree and disagree. We both focus on the transportation sector. We both favor a dramatic improvement in vehicle efficiency and the replacement of gasoline with a domestically produced, environmentally benign fuel. We disagree on how to achieve these objectives. Amory advocates fuel cell vehicles that run on hydrogen. I propose hybrid electric vehicles fueled by electricity and biofuels like ethanol. I believe my strategy is far cheaper and far quicker to implement than Amory's. Hybrid vehicles, which use electric motors as well as an engine for power, are commercially available. They already achieve fuel efficiencies as great as those promised by fuel cell cars. With modest modifications, hybrids can be made to plug into the electric grid to charge their batteries. That allows electricity to
Re: [Biofuel] Appeal to Engineers
Hi Philip, you effort to clean up Fresnos Air is verry apreciated,but tell me where is the bad Air going since you can,t sweep it under the Carpet? To blame Ingeneers for all the Pollution is not the rigth thing either! When are you americans ready to admit that it is your livestyle of consumption polluting the whole world and making live unbearible for so many! How about starting at the source of consumption - advertising and greed- after all its all a matter of perseption! The appeal to Ingeneers will treat only the symptons not the sickness! my oppinion anyway Fritz - Original Message - From: Phillip Wolfe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 7:01 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Appeal to Engineers I would like to extend a thanks to Keith too. My appeal to all Engineers is to consider recent Yahoo news that Fresno, California now declared the #1 IV/Meth/Ilicit Drug City in the U.S. The key factor cited is poverty, low wages, access to good jobs, education. Fresno air basin also the #1 or #2 most Air Polluted Basin in the United States. If any engineers need a place to experiement with new technologies please consider Fresno as an opportunity. (We have some good bluegrass music festivals down there too) I am sorry to see this happen to my home area even though I now reside in Seattle area - I continute volunteer on Fresno Operation Clean Air. The Sierra Club, League of Women Voters, business people, NRDC, and local Ministries are teaming up in some ways - although there have been battles. Thanks for your time. P.Wolfe --- Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Steve Thanks for that. Mr Desai sent me one too, different, I was just going to reply to him, but this is a good idea, I'll post it here as well. The Tinytech Plants are featured at the Biofuels supplies and suppliers page at Journey to Forever (see Oilseed presses), but I'll beef it up now he's told me more about them, and himself. Below... see especially MY BASIC CONVICTIONS about halfway down. Regards Keith From : TINYTECH PLANTS Tagore Road, Rajkot - 360 002, INDIA Tele # 91-281-2480166, 2431086 Fax # 91-281-2467552 Mobile # 91 92 27 60 65 70 Email : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] Website : http://www.tinytechindia.comwww.tinytechindia.com October 13, 2004 Attn.: Keith Addison / Midori Hiraga, I must congratulate for maintaining very good website with full of information relating to renewable energy. I am working for decentralized technology and also for renewable energy. TINY OIL MILL FOR GREEN ENERGY Our tiny oil mills working successfully in 52 countries (list in the website) for edible oil purpose is eminently suitable for making bio diesel from rapeseed which is grown in almost all European countries. So our tiny oil mill is most suited for all rapeseed farmers to extract oil from their own rapeseed and to make bio diesel from it. We understand that bio diesel made from rapeseed becomes 50% cheaper than fossil diesel in Europe. So our tiny oil mill can play very important role in making bio diesel in every farm and thus promoting green energy in Europe. TINY OIL MILL FOR ELECTRICITY GENERATION If you run tiny oil mill with diesel engine instead of electric motor, you can run it with diesel engine in which rapeseed oil can be used instead of diesel. Only 5% oil produced from the tiny oil mill can be consumed in diesel engine to run the tiny oil mill i.e. if you run tiny oil mill for 8 hours time, you will crush one tonne of rapeseed which will give you atleast 300 liters of pure transparent oil out of which you can hardly consume 15 liters of oil for running the tiny oil mill itself. The rest of the 95% oil i.e. 285 liters can be used for cooking or for running the automobiles. Or you can run diesel generating sets which produces electricity by diesel engines and you can use rapeseed oil in diesel generating sets as fuel. So it can be a independent electricity plant. This means that if you have one tiny oil mill, you can produce sufficient rapeseed oil by which you can run the power station of 150 KW capacity by rapeseed oil as a fuel. DETAILS OF TINY OIL MILL Tiny oil mill consists of oil expeller (oil press), electrical cooking kettle with digital temperature controller, filter press, electric motor 10 HP, accessories and spare parts kit etc. It has crushing capacity of 3 tonnes in 24 hours. Only one person can run the entire rapeseed oil mill. Only 20 sq.mtr. space is required to accomodate the mill. Rapeseed can be crushed with cold process without heating it. But European winter is very severe and hence it is desirable to have electrical cooking kettle to heat the oil seeds initially if required. Capacity of oil
Re: [Biofuel] 2004 election voter guide - Whoops!
