[Biofuel] 'People power' proves effectiveness in Nepal
http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/storypage.aspx?StoryId=37475 ABS-CBN Interactive 'People power' proves effectiveness in Nepal KATHMANDU - People power in a continent with 60 percent of the world's population proved its potency in Nepal after street demonstrations forced the king to hand over absolute rule of the country. While hardly representing rebellion-sweeping Asia, it is the latest concession after crippling protests forced the premier to step down in Thailand and the government to give ground over fuel prices in Malaysia. In the Philippines tens of thousands took to the streets on Labor Day calling for the ouster of President Arroyo - as they achieved with her predecessor Joseph Estrada in 2001. Some analysts said events indicated a stronger desire by the public, particularly in Asia's newer democracies, to play a key part in the future of their nations. In Nepal parliament sat for the first time in four years on Friday following three weeks of street protests against the king's absolute rule. In Nepal academics and diplomats said the Maoists - who effectively control large parts of the countryside - were crucial in mobilizing support and bringing villagers into the capital Kathmandu for protests. But in Thailand, Bangkok's middle class arose in February against Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra, in a movement that eventually drove him from office. The protests began in anger at a $1.9-billion stock sale by Thaksin's family, which his critics said highlighted their claims that he had used his five years in office to benefit his vast business empire. The movement was led largely by a handful of rich and influential men who opposed Thaksin, and who managed to successfully tap in to middle class discontent in Bangkok. He finally stood down after an April 2 election highlighted a sharp divide in the country. But Thaksin could still stand in new elections. His party remains the dominant force in Thai politics, raising questions about what - if anything - has changed after months of turmoil. The differences between the two nations could be seen by the roles played by the two kings, with Nepalese King Gyanendra forced to recall parliament after calling for the opposition to name a new prime minister following weeks of street protests. In Thailand the hugely influential king rebuffed calls for him to appoint a new premier. In Thailand, even when people asked the king to interfere he said no. He said it will endanger the political process, noted political scientist Rabindra Khanal of Kathmandu's Tribhuwan University. AFP - http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1513242.cms Nepal students now target politicians Keshav Pradhan [ Tuesday, May 02, 2006 11:26:18 pmTIMES NEWS NETWORK ] KATHMANDU: After having fought against Gyanendra unarmed, Nepal's pro-democracy students on Tuesday came out in the streets with lathis to discipline politicians fighting over plump ministerial posts over the past one week. Prime minister G P Koirala has not yet been able to constitute a full-fledged council of ministers owing to differences within the Seven-Party Alliance (SPA) over portfolios. Hundreds of Tribhuvan University students, with sticks in hands, marched to Singh Durbar, where parliament is located. As security personnel stopped them from entering the House, which was then in session, the students pulled down police posts and shouted, If you leaders don't overcome your greed for power and work according to wishes of the people, we will gherao your houses. Reports said students took out similar rallies in central Nepal's Chitwan district too. Most pro-democracy activists feared that constant wrangling among the politicians would enable the palace to re-consolidate its position. - http://snipurl.com/pyr2 25 April 2006 Dateline Kathmandu: Gyanendra blinks, announces revival of parliament With the democratic opposition's promised million-person march on the Nepalese capital less than 12 hours away, King Gyanendra has finally stepped back from the brink. The question now is how quickly the parties can press ahead with a Constituent Assembly. http://snipurl.com/pyr3 25 April 2006 The Hindu In Nepal, novel forms of protest and familiar ones too From a peoples' referendum to clashes with the police and even talk of petrol bombs, Nepal today is seething with anger. http://snipurl.com/pyr4 April 22, 2006 Nepal on the Verge of Bastille By Sudhanva Deshpande http://snipurl.com/pyr5 Nepal Maoists The American Connection And More Rajinder Puri The Statesman http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/nic/maoist.htm Exclusive interview with Prachanda, Maoist leader This is a complete verbatim transcript of Nepali Maoist leader Prachanda's interview with Siddharth Varadarajan of The Hindu, conducted at an undisclosed location in the first week of February 2006. Highlights and excerpts from the interview were published in the print edition of The Hindu of
[Biofuel] The Predator State = Enron, Tyco, WorldCom... and the U.S. government?
http://informationclearinghouse.info/article12880.htm The Predator State Enron, Tyco, WorldCom... and the U.S. government? By James K. Galbraith 04/29/06 Mother Jones -- -- WHAT IS THE REAL NATURE of American capitalism today? Is it a grand national adventure, as politicians and textbooks aver, in which markets provide the framework for benign competition, from which emerges the greatest good for the greatest number? Or is it the domain of class struggle, even a global class war, as the title of Jeff Faux's new book would have it, in which the party of Davos outmaneuvers the remnants of the organized working class? The doctrines of the law and economics movement, now ascendant in our courts, hold that if people are rational, if markets can be contested, if memory is good and information adequate, then firms will adhere on their own to norms of honorable conduct. Any public presence in the economy undermines this. Even insurance-whether deposit insurance or Social Security-is perverse, for it encourages irresponsible risktaking. Banks will lend to bad clients, workers will live for today, companies will speculate with their pension funds; the movement has even argued that seat belts foster reckless driving. Insurance, in other words, creates a moral hazard for which market discipline is the cure; all works for the best when thought and planning do not interfere. It's a strange vision, and if we weren't governed by people like John Roberts and Sam Alito, who pretend to believe it, it would scarcely be worth our attention. The idea of class struggle goes back a long way; perhaps it really is the history of all hitherto existing society, as Marx and Engels famously declared. But if the world is ruled by a monied elite, then to what extent do middle-class working Americans compose part of the global proletariat? The honest answer can only be: not much. The political decline of the left surely flows in part from rhetoric that no longer matches experience; for the most part, American voters do not live on the Malthusian margin. Dollars command the world's goods, rupees do not; membership in the dollar economy makes every working American, to some degree, complicit in the capitalist class. In the mixed-economy America I grew up in, there existed a post-capitalist, post-Marxian vision of middle-class identity. It consisted of shared assets and entitlements, of which the bedrock was public education, access to college, good housing, full employment at living wages, Medicare, and Social Security. These programs, publicly provided, financed, or guaranteed, had softened the rough edges of Great Depression capitalism, rewarding the sacrifices that won the Second World War. They also showcased America, demonstrating to those behind the Iron Curtain that regulated capitalism could yield prosperity far beyond the capacities of state planning. (This, and not the arms race, ultimately brought down the Soviet empire.) These middle-class institutions survive in America today, but they are frayed and tattered from constant attack. And the division between those included and those excluded is large and obvious to all. Today, the signature of modern American capitalism is neither benign competition, nor class struggle, nor an inclusive middle-class utopia. Instead, predation has become the dominant feature-a system wherein the rich have come to feast on decaying systems built for the middle class. The predatory class is not the whole of the wealthy; it may be opposed by many others of similar wealth. But it is the defining feature, the leading force. And its agents are in full control of the government under which we live. Our rulers deliver favors to their clients. These range from Native American casino operators, to Appalachian coal companies, to Saipan sweatshop operators, to the would-be oil field operators of Iraq. They include the misanthropes who led the campaign to abolish the estate tax; Charles Schwab, who suggested the dividend tax cut of 2003; the Benedict Arnold companies who move their taxable income offshore; and the financial institutions behind last year's bankruptcy bill. Everywhere you look, public decisions yield gains to specific private entities. For in a predatory regime, nothing is done for public reasons. Indeed, the men in charge do not recognize that public purposes exist. They have friends, and enemies, and as for the rest-we're the prey. Hurricane Katrina illustrated this perfectly, as Halliburton scooped up contracts and Bush hamstrung Kathleen Blanco, the Democratic governor of Louisiana. The population of New Orleans was, at best, an afterthought; once dispersed, it was quickly forgotten. The predator-prey model explains some things that other models cannot: in particular, cycles of prosperity and depression. Growth among the prey stimulates predation. The two populations grow together at first, but when the balance of
Re: [Biofuel] The Predator State = Enron, Tyco, WorldCom... and the U.S. government?
