Re: [Biofuel] seasonal burning
thanks. unfortunately, here is the reply from the link: Forbidden You don't have permission to access /pubs/crossref/2000/1999JD901113.shtml on this server. Your browser currently has the FunWebProducts plugin, which is not allowed at this site. To remove this from your system, please visit: http://www.funwebproducts.com/uninstall.html LuganoSarath G [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:For those interested in some data on biomass (forest and savanna burning).. here is a paper..http://www.agu.org/pubs/crossref/2000/1999JD901113.shtml I believe a lot more is available on the web..Sarath On 6/4/06, robert and benita rabello [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kirk McLoren wrote:Evenalong the coast, however, airborne pollutants that travel over thePacific from Asia contribute to the problem. Air pollution has become a global issue.robert luis rabello"The Edge of Justice"Adventure for Your Mindhttp://www.newadventure.ca___Biofuel mailing listBiofuel@sustainablelists.orghttp://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.orgBiofuel at Journey to Forever:http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.htmlSearch the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages):http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ __Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Healing with light
Yes you are right but I made the assumption that the integration period
was for one second. Well it would have to be a pretty darned bright
light to penetrate what was it 8 into tissue? Yikes! That would mean
the light could shine right through my arm! ;)
Joe
Kirk McLoren wrote:
A joule is a watt second. If you took 100 seconds to deliver a
joule then you would need a light output of 0.01 joules/second.
Kirk
*/Joe Street [EMAIL PROTECTED]/* wrote:
Holy crap I don't think they are using diodes to get that intensity. 4
joules/cm^2 Isn't that like 40 suns intensity? How do they keep from
burnig these tissues up?
Joe
Kirk McLoren wrote:
Thank you Mr Kelly for the fascinating information. I will try to
post
some url's for references I have found sometime today. I am at the
moment trying to get some information from Marubeni America Corp
re some
illuminators. The Doctor at U of Wisconsin said that the ir
penetrated
23cm at useful energy levels.I take that to be about 8 inches of
tissue.
Dosage was 4 joules per cm2 per treatment at the surface.
I had seen this stuff before but when faced with the possibility of
putting an injured stud down got very interested in accelerating
healing.
Kirk
*/Thomas Kelly /* wrote:
Bob,
You Wrote:
40%-wow, and how does this light get to the mitochondria? what
photosynthetic apparatus exists in the mitochondria that isn't
reported in
any current biochemistry textbook? This is an astounding revelation
if true. I googled around a bit and find nothing. Any hints as to
where to
look for support for such a claim?
This might take a while . you might think it's a stretch, but I
think
a relationship between light and energy harvest in the mitochondria
is at
least a possibility. I have no idea of a specific %, or how such a
relationship would serve a purpose . most cells of multicellular
organisms don't get much exposure to light.
When one examines the ATP harvested in mitochondria by the
oxidation of
organic compounds (Oxidative Phophorylation)
and the formation of ATP within plants cells utilizing light energy
(Photophosphorylation) the similarities far outweigh the
differences. Both
involve elecrons being passed from higher to lower energy levels
through a
series of electron transport molecules. Both involve using the energy
released in the formation of proton (H+) gradients across membranes.
Both
include special membrane passageways (ATP synthetase complexes)
that allow
the H+ to flow down the gradient through the otherwise impermeable
membrane
(to H+) and capture the energy they release in ATP molecules. The key
difference is the source of energy. The question seems to be: Can
light
energy increase mitochondrial energy harvest?
Biology (5th Edition) by Helena Curtis N. Sue Barnes
Mechanisms of Stomatal Movements pp. 653 - 655.
It has long been known that the osmotic movement of water is
involved in
the opening and closing of the stomata.
the critical factor affecting the osmotic movement of water
into
and out of the cells is the potassium ion (K+).
With an increase in K+ concentration, the stomata open, and with a
decrease
they close.
Hydrogen ions (H+) are pumped in the opposite direction,
(of K+),
producing a decreased H+ conc within the guard cells of open stomata.
The active transport of K+ ions between the guard cells and the
surrounding epidermal cells is, of course, an energy-requiring
process. The
energy source is not yet known, but, on the basis of present
evidence, one
of two possibilities seem likely.