Wow guys If you can believe this, I did not write that. It was just an email running around the Internet. Considering how this group likes to talk about the Administration, (usually one sided) I tought that you might find some humor in it. But it seems like some people are not very opened minded like others of us that have been able to read your emails for the last four years about how much the Adminstration has screwed things up. We shall see how ABC does in the end. Regards to all, Terry Brian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gustl, I agree entirely with your response. However, the good thing about hate is that it can be used to motivate those who do not hate to push for change. Terry does not realize how well e-mails such as his work to motivate those who are not of the religious right, and also probably does not realize that he is far from the mainstream or the majority. I plan to send this to all of my friends, and I am sure that they will send it to all of theirs. Together, we can defeat this kind of hatred and bigotry, and make the world a better place for us all. Brian - Original Message - From: Gustl Steiner-Zehender To: Terry Wilhelm Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 10:54 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] 2004 election voter guide Hallo , Friday, 15 October, 2004, 09:43:10, you wrote: TW Election Voter Guide TW Depending on the way you lean, the following information TW could have bearing on decisions you make in November 2004. TW Issues of Importance? Not as stated. One liners may work for comedians but are generally useless and skewed when it comes to political debate and discussion. What this is is dishonest, misleading and inaccurate when it comes to either side of the fence and it also tends to take ones focus off what is really important and divert it to these piddling little issues of partisan distraction. An entirely unworthy effort. Happy Happy, Gustl TW Gay Marriage TW TW President Bush is opposed TW John Kerry favors TW TW TW Partial-Birth Abortion TW TW President Bush is opposed TW John Kerry favors TW TW TW Restoring voluntary prayer in the public schools TW TW President Bush Favors TW John Kerry is Opposed TW TW TW Boy Scouts' Stand on belief in God and not allowing Homosexual Scout TW Leaders TW TW President Bush supports Boy Scouts' stand TW John Kerry opposes Boy Scouts' stand TW TW TW Asking for God's blessing on America TW TW President Bush often asks God to bless America in his speeches TW John Kerry attacks Bush for mentioning God so often TW TW TW Federal Judges TW TW President Bush says We need common-sense judges who believe our TW rights TW are derived from God. TW John Kerry insists on judges who support the radical anti-Christian, TW anti-God, anti-family agenda. John Kerry is insistent on blocking TW President Bush's Federal judicial appointments. TW TW TW Assault on Mel Gibson for making film about Christ TW TW President Bush supports Gibson TW John Kerry participated in Left's assault on Gibson, suggesting TW possible anti-Semitism, even though Kerry said he had not seen the TW film. TW TW TW Overall Record TW TW President Bush does not vote on issues before Congress but, based on TW his TW publicly stated positions, would receive an 85% conservative rating TW from TW the American Conservative Union if he did. TW TW John Kerry, according to the highly respected, politically-neutral TW National Journal rates Kerry the most liberal U. S. Senator in 2003 TW -- TW more liberal than Ted Kennedy and/or Hillary Clinton. TW TW TW With help from you and many others, the aim is to distribute TW 25,000,000 TW of these TW Election Voter Guides in e-mailboxes to voters across America. TW TW TW If you want to help, please pass this on. TW TW TW If you disagree, then do nothing to help - but DO vote your beliefs. TW ___ TW Biofuel mailing list TW [EMAIL PROTECTED] TW http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel TW Biofuel at Journey to Forever: TW http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html TW Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): TW http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ -- Je mehr wir haben, desto mehr fordert Gott von uns. Mitglied-Team AMIGA ICQ: 22211253-Gustli The safest road to Hell is the gradual one - the gentle slope, soft underfoot, without sudden turnings, without milestones, without signposts. C. S. Lewis, The Screwtape Letters Es gibt Wahrheiten, die so sehr auf der Straße liegen, daß sie gerade deshalb von der gewöhnlichen Welt nicht gesehen oder wenigstens nicht erkannt werden. Those who dance are considered insane by those who can't hear the music. George Carlin The best portion of a good man's life - His little, nameless, unremembered acts of kindness and of love.
