Re: [Biofuel] Cross Posted: Mercury Levels Rising: Report Release
I am so sorry to say that nothing you can eat will stop the heavy metals contamination if they are in your food or water. I do not know about food or water but our railway painters were given free milk to drink because of the lead based paints they had to use. Chris Wessex Ferret Club www.wessexferretclub.co.uk ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Cross Posted: Mercury Levels Rising: Report Release
BTW and this is a little off topic as well but while we're on the natural remedies subject I've also found that rubbing bacon grease all over myself and my tent is very effective against mosquitos when I'm travelling in bear country. It's not a babe magnet either :( It doesn't polarise fuel either:( I guess I'm not being too helpful. :( Joe Michael Redler wrote: One remedy for heavy metals does not a babe-magnet make. :-) Mike Tom Irwin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Mike and All, I'm increasing my garlic intake. It seems that one of the compounds in garlic acts as a chelating agent for heavy metals. I don't know if it will catch mercury but it is supposed to be fairly effective for lead. Tom Irwin From: Mike McGinness [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] To: Sent: Sun, 12 Feb 2006 13:54:55 -0300 Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Cross Posted: Mercury Levels Rising: Report Release The mercury in vaccines and flu shots has been reduced 99.9% from what it was a few years ago (I researched this a few months ago for a recent booster shot) if you get the right supplier!! BUT, Ask to see the paper work first for the actual vial being used!! I found that out while dealing with the local County Health Clinic dispensing the Vaccines recently. Of course that begs the next question of what toxin they replaced the mercury with to keep the vaccine and flu shots sterile and presumably safe! Mike McGinness Margo wrote: Mercury seems to be in the vaccines as well, including flu shots. I don't know what the answer is, but there must be a better answer than some of the things we humans have come up with so far. I still think the natural food industry has a lot to contribute in this area. Young Living has some very interesting information in some of their latest studies. - Original Message - From: "Mike McGinness" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2006 4:48 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Cross Posted: Mercury Levels Rising: Report Release In regards to mercury emissions from burning coal and my prior comments: I almost forgot the really big, big BIG issue. All silver colored dental fillings are currently still made from mercury amalgam metal alloy (50% raw mercury!!!) according to my local dentist Therefore, We are probably the single largest unregulated source of mercury emissions in the environment! Thanks to the FDA! Mike McGinness ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Cross Posted: Mercury Levels Rising: Report Release
Joe: Bacon grease may not turn you into a babe magnet but the black bears will certainly find you and your tent attractive as well as tasty. Doug Turner - Original Message - From: Joe Street To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 9:08 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Cross Posted: Mercury Levels Rising: Report Release BTW and this is a little off topic as well but while we're on the natural remedies subject I've also found that rubbing bacon grease all over myself and my tent is very effective against mosquitos when I'm travelling in bear country. It's not a babe magnet either :( It doesn't polarise fuel either:( I guess I'm not being too helpful. :(JoeMichael Redler wrote: One remedy for heavy metals does not a babe-magnet make. :-) Mike Tom Irwin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Mike and All, I'm increasing my garlic intake. It seems that one of the compounds in garlic acts as a chelating agent for heavy metals. I don't know if it will catch mercury but it is supposed to be fairly effective for lead. Tom Irwin From: Mike McGinness [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]To: Sent: Sun, 12 Feb 2006 13:54:55 -0300Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Cross Posted: Mercury Levels Rising: Report ReleaseThe mercury in vaccines and flu shots has been reduced 99.9% from what it was a few yearsago (I researched this a few months ago for a recent booster shot) if you get the rightsupplier!! BUT, Ask to see the paper work first for the actual vial being used!! Ifound that out while dealing with the local County Health Clinic dispensing the Vaccinesrecently.Of course that begs the next question of what toxin they replaced the mercury with to keepthe vaccine and flu shots sterile and presumably safe!Mike McGinnessMargo wrote: Mercury seems to be in the vaccines as well, including flu shots. I don't know what the answer is, but there must be a better answer than some of the things we humans have come up with so far. I still think the natural food industry has a lot to contribute in this area. Young Living has some very interesting information in some of their latest studies. - Original Message - From: "Mike McGinness" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2006 4:48 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Cross Posted: Mercury Levels Rising: Report Release In regards to mercury emissions from burning coal and my prior comments: I almost forgot the really big, big BIG issue. All silver colored dental fillings are currently still made from mercury amalgam metal alloy (50% raw mercury!!!) according to my local dentist Therefore, We are probably the single largest unregulated source of mercury emissions in the environment! Thanks to the FDA! Mike McGinness ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___Biofuel mailing listBiofuel@sustainablelists.orghttp://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.orgBiofuel at Journey to Forever:http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.htmlSearch the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages):http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] How I spent my 15 minutes of fame - William Blum
The Anti-Empire Report Some things you need to know before the world ends February 14, 2006 by William Blum How I spent my 15 minutes of fame In case you don't know, on January 19 the latest audiotape from Osama bin Laden was released and in it he declared: If you [Americans] are sincere in your desire for peace and security, we have answered you. And if Bush decides to carry on with his lies and oppression, then it would be useful for you to read the book 'Rogue State', which states in its introduction ... He then goes on to quote the opening of a paragraph I wrote (which appears actually in the Foreword of the British edition only, that was later translated to Arabic), which in full reads: If I were the president, I could stop terrorist attacks against the United States in a few days. Permanently. I would first apologize -- very publicly and very sincerely -- to all the widows and the orphans, the impoverished and the tortured, and all the many millions of other victims of American imperialism. I would then announce that America's global interventions -- including the awful bombings -- have come to an end. And I would inform Israel that it is no longer the 51st state of the union but -- oddly enough -- a foreign country. I would then reduce the military budget by at least 90% and use the savings to pay reparations to the victims and repair the damage from the many American bombings and invasions. There would be more than enough money. Do you know what one year of the US military budget is equal to? One year. It's equal to more than $20,000 per hour for every hour since Jesus Christ was born. That's what I'd do on my first three days in the White House. On the fourth day, I'd be assassinated. Within hours I