[Biofuel] The Age of Autism: Hot potato on the Hill
Autism is probably going to be found, in much lesser numbers, in kids who've never been vaccinated. Mercury is in fish, in the flesh of grass fed cows, etc. It spews out by the tons every month from the stacks of power generating plants, city incinerators, etc. So, everyone is exposed to this toxin, whether vaccinated or not. Directly injecting an infant with thimerosal laden vaccines is criminal. The baby has no say in the matter, and most parents think doctors always know best. It seems to me that the coverup is on because no vaccine producer wants to be hit with multi-billion dollar lawsuits. The same song is being played wrt aspartame, pesticides, MSG, etc. See MCS (Multiple Chemical Sensitivity) People are Becoming the New Homeless athttp://www.emagazine.com/view/?1003 and the Bill Moyers interview, Are We Poisoning our Children?at http://www.pbs.org/now/transcript/transcript117_full.html See too, We're poisoning our kids, toxins report says at: http://archives.cnn.com/2000/NATURE/09/11/toxin.report.enn/index.html Peace, D. Mindock = The Age of Autism: Hot potato on the Hill By DAN OLMSTED The newly proposed legislation to study the autism rate in never-vaccinated American kids could settle the debate over vaccines and autism once and for all. Does that mean it will never happen? This week U.S. Rep. Carolyn Maloney, D-N.Y., stepped out front on the issue. She announced at a briefing at the National Press Club that she is drafting legislation to mandate that the federal government find the answer to that question. Notice the word "mandate" -- as in "direct," which is the language the bill uses. As in, quit making excuses and just do it. Bureaucrats and lobbyists and "experts" sometimes forget that the power in this country resides with the people, who express their will through their elected representatives. This may sound rather grand, but the point is that legislators are not some "special interest" who must be humored while the permanent ruling class goes on its merry way. That's why putting a bill before the Congress -- which Maloney says she will do by the end of April after getting as much public comment as possible -- could be a bigger threat than people realize. After all, as Maloney said this week, "Maybe someone in the medical establishment will show me why this study is a bad idea, but they haven't done it yet." Maloney, who credits this column with the idea to look at the never-vaccinated, also critiqued the studies that supposedly have ruled out any link between vaccines -- particularly the mercury-based preservative thimerosal -- and autism. "The one major government study to date, the Institute of Medicine's 2004 review, has been met with skepticism from a lot of people," she said. "There are serious questions about the data set and methodology. "Meanwhile, there is new biological evidence published in top journals, and from major U.S. universities, to support the mercury-autism hypothesis. Just last week we saw the study out of UC Davis, which found that thimerosal disrupts normal biological signals within cells, causes inflammation and even cell death. "In short," the congresswoman concluded, "I believe that there are still more questions than answers. But answers are what we desperately need." Surely everyone's in favor of answers, aren't they? Well, no, they're not. Already, doubts are being raised about whether there are enough never-vaccinated kids to do such a study (there are); whether it's worth doing (it is); and what the results would really show (well, let's find out). In fact, if the feds hadn't been contentedly dozing for the last decade as the autism rate inexplicably soared, we'd already have our answer. Back in 2002 a woman named Sandy Gottstein, who does not even have an affected child, came all the way from Anchorage, Alaska, to raise this issue at a congressional hearing. "My question is, is the National Institutes of Health ever planning on doing a study using the only proper control group, that is, never-vaccinated children?" Gottstein asked. Dr. Steve Foote of NIH responded: "I am not aware of a proposed study to use a suitably constructed group of never-vaccinated children. ... Now CDC would be more likely perhaps to be aware of such an opportunity." Responded Dr. Melinda Wharton of the CDC: "The difficulty with doing such a study in the United States, of course, is that a very small portion of children have never received any vaccines, and these children probably differ in other ways from vaccinated children. So performing such a study would, in fact, be quite difficult." Another futile effort is recounted in David Kirby's book, "Evidence of Harm," which recounts parents' compelling stories that their children's regressive autism was triggered by vaccine reactions. The book -- just out in paperback and winner of this year's prize from the
Re: [Biofuel] glycerine uses and other fancy stuff.