[Biofuel] Re: [Biofuels] Hydrogen or Biofuels?
Hakan Falk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MH, When I read things that Amory Lovins say about energy savings in residential and tertiary buildings, he normally make a lot of sense, but on hydrogen and fuel cells efficiency he is way out. In best case a hydrogen/fuel cell vehicle have the same efficiency as a gasoline, but will in most cases have a lower efficiency. This if you start from energy source. EVs or even biodiesel hybrids beat the hydrogen/fuel cell with a large margin. Hakan I'm generally supportive of what the Lovins' write and the Rocky Mountain Institute publishes. But like Hakan (and Morris and others) I think Amory Lovins has missed the mark on hydrogen. Most of the efficiency gains that Lovins postulates arise from the Hypercar's characteristics, not from use of hydrogen fuel or fuel cells. I really wonder if he has joined the hydrogen bandwagon to try to get more exposure for his Hypercar concept. There are a couple of solid refutations of Lovins paper Twenty Hydrogen Myths. http://www.rmi.org/images/other/Energy/E03-05_20HydrogenMyths.pdf (I see they have moved it again. It's hard to keep links working to the RMI site.) My favourite: John R. Wilson (at EV World) http://evworld.com/view.cfm?section=articlestoryid=581 As always, more on the hydrogen economy at http://www.econogics.com/en/heconomy.htm Darryl McMahon At 12:55 AM 10/14/2004, you wrote: Hydrogen or Biofuels? September / October 2004 By Amory Lovins and David Morris Utne magazine http://www.utne.com/cgi-bin/udt/im.display.printable?client.id=utnestory.id=11334 Two experts go head-to-head on the future of energy In our January-February 2004 issue, we reprinted from Alternet an essay by local-economy advocate David Morris, vice president of the Institute for Local Self-Reliance, in which he takes aim at the advocates of a hydrogen-based economy, asserting, among other things, that because large energy interests are poised to dominate the process of generating hydrogen from substances like gas, oil, and coal, the push to hydrogen will actually be a setback for renewable energy from wind power, biomass, and other sources. Energy analyst Amory B. Lovins, CEO of the Rocky Mountain Institute in Snowmass, Colorado, and a prominent advocate of hydrogen fuel cell technology, responds. FROM AMORY LOVINS In voicing skepticism about the role of hydrogen in our energy future, my valued friend David Morris makes several points: He is understandably frustrated that hydrogen will initially be made mainly from natural gas, as 96 percent of U.S. hydrogen is now. But he wrongly thinks this will waste energy and increase carbon dioxide emissions. Because fuel cells are two to three times more efficient than gasoline engines, CO2 per mile will actually drop by 40 to 67 percent compared with today's gasoline cars -- and much more with efficient car designs. He's irritated that nuclear advocates claim they'll be the hydrogen producers. But they won't be -- their option costs far too much. He's worried that hydrogen might come from coal. This is a real possibility later, but by then we will have good ways to keep the carbon out of the air. Because General Motors likes fuel cells, he assumes that car and oil companies are preparing for an oil-based hydrogen future. Generally, they're not. He thinks hydrogen will be too costly to distribute. Wrong -- the Swiss study he cites [which claimed that the compacting of this very light and diffuse element for storage and transport is too costly and energy-intensive] considered only the clearly uneconomic options and ignored hydrogen's advantage of more efficient use. He thinks a hydrogen transition will need hundreds of billions of dollars of new infrastructure. This is a vast overestimate. He doesn't recognize hydrogen's important potential to accelerate the adoption of renewable energy. Many environmentalists suspect the Bush administration's enthusiasm for hydrogen serves mainly to distract attention from the short-term energy steps they're unwilling to take. It's impossible to tell from the outside whether that's true or not, but if it is, this self-inflicted wound is not a reason to reject a sound hydrogen transition as a complementary part of a broader energy strategy starting with aggressive efficiency, renewable energy, and distributed resources. Many other good and usually well-informed people have written similar critiques of hydrogen. A well-documented response, Twenty Hydrogen Myths, is free at http://www.rmi.org FROM DAVID MORRIS My esteemed colleague Amory Lovins and I agree and disagree. We both focus on the transportation sector. We both favor a dramatic improvement in vehicle efficiency and the replacement of gasoline with a