His book is a wake-up call for everyone who believes that market forces alone will keep companies and their owners honest. The only question is who owns whom, or rather, do they run their companies or do their companies run them? On the one hand, you find yourself trying to use human nature to explain humans doing completely inhuman things as a matter of course, so human nature takes a downgrade, on the other, it's just a mechanism that's out of control, and that's how it works. Slaves will do slavish things but that doesn't make them inhuman, it's because they don't have any choice. Then they go home to their wives and families, who don't blame them for it. Especially not if they've got a $400 million golden handshake in their pocket, for instance. A company does not have a heart http://snipurl.com/pyog Re: [Biofuel] Eating (up) the World See also: For Richer, by Paul Krugman (8,100-word NYT article, good read) http://www.pkarchive.org/economy/ForRicher.html http://www.utexas.edu/utpress/books/blabes.html Black, The Best Way to Rob a Bank Is to Own One, University of Texas Press The Best Way to Rob a Bank Is to Own One How Corporate Executives and Politicians Looted the SL Industry By William K. Black This is an extraordinary bookNo other account gives a complete picture of the control fraud that occurred in the SL crisisThere is no one else in the whole world who understands so well exactly how these lootings occurred in all their details and how the changes in government regulations and in statutes in the early 1980s caused this spate of lootingThis book will be a classic. -George A. Akerlof, University of California, Berkeley, winner of the 2001 Nobel Prize for Economics This book is a must-read for anyone wanting to understand one of the darkest chapters in financial history in America. As Black clearly and expertly shows, the lessons we never learned are still importantHis book more than stands on its own against any other published on the SL crisis and is the most definitive account available. -Henry N. Pontell, University of California, Irvine, coauthor of Profit Without Honor: White-Collar Crime and the Looting of America William Black hits the bull's eye with his development of the concept of 'control fraud' in The Best Way to Rob a Bank Is to Own One. Calculated dishonesty by people in charge is at the heart of most large corporate failures and scandals, such as the savings and loan debacle, as Black points out. While people chase around for other explanations, these control fraud criminal acts are right there for all to see. Black does a great service by making us focus on this reality. We will better understand and possibly prevent the scandals as we see them in the spotlight of control fraud. -Elliott Levitas, former Commissioner, National Commission on Financial Institution Reform, Recovery, and Enforcement (FIRREA), and former Member of Congress At its root the SL scandal is about corrupting self-interest, political and economic. Bill Black's seminal treatment of the subject amounts, in effect, to a clarion call for the return to an old-fashioned notion of public interest. Without such an ethic, analogous transgressions will take place again and again. In this context, the story Black weaves is both historical and prophetic. -Congressman Jim Leach, R-Iowa The catastrophic collapse of companies such as Enron, WorldCom, ImClone, and Tyco left angry investors, employees, reporters, and government investigators demanding to know how the CEOs deceived everyone into believing their companies were spectacularly successful when in fact they were massively insolvent. Why did the nation's top accounting firms give such companies clean audit reports? Where were the regulators and whistleblowers who should expose fraudulent CEOs before they loot their companies for hundreds of millions of dollars? In this expert insider's account of the savings and loan debacle of the 1980s, William Black lays bare the strategies that corrupt CEOs and CFOs-in collusion with those who have regulatory oversight of their industries-use to defraud companies for their personal gain. Recounting the investigations he conducted as Director of Litigation for the Federal Home Loan Bank Board, Black fully reveals how Charles Keating and hundreds of other SL owners took advantage of a weak regulatory environment to perpetrate accounting fraud on a massive scale. He also authoritatively links the SL crash to the business failures of the early 2000s, showing how CEOs then and now are using the same tactics to defeat regulatory restraints and commit the same types of destructive fraud. Black uses the latest advances in criminology and economics to develop a theory of why control fraud-looting a company for personal profit-tends to occur in waves that make financial markets deeply inefficient. He also explains how to prevent such
[Biofuel] Armed Madhouse - Palast
http://informationclearinghouse.info/article12876.htm Armed Madhouse By Greg Palast 04/29/06 ICH -- -- For the past two years, I've nearly disappeared from BBC Television screens and from newspapers so my team could focus on our most important investigation yet. I've put it in a book: Armed Madhouse. The book travels from Beijing to New Orleans to Caracas to Baghdad to New Mexico ... a five-part investigation of global economic piggery so deep, dark and devious you just have to scream or cry -- or laugh. Don't be fooled by the fact that 'Armed Madhouse' is entertaining -- this is my most serious reporting yet -- connecting oil panic, Hurricane Katrina, Chinese currency, Venezuela's petrodollars, disappearing ballots, Thomas Friedman, more oil, and the murder of General Motors. These are dispatches from the front lines of the class war. Here is our new world of militarized greed, where America's panic over lunatics with box-cutters has metastasized into a billion-dollar fear industry; where Republicans sucking on Super-sized Slurpies(r) are hunting dark-skinned voters to eliminate their rights; where James Baker's fixer in alligator boots sets up the grab for Iraq's oil on her way to the rodeo; where miners are suffocated by the same investment bankers who are siphoning off auto workers' pensions. I add 50 illustrations, including those intriguing ones marked 'secret' by the State Department and the World Bank, plus a brilliant recipe for shrimp curry -- and Dick Cheney. There are five sections: THE NETWORK: The World as a Company Town. The weird and frightening facts about the tidal flow of international currency -- the real story of China's rise and the death of Detroit. Plus a report from the future on the assassination of Hugo Chavez -- and explain why it had to be done. THE CON: Kerry Won -- but two million of his votes were never counted. They can't take away your Social Security until they take away your vote. In the 2008 race, four million ballots will go missing. Here's how it will be done. THE FEAR: Who's Afraid of Osama Wolf? Turning Ground Zero into a Profit Center. Why does Southold, New York, have machine guns on SUVs at the casino ferry? Investigations of health insurance and suicide bombings -- in other words, the fun chapter. THE FLOW: Trillion Dollar Babies. If you thought George Bush had a secret plan to seize Iraq's oil -- you're wrong. He had TWO plans, and Armed Madhouse has both of them. THE CLASS WAR: I go deeper into George Bush's crude system of educational terror (No Child's Behind Left), Ken Lay's REAL crimes for which he won't be tried and the story of New Orleans you won't get on Fox Schnews. Here you'll get some complex economics and a free ticket to the circus -- and the core issue of the book: the war of the movers and shakers against the moved and shaken. Asia Times says, Greg Palast, the man widely considered as the top investigative journalist in the United States, is persona non grata in his own country's media. But it's not ME that's 'non-grata' -- it's the information about the Washington regime that is shut out of the mainstream press in the USA. I'm writing to ask you to order the book right NOW for delivery the week of its release, June 6. Here's why. These early sales are crucial to convincing mainstream media that America really wants to know what the hell is going on. My last book, The Best Democracy Money Can Buy, helped open the forbidden topic of vote theft in America. Now, we need break the media's omerta, the silencing of talk of class war. I'm asked again and again, What can we DO? The answer is, we can't do anything until we're INFORMED. We can't prevent the theft of the '08 election until you know the crazy details of the theft of '04. We can't stop the coming war in Venezuela until we learn the weird story of how Big Oil mapped out Iraq's petroleum destiny. We can't shield ourselves from economic onslaught until we have the hard, if hidden, facts of class conflict from the Sino-dollar panic to the privatization of hurricane planning. That's why I wrote this book. Soon you can download Jim Hightower, Larry David, Randi Rhodes, Amy Goodman and other friends reading from Armed Madhouse at www.GregPalast.com When the inmates are running the asylum, arm yourself with the facts. Greg Palast Team - New York | London ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Fw: I'm the Decider