You mean I can't just do like Google? No wonder I'm not having any luck! No substitute for tunnel vision, eh? :-) Google's quite a good substitute for tunnel vision. LOL! Google and the list archives both use a simple search, though Google does some other things with it too, but the big difference is that Google ranks the results for you according to various criteria such as how popular a site is, how many other sites link to it and so on. So what I said about using search terms that are too general doesn't apply, Google sorts that out for you, to an extent anyway. Ordinary search engines don't do that, there's no ranking of hits, so a vague search gets vague results. Still, if you develop better search techniques you'll get better results at Google too. Best Keith It just seems like a waste to simply flush anything that may have a use. Is anybody willing to talk about the ammonia process to make the mulch additive? Greg Kelly ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Recent PBS report Persons of Interest TALON program - US AirForce
Indeed Todd, time will tell, we'll see. Best Keith Well Keith, maybe you're right and maybe you're not. Same can be said for maybe me or maybe not. Not going to take the wind out of anyone's sails, just that nothing is proving to be certain anymore other than craziness abounds and seems to mulitply with ferver. One thing I do know is that as a whole humans can be trained to the point that they jump through the hoops long before it dawns on them to ask why they're jumping. They also forget quickly and their wounds are easily salved. And then there's the self-interest angle. A thorn always hurts a lot worse when it's your foot rather than your neighbor's. All of this allows for the continual ebb and flow of debasing and corrupt activities. Right now the US is either in one helluva an ebb or one helluva flow. In either event, one camp is expecting that they can inundate the rest of the world with their soggy cow flop for long enough that they eventually get used to it and just go along for the ride from there on out. Seriously, just take a look at the Nixon/Clinton/Bush analogy. Nixon but lied after the fact and faced the probability of being impeached. Clinton lied after the fact and faced impeachment. Bush lies before, during and after the fact in venue after venue and the frigging so-called conservatives rally like a billionaire father who bails out his hellion son time in and time out. About the closest thing to impeachment that spoiled brat will ever face is Haley Barber serving him up a bowl of sliced peaches and cream at a re-election fund raiser. Sure, I believe that everyone is rather well fed up. Even my radical, right-wing, ultra-conservative, white, Anglo-Saxon, protestant neighbors are speaking up. But it's as fair a bet as any that the sheeple have been tamed, enough so that they only bahhh once in a while and don't much put thought into action. It's going to take a few more catastrophic bumps in the road to cause the majority enough pain that they actually kick a little ass rather than just harumph along with their morning coffee, newspaper and donut. We'll see. More needless deaths. More lies. More distortion. More irresponsibility. Maybe the majority will finally come to grips with the fact hat they have to become more than single issue voters. Maybe they'll start to understand that humanity is a bit more varied and non-forumlaic than canned tuna, sardines and squid, each in their own container. Then again, maybe not. Todd Swearingen Keith Addison wrote: Hi Todd I don't think so, lots of people don't think so. I said why I don't think so a couple of days ago, here: http://snipurl.com/ogs0 [Biofuel] Fw: How To Steal an Election Sure, what you're seeing is there, but it's not the only thing that's there. One thing that'll wake people up right quickly is when they suddenly discover they've been squeezed out the bottom end of the economic alimentary canal and just can't make it anymore now matter how hard they work, Great American Dream or not. That is happening to a hell of a lot of people as the goalposts move ever higher, there are current news reports about it. Add that to the revelations of poverty that came with Katrina, which forced people to notice what had been right under their noses all the time, and a lot of folks who'd been feeling smug and safe and who cares as long as it's not happening to them suddenly felt much less smug and not very safe either. Two of many factors that are coming together to make the represented a lot more aware and much less somnambulistic and accepting. My personal belief? It's a bit worse than just government ala fast-food style. It's becoming more akin to a force-fed, intravaneous, morphine-drip, that leaves the majority of the population in a stupor that they won't ever be able to crawl out of. Have another look Todd. There's change afoot, it's been increasingly noticeable for a couple of months now. Well, since Katrina actually, that seems to have been the tipping point. The question isn't whether it's happening or not but whether it'll go far enough or not. Best Keith Keith, Why do you think that representative government works so well..., or at least the illusion of representative government? They're like the fast food drive-thru. For the represented (Not!), it's fabricated to remove the mess from the sight of the masses. There are no dishes to clean and no food to prep. As long as there's enough coin in the purse to pay for the purchase and all the rest of the bills are paid at the end of the month, what need is there to worry? And about the only way the represented would ever know if there wasn't enough coin at the end of the day is if the collections department started calling their homes six or eight times daily threatening a fate worse than death - the loss of their personal credit. Aahh! But since this doesn't
Re: [Biofuel] Grass Bioenergy
Good point. Not very. Remember the ex-convict in Shawshanks Redemption who couldn't take freedom and hanged himself? Are you suggesting we should accept limitations like this? Or even take due account of it in our own lives, or in our efforts to build a more sustainable world? This what we're talking about, remember: Actually there are already plans to cultivate grass as energy fuel. But dedicated cultivation is not always the best solution. I mean, if we can simply harvest grass from waste land or unoccupied land, that will be making good use of waste! In nature there is no such thing as waste, that's a human invention and it doesn't have much of a future. Are we going to risk denuding or destroying any land we might happen to think is not useful to us in our cocoons? I like living in nature a bit more (now that spring is here, I'm moving out of my rented place in town, and back up to my school bus in the mountains near the creek). But I know alot of people who can't stand being deprived of running water, central heating, flush toilets, etc It's sort of funny seeing the city people who move up to Ward (a rather odd mountain town here, where half the houses still don't have running water, though most have grid electricity), and run screaming back to town within a few months :) Jumping in at the deep end isn't the best way for everyone, they might do better with a few swimming lessons first. It's not easy to change your ways when it's what you've been used to all your life, but it's not impossible either. Maybe the people you talk of had foolish dreams of Arcadia, but would you say the impetus behind the dream is foolish? Same as yours, isn't it? They went about it wrong, that's all. Z On 3/31/06, Rexis Tree [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I somehow disagree that we human being as a part of the biosphere, most human have to live in their own human biosphere where they will remove everything that irritates them. They're just going to have to learn, because it's not just them, their choices have a negative impact on others and on everybody. If you throw a city person into a jungle, how long he could survive! Long ago I sometimes used to ask myself that about people, when it seemed an apt question. There's a region in South Africa called the Wild Coast, well named, you could lose an army there. I'd ask myself how long this person would last if you dumped them in the middle of the Wild Coast by helicopter and just left them there with nothing. I knew it was a very unfair question, why should anyone have to pass such a test? It told me quite a lot about them though, but in a few cases my answer of 10 minutes or whatever was quite wrong, those people turned out to be much more capable than they at first appeared, more capable than they themselves knew. But some of the tough ones went down. You never can tell. Just like you put a wild animal in the middle of the city. There are plenty of wild animals living happily in the middle of cities. Nature doesn't just stop at the city borders, it goes straight through. It doesn't stop at your skin either. Most of us are not that compatible with the nature. Most of the people in the world now still live closer to nature than not, they never left it in the first place, and most of them don't want to leave it either, they usually have to be forced (impoverished or dispossessed). Nature isn't just all that green stuff out there full of inconvenience and other wild beasts, it's the nature of everything, including you. If you're a stranger to nature you're a stranger to yourself. How many gardeners and city farmers in your city? Are there any movements to green your city? Rooftop gardens are excellent and they save energy. If you planted jatropha and moringa trees along the streets and the rail lines and so on they'd look great and help the air-pollution and maybe you could make enough biodiesel to run the buses. In case you jump to the wrong conclusion I'm a city boy born and bred, I spent my first 25 years in cities and another 11 scattered years in cities since then, and 24 years not in cities. But I've never been cut off from nature, or incompatible with nature, or not for long. Best Keith ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] New England Area
AJ,Where in New England are you. I'm in Vermont.[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, is there anyone in the New England area that would be willing to talk to me face to face so that I can learn a little more about setting up a BD system at home and just general BD questions...maybe we could talk about it over another processed renewable beverage or 2-3-4-ish...thanksAj Gimpelson___Biofuel mailing listBiofuel@sustainablelists.orghttp://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.orgBiofuel at Journey to Forever:http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.htmlSearch the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages):http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/Wildbill Sutton.VT New Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC and save big.___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Fwd: Some help needed in Kansas
Can anyone give John a helping hand? Please contact him direct, he's not a list member: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks much! Keith From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: JOHN HOGAN CALING FROM KANSAS Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 10:08:57 -0600 Good Morning Keith Sir. I am John Hogan a senior living on a small farm just outside Topeka, Kansas. I just found this web siite about bio diesel. I live on a farm and am slightly handicapped. I was wondering if there is anyone of the folks that subscribed to this bio diesel thing that might be close where I could maybe get them to give this old man some advise and help. I know your very busy, so if you don't get the time to answer this e mail - I will understand. Thank You John Hogan - Tecumseh, Kansas ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Grass Bioenergy
HI Bob, The turf we looked at in Ireland is a very early stage of browncoal, and yes its a more solid state than hay or grass, greetings Martin- Original Message From: Bob Molloy [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.orgSent: Saturday, April 1, 2006 6:39:47 AMSubject: Re: [Biofuel] Grass Bioenergy No Martin, turf as in sportsground surface may be pressed grass but turf a la the Emerald Isle (dunno 'bout Russia) is very definitely not.It is the early stages of coal, in fact it is a brown coal. To describe coal as pressed grass is stretching the category a bit, by a few millions years I'd guess. Regards, Bob. - Original Message - From: martin roozenburg To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 8:12 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Grass Bioenergy In Europe a lot of the energy plants use TURF which is of course pressed grass, (Ireland Russia) in Scandinavia they use in threre roastbedfurnace pellets comming from Holland made from waste; chopped plastic, textile, wood,paper, board, etc, (solid fuel) these pellets reach the calloric value of coal and are replacing the coal in the furnace. greetings Martin Roozenburg- Original Message From: Don Wells [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.orgSent: Friday, March 31, 2006 7:26:16 AMSubject: Re: [Biofuel] Grass BioenergyTony Marzolino wrote: Tony Marzolino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone have any additional information on grass as a bio-fuel and the conversion into pellets as the site below suggests? The site does not have much detail information (capital investment, process, market, etc). It looks interesting!!! Any thoughts? http://www.grassbioenergy.org/ The best thing about this Cornell web site is the 'Demonstration' page, which summarizes a set of experiments with burning grass pellets in various real stoves and furnaces. The issue involved is the fairly high ash content of cool season grass. Canadians have researched this subject of burning grass pellets. Do a Google search on "switchgrass pellet stoves canada" and you