was swamped by the media and soon appeared on many of the leading TV shows, dozens of radio programs, with long profiles in the Washington Post, Salon.com and elsewhere. In the previous ten years the Post had declined to print a single one of my letters, most of which had pointed out errors in their foreign news coverage. Now my photo was on page one. Much of the media wanted me to say that I was repulsed by bin Laden's endorsement. I did not say I was repulsed because I was not. After a couple of days of interviews I got my reply together and it usually went something like this: There are two elements involved here: On the one hand, I totally despise any kind of religious fundamentalism and the societies spawned by such, like the Taliban in Afghanistan. On the other hand, I'm a member of a movement which has the very ambitious goal of slowing down, if not stopping, the American Empire, to keep it from continuing to go round the world doing things like bombings, invasions, overthrowing governments, and torture. To have any success, we need to reach the American people with our message. And to reach the American people we need to have access to the mass media. What has just happened has given me the opportunity to reach millions of people I would otherwise never reach. Why should I not be glad about that? How could I let such an opportunity go to waste? Celebrity -- modern civilization's highest cultural achievement -- is a peculiar phenomenon. It really isn't worth anything unless you do something with it. The callers into the programs I was on, and sometimes the host, in addition to numerous emails, repeated two main arguments against me. (1) Where else but in the United States could I have the freedom to say what I was saying on national media? Besides their profound ignorance in not knowing of scores of countries with at least equal freedom of speech (particularly since September 11), what they are saying in effect is that I should be so grateful for my freedom of speech that I should show my gratitude by not exercising that freedom. If they're not saying that, they're not saying anything. (2) America has always done marvelous things for the world, from the Marshall Plan and defeating communism and the Taliban to rebuilding destroyed countries and freeing Iraq. I have dealt with these myths and misconceptions previously; like sub-atomic particles, they behave differently when observed. For example, in last month's report I pointed out in detail that destroyed countries were usually destroyed by American bombs; and America did not rebuild them. As to the Taliban, the United States overthrew a secular, women's-rights government in Afghanistan, which led to the Taliban coming to power; so the US can hardly be honored for ousting the Taliban a decade later, replacing it with an American occupation, an American puppet president, assorted warlords, and women chained. But try to explain all these fine points in the minute or so one has on radio or TV. However, I think I somehow managed to squeeze in a lot of information and thoughts
Re: [Biofuel] Cross Posted: Mercury Levels Rising: Report Release
Greetings, We have found that real vanilla, mixed 1/2 1/2 with water and sprayed on skin is extremely effective against mesquitos here in Texas. It is possible to buy clear vanilla from Mexico so you don't stain your clothes. It also smells much nicer than bacon grease. Might help with the babe problem, as well. Bright Blessings, Kim At 08:08 AM 2/15/2006, you wrote: BTW and this is a little off topic as well but while we're on the natural remedies subject I've also found that rubbing bacon grease all over myself and my tent is very effective against mosquitos when I'm travelling in bear country. It's not a babe magnet either :( It doesn't polarise fuel either:( I guess I'm not being too helpful. :( Joe Michael Redler wrote: One remedy for heavy metals does not a babe-magnet make. :-) Mike Tom Irwin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Mike and All, I'm increasing my garlic intake. It seems that one of the compounds in garlic acts as a chelating agent for heavy metals. I don't know if it will catch mercury but it is supposed to be fairly effective for lead. Tom Irwin From: Mike McGinness [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] To: Sent: Sun, 12 Feb 2006 13:54:55 -0300 Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Cross Posted: Mercury Levels Rising: Report Release The mercury in vaccines and flu shots has been reduced 99.9% from what it was a few years ago (I researched this a few months ago for a recent booster shot) if you get the right supplier!! BUT, Ask to see the paper work first for the actual vial being used!! I found that out while dealing with the local County Health Clinic dispensing the Vaccines recently. Of course that begs the next question of what toxin they replaced the mercury with to keep the vaccine and flu shots sterile and presumably safe! Mike McGinness Margo wrote: Mercury seems to be in the vaccines as well, including flu shots. I don't know what the answer is, but there must be a better answer than some of the things we humans have come up with so far. I still think the natural food industry has a lot to contribute in this area. Young Living has some very interesting information in some of their latest studies. - Original Message - From: Mike McGinness [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2006 4:48 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Cross Posted: Mercury Levels Rising: Report Release In regards to mercury emissions from burning coal and my prior comments: I almost forgot the really big, big BIG issue. All silver colored dental fillings are currently still made from mercury amalgam metal alloy (50% raw mercury!!!) according to my local dentist Therefore, We are probably the single largest unregulated source of mercury emissions in the environment! Thanks to the FDA! Mike McGinness ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Fwd: Burning down the library
Fwd from the Sustainable Agriculture Network Discussion Group (SANET). Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2006 15:51:08 EST From: Michael Elvin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Burning down the library To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The current administration's anti-science stance has been much remarked on, as so much of current scientific research seems to be going in directions counter to their preferred policy direction. However, even for them, this latest wrinkle is a bit much. Maintenance for the EPA's research library is being discontinued. This is the reference library the government's own scientists use in determining environmental threats. It contains every paper EPA scientists have ever published-- papers that will be lost to view once the plan has been implemented. It also contains case files on every regulated industry that has come to the EPA's attention over pollution issues. Why is it being shut down? I'm glad you asked. The plan is a belt tightening measure appearing in the fine print of the President's newly proposed federal budget. In otherwords, as we are currently $8,210,432,000,000 in debt, this cost-saving move will save the taxpayer two million dollars ($2,000,000). Interested parties might want to get in there and access what they want for their hard drives before the resource is shut down forever. http://www.commondreams.org/news2006/0210-07.htm http://www.commondreams.org/news2006/0210-07.htm Public Employees for Environmental Responsibility (PEER) FEBRUARY 10, 2006 CONTACT: Public Employees for Environmental Responsibility (PEER) http://www.peer.org Chas Offutt (202) 265-7337 Bush Axing Libraries While Pushing for More Research EPA Set to Close Library Network and Electronic Catalog WASHINGTON - February 10 - Under President Bush's proposed budget, the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency is slated to shut down its network of