T-shirt? We need a song! Jason Katie wrote: id wear it, no argument at all, whos going to be printing them? - Original Message - From: Appal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 11:57 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Fw: I'm the Decider Groovy dude!!! Where can I get the t-shirt? D. Mindock wrote: Subject: I'm the Decider Bush said the other day, I am the decider. The following is from dailykos.com. Well, it took me awhile, but I finally realized what I'm the decider reminds me of. It sounds like something a character in a Dr. Seuss book might say. So with apologies to the late Mr. Geisel, here is some idle speculation as to what else such a character might say: I'm the decider. I pick and I choose. I pick among whats. And choose among whos. And as I decide Each particular day The things I decide on All turn out that way. I decided on Freedom For all of Iraq. And now that we have it, I'm not looking back. I decided on tax cuts That just help the wealthy. And Medicare changes That aren't really healthy. And parklands and wetlands Who needs all that stuff? I decided that none Would be more than enough! I decided that schools All in all are the best The less that they teach And the more that they test. I decided those wages You need to get by Are much better spent On some CEO guy. I decided your Wade Which was versing your Roe Is terribly awful And just has to go. I decided that levees Are not really needed. Now when hurricanes come They can come unimpeded. That old Constitution? Well, I have decided Asjust goddam paper It should be derided. I've decided gay marriage Is icky and weird. Above all other things, It's the one to be feared. And Cheney and Rummy And Condi all know That I'm the Decider - They tell me it's so. I'm the Decider So watch what you say Or I may decide To have you whisked away. Or I'll tap your phones. Your e-mail I'll read. `cause I'm the Decider - Like Jesus decreed. Yes, I'm the Decider The finest alive And I'm nuking Iran. Now watch this drive! .. Garret Hinebauch 8th Grade English The American School in London One Waverley Place London NW8 0NP UK ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.5.1/327 - Release Date: 4/28/2006 ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.5.2/329 - Release Date: 5/2/2006 ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Fw: I'm the Decider
well keep your eyes peeled here http://www.neilyoung.com/ It is a different song but the same idea.I'm listening to the first track as I write Joe Mike Weaver wrote: T-shirt? We need a song! Jason Katie wrote: id wear it, no argument at all, whos going to be printing them? - Original Message - From: "Appal Energy" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 11:57 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Fw: I'm the Decider Groovy dude!!! Where can I get the t-shirt? D. Mindock wrote: Subject: I'm the Decider Bush said the other day, "I am the decider". The following is from dailykos.com. Well, it took me awhile, but I finally realized what "I'm the decider" reminds me of. It sounds like something a character in a Dr. Seuss book might say. So with apologies to the late Mr. Geisel, here is some idle speculation as to what else such a character might say: I'm the decider. I pick and I choose. I pick among whats. And choose among whos. And as I decide Each particular day The things I decide on All turn out that way. I decided on Freedom For all of Iraq. And now that we have it, I'm not looking back. I decided on tax cuts That just help the wealthy. And Medicare changes That aren't really healthy. And parklands and wetlands Who needs all that stuff? I decided that none Would be more than enough! I decided that schools All in all are the best The less that they teach And the more that they test. I decided those wages You need to get by Are much better spent On some CEO guy. I decided your Wade Which was versing your Roe Is terribly awful And just has to go. I decided that levees Are not really needed. Now when hurricanes come They can come unimpeded. That old Constitution? Well, I have decided As"just goddam paper" It should be derided. I've decided gay marriage Is icky and weird. Above all other things, It's the one to be feared. And Cheney and Rummy And Condi all know That I'm the Decider - They tell me it's so. I'm the Decider So watch what you say Or I may decide To have you whisked away. Or I'll tap your phones. Your e-mail I'll read. `cause I'm the Decider - Like Jesus decreed. Yes, I'm the Decider The finest alive And I'm nuking Iran. Now watch this drive! .. Garret Hinebauch 8th Grade English The American School in London One Waverley Place London NW8 0NP UK ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.5.1/327 - Release Date: 4/28/2006 ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.5.2/329 - Release Date: 5/2/2006 ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] FFA's as Weed Killer
--- Ryan Pope [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From what I remember from my botany courses, plant leaves are also very tightly regulated to reduce water loss. A leaf is basically a large, flat surface coursing with fluid; exactly what you would do to promote evaporation. To slow evap., most leaves have passive pores that close in dry conditions as well as a secreted waxy surface. If the FFA were disrupting the waxy surface or causing the pores to open or both, you would get rapid fluid loss, browning, wilting, etc., but the plant would repair and recover in a short time. Gooeyness...hmmm...surface gooeyness? Or the whole leaf is a spongey mess? Maybe the waxy seal balling up like oil drops in water? Ryan From: Thomas Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] FFA's as Weed Killer Date: Tue, 2 May 2006 14:25:47 -0400 Bob, In response to my note: One day later ~24hrs, the leaves were browning and wilted. You wrote: I sure would like to see some references on the mechanism of this effect. I wonder if the FFAs are disrupting the structure of cell membranes. All cell membranes are phospholipid bilayers with hydrophobic fatty acids pointing inward towards each other and away from water. The hydrophilic phosphates are on the inner and outer surfaces interacting w. water. Replace water w.FFAs and this structure could be compromised. After 24 hrs the leaves are more than wilted, they are gooey (for lack of a better word). I'd be interested in knowing the mechanism as well. I dug up a few treated dandelions 3 - 4 days after treatment. The roots seemed fine. This morning, a week after treatment, some of the sprayed plants are sprouting new leaves and the sickly-looking dandelions have sent up new flowers. The effect does not seem to be systemic. I like that. It seems very effective against a variety of weeds that lack tap roots or runners. Tom - Original Message - From: bob allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 11:49 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] FFA's as Weed Killer Howdy Thomas Kelly wrote: Hi Bob, What do you mean a dilute solution? I sprayed the FFAs, full strength, on the leaves of some weeds. I guess my assumption was wrong- when I recover ffa's I get a very viscous liquid which would be hard to spray. but then my wvo is about half saturated fat. One day later ~24hrs, the leaves were browning and wilted. I think todd also mentioned such an effect. I sure would like to see some references on the mechanism of this effect. How would I test the pH of FFAs? I use wide range pH paper to test my wash water. I don't think they'll work on FFAs. try taking a gram or so of your ffa's and add it to about 100ml water. Free fatty acids will not dissolve well and should not change the pH paper reading. I just tried it with a sample of oleic acid. pH of the solution/emulsion was unchanged after adding the oleic acid. It appears as though some of the weeds I sprayed last week are sending up new shoots. I'll try spraying some oleic acid on a plant or two (as soon as it quits raining) and see what happens. Tom - Original Message - From: bob allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 11:34 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] FFA's as Weed Killer howdy Thomas I am a little surprised that a dilute solution of ffa's would have any impact on plant life over a 24 hour period. My guess is that your solution contains more than ffa's. What is the pH ? how about total dissolved solids, ie salts ? Do you have any idea of the concentration of the ffa (in water I assume)? Thomas Kelly wrote: I've been gardening for over 30 years by essentially building dirt and caring for my plants from the ground up. I've been know to chop off a weed's head now and again or yank them from the ground. I've squished bugs by the thousands and lured others to deadly traps. I've never used a spray that has any real obvious results (dead insects or weeds). I've been splitting my glycerine co-product into FFA's, potassium (and some sodium) phosphate, and crude glycerine. Yesterday I sprayed FFA's on some weeds in an area of the garden that hasn't been turned yet. Today they appear to be dying. It didn't seem to discriminate ... dandelions, wild mustard, plantain, grass all withering. I'm a bit taken back. The sprays I concoct from chives, peppers, mulberry leaves etc. are intended to repel/discourage pests. I don't see any corpses.