will find some of their web pages.You should be aware that grass is being burned in some coal-fired electric power plants. Up to 10% grass is burned with the coal. Currently a power plant near Ottumwa, Iowa is running a trial of this idea; they burn 2.5% switchgrass, in the form of big bales. I am aware of another power plant project which will use pellets. -Don Wells-Inline Attachment Follows- begin:vcardfn:Don Wellsn:Wells;Donadr:;;;Charlottesville;VA;;USAemail;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED]tel;cell:+1-434-962-3363url:http://home.earthlink.net/~dwellscho/version:2.1end:vcard ___Biofuel mailing listBiofuel@sustainablelists.orghttp://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.orgBiofuel at Journey to Forever:http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.htmlSearch the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages):http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___Biofuel mailing listBiofuel@sustainablelists.orghttp://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.orgBiofuel at Journey to Forever:http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.htmlSearch the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages):http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___Biofuel mailing listBiofuel@sustainablelists.orghttp://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.orgBiofuel at Journey to Forever:http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.htmlSearch the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages):http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Grass Bioenergy
Hear about the Coyotes running around in NYC's Central Park? Hal, the coyote, in Central Park http://www.philly.com/mld/inquirer/news/special_packages/sunday_review/14186236.htm I disagree that it's a problem, but of course the cops had to chase him for 3+ days...Don't worry there are more...It wasn't just Wile E Coyote that was wily, they all are. I do agree with Keith that we all live in nature whether it's an asphalt jungle or the Amazon basin. The town I live in (Summerville, SC) is a suburban jungle, where many people have gardens, chickens and goats. I can walk to a horse or cow pasture in 5 minutes. There are foxes and rabbits living among us. The bunnies especially like to hide in all the Azaleas. Not that we don't have Walmart and mcmansions, but I think we've always been a green town. We have coyotes in South Carolina because they've gone nationwide. http://www.dnr.sc.gov/wildlife/coyote/index.html and I'm sure I've seen several. As well as Carolina Dogs or The American Dingo http://www.carolinadogs.com/ which are amazing dogs. A friend of mine found one and he later realized that he was a carolina dog. On 4/1/06, Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good point. Not very. Remember the ex-convict in Shawshanks Redemption who couldn't take freedom and hanged himself? Are you suggesting we should accept limitations like this? Or even take due account of it in our own lives, or in our efforts to build a more sustainable world? This what we're talking about, remember: Actually there are already plans to cultivate grass as energy fuel. But dedicated cultivation is not always the best solution. I mean, if we can simply harvest grass from waste land or unoccupied land, that will be making good use of waste! In nature there is no such thing as waste, that's a human invention and it doesn't have much of a future. Are we going to risk denuding or destroying any land we might happen to think is not useful to us in our cocoons? I like living in nature a bit more (now that spring is here, I'm moving out of my rented place in town, and back up to my school bus in the mountains near the creek). But I know alot of people who can't stand being deprived of running water, central heating, flush toilets, etc It's sort of funny seeing the city people who move up to Ward (a rather odd mountain town here, where half the houses still don't have running water, though most have grid electricity), and run screaming back to town within a few months :) Jumping in at the deep end isn't the best way for everyone, they might do better with a few swimming lessons first. It's not easy to change your ways when it's what you've been used to all your life, but it's not impossible either. Maybe the people you talk of had foolish dreams of Arcadia, but would you say the impetus behind the dream is foolish? Same as yours, isn't it? They went about it wrong, that's all. Z On 3/31/06, Rexis Tree [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I somehow disagree that we human being as a part of the biosphere, most human have to live in their own human biosphere where they will remove everything that irritates them. They're just going to have to learn, because it's not just them, their choices have a negative impact on others and on everybody. If you throw a city person into a jungle, how long he could survive! Long ago I sometimes used to ask myself that about people, when it seemed an apt question. There's a region in South Africa called the Wild Coast, well named, you could lose an army there. I'd ask myself how long this person would last if you dumped them in the middle of the Wild Coast by helicopter and just left them there with nothing. I knew it was a very unfair question, why should anyone have to pass such a test? It told me quite a lot about them though, but in a few cases my answer of 10 minutes or whatever was quite wrong, those people turned out to be much more capable than they at first appeared, more capable than they themselves knew. But some of the tough ones went down. You never can tell. Just like you put a wild animal in the middle of the city. There are plenty of wild animals living happily in the middle of cities. Nature doesn't just stop at the city borders, it goes straight through. It doesn't stop at your skin either. Most of us are not that compatible with the nature. Most of the people in the world now still live closer to nature than not, they never left it in the first place, and most of them don't want to leave it either, they usually have to be forced (impoverished or dispossessed). Nature isn't just all that green stuff out there full of inconvenience and other wild beasts, it's the nature of everything, including you. If you're a stranger to nature you're a stranger to yourself. How many gardeners and city farmers in your city? Are there any movements to green your city? Rooftop gardens are excellent and they
Re: [Biofuel] oil burners
There is a list on yahoo that has covered this very thourougly - I think it is altfurnace? Just about any oil furnace will burn good BD but many pumps have rubber parts. -Mike -Mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i am researching oil furnaces to use bio diesel to heat the house. does anybody know oil burner manufactures that make burners able to burn BD without upgrades? r. allison ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] glycerine uses and other fancy stuff.