Re: [Biofuel] Methanol from Trees
I have seen the Alternatives to Fossil Fueled Engine/Generators , before, but to me it looked like a guess work mixed with facts. I liked the looks of the alternative of using a 36 V electrical arc to convert a water/sugar solution to H2 and CO and running it through a liquid suspended catalyst.This was presented on this list when we were back on the yahoo list, but, for the life of me, since my computer crash and moving to the wwia list, I have not been able to find the actual posting in the archives or remember who posted it ( Gr ). I always liked the look of SOFCs ( Solid Oxide Fuel Cells ) for their flexibility of fuel use and the high temperature of operation for co-generation, use for hot water or building heat. Greg H. - Original Message - From: MH [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 11:00 Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Methanol from Trees Greg Harbican wrote: I really hope this is a technology that can be scaled down for home use. I have several trees ( and bushes ) in my yard that are causing problems, that I would like to turn into Methanol. Greg H. I happened to see your reply in the archives. There was something mentioned in Alternatives to Fossil Fueled Engine/Generators by Clifford W. Mossberg http://journeytoforever.org/at_woodfire.html If your goal is to produce methyl alcohol (methanol) somewhere under the heading, Wood Gasification Basics Perhaps this is to controversial particularly regarding Direct Methanol Fuel Cells http://www.eere.energy.gov/hydrogenandfuelcells/fuelcells/fc_types.html ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
[Biofuel] China fights UN sanctions on Sudan to safeguard oil
News China fights UN sanctions on Sudan to safeguard oil By Jasper Becker in Beijing 15 October 2004 China is trying to stop the United Nations imposing sanctions on Sudan over the crisis in the Darfur regionto protect its oil imports from the country, say western diplomats. For the past six years Beijing has been the Sudanese government's main backer, buying 70 per cent of its exports, servicing its $20bn debt and supplying the Khartoum government with most of its weapons. Beijing oil imports jumped 35 per cent this year and its reliance on a growing number of rogue states to meet its needs is putting it on a collision course with the United States. Sudan and Iran together supply 20 per cent of China's oil imports, and if economic sanctions were applied to either, Beijing would be unable to sustain its high growth rates. China was identified by diplomats as the member responsible for watering down last month's Security Council resolution which threatened to halt Sudan's oil exports if it did not stop atrocities in the Darfur region, where Arab militias are terrorising African villagers. The issue will be put before the council again at the end of this month, when members will consider a report on progress made by Khartoum in halting the violence. Sudan is the largest recipient of Chineseoverseas investment and some 10,000 Chinese are working in the country. Since 1999 China has poured up to $3bn (£1.6bn) into developing several oil fields and building a 930-mile pipeline, refinery and port. The UN Security Council is committed to reviewing the situation on a monthly basis. Given the stream of bad news, it could soon move to embargo Sudan's oil exports. China's ambassador to the UN, Wang Guangya, has already threatened to veto any such resolution, but diplomats say Beijing may have to give in to mounting international pressure. Beijing is already under fire for its support of Burma, North Korea and Iran, countries also accused of breaches of international law. China was also singled out in the recently released Charles Duelfer report on Iraq's WMD, along with Russia and France, for breaching the UN sanctions against Iraq and subverting the oil-for-food programme. But China is almost alone in supporting Sudan. After the US imposed sanctions in November 1997, the rest of the world - apart from companies from Pakistan, India and Malaysia - have kept their distance. Sudan's attraction to China, other than its pariah status, is that it holds Africa's greatest unexploited oil resources, even greater than those of the Gulf of Guinea. China has helped to boost Sudan's crude oil production from 150,000 