libraries that serve its own scientists as well as the public, according to internal agency documents released today by Public Employees for Environmental Responsibility (PEER). In addition to the libraries, the agency will pull the plug on its electronic catalog which tracks tens of thousands of unique documents and research studies that are available nowhere else. Under Bush's plan, $2 million of a total agency library budget of $2.5 million will be lost, including the entire $500,000 budget for the EPA Headquarters library and its electronic catalog that makes it possible to search for documents through the entire EPA library network. These reductions are just a small portion of the $300 million in cuts the administration has proposed for EPA operations. At the same time, President Bush is proposing to significantly increase EPA research funding for topics such as nanotechnology, air pollution and drinking water system security as part of his American Competitive Initiative. How are EPA scientists supposed to engage in cutting edge research when they cannot find what the agency has already done? asked PEER Executive Director Jeff Ruch, noting that EPA Administrator Stephen Johnson is moving to implement the proposed cuts as soon as possible. The President's plan will not make us more competitive if we have to spend half our time re-inventing the wheel. EPA's own scientists and enforcement staff are the principal library users. EPA's scientists use the libraries to research questions such as the safety of chemicals and the environmental effects of new technologies. EPA enforcement staff use the libraries to obtain technical information to support pollution prosecutions and to track the business histories of regulated industries. EPA currently operates a network of 27 libraries operating out of its Washington, D.C. Headquarters and ten regional offices across the country. The size of the cuts will force the Headquarters library and most of the regional libraries to shut their doors and cease operations. Each year, the EPA libraries - * Handle more than 134,000 research requests from its own scientific and enforcement staff; * House and catalog an estimated 50,000 unique documents that are available nowhere else; and * Operate public reading rooms and provide the public with access to EPA databases. Access to information is one of the best tools we have for protecting the environment, added Ruch, calling the cuts the epitome of penny wise and pound foolish. By contrast, closing the Environmental Protection Agency libraries actually threatens to subtract from the sum total of human knowledge. ### ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Looking for still materials in Houston, TX
I am looking for materials for constructing an ethanol still out of copper pipe and fittings like the one shown below: http://www.moonshine-still.com/ materials list is here, the second one down on the page: Internal Reflux Still: http://www.moonshine-still.com/Appendix%201.htm any ideas where I can find the materials in Houston? i cannot buy wholesale and that is the only source i have found. thanks Mark ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Looking for still materials in Houston, TX
They all look like standard hardware store items to me, but I'm also spoiled by a really good hardware store in town. Have you tried Home Depot? They might have stuff which could be made to work. On 2/15/06, Mark Kennedy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am looking for materials for constructing an ethanol still out of copper pipe and fittings like the one shown below: http://www.moonshine-still.com/ materials list is here, the second one down on the page: Internal Reflux Still: http://www.moonshine-still.com/Appendix%201.htm any ideas where I can find the materials in Houston? i cannot buy wholesale and that is the only source i have found. thanks Mark ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Looking for still materials in Houston, TX
Home Depot was my first stop. I have three of them within 10 mins of my house. the home depot's around here only carry copper pipe up to 1 diameter. 1.5 and 2 is uncommon in residential use here because of the climate, i suppose. i wish i knew a plumber here... but... pvc is plentiful but i have seen recommendations against it. anything wrong with building one out of pvc for first-time short-term use? -Mark -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Zeke Yewdall Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 12:16 PM To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Looking for still materials in Houston, TX They all look like standard hardware store items to me, but I'm also spoiled by a really good hardware store in town. Have you tried Home Depot? They might have stuff which could be made to work. On 2/15/06, Mark Kennedy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am looking for materials for constructing an ethanol still out of copper pipe and fittings like the one shown below: http://www.moonshine-still.com/ materials list is here, the second one down on the page: Internal Reflux Still: http://www.moonshine-still.com/Appendix%201.htm any ideas where I can find the materials in Houston? i cannot buy wholesale and that is the only source i have found. thanks Mark ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Looking for still materials in Houston, TX
Yeah, if I remember, they don't carry large copper here either -- drainpiping is most commonly ABS nowadays (and for the last 25 years I think...). What temperatures/pressures is it operating at? If you can find CPVC it might work, as it's designed for high temp use, unlike PVC. Since it's designed for hot water plumbing, it might not come in large sizes either. How about using metal electrical conduit? I know you can get it in 2 easily. Finding the adaptors might be harder, since electrical conduit is typically run through electrical boxes for any junctions, rather than having them be in the pipe like water. On 2/15/06, Mark Kennedy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Home Depot was my first stop. I have three of them within 10 mins of my house. the home depot's around here only carry copper pipe up to 1 diameter. 1.5 and 2 is uncommon in residential use here because of the climate, i suppose. i wish i knew a plumber here... but... pvc is plentiful but i have seen recommendations against it. anything wrong with building one out of pvc for first-time short-term use? -Mark -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Zeke Yewdall Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 12:16 PM To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Looking for still materials in Houston, TX They all look like standard hardware store items to me, but I'm also spoiled by a really good hardware store in town. Have you tried Home Depot? They might have stuff which could be made to work. On 2/15/06, Mark Kennedy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am looking for materials for constructing an ethanol still out of copper pipe and fittings like the one shown below: http://www.moonshine-still.com/ materials list is here, the second one down on the page: Internal Reflux Still: http://www.moonshine-still.com/Appendix%201.htm any ideas where I can find the materials in Houston? i cannot buy wholesale and that is the only source i have found. thanks Mark ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Looking for still materials in Houston, TX
found a couple of suppliers, here. just had to do a little digging. thanks! -Mark -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mark Kennedy Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 11:38 AM To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: [Biofuel] Looking for still materials in Houston, TX I am looking for materials for constructing an ethanol still out of copper pipe and fittings like the one shown below: http://www.moonshine-still.com/ materials list is here, the second one down on the page: Internal Reflux Still: http://www.moonshine-still.com/Appendix%201.htm any ideas where I can find the materials in Houston? i cannot buy wholesale and that is the only source i have found. thanks Mark ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Looking for still materials in Houston, TX