Re: [Biofuel] The Predator State = Enron, Tyco, WorldCom... and the U.S. government?
It seems that James K. Galbraith is following in the footsteps of his late and very great father John Kenneth. It's delightfully ironic that James teaches at the Lyndon B. Johnson school. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Keith Addison Sent: May 3, 2006 3:17 AM To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: [Biofuel] The Predator State = Enron, Tyco, WorldCom... and the U.S. government? http://informationclearinghouse.info/article12880.htm The Predator State Enron, Tyco, WorldCom... and the U.S. government? By James K. Galbraith 04/29/06 Mother Jones -- -- WHAT IS THE REAL NATURE of American capitalism today? Is it a grand national adventure, as politicians and textbooks aver, in which markets provide the framework for benign competition, from which emerges the greatest good for the greatest number? Or is it the domain of class struggle, even a global class war, as the title of Jeff Faux's new book would have it, in which the party of Davos outmaneuvers the remnants of the organized working class... The doctrines of the law and economics movement, now ascendant in our courts, hold that if people are rational, if markets can be contested, if memory is good and information adequate, then firms will adhere on their own to norms of honorable conduct. Any public So, how can the political system reform itself? How can we reestablish checks, balances, countervailing power, and a sense of public purpose? How can we get modern economic predation back under control, restoring the possibilities not only for progressive social action but also-just as important-for honest private economic activity? Until we can answer those questions, the predators will run wild. James K. Galbraith teaches economics at the Lyndon B. Johnson School of Public Affairs at the University of Texas-Austin. He previously served in several positions on the staff of the U.S. Congress, including executive director of the Joint Economic Committee. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Iogen - Post to List
Hi Keith...thanks so much for the links to info on Iogen and cellulosic ethanol generally. This whole area is very new to me. Somehow I have been blind for most of my 54 years to the extent that my lifestyle and general world view have been dependent upon and propped up by my dependence upon oil as an energy source. All of sudden I am seeing how out of my control my life really is. And to tell you and everyone the truth, I'm damned frightened, and angry, and depressed, and then...is that my .38 over there??? Somehow I have been able to keep the madness of this world at bay, but no more, all because of rising oil prices and my subsequently felt urgency to research and find alternative energy sources. This research has led me into the politics of the whole energy arena and ultimately a world view that, when I include not just me and mine, but the whole freakin 6.5 billion of us (and growing exponentially), has me pretty much freaked. Just another suburban kid gone over the edge (or perhaps, more accurately, come back from having been over the edge into dreamland into the reality of limited resources and the need for a stripped down lifestyle that takes into account the full extent of my actions). This side of the edge, however, isn't something I can easily make my own, because, it appears to me, if I am going to be able to truly regain what little sense of my self I might truly possess, I must be willing to put my tent on my back and just simply begin to wander and then keep wandering until I fall over dead (can't stop by the local Salvation Army for refreshment...that would only be dipping my toe back over the edge into dreamland again). Is this clear...or am I coming off as the probable lunatic I might really be??? Anyway, so I am curious about your own comments. I'm still reading through all the articles connected to the links you have shared, so maybe my questions will be answered along the way. Nonetheless, I want to ask them here: 1) in regards to how well industrial-scale processes fit rational biofuels production, would you please explain in more detail? Also, perhaps lead me to a model industrial-scale process that DOES fit rational biofuels production? My immediate response to this has to do with a main point I have observed in my own interest in making biofuel: that this is not something me and all of my neighbors can do individually for various reasons, but especially because of limited feedstock and difficulty of distribution. Democracy does not extend to the realm of limited resources. I believe packaging of product for individuals has promoted this appearance. Consequently, it appears to me (and I could still be very blind on this point), we need some level of industrial-scale processes; and 2) will you please explain further how gobbling up crop wastes is done at the expense of soil fertility maintenance? Please understand, I am in NO WAY trying to be argumentative. I really am profoundly concerned about our world situation today and how I can be on the helpful side of it all (knapsack and all???). I don't have that much time left on the planet, and I'd like to go down swinging. Thanks. Mike - Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 1:17 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Iogen - Post to List Hi Mike Hi...I'd like to hear the list's opinion about the process developed by Iogen to produce cellulosic ethanol. Goldman Sachs announced yesterday (May 1) an investment of $30million Canadian in the company. Royal Dutch/Shell, Petro-Canada, and the Canadian Gov't have also all partnered with or are supporting Iogen. The first article below, by Sam Jaffe, an editor with The Scientist magazine, discusses cellulosic ethanol as well as a fuel cell developed by Lanny Scmidt. The second link is to the Iogen website itself. Thanks. Mike http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/features/2004/0407.jaffe.html http://www.iogen.ca/ Here's some previous discussion: http://snipurl.com/pxs2 biofuel Search results for 'iogen' 94 matches Ethanol from cellulose http://journeytoforever.org/ethanol_link.html#cellulose Maybe it'll get off the ground now, it's been around for years and nothing happens. Like all the other ethanol-from-cellulose projects. What bothers me about it, other than how well industrial-scale processes fit rational biofuels production anyway, is that cellulose is widely regarded as waste, but the soil that produced it might not think so. There's often plenty of cellulose about that isn't utilised and could/should be harvested, but if Iogen et al start gobbling up crop wastes at the expense of soil fertility maintenance then clean, green and sustainable biofuels won't be the result. Best Keith ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Re: [Biofuel] Fw: I'm the Decider
I liked poem and thought you all may enjoy this. A good parody of the Beatles. Turn on your speakers!http://decider.cf.huffingtonpost.com/___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Are Americans torturers or supporters of torture?