barrels per day in 2000 to an expected 500,000 bpd in 2005. All this comes from oil fields in central and south-central regions which may hold only 15 per cent of Sudan's total reserves. A failure in Sudan could severely damage China's shaky efforts to become a global player in the oil business. When Saddam Hussein was overthrown, China lost a key partner. Recently, two pipelines to import oil from Kazakhstan and Russia have been dogged by unexpected delays and problems. Securing long-term supplies of oil, natural gas, iron ore, copper and other vital minerals has become the top priority for China, and it is investing everywhere. One new project is a 600-mile, $2bn pipeline from Burma's deepwater port of Sittwe, which will follow a projected railway line to China's south-western province of Yunnan. Another is the development of Gwadar Port in Pakistan, which China hopes to use to ship oil and gas from the Gulf. A pipeline to Xinjiang over the Karakoram Pass will follow. ©2004 Independent Digital (UK) Ltd ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
[Biofuel] Pressure points
Guardian Unlimited Pressure points The climate is changing. But where will we see the devastating effects first? Ian Sample reports on Earth's 12 most fragile places Thursday October 14, 2004 The Guardian Cast an eye over the many forests' worth of scientific literature on global warming and it quickly becomes clear that working out what a temperature rise of a few degrees will mean for life anywhere on the planet is far from straightforward. Vast ice sheets may melt, sea levels will rise, and faced with a new climate, species must adapt, move or perish. Yet the precise details of how any of it will happen are, frankly, unknown. Now it seems the future has become even more uncertain. Climate scientists say they have identified a dozen weak links around the world, regions where global warming could bring about the sudden, catastrophic collapse of vital ecosystems. The consequences will be felt far and wide. An abrupt halt in one ocean current could devastate Antarctic fish stocks, while disruption to another could make temperatures in Britain and elsewhere plunge. When rains return to the Sahara, disease and crop damage from pests could soar. Meanwhile, a drier Amazon will trigger huge die-back of the forests, threatening many species with extinction. Losing the forests will itself exacerbate global warming. Earlier this week, scientists reported that we may have less time to combat global warming than we realised. Measurements of carbon dioxide, a greenhouse gas, taken from the Mauna Loa Observatory, 12,000ft up a mountain in Hawaii, suggest atmospheric carbon dioxide levels have risen sharply and inexplicably in the past two years, prompting fears of runaway global warming. Though it is too early to confirm that it is a definite upward trend, the results came as an unwelcome surprise to climatologists. Over the span of the coming century, even the most extreme global warming scenario predicted by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change - an increase of 5.8C - seems gentle. Surely civilisation will have enough time to protect itself against the consequences, while ecosystems could gradually adapt? Not so, say scientists studying the world's weakest links. John Schellnhuber, research director at the Tyndall Centre for Climate Change Research in Norwich, played a key role in identifying the dozen systems where global warming could produce sudden and dramatic environmental damage. He calls them the tipping points, the achilles heels of the planet. At a conference earlier this year, Schellnhuber and other scientists called for a concerted, global effort to investigate the earth's known tipping points and to search for new ones. Only then, he says, will we be able to identify where the consequences will be felt first. It'll take a global effort to understand these, and we have to make sure that none are activated through human actions, he says. Here, we present a list of the tipping points and what might happen if they are triggered. Sahara desert Occupying some 3.5m square miles of northern Africa, the Sahara desert is expected to shrink with global warming as more plentiful rain brings a flourish of vegetation to its southernmost reaches. For those on the edge of the desert, the fertile land will undoubtedly be a boon, but the Sahara plays a broader role in the health of the planet. The dry dust that is whipped up from the desert by strong prevailing winds contains crucial nutrients that seed the