Mark, I llved in Dallas for 10 years and I found that Apex Supply always had what I needed. I also worked for Home Depot so I understand that they don't always have the specialty items. http://www.apexsupplyco.com/branches.htm They have several branches around Texas, the closest to you is Austin but perhaps they can either ship parts to you or you can contact them for a suggestoin on a closer source in Houston. Steve On Thursday 16 February 2006 08:43 am, Mark Kennedy wrote: Home Depot was my first stop. I have three of them within 10 mins of my house. the home depot's around here only carry copper pipe up to 1 diameter. 1.5 and 2 is uncommon in residential use here because of the climate, i suppose. i wish i knew a plumber here... but... pvc is plentiful but i have seen recommendations against it. anything wrong with building one out of pvc for first-time short-term use? -Mark -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Zeke Yewdall Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 12:16 PM To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Looking for still materials in Houston, TX They all look like standard hardware store items to me, but I'm also spoiled by a really good hardware store in town. Have you tried Home Depot? They might have stuff which could be made to work. On 2/15/06, Mark Kennedy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am looking for materials for constructing an ethanol still out of copper pipe and fittings like the one shown below: http://www.moonshine-still.com/ materials list is here, the second one down on the page: Internal Reflux Still: http://www.moonshine-still.com/Appendix%201.htm any ideas where I can find the materials in Houston? i cannot buy wholesale and that is the only source i have found. thanks Mark ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ -- Steve Racz (03) 383 8167 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Cross Posted: Mercury Levels Rising: Report Release
Title: Re: [Biofuel] Cross Posted: Mercury Levels Rising: Report Release What a fantastic solution this might be during BlackFly Season AAAGGG! Thanks Kim. Jesse From: Garth Kim Travis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 08:38:28 -0600 To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Cross Posted: Mercury Levels Rising: Report Release Greetings, We have found that real vanilla, mixed 1/2 1/2 with water and sprayed on skin is extremely effective against mesquitos here in Texas. It is possible to buy clear vanilla from Mexico so you don't stain your clothes. It also smells much nicer than bacon grease. Might help with the babe problem, as well. Bright Blessings, Kim At 08:08 AM 2/15/2006, you wrote: BTW and this is a little off topic as well but while we're on the natural remedies subject I've also found that rubbing bacon grease all over myself and my tent is very effective against mosquitos when I'm travelling in bear country. It's not a babe magnet either :( It doesn't polarise fuel either:( I guess I'm not being too helpful. :( Joe Michael Redler wrote: One remedy for heavy metals does not a babe-magnet make. :-) Mike Tom Irwin [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Mike and All, I'm increasing my garlic intake. It seems that one of the compounds in garlic acts as a chelating agent for heavy metals. I don't know if it will catch mercury but it is supposed to be fairly effective for lead. Tom Irwin From: Mike McGinness [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] To: Sent: Sun, 12 Feb 2006 13:54:55 -0300 Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Cross Posted: Mercury Levels Rising: Report Release The mercury in vaccines and flu shots has been reduced 99.9% from what it was a few years ago (I researched this a few months ago for a recent booster shot) if you get the right supplier!! BUT, Ask to see the paper work first for the actual vial being used!! I found that out while dealing with the local County Health Clinic dispensing the Vaccines recently. Of course that begs the next question of what toxin they replaced the mercury with to keep the vaccine and flu shots sterile and presumably safe! Mike McGinness Margo wrote: Mercury seems to be in the vaccines as well, including flu shots. I don't know what the answer is, but there must be a better answer than some of the things we humans have come up with so far. I still think the natural food industry has a lot to contribute in this area. Young Living has some very interesting information in some of their latest studies. - Original Message - From: Mike McGinness [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org mailto:Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2006 4:48 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Cross Posted: Mercury Levels Rising: Report Release In regards to mercury emissions from burning coal and my prior comments: I almost forgot the really big, big BIG issue. All silver colored dental fillings are currently still made from mercury amalgam metal alloy (50% raw mercury!!!) according to my local dentist Therefore, We are probably the single largest unregulated source of mercury emissions in the environment! Thanks to the FDA! Mike McGinness ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org mailto:Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives
[Biofuel] Biodiesel from Fresh-Pressed Oil
Dear Ken (Provost) and all, As per your response in: http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/msg35109.html Our cooperative plans on cold-pressing canola oil for utilization in Mike Pelly's model A processor. Do you forsee the gums posing a problem in reaching ASTM-spec quality fuel? Check us out at: www.communicrop.com Thanks, Joey HundertFounder-memberCommunicrop Biodiesel Cooperative ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Ordering pizza in the near future
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Re: [Biofuel] So called magnetic fuel conditioners
I use the Fuel Meiser recommended by Hakan's website; the bigger one made for V8's for my V6. I get ~1.5-2 more miles per gallon. Lillie ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Biodiesel from Fresh-Pressed Oil
Joey: Gums will typically come out as a gunky brown layer floating on top of the gycerine but below the biodiesel. Degumming first will avoid having to deal with that layer, but is not necessary. Either way, they won't make it into the finished product. -K ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Trying to produce biodiesel in laboratory scale
Hi all! Ive been trying (made 5 batches) to produce biodiesel in a laboratory, for educational purposes. This is what Ive been doing: - 1 liter of virgin oil from supermarket - 200 mL of methanol - 3,5 grams of sodium hydroxide - Prepared the sodium metoxide by stirring for 24 hours (magnetic stirrer) in an closed Erlenmeyer - Preheated the oil to 55ºC - Using a flask with an attached Liebig condenser (to prevent methanol vapors to escape), mixed vigorously for 1 hour maintaining agitation and constant temperature (eventually drops to 52ºC when the metoxide is added) and maybe rising to a maximum of 60ºC at some instants. I do get a clear phase separation after 24 hours, but my biodiesel isnt crystal clear. When I mix a sample of the unwashed biodiesel with water and shake it, the emulsion wont separate . It will after some hours, but with a lot of soap formation, widespread in the container. Im using good reactants (not p.a. but trustworthy) and anhydrous conditions. There one thing I should say: I never got all the sodium hydroxide to completely dissolve in the methanol. No matter how long I keep stirring, it simply wont dissolve quantitatively. But I do filtrate the remains of solid hydroxide. Do you think this can be the problem? How can I solve it? What can I be doing wrong? Why do I keep getting all this soap? Where do you think the problem might be? In a reactant? Bad quality oil? Do you think I should titrate the virgin oil? Thank you all for your attention Duarte Nuno ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Plug pulled on renewable energy gurus