US has not stopped torture, according to Amnesty http://wireservice.wired.com/wired/story.asp?section=BreakingstoryId=1519912 Who belive that they stopped? It casts a shadow over all Americans, who are responsible for their government. At least republicans are clearly to identify with what's going on. This especially elected representatives, who refuse to take a stand and stop their support of this administration. Why is there so little public actions to get rid of the current government? A massive rejection of its methods, would make them resign, but it is no signs of it. No actions are the same as compliancy, Americans of today, must have a very good understanding and sympathy for the Germans in the 1930's. They only let it happen also. Was Vietnam not enough, or should future generations have to feel more guilt of their ancestors behavior. Hakan ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] From a Congresswoman, Diana DeGette (D-CO)
My bad... I figured it was a state level thing. That's even more odd. I would gather that they are presuming the patriot act will eventually be taken out and are trying to put bits and pieces of it here and there. On Tuesday, May 02, 2006 4:25 PM, Zeke Yewdall wrote: This isn't at a state level. Diana DeGette is a US rep, not a state rep, unless I'm all confused about who the bozos here in Colorado have elected. If you think the democrats from Colorado are bad, try to republicans -- Wayne Allard, Tom Tancredo, and Marilyn Musgrave, to name a few On 5/2/06, DHAJOGLO [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was under the impression that the patriot act already pretty much covered this type of records mandating. I wonder what they gain by inacting it at a state level. On Tuesday, May 02, 2006 12:26 PM, D. Mindock wrote: Date: Tue, 2 May 2006 12:26:59 -0500 From: D. Mindock To: Undisclosed-Recipient:; Subject: [Biofuel] From a Congresswoman, Diana DeGette (D-CO) When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living in society, they create for themselves, in the course of time, a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it. Frederic Bastiat, The Law (1850) = It is getting difficult to distinguish a Democrat from a neo-con Repug these days. The attack on our Internet usage and privacy continues... Peace, D. Mindock --- Original is at: http://energycommerce.house.gov/108/Markups/04262006/degette_001_XML.PDF AMENDMENT TO THE COMMITTEE PRINT OFFERED BY MS. DEGETTE OF COLORADO Records retention by ISPs At the end of the bill add the following new title: 1 TITLE VI由ECORDS RETENTION 2 SEC. 601. RECORD RETENTION REGULATIONS REQUIRED. 3 Title VII of the Communications Act of 1934 (47 4 U.S.C. 601 et seq.) is further amended by adding after 5 section 718 (as added by section 501 of this Act) the l6 following new section: 7 荘SEC. 719. RECORD RETENTION BY PROVIDERS OF INTER8 NET ACCESS SERVICE. 9 荘(a) REGULATIONS REQUIRED.邑ithin 90 days 10 after the date of enactment of this section, the Commission 11 shall prescribe regulations requiring each provider of 12 Internet access services to retain records to permit the 13 identification of subscribers to such services for appro- 14 priate law enforcement purposes. Such records shall, in 15 accordance with such regulations, be retained for not less 16 than one year after a subscriber ceases to subscribe to 17 such services. 18 荘(b) DEFINITION.友or purposes of this section: F:\SAC\109TEL\CABLE\DEGETTE_001.XML F:\V9\042506\042506.106 April 25, 2006 (11:47 AM) 2 H.L.C. 1 荘(1) INTERNET.裕he term 選nternet' means 2 the combination of computer facilities and electro 3 magnetic transmission media, and related equipment 4 and software, comprising the interconnected world 5 wide network of computer networks that employ the 6 Transmission Control Protocol/Internet Protocol or 7 any successor protocol to transmit information. 8 荘(2) INTERNET ACCESS SERVICE.裕he term 9 選nternet access service' means a service that enables 10 users to access content, information, electronic mail, 11 or other services offered over the Internet, and may 12 also include access to proprietary content, informa- 13 tion, and other services as part of a package of serv- 14 ices offered to consumers. Such term does not in- 15 clude telecommunications services.''. F:\SAC\109TEL\CABLE\DEGETTE_001.XML F:\V9\042506\042506.106 April 25, 2006 (11:47 AM) ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Fw: I'm the Decider
Thanks Chris. It's very well done. I forwarded it to a gazillion people. Peace, D. Mindock - Original Message - From: chris davidson To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2006 11:30 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Fw: I'm the Decider I liked poem and thought you all may enjoy this. A good parody of the Beatles. Turn on your speakers!http://decider.cf.huffingtonpost.com/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Processor maintenance
Just finished a general overhaul of the processor, for the first time, after three years. That's this processor: http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_processor10.html Journey to Forever 90-litre processor There wasn't anything wrong with it, but the hoses needed replacing, so did the silicon seal under the lid. I replaced all the hose. I'm quite impressed it lasted that long. This is transparent braded PVC hose. It was still strong, no bursts like some people's hoses have burst, and it's not stiff and brittle either, which happens to some plastic with biodiesel. But it was weeping. It's a yellowish colour now, the original and the replacement hose has a faint blue tinge. You can see the difference in the two-year-old photograph at the web page, after about a year I changed the plumbing arrangement for the bottom drains and replaced two bits of hose, they're slightly more blue. What kind of hose won't weep either? The processor has been in regular use every week or so and sometimes much more often than that, for three years, using every process and all the chemicals, but mostly acid-base with sulphuric acid and KOH. These are 90-litre fuel tanks from kerosene water heaters, made of plain steel, with no inner coating. There's no rust anywhere, not even in the two washing tanks. This is the second time I've replaced the silicon seal. I also used two-part polyester putty in some places (not quick-drying, it takes 24 hours), and that seems as good as new. So much for all those horrendous chemicals that eat everything. Best Keith ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Are Americans torturers or supporters of torture?
Hakan, To answer your question: No. Your questions imply that ALL Americans have proof about systematic and long-term torture, and quite simply I do not believe that you have the evidence to support that assertion. What other countries have been reported to and are listed with Amnesty International as having employed torture?Are you going to issue the same indictment of the citizens of those countries as well? Aren't ALL member nations in the UN responsible for not forcing ALL countries to stop using torture? Using your assertion, aren't the citizens of all those countries responsible as well? Yes, I know it is easy to say that the US has a veto on the Security Council...but why not simply change the system?? Sitting back and just saying that they cannot is the same as the comparison to 1930's and 1940's Nazi Germany. Simply having a vote does not imply responsibilty, much less confer the ability to force the action (or non-action) of a government.This does not excuse torture...but nor does it solve it either. I believe you need to first figure out what makes humans CAPABLE of torture then you can address the REASONS that humans employ torture. --Randall ___ Heisenberg may have slept here If I had eight hours to chop down a tree, I'd spend six sharpening my xe. --Abraham Lincoln ___ - Original Message - From: Hakan Falk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2006 1:19 PM Subject: [Biofuel] Are Americans torturers or supporters of torture? US has not stopped torture, according to Amnesty http://wireservice.wired.com/wired/story.asp?section=BreakingstoryId=1519912 Who belive that they stopped? It casts a shadow over all Americans, who are responsible for their government. At least republicans are clearly to identify with what's going on. This especially elected representatives, who refuse to take a stand and stop their support of this administration. Why is there so little public actions to get rid of the current government? A massive rejection of its methods, would make them resign, but it is no signs of it. No actions are the same as compliancy, Americans of today, must have a very good understanding and sympathy for the Germans in the 1930's. They only let it happen also. Was Vietnam not enough, or should future generations have to feel more guilt of their ancestors behavior. Hakan ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Electric lynch motors