Atlantic and may even help fertilise the Amazon. As the Sahara turns from brown to green, the flux of nutrients into the ocean is expected to drop, restricting food available for plankton, the smallest of links in the marine food chain. As the number of plankton falls, so does food for aquatic creatures further up the food chain. That's not the only knock-on effect. Plankton lock up the greenhouse gas CO -2 /- from the atmosphere, and so help counter global warming. With fewer plankton, the oceans will take less of the gas from the Earth's atmosphere. Dust from the Sahara has other, more subtle influences. When blown out over the Atlantic, clouds of Saharan dust act to stabilise the atmosphere, suppressing the formation of hurricanes. A greener Sahara could mean more frequent, or more severe hurricanes slamming into the Caribbean, parts of central and southern America and the south-eastern US. Meanwhile, the now wetter Saharan regions of Sudan, Morocco and Algeria could become more prone to infestations of locusts, such as the swarms that have devastated crops in the region this year. Amazon forest The size of western Europe, the Amazon forest is one of the most biodiverse regions on Earth. Models suggest that with global warming will come a drop in Amazonian rainfall, leading to the gradual death of the forest and subsequent collapse of the myriad ecosystems it supports. The extinction of species is only
Re: [Biofuel] Methanol from Trees
I have seen the Alternatives to Fossil Fueled Engine/Generators , before, but to me it looked like a guess work mixed with facts. I liked the looks of the alternative of using a 36 V electrical arc to convert a water/sugar solution to H2 and CO and running it through a liquid suspended catalyst.This was presented on this list when we were back on the yahoo list, but, for the life of me, since my computer crash and moving to the wwia list, I have not been able to find the actual posting in the archives or remember who posted it ( Gr ). http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/BIOFUEL/16362/ A sweet solution for automotive fuel 2002-08-31 http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/BIOFUEL/20533/ Fwd: New fuel cell runs on sugar syrup---who needs Exxon anyway. 2003-02-01 http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/BIOFUEL/26156/ Researchers find new metal combination for cheaper production of 2003-07-03 I always liked the look of SOFCs ( Solid Oxide Fuel Cells ) for their flexibility of fuel use and the high temperature of operation for co-generation, use for hot water or building heat. http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/BIOFUEL/8458/ Prototype Fuel Cell Runs On Liquid Diesel 2001-09-07 http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/BIOFUEL/19628/ Fuel cell uses liquid diesel 2003-01-01 http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/BIOFUEL/19627/ Milestone in the development of micro fuel cell technology 2003-01-01 http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/BIOFUEL/25896/ Breakthrough in Solid Oxide Fuel Cells 2003-06-23 HTH Keith Greg H. - Original Message - From: MH [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 11:00 Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Methanol from Trees Greg Harbican wrote: I really hope this is a technology that can be scaled down for home use. I have several trees ( and bushes ) in my yard that are causing problems, that I would like to turn into Methanol. Greg H. I happened to see your reply in the archives. There was something mentioned in Alternatives to Fossil Fueled Engine/Generators by Clifford W. Mossberg http://journeytoforever.org/at_woodfire.html If your goal is to produce methyl alcohol (methanol) somewhere under the heading, Wood Gasification Basics Perhaps this is to controversial particularly regarding Direct Methanol Fuel Cells http://www.eere.energy.gov/hydrogenandfuelcells/fuelcells/fc_types.html ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
RE: [Biofuel] Iodine Value
109-133 according to the Merck Index. Hope that helps, Christopher -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Gregg Davidson Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 1:40 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Biofuel] Iodine Value Hello Everyone, Is there any information on the Iodine Value of Corn oil anywhere in the archives? I've found the I.V. for other oils, but corn (miaze) wasn't among them. Help! Sincerely, Gregg Davidson __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