Published on 14 Feb 2006 by Denver Post. Archived on 15 Feb 2006.http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_3506521 Plug pulled on renewable energy gurus by Diane Carman The day Carol Tombari got fired plays in her head like a scene from a cheesy espionage thriller.She arrived at work and was told to appear at a mandatory meeting in 20 minutes. It was there that she learned she was being laid off and that she had five hours to pack and vacate the premises.When she returned to her desk, her computer had been disabled, her phone service cut.She had to cancel an appearance the next day at a regional mayors' caucus. Her presentation on the importance of energy efficiency to local governments was locked in her computer. She was among the disappeared from the National Renewable Energy Laboratory in Golden, where 31 workers were dismissed seven days after President Bush read the words "addicted to oil" off the teleprompter and announced yet another "Advanced Energy Initiative.""It was a week to the day after the State of the Union," Tombari said. The single mother of three with a son in college was given one month's severance pay."I can understand budget cuts. I can understand realigning the mission at NREL. But being treated like a corporate saboteur, that was rough," said Tombari, who has worked in energy policy for more than 25 years.John Thornton, an engineer and 28-year veteran at NREL, is another casualty of the post-State of the Union sweep. He was given until March 31 to get out."You never know with these budgets," said Thornton, who survived an NREL purge during the Reagan administration.Still, the political shenanigans have a crippling impact on research. Projects are abandoned, careers are interrupted, lives are thrown into turmoil.The scientists at NREL "have no peer," U.S. Department of Energy spokesman Craig Stevens crowed last week.They also have no job security.Tombari's job was to work with state and local governments to incorporate new technologies into public policies. Before she came to NREL in 1993, she directed the Texas Energy Office for 10 years."I loved my job," she said. "Ideally, if I had the money, I would do what I was doing at NREL for free. Those of us who worked at NREL had a real passion for the technology."It's technology so marginalized few Americans even realize it exists."Our current institutions and processes are stacked against emerging energy technologies," Tombari said.Just look at the decades-old techniques available for saving energy in lighting, heating and manufacturing. If they were adopted, Tombari said, they would be "virtual power plants," creating enormous volumes of energy by reclaiming what is wasted.Or just look at the collapse of the U.S. auto industry, while Toyota devours market share with its hot hybrids.Ironically, Tombari said, "A lot of the hybrid technology was developed right here at NREL" - and ignored.Detroit automakers knew how to build fuel-efficient cars; they simply chose not to. As a result, they ceded the technology - and the market - to the Japanese."It's really astounding that the public knows as little as it does about the work that goes on at NREL," said Tombari. "I mean, the research is great, but unless it gets into the marketplace, it's a waste."Despite our lack of appreciation for NREL, many of its innovations will continue to find their way into the international marketplace. With high oil and gas prices, there's too much money to be made in alternative energy technologies to stop them. "The industry is exploding internationally," said Thornton.While our commitment to developing alternative energy sources in the U.S. too often is just empty rhetoric - "greenwashing," Tombari calls it - around the world it's the Holy Grail."There's a tremendous market out there," said Thornton, who hopes to be able to work with his friends at NREL again someday. In the meantime, though, he said not to worry. The former NREL scientists will land on their feet.It's the Advanced Energy Initiative that could be in trouble.___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Plug pulled on renewable energy gurus
Yeah. I knew several people who got canned there last week. This week I tried calling my former boss from when I worked there and found he had been deleted from the system. My roommate who works with Carol and John mentioned in the article managed to keep his job for this round, although he is taking a month or two of unpaid furlough. The worst thing is that these people will not have too hard of a time getting new jobs -- the PV industry is exploding here. But NREL will have lost all their experienced people, and next year when (if) the budget goes back up as Bush promised, it will take 10 years to rebuild the research programs and train new people. Zeke On 2/15/06, Michael Redler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Published on 14 Feb 2006 by Denver Post. Archived on 15 Feb 2006. http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_3506521 Plug pulled on renewable energy gurus by Diane Carman The day Carol Tombari got fired plays in her head like a scene from a cheesy espionage thriller. She arrived at work and was told to appear at a mandatory meeting in 20 minutes. It was there that she learned she was being laid off and that she had five hours to pack and vacate the premises. When she returned to her desk, her computer had been disabled, her phone service cut. She had to cancel an appearance the next day at a regional mayors' caucus. Her presentation on the importance of energy efficiency to local governments was locked in her computer. She was among the disappeared from the National Renewable Energy Laboratory in Golden, where 31 workers were dismissed seven days after President Bush read the words addicted to oil off the teleprompter and announced yet another Advanced Energy Initiative. It was a week to the day after the State of the Union, Tombari said. The single mother of three with a son in college was given one month's severance pay. I can understand budget cuts. I can understand realigning the mission at NREL. But being treated like a corporate saboteur, that was rough, said Tombari, who has worked in energy policy for more than 25 years. John Thornton, an engineer and 28-year veteran at NREL, is another casualty of the post-State of the Union sweep. He was given until March 31 to get out. You never know with these budgets, said Thornton, who survived an NREL purge during the Reagan administration. Still, the political shenanigans have a crippling impact on research. Projects are abandoned, careers are interrupted, lives are thrown into turmoil. The scientists at NREL have no peer, U.S. Department of Energy spokesman Craig Stevens crowed last week. They also have no job security. Tombari's job was to work with state and local governments to incorporate new technologies into public policies. Before she came to NREL in 1993, she directed the Texas Energy Office for 10 years. I loved my job, she said. Ideally, if I had the money, I would do what I was doing at NREL for free. Those of us who worked at NREL had a real passion for the technology. It's technology so marginalized few Americans even realize it exists. Our current institutions and processes are stacked against emerging energy technologies, Tombari said. Just look at the decades-old techniques available for saving energy in lighting, heating and manufacturing. If they were adopted, Tombari said, they would be virtual power