Hi all A nice person wrote to me from the UK and told me about this, among other things - anyone know about 'biscuit tin motors'? You may be interested to know that I own a 1936 canal barge which I have had converted so that the propulsion system is an electric lynch motor. I dare say you already know about lynch motors but just in case you don't they are also known as 'biscuit tin motors' because they are so tiny that they will actually fit inside one. The lynch motor happily pushes along my boat which is 72 feet long and weighs in at over 20 tons Fortunately on a boat , batteries are a positive attribute because they become ballast to keep the hull down in the water. I usually have 1,650 amp hours of them onboard. The weak link is the fact that my budget didn't stretch to the kilowatt of photovoltaics needed to do the propulsion system justice so I don't travel very far at present : ( Hugh, who fitted the lynch motor has a website www.solarboat.co.uk which you may find interesting. Also: http://www.lemcoltd.com/ L.M.C. Manufacturers of Permanent Magnet DC Motors Lynch Motor Company Best Keith ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] War on the cheap
War on the cheapBy BOB KERRProvidence JournalMay 3, 2006, 05:54The Iraq war has been the war fought on the cheap - not enough body armor, not enough armor on vehicles, not enough night vision equipment.It has been the war in which packages from back home have had to fill some crucial needs.Now, we have chow call at the Greenwood Credit Union in Warwick, R.I. It's the latest in home-front intervention. It's partially in response to the unthinkable image of U.S. Marines approaching Iraqi citizens and asking for food because they do not have enough.There's a big barrel in the lobby of the credit union on Post Road in Warwick. It's decorated with ribbons and it's there because Karen Boucher-Andoscia's son, Nick Andoscia, called and asked his mother to send food.Nick's a Marine corporal. He was in Afghanistan last year, where there was enough to eat. He's in Iraq now even though his enlistment was up last year.He's one of those Marines who can't walk away. His unit, the 3rd Battalion of the 3rd Marines, was headed for Iraq and he just couldn't head for civilian life while those he had served with were heading to their second war."He extended," says Karen. "He told me, 'I really have to go. I can't let my guys go alone.' "There are a lot of stories like that. We don't hear them much. They're kind of personal.So Nick Andoscia went to Iraq. And hunger soon followed."I got a letter," says Karen. "And he had called me before that. He said, 'Send lots of tuna.' "Nick told his mother that he and the men in his unit were all about 10 pounds lighter in their first few weeks in Iraq. They were pulling 22-hour patrol shifts. They were getting two meals a day and they were not meals to remember."He told me the two meals just weren't cutting it. He said the Iraqi food was usually better. They were going to the Iraqis and basically saying, 'feed me.' "Karen started packing in that wartime tradition as old as mothers and sons. She packed a lot of the packaged tuna, not the canned.She happened to mention her hungry son to people she works with at Greenwood Credit Union, where she is a teller and has worked for 30 years.Pounds and pounds of food started showing up amid the daily business of loans and deposits and withdrawals. Marianne Barao, the branch manager, said it could be done, the credit union could become the place where people help feed hungry Marines who are risking their lives on a skimpy diet."We sent out 51 pounds this week," says Karen. "There are customers coming in saying, 'What do you need?' "The credit union is paying the cost of packing and shipping.Any packaged food is welcome. So are baby wipes because showers are even rarer than a full meal. And foot powder.Nick Andoscia, who is 22, is due to come home later this year. He wants to study criminal justice, his mother says, then go to work for a fire or police department.But for the next few months he will be on patrol in western Iraq, dealing with the heat and the dirt and the danger.The last thing he should have to worry about is an empty stomach. The last thing he should have to do is approach Iraqis and ask for food.You have to wonder what the gracious hosts must think when a fighting man from the richest country on earth comes to their door in search of something to eat.(Bob Kerr is a columnist for The Providence Journal. E-mail bkerr(at)projo.com.) ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Biodiesel videos
I just watched a biodiesel DVD that was made in eastern Ontario. It was obvious that a pile of money was invested by somebody but everything looked brand new and shiny, instead of used and oily like it should. There were three hot water tanks in all, one for preheating, one for reacting and one for drying. As I watched it became obvious that this guy did not have a lot of knowledge. He had a small automotive style cartridge filter for filtering feed stock! We have just been discussing gravity settling on this list and why prefiltration is not needed. They were using bubble washing and heating the fuel and bubbling air through the fuel for drying which is a nice recipe for oxidizing. Then the guy fires up the blender for a demo batch and with 200 ml of methoxide frothing and spitting away with blender running he takes the lid off to pour oil in, and this is also indoors. Yikes! They then start showing a full size batch but completely skip over the process after filling the pre-heating tank with what looked to be very well settled or previously filtered oil. When he demonstrates a measuring cup of glycerin he has decanted in the background on the sight tube you can see the reactor doesn't even have anything in it. There is no pre wash test or anything and he doesn't say anything about titration for that matter either. Has anybody else seen similar crap? I wonder how much of this nonsense is floating around out there. It makes me cringe. I have been asked twice to be on TV and once approached to help make one of these DVD's and I am starting to get the creeps! Joe ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Iogen - Post to List
Sanity is the ability to doubt your own sanity. - Original Message - From: MK DuPree [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2006 11:14 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Iogen - Post to List Is this clear...or am I coming off as the probable lunatic I might really be??? ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Films needed for sustainable living meetings
Hi all Can someone recommend some good films to tell people about at sustainable living meetings? We know about these: The End of Suburbia NOVA - the Dimming Sun CNN Presents - Climate Change The Corporation An Inconvenient Truth I'd like to find out about the film Eating (up) the World mentioned in this mailing list. Where I can get it and is it in English? This is the URL for it in Austria: http://www2.dw-world.de/southasia/germany/1.178686.1.html Any more suggestions? Marilyn ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] films for sustainable living meetings (corrected)
Hi all Can someone recommend some good films to tell people about at sustainable living meetings? We know about these: The End of Suburbia NOVA - the Dimming Sun CNN Presents - Climate Change The Corporation An Inconvenient Truth I'd like to find out about the film We Feed the World - Essen global. It was mentioned in this mailing list (wong name on last email). Where I can get it and is it in English? This is the URL for it in Austria: http://www2.dw-world.de/southasia/germany/1.178686.1.htm Marilyn ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Electric lynch motors
Never heard of biscuit tin motors, but I have heard of lynch motors -- used for all kinds of little electric vehicals. I've also heard a bit about eletric boats and ferries -- they used to have one for president Roosevelt (Teddy) I think, for the official launch (equivalent to his Marine 1 helicopter now I guess). As he said, weight is not an issue, and nowadays, you can easily (technically, if you can afford it) put a kW or so of PV as a shade canopy on the barge and run it around all day, pollution free. I know that the galapagos islands were wanting to convert alot of their little tour boats, because they just tool around all day belching diesel (which also kills alot of the very wildlife the tourists are there to see, in the frequent fuel spills). Not sure how far along they've gotten on this plan. On 5/3/06, Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all A nice person wrote to me from the UK and told me about this, among other things - anyone know about 'biscuit tin motors'? You may be interested to know that I own a 1936 canal barge which I have had converted so that the propulsion system is an electric lynch motor. I dare say you already know about lynch motors but just in case you don't they are also known as 'biscuit tin motors' because they are so tiny that they will actually fit inside one. The lynch motor happily pushes along my boat which is 72 feet long and weighs in at over 20 tons Fortunately on a boat , batteries are a positive attribute because they become ballast to keep the hull down in the water. I usually have 1,650 amp hours of them onboard. The weak link is the fact that my budget didn't stretch to the kilowatt of photovoltaics needed to do the propulsion system justice so I don't travel very far at present : ( Hugh, who fitted the lynch motor has a website www.solarboat.co.uk which you may find interesting. Also: http://www.lemcoltd.com/ L.M.C. Manufacturers of Permanent Magnet DC Motors Lynch Motor Company Best Keith ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Are Americans torturers or supporters of torture?