Greg,
On 4/1/06 you asked:
"Is anybody willing to talk about the ammonia process to make the mulch
additive?"
Here's my take on
it.
The glycerin mix that we
drain from the BD contains Glycerin, Fatty Acids (as soaps?) Methanol, and
Lye.
The mix can be
cracked (see JtF) using Phosphoric Acid. This settles distinct layers:
Fatty Acids, Crude Glycerin (with the methanol), and a salt composed of
either
Potassium Phosphate or Sodium Phosphate (depending
on whether you used KOH or NaOH as your catalyst). The phosphate coming from the
phosphoric acid.
As I understand it,
good separation requires acid conditions hence excess H ions (+)and
phosphate ions (-). By neutralizing w. ammonia {ammonia in water forms ammonium
ions(+) and hydroxide ions (-)} the Hydrogen ions combine w.
the hydroxide ions to form water (neutralization) and the ammonium ions combine
w. the phosphate ions to form ammonium phosphate.
In the next few days I
will be experimenting w. the process. I plan to draw off the mineral salts,
dissolve them in water. If acid, will neutralize w. dilute ammonia and spray on
a compost pile as I build it.
Will let you know how it goes.
Tom
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Subject: [Biofuel] glycerine uses and
other fancy stuff.
You mean I can't just do like Google? No wonder I'm not having any luck!
No substitute for tunnel vision, eh?
It just seems like a waste to simply flush anything that may have a use.
Is anybody willing to talk about the ammonia process to make the mulch
additive?
Greg Kelly
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Re: [Biofuel] Grass Bioenergy
Jason Katie wrote: Mr. Wells, you are from Iowa? I went to school in Ottumwa at IHCC. No. I am originally from southeastern Texas. I posted because we had a biofuels forum here in Charlottesville,VA on 03-30, and one of the speakers was an engineer of the VA consulting company on the project at Ottumwa, and he showed photos of the facility and described it in detail. However, I have yet another improbable connection to that power plant. In January 2004, two years ago, I and 23 other Virginians drove to Burlington,IA to work for the Howard Dean caucus campaign in southeastern Iowa (the part of Iowa closest to Virginia, shortest drive for us). After we got there part of our team, including me, were asked to go work in Ottumwa, 90min drive west. We did. I and my partner elected to stay for the caucus evening, and we were asked to be poll watchers, and were sent to the precinct meeting in Kirkville, in Wapallo County, to observe the caucus. There were 24 adult voters in that precinct. It was a wonderful experience. That coal-fired power plant is along the road between Ottumwa and Kirkville, and is an impressive sight at night. When I told this story to the engineer, he told me that he was probably present at the power plant that night! -Don begin:vcard fn:Don Wells n:Wells;Don adr:;;;Charlottesville;VA;;USA email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] tel;cell:+1-434-962-3363 url:http://home.earthlink.net/~dwellscho/ version:2.1 end:vcard ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] PBS Green Building show
http://www.buildinggreentv.com/ Apparently PBS is picking up a 13 episode series about building green homes. It hasn't been scheduled yet but is supposed to be this summer. I'll keep my eye out for airdates and should be able to share the episodes. Mike Luich --- Producers Michael Mattioli and Kevin Contreras of Special Finish Films, present Building Green, the PBS home improvement television series about creating gorgeous homes that are healthier, more energy efficient, and better for the environment. Every phase of sustainable construction is presented by host Kevin Contreras, who explores green building from all angles, sharing information and showing lots of in depth, how-to build greener homes. Natural home products and techniques like straw bale building are covered in detail to show the infinite ways to build a healthy house. Segments like Saving Green and Easy Steps show viewers what they can do in real world circumstances to make choices to build green. Buildinggreentv.com is a guide to integrating green building products, services, and other resources into living green. Building Green World Premieres at the Santa Barbara Film Festival! Building Green Goes Mainstream At Building Green we are committed to bringing you the best information on technology, people, products, and ideas to make your home healthier, your life more enjoyable and your footprint lighter on the planet. That is why we are constantly talking to the best and brightest minds in green building, researching the newest inventions, rediscovering ancient techniques, and attending workshops and conferences around the world. We stay informed to keep you informed. Our projected air date is Summer 2006, and we are speaking with the most forward thinking corporations on the planet about joining forces to help bring the American people this vital information. Beyond that we are shooting more footage every week and turning out more episodes. We are pleased and honored to be doing this work to connect people with manufacturers, experts, and like-minded individuals to help create better living and working spaces for each person. We have been inundated by calls from friends like you about Building Green's growing popularity. We are so encouraged to find out about the great work being done around the country and world with respect to green building. Every week we read a new article about how it is becoming mainstream and see that people are ready for the significant changes green building is making our world. American business is learning that it is possible to do well by doing good with economics driving the market towards sustainability, creating positive social and environmental change in the process! Around the world businesses specializing in green products are popping up and doing very well. Architects and builders are becoming greener by the moment. International corporations are realizing that the market is demanding cleaner, greener products and watching that those companies conduct their business in ways that are more environmentally friendly. We want people to know that Building Green is about mindful choices, addressing family health and quality of life issues with every decision made within any given budget. In this case, it definitely is the thought that counts!! What we think, do, and teach shapes the universe in powerfully profound ways beyond our imagination and comprehension. We hope that we can help direct this power to ends that benefit us as a planet, as humans, and as living beings on this earth, stewards of her delicately balanced and integrated beauty, giving back no more than what we take, keeping and honoring that balance with every concious act. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] The Age of Autism: Hot potato on the Hill
D. Mindock wrote: Autism is probably going to be found, in much lesser numbers, in kids who've never been vaccinated. Mercury is in fish, in the flesh of grass fed cows, etc. It spews out by the tons every month from the stacks of power generating plants, city incinerators, etc. So, everyone is exposed to this toxin, whether vaccinated or not. but we're all not autistic, but we're all exposed to Hg, so maybe Hg exposure has nothing to do with autism? Directly injecting an infant with thimerosal laden vaccines is criminal. nonsense, the body of epidemiological data shows little or no correlation with autism and exposure to thimerosal. I'm not promoting Hg exposure, but point out that if one is sincere in finding the cause for autism, that time and money are being wasted barking up the wrong tree. The baby has no say in the matter, and most parents think doctors always know best. It seems to me that the coverup is on because no vaccine producer wants to be hit with multi-billion dollar lawsuits. The same song is being played wrt aspartame, pesticides, MSG, etc. See *MCS (Multiple Chemical Sensitivity) People are Becoming the New Homeless* It would seem reasonable for us all to be sensitive to the needs of individuals with idiosyncratic reactions to various chemicals. But just how much regulation do we need to burden society with? Peanut allergies for a limited number of people can be lethal. Should peanuts be banned? Some are allergic to sulfites, but a little sulfite is a safe and inexpensive way to sterilize the must before fermentation. Should sulfites be banned from all to protect the few? The vast majority of folks are not sensitive to MSG. Should it be banned because some may be sensitive to it? I try to keep risks in perspective. Removing Hg from coal stack emissions is a good idea, but removing thimerosal from vaccines (or not getting vaccinated due to unwarranted fears) or jerking the fillings out peoples mouths is just over the top. at http://www.emagazine.com/view/?1003 and the Bill Moyers interview, *Are We Poisoning our Children*? at http://www.pbs.org/now/transcript/transcript117_full.html See too, *We're poisoning our kids, toxins report says* at: http://archives.cnn.com/2000/NATURE/09/11/toxin.report.enn/index.html Peace, D. Mindock = *The Age of Autism: Hot potato on the Hill* By DAN OLMSTED The newly proposed legislation to study the autism http://www.sciencedaily.com/upi/index.php?feed=Sciencearticle=UPI-1-20060331-16184200-bc-ageofautism.xml# rate in never-vaccinated American kids could settle the debate over vaccines and autism once and for all. Does that mean it will never happen? This week U.S. Rep. Carolyn Maloney, D-N.Y., stepped out front on the issue. She announced at a briefing at the National Press Club that she is drafting legislation to mandate that the federal government http://www.sciencedaily.com/upi/index.php?feed=Sciencearticle=UPI-1-20060331-16184200-bc-ageofautism.xml# find the answer to that question. Notice the word mandate -- as in direct, which is the language the bill uses. As in, quit making excuses and just do it. Bureaucrats and lobbyists and experts sometimes forget that the power in this country resides with the people, who express their will through their elected representatives. This may sound rather grand, but the point is that legislators are not some special interest who must be humored while the permanent ruling class goes on its merry way. That's why putting a bill before the Congress http://www.sciencedaily.com/upi/index.php?feed=Sciencearticle=UPI-1-20060331-16184200-bc-ageofautism.xml# -- which Maloney says she will do by the end of April after getting as much public comment as possible -- could be a bigger threat than people realize. After all, as Maloney said this week, Maybe someone in the medical http://www.sciencedaily.com/upi/index.php?feed=Sciencearticle=UPI-1-20060331-16184200-bc-ageofautism.xml# establishment will show me why this study is a bad idea, but they haven't done it yet. Maloney, who credits this column with the idea to look at the never-vaccinated, also critiqued the studies that supposedly have ruled out any link between vaccines -- particularly the mercury-based preservative thimerosal -- and autism. The one major government study to date, the Institute of Medicine's 2004 review, has been met with skepticism from a lot of people, she said. There are serious questions about the data set and methodology. Meanwhile, there is new biological evidence published in top journals, and from major U.S. universities, to support the mercury-autism hypothesis. Just last week we saw the study out of UC Davis, which found that thimerosal disrupts normal biological signals within cells, causes inflammation
Re: [Biofuel] PBS Green Building show