plants, creating enormous volumes of energy by reclaiming what is wasted. Or just look at the collapse of the U.S. auto industry, while Toyota devours market share with its hot hybrids. Ironically, Tombari said, A lot of the hybrid technology was developed right here at NREL - and ignored. Detroit automakers knew how to build fuel-efficient cars; they simply chose not to. As a result, they ceded the technology - and the market - to the Japanese. It's really astounding that the public knows as little as it does about the work that goes on at NREL, said Tombari. I mean, the research is great, but unless it gets into the marketplace, it's a waste. Despite our lack of appreciation for NREL, many of its innovations will continue to find their way into the international marketplace. With high oil and gas prices, there's too much money to be made in alternative energy technologies to stop them. The industry is exploding internationally, said Thornton. While our commitment to developing alternative energy sources in the U.S. too often is just empty rhetoric - greenwashing, Tombari calls it - around the world it's the Holy Grail. There's a tremendous market out there, said Thornton, who hopes to be able to work with his friends at NREL again someday. In the meantime, though, he said not to worry. The former NREL scientists will land on their feet. It's the Advanced Energy Initiative that could be in trouble. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Re: [Biofuel] Plug pulled on renewable energy gurus
Hm. As well as this, posted on the same day: Burning down the library - Bush Axing Libraries While Pushing for More Research - EPA Set to Close Library Network and Electronic Catalog http://snipurl.com/mm1v All in the name of sound science I suppose. Strange how fossil-friendly sound science so often turns out to be. Best Keith Yeah. I knew several people who got canned there last week. This week I tried calling my former boss from when I worked there and found he had been deleted from the system. My roommate who works with Carol and John mentioned in the article managed to keep his job for this round, although he is taking a month or two of unpaid furlough. The worst thing is that these people will not have too hard of a time getting new jobs -- the PV industry is exploding here. But NREL will have lost all their experienced people, and next year when (if) the budget goes back up as Bush promised, it will take 10 years to rebuild the research programs and train new people. Zeke On 2/15/06, Michael Redler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Published on 14 Feb 2006 by Denver Post. Archived on 15 Feb 2006. http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_3506521 Plug pulled on renewable energy gurus by Diane Carman The day Carol Tombari got fired plays in her head like a scene from a cheesy espionage thriller. She arrived at work and was told to appear at a mandatory meeting in 20 minutes. It was there that she learned she was being laid off and that she had five hours to pack and vacate the premises. When she returned to her desk, her computer had been disabled, her phone service cut. She had to cancel an appearance the next day at a regional mayors' caucus. Her presentation on the importance of energy efficiency to local governments was locked in her computer. She was among the disappeared from the National Renewable Energy Laboratory in Golden, where 31 workers were dismissed seven days after President Bush read the words addicted to oil off the teleprompter and announced yet another Advanced Energy Initiative. It was a week to the day after the State of the Union, Tombari said. The single mother of three with a son in college was given one month's severance pay. I can understand budget cuts. I can understand realigning the mission at NREL. But being treated like a corporate saboteur, that was rough, said Tombari, who has worked in energy policy for more than 25 years. John Thornton, an engineer and 28-year veteran at NREL, is another casualty of the post-State of the Union sweep. He was given until March 31 to get out. You never know with these budgets, said Thornton, who survived an NREL purge during the Reagan administration. Still, the political shenanigans have a crippling impact on research. Projects are abandoned, careers are interrupted, lives are thrown into turmoil. The scientists at NREL have no peer, U.S. Department of Energy spokesman Craig Stevens crowed last week. They also have no job security. Tombari's job was to work with state and local governments to incorporate new technologies into public policies. Before she came to NREL in 1993, she directed the Texas Energy Office for 10 years. I loved my job, she said. Ideally, if I had the money, I would do what I was doing at NREL for free. Those of us who worked at NREL had a real passion for the technology. It's technology so marginalized few Americans even realize it exists. Our current institutions and processes are stacked against emerging energy technologies, Tombari said. Just look at the decades-old techniques available for saving energy in lighting, heating and manufacturing. If they were adopted, Tombari said, they would be virtual power plants, creating enormous volumes of energy by reclaiming what is wasted. Or just look at the collapse of the U.S. auto industry, while Toyota devours market share with its hot hybrids. Ironically, Tombari said, A lot of the hybrid technology was developed right here at NREL - and ignored. Detroit automakers knew how to build fuel-efficient cars; they simply chose not to. As a result, they ceded the technology - and the market - to the Japanese. It's really astounding that the public knows as little as it does about the work that goes on at NREL, said Tombari. I mean, the research is great, but unless it gets into the marketplace, it's a waste. Despite our lack of appreciation for NREL, many of its innovations will continue to find their way into the international marketplace. With high oil and gas prices, there's too much money to be made in alternative energy technologies to stop them. The industry is exploding internationally, said Thornton. While our commitment to developing alternative energy sources in the U.S. too often is just empty rhetoric - greenwashing, Tombari calls it - around the world it's the Holy Grail.
Re: [Biofuel] Trying to produce biodiesel in laboratory scale
Hello Dennis Don't you mean sodium methylate? Best Keith One thing I've never seen mentioned is using sodium methoxide from a company such as BASF. I am using it in lab work and find it very convenient. It is water-free and about 25% in methanol. Take a look at this web page http://www.basf.com/businesses/chemicals/alcoholates/biodiesel/index .htmlhttp://www.basf.com/businesses/chemicals/alcoholates/biodiesel/i ndex.html I do not know what the cost would be in the quantities you would use. Btw BASF is very large and it is likely to be available in many countries. Dennis - Original Message - From: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Duarte Nuno Januário To: mailto:Biofuel@sustainablelists.orgBiofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 6:02 PM Subject: [Biofuel] Trying to produce biodiesel in laboratory scale Hi all! Ive been trying (made 5 batches) to produce biodiesel in a laboratory, for educational purposes. This is what Ive been doing: snip ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Trying to produce biodiesel in laboratory scale