Randall, US have already proved that they do not want to give up the veto in UN. This also means that they can veto any change that are suggested for UN. So it is the old story about what comes first. Yes, there are some other countries that apply torture, most of them are countries that US does not want to be compared with and some of them South Americans that US support and where CIA have proved to be training the military. To be fair, we must also mention China, where US have no influence at all. Yes, I am saying the same about those countries, but unfortunately torture is an internal matter and used to keep their own population under control. Are you suggesting that this is the case in US, it becomes even more worrisome than I thought. So what you say is, as long as ALL Americans are not aware of their country's methods, the rest is absolved from taking actions and are kept in line by torture as other countries. I never thought that you had such a risky and dangerous environment in US. It has changed very much the last few years that I did not visit. Hakan At 21:19 03/05/2006, you wrote: Hakan, To answer your question: No. Your questions imply that ALL Americans have proof about systematic and long-term torture, and quite simply I do not believe that you have the evidence to support that assertion. What other countries have been reported to and are listed with Amnesty International as having employed torture?Are you going to issue the same indictment of the citizens of those countries as well? Aren't ALL member nations in the UN responsible for not forcing ALL countries to stop using torture? Using your assertion, aren't the citizens of all those countries responsible as well? Yes, I know it is easy to say that the US has a veto on the Security Council...but why not simply change the system?? Sitting back and just saying that they cannot is the same as the comparison to 1930's and 1940's Nazi Germany. Simply having a vote does not imply responsibilty, much less confer the ability to force the action (or non-action) of a government.This does not excuse torture...but nor does it solve it either. I believe you need to first figure out what makes humans CAPABLE of torture then you can address the REASONS that humans employ torture. --Randall ___ Heisenberg may have slept here If I had eight hours to chop down a tree, I'd spend six sharpening my xe. --Abraham Lincoln ___ - Original Message - From: Hakan Falk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2006 1:19 PM Subject: [Biofuel] Are Americans torturers or supporters of torture? US has not stopped torture, according to Amnesty http://wireservice.wired.com/wired/story.asp?section=BreakingstoryId=1519912 Who belive that they stopped? It casts a shadow over all Americans, who are responsible for their government. At least republicans are clearly to identify with what's going on. This especially elected representatives, who refuse to take a stand and stop their support of this administration. Why is there so little public actions to get rid of the current government? A massive rejection of its methods, would make them resign, but it is no signs of it. No actions are the same as compliancy, Americans of today, must have a very good understanding and sympathy for the Germans in the 1930's. They only let it happen also. Was Vietnam not enough, or should future generations have to feel more guilt of their ancestors behavior. Hakan ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Electric lynch motors
Zeke, Galapagos: Nothing, if they have not done it the last 8 month. I did not see any solar, not even on the houses. The tour boats are not small, generally they take 100 or more passengers, with spacious dining, entertainment and kitchen areas. I was very surprised by the contradictions between the vocal care for environment and the dirty tourist ships. There are many of them, but the Americans try to keep their mind in rest, by not allowing smoking. LOL Hakan At 01:06 04/05/2006, you wrote: Never heard of biscuit tin motors, but I have heard of lynch motors -- used for all kinds of little electric vehicals. I've also heard a bit about eletric boats and ferries -- they used to have one for president Roosevelt (Teddy) I think, for the official launch (equivalent to his Marine 1 helicopter now I guess). As he said, weight is not an issue, and nowadays, you can easily (technically, if you can afford it) put a kW or so of PV as a shade canopy on the barge and run it around all day, pollution free. I know that the galapagos islands were wanting to convert alot of their little tour boats, because they just tool around all day belching diesel (which also kills alot of the very wildlife the tourists are there to see, in the frequent fuel spills). Not sure how far along they've gotten on this plan. On 5/3/06, Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all A nice person wrote to me from the UK and told me about this, among other things - anyone know about 'biscuit tin motors'? You may be interested to know that I own a 1936 canal barge which I have had converted so that the propulsion system is an electric lynch motor. I dare say you already know about lynch motors but just in case you don't they are also known as 'biscuit tin motors' because they are so tiny that they will actually fit inside one. The lynch motor happily pushes along my boat which is 72 feet long and weighs in at over 20 tons Fortunately on a boat , batteries are a positive attribute because they become ballast to keep the hull down in the water. I usually have 1,650 amp hours of them onboard. The weak link is the fact that my budget didn't stretch to the kilowatt of photovoltaics needed to do the propulsion system justice so I don't travel very far at present : ( Hugh, who fitted the lynch motor has a website www.solarboat.co.uk which you may find interesting. Also: http://www.lemcoltd.com/ L.M.C. Manufacturers of Permanent Magnet DC Motors Lynch Motor Company Best Keith ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Are Americans torturers or supporters of torture?
Hey Randall, its greed just greed and again greed and only greed! Fritz - Original Message - From: Randall To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2006 3:19 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Are Americans torturers or supporters of torture? Hakan,To answer your question: No. Your questions imply that ALL Americans have proof about systematic and long-term torture, and quite simply I do not believe that you have the evidence to support that assertion. What other countries have been reported to and are listed with Amnesty International as having employed torture? Are you going to issue the same indictment of the citizens of those countries as well?Aren't ALL member nations in the UN responsible for not forcing ALL countries to stop using torture? Using your assertion, aren't the citizens of all those countries responsible as well? Yes, I know it is easy to say that the US has a veto on the Security Council...but why not simply change the system?? Sitting back and just saying that they cannot is the same as the comparison to 1930's and 1940's Nazi Germany.Simply having a vote does not imply responsibilty, much less confer the ability to force the action (or non-action) of a government. This does not excuse torture...but nor does it solve it either. I believe you need to first figure out what makes humans CAPABLE of torture then you can address the REASONS that humans employ torture.--Randall___ Heisenberg may have slept here "If I had eight hours to chop down a tree, I'd spend six sharpening my xe." --Abraham Lincoln___- Original Message - From: "Hakan Falk" [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.orgSent: Wednesday, May 03, 2006 1:19 PMSubject: [Biofuel] Are Americans torturers or supporters of torture? US has not stopped torture, according to Amnesty http://wireservice.wired.com/wired/story.asp?section=BreakingstoryId=1519912 Who belive that they stopped? It casts a shadow over all Americans, who are responsible for their government. At least republicans are clearly to identify with what's going on. This especially elected representatives, who refuse to take a stand and stop their support of this administration. Why is there so little public actions to get rid of the current government? A massive rejection of its methods, would make them resign, but it is no signs of it. No actions are the same as compliancy, Americans of today, must have a very good understanding and sympathy for the Germans in the 1930's. They only "let it happen" also. Was Vietnam not enough, or should future generations have to feel more guilt of their ancestors behavior. Hakan ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___Biofuel mailing listBiofuel@sustainablelists.orghttp://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.orgBiofuel at Journey to Forever:http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.htmlSearch the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages):http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] War on the cheap