Mike, Thanks! I am adding to one of my homes. I am adding Solar and batteries to reduce my power bill and will now think about what I will use to the addition. Thanks, JonathanMichael Luich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.buildinggreentv.com/Apparently PBS is picking up a 13 episode series about building greenhomes. It hasn't been scheduled yet but is supposed to be this summer.I'll keep my eye out for airdates and should be able to share theepisodes.Mike Luich---Producers Michael Mattioli and Kevin Contrerasof Special Finish Films, present "Building Green," the PBS homeimprovement television series about creating gorgeous homes that arehealthier, more energy efficient, and better for the environment. Every phase of sustainable construction is presented by host KevinContreras, who explores green building from all angles, sharinginformation and showing lots of in depth, "how-to" build greenerhomes. Natural home products and techniques like straw bale buildingare covered in detail to show the infinite ways to build a healthyhouse. Segments like "Saving Green" and "Easy Steps" show viewerswhat they can do in real world circumstances to make choices to buildgreen. Buildinggreentv.comis a guide to integrating green building products, services, and otherresources into living green.Building Green World Premieresat the Santa Barbara Film Festival!Building Green Goes MainstreamAt "Building Green" we are committed to bringing you the bestinformation on technology, people, products, and ideas to make yourhome healthier, your life more enjoyable and your footprint lighter onthe planet. That is why we are constantly talking to the best andbrightest minds in green building, researching the newest inventions,rediscovering ancient techniques, and attending workshops andconferences around the world. We stay informed to keep you informed.Our projected air date is Summer 2006, and we are speaking with themost forward thinking corporations on the planet about joining forcesto help bring the American people this vital information. Beyond thatwe are shooting more footage every week and turning out more episodes.We are pleased and honored to be doing this work to connect peoplewith manufacturers, experts, and like-minded individuals to helpcreate better living and working spaces for each person.We have been inundated by calls from friends like you about BuildingGreen's growing popularity. We are so encouraged to find out about thegreat work being done around the country and world with respect togreen building. Every week we read a new article about how it isbecoming mainstream and see that people are ready for the significantchanges green building is making our world.American business is learning that it is possible to "do well by doinggood" with economics driving the market towards sustainability,creating positive social and environmental change in the process!Around the world businesses specializing in green products are poppingup and doing very well. Architects and builders are becoming greenerby the moment. International corporations are realizing that themarket is demanding cleaner, greener products and watching that thosecompanies conduct their business in ways that are more environmentallyfriendly.We want people to know that "Building Green" is about mindful choices,addressing family health and quality of life issues with everydecision made within any given budget. In this case, it definitely isthe thought that counts!!What we think, do, and teach shapes the universe in powerfullyprofound ways beyond our imagination and comprehension. We hope thatwe can help direct this power to ends that benefit us as a planet, ashumans, and as living beings on this earth, stewards of her delicatelybalanced and integrated beauty, giving back no more than what we take,keeping and honoring that balance with every concious act.___Biofuel mailing listBiofuel@sustainablelists.orghttp://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.orgBiofuel at Journey to Forever:http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.htmlSearch the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages):http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ J.J.A.M., Inc. Jonathan Lynden DunlapIS Network Systems AnalystYour PC Linux Specialist P.O. Box 4209Inglewood, California 90309-4209323-779-2752/HomeThe information contained in this transmission is priviledged and confidential in nature and intended only for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any distribution, copying, disclosure or taking of any action in reliance on the contents of this transmission is strictly prohibited and review by any individual other than the intended recipient shall not constitute waiver of privilege. If you have received this transmission in
[Biofuel] cracking the glycerine
When the phosphoric acid disassociates the glycerine into it's component ions, is it the move in the pH or is it the strong acid, a combination, or the particular ions (phosphate and such) that brings this about. Anybody? Greg Kelly ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] cracking the glycerine
The phosphoric acid cracks the soap bond (metal and free fatty acid), leaving the metal ion free to bond with the phosphorus ion in one of three ways; KPO4, K2PO4 and/or K3PO4. The ratio depends upon the amount of acid available. This leaves the alcohols (methanol and glycerol) and water to aggregate. Todd Swearingen greg Kelly wrote: When the phosphoric acid disassociates the glycerine into it's component ions, is it the move in the pH or is it the strong acid, a combination, or the particular ions (phosphate and such) that brings this about. Anybody? Greg Kelly ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] New to this in New Zealand