Hi Duarte I do get a clear phase separation after 24 hours, but my biodiesel isnt crystal clear. It really doesn't matter much, or it doesn't matter at all. See, eg.: Allow to settle for 12-24 hours. Darker-coloured glycerine by-product will collect in a distinct layer at the bottom of the bottle, with a clear line of separation from the pale liquid above, which is the biodiesel. The biodiesel varies somewhat in colour according to the oil used (and so does the by-product layer at the bottom) but usually it's pale and yellowish (used-oil biodiesel can be darker and more amber). The biodiesel might be clear or it might still be cloudy, which is not a problem. It will clear eventually but there's no need to wait. -- Make your first test batch -- 5. Settling http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_make.html#biodnew When I mix a sample of the unwashed biodiesel with water and shake it, the emulsion wont separate. It will after some hours, but with a lot of soap formation, widespread in the container. Poor process completion. See Emulsions: http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_bubblewash.html#emulsion IMHO the lye seems to be your problem. - Prepared the sodium metoxide by stirring for 24 hours (magnetic stirrer) in an closed Erlenmeyer And: There one thing I should say: I never got all the sodium hydroxide to completely dissolve in the methanol. No matter how long I keep stirring, it simply wont dissolve quantitatively. But I do filtrate the remains of solid hydroxide. Do you think this can be the problem? How can I solve it? If you read this, 3. Mixing the methoxide, here: http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_make.html#methmix it says: If you swirl it thoroughly for a minute or so five or six times over a period of time the lye will completely dissolve in the methanol, forming sodium methoxide or potassium methoxide. As soon as the liquid is clear with no undissolved particles you can begin the process. The more you swirl the container the faster the lye will dissolve. With NaOH it can take from overnight to a few hours to as little as half-an-hour with lots of swirling (but don't be impatient, wait for ALL the lye to dissolve). Mixing KOH is much faster, it dissolves in the methanol more easily than NaOH and can be ready for use in 10 minutes. But you stirred it for 24 hours and it still didn't dissolve. In other words it's not pure sodium hydroxide, or not any more. The other variables are the purity of the methanol (99%+), temperature maintenance, the amount and duration of agitation, which varies from mixer to mixer, and your technique, which also varies from (human) mixer to mixer. The supermarket oil is very likely to be standard. The sodium hydroxide is the most likely cause. (But keep fine-tuning everything else too!) So change the catalyst. Don't get more sodium hydroxide, get potassium hydroxide instead, KOH, it's a much better catalyst than sodium hydroxide. For how much to use see Make your first test batch - 2. Lye -- How much to use. http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_make.html#biodnew Then try the wash test again. Have another read of this: What should you do if your fuel doesn't pass the wash-test? http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_vehicle.html#whatdo Perseverance furthers. Your Biofuel hexagram for today. :-) Best wishes Keith Hi all! Ive been trying (made 5 batches) to produce biodiesel in a laboratory, for educational purposes. This is what Ive been doing: - 1 liter of virgin oil from supermarket - 200 mL of methanol - 3,5 grams of sodium hydroxide - Prepared the sodium metoxide by stirring for 24 hours (magnetic stirrer) in an closed Erlenmeyer - Preheated the oil to 55ºC - Using a flask with an attached Liebig condenser (to prevent methanol vapors to escape), mixed vigorously for 1 hour maintaining agitation and constant temperature (eventually drops to 52ºC when the metoxide is added) and maybe rising to a maximum of 60ºC at some instants. I do get a clear phase separation after 24 hours, but my biodiesel isnt crystal clear. When I mix a sample of the unwashed biodiesel with water and shake it, the emulsion wont separate . It will after some hours, but with a lot of soap formation, widespread in the container. Im using good reactants (not p.a. but trustworthy) and anhydrous conditions. There one thing I should say: I never got all the sodium hydroxide to completely dissolve in the methanol. No matter how long I keep stirring, it simply wont dissolve quantitatively. But I do filtrate the remains of solid hydroxide. Do you think this can be the problem? How can I solve it? What can I be doing wrong? Why do I keep getting all this soap? Where do you think the problem might be? In a reactant? Bad quality oil? Do you think I should titrate the virgin oil? Thank you all for your attention Duarte Nuno
Re: [Biofuel] Trying to produce biodiesel in laboratory scale
One thing I've never seen mentioned is using sodium methoxide from a company such as BASF. I am using it in lab work and find it very convenient. It is water-free and about 25% in methanol. Take a look at this web page http://www.basf.com/businesses/chemicals/alcoholates/biodiesel/index.html I do not know what the cost would be in the quantities you would use. Btw BASF is very large and it is likely to be available in many countries. Dennis - Original Message - From: Duarte Nuno Januário To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 6:02 PM Subject: [Biofuel] Trying to produce biodiesel in laboratory scale Hi all! Ive been trying (made 5 batches) to produce biodiesel in a laboratory, for educational purposes. This is what Ive been doing: - 1 liter of virgin oil from supermarket - 200 mL of methanol - 3,5 grams of sodium hydroxide - Prepared the sodium metoxide by stirring for 24 hours (magnetic stirrer) in an closed Erlenmeyer - Preheated the oil to 55ºC - Using a flask with an attached Liebig condenser (to prevent methanol vapors to escape), mixed vigorously for 1 hour maintaining agitation and constant temperature (eventually drops to 52ºC when the metoxide is added) and maybe rising to a maximum of 60ºC at some instants. I do get a clear phase separation after 24 hours, but my biodiesel isnt crystal clear. When I mix a sample of the unwashed biodiesel with water and shake it, the emulsion wont separate . It will after some hours, but with a lot of soap formation, widespread in the container. Im using good reactants (not p.a. but trustworthy) and anhydrous conditions. There one thing I should say: I never got all the sodium hydroxide to completely dissolve in the methanol. No matter how long I keep stirring, it simply wont dissolve quantitatively. But I do filtrate the remains of solid hydroxide. Do you think this can be the problem? How can I solve it? What can I be doing wrong? Why do I keep getting all this soap? Where do you think the problem might be? In a reactant? Bad quality oil? Do you think I should titrate the virgin oil? Thank you all for your attention Duarte Nuno ___Biofuel mailing listBiofuel@sustainablelists.orghttp://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.orgBiofuel at Journey to Forever:http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.htmlSearch the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages):http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Trying to produce biodiesel in laboratory scale