It seems,Bushes an Co.never learned their Historylessons! Same thing happened to Napoleons Armee in cold Russia! Hitler made the same Mistake,now its Bushes Thanks god the rule works! Fritz - Original Message - From: D. Mindock To: Undisclosed-Recipient:; Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2006 3:31 PM Subject: [Biofuel] War on the cheap War on the cheapBy BOB KERRProvidence JournalMay 3, 2006, 05:54The Iraq war has been the war fought on the cheap - not enough body armor, not enough armor on vehicles, not enough night vision equipment.It has been the war in which packages from back home have had to fill some crucial needs.Now, we have chow call at the Greenwood Credit Union in Warwick, R.I. It's the latest in home-front intervention. It's partially in response to the unthinkable image of U.S. Marines approaching Iraqi citizens and asking for food because they do not have enough.There's a big barrel in the lobby of the credit union on Post Road in Warwick. It's decorated with ribbons and it's there because Karen Boucher-Andoscia's son, Nick Andoscia, called and asked his mother to send food.Nick's a Marine corporal. He was in Afghanistan last year, where there was enough to eat. He's in Iraq now even though his enlistment was up last year.He's one of those Marines who can't walk away. His unit, the 3rd Battalion of the 3rd Marines, was headed for Iraq and he just couldn't head for civilian life while those he had served with were heading to their second war."He extended," says Karen. "He told me, 'I really have to go. I can't let my guys go alone.' "There are a lot of stories like that. We don't hear them much. They're kind of personal.So Nick Andoscia went to Iraq. And hunger soon followed."I got a letter," says Karen. "And he had called me before that. He said, 'Send lots of tuna.' "Nick told his mother that he and the men in his unit were all about 10 pounds lighter in their first few weeks in Iraq. They were pulling 22-hour patrol shifts. They were getting two meals a day and they were not meals to remember."He told me the two meals just weren't cutting it. He said the Iraqi food was usually better. They were going to the Iraqis and basically saying, 'feed me.' "Karen started packing in that wartime tradition as old as mothers and sons. She packed a lot of the packaged tuna, not the canned.She happened to mention her hungry son to people she works with at Greenwood Credit Union, where she is a teller and has worked for 30 years.Pounds and pounds of food started showing up amid the daily business of loans and deposits and withdrawals. Marianne Barao, the branch manager, said it could be done, the credit union could become the place where people help feed hungry Marines who are risking their lives on a skimpy diet."We sent out 51 pounds this week," says Karen. "There are customers coming in saying, 'What do you need?' "The credit union is paying the cost of packing and shipping.Any packaged food is welcome. So are baby wipes because showers are even rarer than a full meal. And foot powder.Nick Andoscia, who is 22, is due to come home later this year. He wants to study criminal justice, his mother says, then go to work for a fire or police department.But for the next few months he will be on patrol in western Iraq, dealing with the heat and the dirt and the danger.The last thing he should have to worry about is an empty stomach. The last thing he should have to do is approach Iraqis and ask for food.You have to wonder what the gracious hosts must think when a fighting man from the richest country on earth comes to their door in search of something to eat.(Bob Kerr is a columnist for The Providence Journal. E-mail bkerr(at)projo.com.) ___Biofuel mailing listBiofuel@sustainablelists.orghttp://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.orgBiofuel at Journey to Forever:http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.htmlSearch the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages):http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Fw: I'm the Decider
It's a winner! By now, even those that voted for him might wear it - Original Message - From: Jason Katie [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2006 1:19 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Fw: I'm the Decider id wear it, no argument at all, whos going to be printing them? - Original Message - From: Appal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 11:57 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Fw: I'm the Decider Groovy dude!!! Where can I get the t-shirt? D. Mindock wrote: Subject: I'm the Decider Bush said the other day, I am the decider. The following is from dailykos.com. Well, it took me awhile, but I finally realized what I'm the decider reminds me of. It sounds like something a character in a Dr. Seuss book might say. So with apologies to the late Mr. Geisel, here is some idle speculation as to what else such a character might say: I'm the decider. I pick and I choose. I pick among whats. And choose among whos. And as I decide Each particular day The things I decide on All turn out that way. I decided on Freedom For all of Iraq. And now that we have it, I'm not looking back. I decided on tax cuts That just help the wealthy. And Medicare changes That aren't really healthy. And parklands and wetlands Who needs all that stuff? I decided that none Would be more than enough! I decided that schools All in all are the best The less that they teach And the more that they test. I decided those wages You need to get by Are much better spent On some CEO guy. I decided your Wade Which was versing your Roe Is terribly awful And just has to go. I decided that levees Are not really needed. Now when hurricanes come They can come unimpeded. That old Constitution? Well, I have decided Asjust goddam paper It should be derided. I've decided gay marriage Is icky and weird. Above all other things, It's the one to be feared. And Cheney and Rummy And Condi all know That I'm the Decider - They tell me it's so. I'm the Decider So watch what you say Or I may decide To have you whisked away. Or I'll tap your phones. Your e-mail I'll read. `cause I'm the Decider - Like Jesus decreed. Yes, I'm the Decider The finest alive And I'm nuking Iran. Now watch this drive! .. Garret Hinebauch 8th Grade English The American School in London One Waverley Place London NW8 0NP UK ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.5.1/327 - Release Date: 4/28/2006 ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.5.2/329 - Release Date: 5/2/2006 ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] War on the cheap
Fritz, Well, the sad thing is that this illegitimatewar is causing needless deaths and suffering on both sides, especially the Iraqi side.It is bankrupting the future of the USA. Now some might say that's good, but not if you're stuck here in the USA and will have to pay, one way or the other. Congess seems to be in fear of taking any actions to impeach Bush/Cheney. BushCo relishes divisiveness, chaos, war, debt so huge that it'd fill the Grand Canyon, etc., as long as he and his mega-rich cohorts all make out abundantly. They (Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld/Rice)are nothing more than thieves and thugs who've made it to the top of the pecking order. They (BushCo/Halliburton/Defense Contractors)are looting the country'swealth and it is all done in plain sight, and with the silent approval, thus complicity, of a totallyconfused Congress. Peace, D. Mindock - Original Message - From: Fritz Friesinger To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2006 10:21 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] War on the cheap It seems,Bushes an Co.never learned their Historylessons! Same thing happened to Napoleons Armee in cold Russia! Hitler made the same Mistake,now its Bushes Thanks god the rule works! Fritz - Original Message - From: D. Mindock To: Undisclosed-Recipient:; Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2006 3:31 PM Subject: [Biofuel] War on the cheap War on the cheapBy BOB KERRProvidence JournalMay 3, 2006, 05:54The Iraq war has been the war fought on the cheap - not enough body armor, not enough armor on vehicles, not enough night vision equipment.It has been the war in which packages from back home have had to fill some crucial needs.Now, we have chow call at the Greenwood Credit Union in Warwick, R.I. It's the latest in home-front intervention. It's partially in response to the unthinkable image of U.S. Marines approaching Iraqi citizens and asking for food because they do not have enough.There's a big barrel in the lobby of the credit union on Post Road in Warwick. It's decorated with ribbons and it's there because Karen Boucher-Andoscia's son, Nick Andoscia, called and asked his mother to send food.Nick's a Marine corporal. He was in Afghanistan last year, where there was enough to eat. He's in Iraq now even though his enlistment was up last year.He's one of those Marines who can't walk away. His unit, the 3rd Battalion of the 3rd Marines, was headed for Iraq and he just couldn't head for civilian life while those he had served with were heading to their second war."He extended," says Karen. "He told me, 'I really have to go. I can't let my guys go alone.' "There are a lot of stories like that. We don't hear them much. They're kind of personal.So Nick Andoscia went to Iraq. And hunger soon followed."I got a letter," says Karen. "And he had called me before that. He said, 'Send lots of tuna.' "Nick told his mother that he and the men in his unit were all about 10 pounds lighter in their first few weeks in Iraq. They were pulling 22-hour patrol shifts. They were getting two meals a day and they were not meals to remember."He told me the two meals just weren't cutting it. He said the Iraqi food was usually better. They were going to the Iraqis and basically saying, 'feed me.' "Karen started packing in that wartime tradition as old as mothers and sons. She packed a lot of the packaged tuna, not the canned.She happened to mention her hungry son to people she works with at Greenwood Credit Union, where she is a teller and has worked for 30 years.Pounds and pounds of food started showing up amid the daily business of loans and deposits and withdrawals. Marianne Barao, the branch manager, said it could be done, the credit union could become the place where people help feed hungry Marines who are risking their lives on a skimpy diet."We sent out 51 pounds this week," says Karen. "There are customers coming in saying, 'What do you need?' "The credit union is paying the cost of packing and shipping.Any packaged food is welcome. So are baby wipes because showers are even rarer than a full meal. And foot powder.Nick Andoscia, who is 22, is due to come home later this year. He wants to study criminal justice, his mother says, then go to work for a fire or police department.But for the next few months he will be on patrol in western Iraq, dealing with the heat and the dirt and the danger.The last thing he should have to worry about is an empty stomach. The last thing he should have to do is approach Iraqis and ask for food.You have to wonder what the gracious hosts must think when a fighting man from the richest country on earth comes to their door in search of something to