Hi everyone I'm very new to this home made biodiesel larkand have only got to the stage where I've run two 1 litre test batches with new canola. The results have been really good and I have used thebiodiesel in a primus stove (mixed with kerosene - it didn't burn properly on it's own). I'm planning on running it through my old car (a '94 Mitsubishi)to see if it goes OK, but having read a lot of Journey to Forever, the engine will almost definitely run on it as they "will run onany fuelfor a short period of time" - my idea is to run my old car on 100% BD to see if anything detrimental happens and then run both cars on it if all is OK. I have now got all the chemicals I need to go into larger scale production and have acquired an oldstainless steel LPG tank which I am planning to modify so I can use it as a reactor. I would really appreciate being able to get in touch with biodieselers in New Zealand around the Hamilton area so I can see their setup and find out what their experiences have been like. The place I get my chemicals from said they get quite a lot of biodieselers coming in so they are definitely some here! I've looked through the archives and 'Bob-bmolloy' and 'Michael Williams' have mentioned NZ biodiesel producers but they appear to have gone off line with it. The main problem I have come up against is obtaining waste oil. I went into the local Burger King and they change the oil in their fryersevery few days which sounded ideal as the oil wouldn't have been cooked to death. The manager was very reluctant to let me help myself to the drum out the back so I had to contact the head office in Auckland who said I should contact 'The Tallow Man' who has the contract for removing the oil. I did this and he tried to put me off making biodiesel because they'd tried it and had blown upthe engine in their vehicle quite quickly - he said they'd filtered down to 10 microns but there were still microscopic solids in the oil that did the damage. Not sure if they were tran-esterifying or just blending WVO with something else - anyway, it didn't put me off. Either way, he was not happy for me to help myself to Burger King's waste oil as he pay the Ministry of Agriculture and Forestry $1000 a year to do the job commercially. They use the oil in animal feed but he said he'd be happy to sell me some oil if I wanted it but I'm not interested as it makes it too expensive. I've approached a few local chip shops and takeaways but it's very hard to make myself understood (mainly due to language difficulties). I did arrange to pick up some oil from one guy, but when I went back on their 'oil change day' he didn't recognise me and it was clear that they weren't changing the oil in their fryers. He offered me a tub of crispy bits they had strained from their fryer but I tried to explain (to no avail)that this wasn't what I was after. Besides, from the smells coming from the places I've visited, their oil is pretty old and has been cooked/burnt so I imagine the FFA level would be pretty high. As such, finding out how the other people doing this in NZ get their waste oil is very interesting to me. I considered placing an ad in the paper but don't want too much oil in case I find it hard to convert it (also, from what 'The Tallow Man' said, I could potentially be considered a commercial outfit and be subjected to fees, regulations and who knows what if I publicly advertised as someone who would 'dispose' of waste vegetable oil). Also, a source of cheap methanol would be great - I paid NZ$70 for 20 litres, but I'm sure it can be obtained at a cheaper price having looked at trademe (NZ equivalent to ebay). Anyway, any help/advice would be great. Thanks Daniel ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] peas to ethanol
Hi all, This all sounds interesting but if they keep using food plants to convert to ethanol we could have another real problem with food being diverted for fuel production. Farmers are already burning valuable rainforests to grow fuel crops, regards tallex Peas to ethanol Washington - So you don't like eating peas? Then how about fueling your car or truck with them? That's a possibility Agricultural Research Service (ARS) scientists are exploring--using a type of fuel called ethanol, made from the legume's starch. Ethanol is among the cleaner-burning alternatives to petroleum, and is credited with reducing tailpipe emissions of carbon monoxide and other pollutants when added to gasoline. full article http://www.alternate-energy.net/N/news.php?detail=n1143952054.news Get your daily alternative energy news Alternate Energy Resource Network 1000+ news sources-resources updated daily http://www.alternate-energy.net Next Generation Grid http://groups.yahoo.com/group/next_generation_grid/ Tomorrow-energy http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tomorrow-energy/ Alternative Energy Politics http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Alternative_Energy_Politics/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] peas to ethanol
New company: Bees peas?? (TIC) regards D On Sunday 02 April 2006 3:46, AltEnergyNetwork wrote: Hi all, This all sounds interesting but if they keep using food plants to convert to ethanol we could have another real problem with food being diverted for fuel production. Farmers are already burning valuable rainforests to grow fuel crops, regards tallex Peas to ethanol Washington - So you don't like eating peas? Then how about fueling your car or truck with them? That's a possibility Agricultural Research Service (ARS) scientists are exploring--using a type of fuel called ethanol, made from the legume's starch. Ethanol is among the cleaner-burning alternatives to petroleum, and is credited with reducing tailpipe emissions of carbon monoxide and other pollutants when added to gasoline. full article http://www.alternate-energy.net/N/news.php?detail=n1143952054.news Get your daily alternative energy news Alternate Energy Resource Network 1000+ news sources-resources updated daily http://www.alternate-energy.net Next Generation Grid http://groups.yahoo.com/group/next_generation_grid/ Tomorrow-energy http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tomorrow-energy/ Alternative Energy Politics http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Alternative_Energy_Politics/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