Dear Duarte, The basic reaction you are doing is a nucleophilic reaction were the methoxide replaces the glycerine in the fatty acid. So you get free methylstearates (if the oil have stearic acid). This substances called methyl-Stearates or Linoleates arethe Biodiesel. Now, I have some questions What kind of methanol do you use, absolut? Try using a 96% instead and add some water to it 20 ml. It must be ready for use in 1 hour and is far less toxic than the absolut. WhatI see is the following. The non reacted glicerine still have someunreacted portions whichact as emulsifiers and do emusify somepolar phase in the biodiesel. Once you separate the upper phaseadd more methoxide and separate again. Must be much clearer. Try rinsing with alkaline water too. - Original Message - From: Duarte Nuno Januário To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 8:02 PM Subject: [Biofuel] Trying to produce biodiesel in laboratory scale Hi all! Ive been trying (made 5 batches) to produce biodiesel in a laboratory, for educational purposes. This is what Ive been doing: - 1 liter of virgin oil from supermarket - 200 mL of methanol - 3,5 grams of sodium hydroxide - Prepared the sodium metoxide by stirring for 24 hours (magnetic stirrer) in an closed Erlenmeyer - Preheated the oil to 55ºC - Using a flask with an attached Liebig condenser (to prevent methanol vapors to escape), mixed vigorously for 1 hour maintaining agitation and constant temperature (eventually drops to 52ºC when the metoxide is added) and maybe rising to a maximum of 60ºC at some instants. I do get a clear phase separation after 24 hours, but my biodiesel isnt crystal clear. When I mix a sample of the unwashed biodiesel with water and shake it, the emulsion wont separate . It will after some hours, but with a lot of soap formation, widespread in the container. Im using good reactants (not p.a. but trustworthy) and anhydrous conditions. There one thing I should say: I never got all the sodium hydroxide to completely dissolve in the methanol. No matter how long I keep stirring, it simply wont dissolve quantitatively. But I do filtrate the remains of solid hydroxide. Do you think this can be the problem? How can I solve it? What can I be doing wrong? Why do I keep getting all this soap? Where do you think the problem might be? In a reactant? Bad quality oil? Do you think I should titrate the virgin oil? Thank you all for your attention Duarte Nuno ___Biofuel mailing listBiofuel@sustainablelists.orghttp://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.orgBiofuel at Journey to Forever:http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.htmlSearch the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages):http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ Visita www.tutopia.com y comienza a navegar ms rpido en Internet. Tutopia es Internet para todos. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Cross Posted: Mercury Levels Rising: Report Release
You mean vanilla or vanillin? Commercially is also available ethylvanillin. Remarkable idea!!! - Original Message - From: Garth Kim Travis To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 10:38 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Cross Posted: Mercury Levels Rising: Report Release Greetings,We have found that real vanilla, mixed 1/2 1/2 with water and sprayed on skin is extremely effective against mesquitos here in Texas. It is possible to buy clear vanilla from Mexico so you don't stain your clothes. It also smells much nicer than bacon grease. Might help with the babe problem, as well.Bright Blessings,KimAt 08:08 AM 2/15/2006, you wrote: BTW and this is a little off topic as well but while we're on the natural remedies subject I've also found that rubbing bacon grease all over myself and my tent is very effective against mosquitos when I'm travelling in bear country. It's not a babe magnet either :( It doesn't polarise fuel either:( I guess I'm not being too helpful. :(JoeMichael Redler wrote: One remedy for heavy metals does not a babe-magnet make.:-)MikeTom Irwin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Mike and All, I'm increasing my garlic intake. It seems that one of the compounds in garlic acts as a chelating agent for heavy metals. I don't know if it will catch mercury but it is supposed to be fairly effective for lead. Tom Irwin From: Mike McGinness [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] To: Sent: Sun, 12 Feb 2006 13:54:55 -0300 Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Cross Posted: Mercury Levels Rising: Report Release The mercury in vaccines and flu shots has been reduced 99.9% from what it was a few years ago (I researched this a few months ago for a recent booster shot) if you get the right supplier!! BUT, Ask to see the paper work first for the actual vial being used!! I found that out while dealing with the local County Health Clinic dispensing the Vaccines recently. Of course that begs the next question of what toxin they replaced the mercury with to keep the vaccine and flu shots sterile and presumably safe! Mike McGinness Margo wrote: Mercury seems to be in the vaccines as well, including flu shots. I don't know what the answer is, but there must be a better answer than some of the things we humans have come up with so far. I still think the natural food industry has a lot to contribute in this area. Young Living has some very interesting information in some of their latest studies. - Original Message - From: "Mike McGinness" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2006 4:48 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Cross Posted: Mercury Levels Rising: Report Release In regards to mercury emissions from burning coal and my prior comments: I almost forgot the really big, big BIG issue. All silver colored dental fillings are currently still made from mercury amalgam metal alloy (50% raw mercury!!!) according to my local dentist Therefore, We are probably the single largest unregulated source of mercury emissions in the environment! Thanks to the FDA! Mike McGinness ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___Biofuel mailing listBiofuel@sustainablelists.orghttp://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever:http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.htmlSearch the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages):http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___Biofuel mailing listBiofuel@sustainablelists.orghttp://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.orgBiofuel at Journey to Forever:http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.htmlSearch the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000
Re: [Biofuel] Trying to produce biodiesel in laboratory scale
Hi, I am trying to construct a similar setup. How do you actually use the Liebig condensor to pickup the methanol gas? I have never used that piece of equipment before. Do you have a picture of the setup or diagram you can send me? Thanks! - JaredOn 2/15/06, Duarte Nuno Januário [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all! I've been trying (made 5 batches) to produce biodiesel in a laboratory, for educational purposes. This is what I've been doing: - 1 liter of virgin oil from supermarket - 200 mL of methanol - 3,5 grams of sodium hydroxide - Prepared the sodium metoxide by stirring for 24 hours (magnetic stirrer) in an closed Erlenmeyer - Preheated the oil to 55ºC - Using a flask with an attached Liebig condenser (to prevent methanol vapors to escape), mixed vigorously for 1 hour maintaining agitation and constant temperature (eventually drops to 52ºC when the metoxide is added) and maybe rising to a maximum of 60ºC at some instants. I do get a clear phase separation after 24 hours, but my biodiesel isn't crystal clear. When I mix a sample of the unwashed biodiesel with water and shake it, the emulsion won't separate…. It will after some hours, but with a lot of soap formation, widespread in the container. I'm using good reactants (not p.a. but trustworthy) and anhydrous conditions. There one thing I should say: I never got all the sodium hydroxide to completely dissolve in the methanol. No matter how long I keep stirring, it simply won't dissolve quantitatively. But I do filtrate the remains of solid hydroxide. Do you think this can be the problem? How can I solve it? What can I be doing wrong? Why do I keep getting all this soap? Where do you think the problem might be? In a reactant? Bad quality oil? Do you think I should titrate the virgin oil? Thank you all for your attention Duarte Nuno ___Biofuel mailing listBiofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.orgBiofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.htmlSearch the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/-- http://www.xbtz.org http://www.rogueoperator.netstream: http://www.xbtz.org:8000/listen.plsstream2: http://www.xbtz.org:8002/listen.pls 24x7 streams with live shows ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