1. (ATP formed by photosynthesis in chloroplasts of the guard cells)
2. Another possibility is that the transport of H+ ions, in a
direction
opposite to that of the K+ ions, establishes an electrochemical
gradient
down which the K+ ions move. (My asterisks) If this should be
the case,
the transport of K+ ions into and out of the guard cells - and thus,
the
opening and closing of the stomata - would be
yet another example of a vital process powered by a chemiosmotic
mechanism
(page 197).
p. 197 Describes how energy is harvested by mitochondria as a
result of
the formation of a proton gradient (H+ gradient) between the
matrix and
the intermembranal space of mitochondria. Potential energy stored
in the
gradient is
Re: [Biofuel] Healing with light
this is an Infrared LED, so you wouldn't see the light, but rather feel the
heat.
Joe Street wrote:
Yes you are right but I made the assumption that the integration period
was for one second. Well it would have to be a pretty darned bright
light to penetrate what was it 8 into tissue? Yikes! That would mean
the light could shine right through my arm! ;)
Joe
Kirk McLoren wrote:
A joule is a watt second. If you took 100 seconds to deliver a
joule then you would need a light output of 0.01 joules/second.
Kirk
*/Joe Street [EMAIL PROTECTED]/* wrote:
Holy crap I don't think they are using diodes to get that intensity. 4
joules/cm^2 Isn't that like 40 suns intensity? How do they keep from
burnig these tissues up?
Joe
Kirk McLoren wrote:
Thank you Mr Kelly for the fascinating information. I will try to
post
some url's for references I have found sometime today. I am at the
moment trying to get some information from Marubeni America Corp
re some
illuminators. The Doctor at U of Wisconsin said that the ir
penetrated
23cm at useful energy levels.I take that to be about 8 inches of
tissue.
Dosage was 4 joules per cm2 per treatment at the surface.
I had seen this stuff before but when faced with the possibility of
putting an injured stud down got very interested in accelerating
healing.
Kirk
*/Thomas Kelly /* wrote:
Bob,
You Wrote:
40%-wow, and how does this light get to the mitochondria? what
photosynthetic apparatus exists in the mitochondria that isn't
reported in
any current biochemistry textbook? This is an astounding revelation
if true. I googled around a bit and find nothing. Any hints as to
where to
look for support for such a claim?
This might take a while . you might think it's a stretch, but I
think
a relationship between light and energy harvest in the mitochondria
is at
least a possibility. I have no idea of a specific %, or how such a
relationship would serve a purpose . most cells of multicellular
organisms don't get much exposure to light.
When one examines the ATP harvested in mitochondria by the
oxidation of
organic compounds (Oxidative Phophorylation)
and the formation of ATP within plants cells utilizing light energy
(Photophosphorylation) the similarities far outweigh the
differences. Both
involve elecrons being passed from higher to lower energy levels
through a
series of electron transport molecules. Both involve using the energy
released in the formation of proton (H+) gradients across membranes.
Both
include special membrane passageways (ATP synthetase complexes)
that allow
the H+ to flow down the gradient through the otherwise impermeable
membrane
(to H+) and capture the energy they release in ATP molecules. The key
difference is the source of energy. The question seems to be: Can
light
energy increase mitochondrial energy harvest?
Biology (5th Edition) by Helena Curtis N. Sue Barnes
Mechanisms of Stomatal Movements pp. 653 - 655.
It has long been known that the osmotic movement of water is
involved in
the opening and closing of the stomata.
the critical factor affecting the osmotic movement of water
into
and out of the cells is the potassium ion (K+).
With an increase in K+ concentration, the stomata open, and with a
decrease
they close.
Hydrogen ions (H+) are pumped in the opposite direction,
(of K+),
producing a decreased H+ conc within the guard cells of open stomata.
The active transport of K+ ions between the guard cells and the
surrounding epidermal cells is, of course, an energy-requiring
process. The
energy source is not yet known, but, on the basis of present
evidence, one
of two possibilities seem likely.
1. (ATP formed by photosynthesis in chloroplasts of the guard cells)
2. Another possibility is that the transport of H+ ions, in a
direction
opposite to that of the K+ ions, establishes an electrochemical
gradient
down which the K+ ions move. (My asterisks) If this should be
the case,
the transport of K+ ions into and out of the guard cells - and thus,
the
opening and closing of the stomata - would be
yet another example of a vital process powered by a chemiosmotic
mechanism
(page 197).
p. 197 Describes how energy is harvested by mitochondria as a
result of
the formation of a proton gradient (H+ gradient) between the
matrix and
[Biofuel] And now a brief chuckle...
Do we need a constitutional amendment? Is that the most important issue facing the country today -- gay marriage? We were off last week, so apparently we must have caught bin Laden. --Jay Leno You know what's interesting about this whole thing? According to polls, 51 percent of Americans do not approve of gay marriage, but 70 percent of Americans do not approve of President Bush. So gay marriage is actually more popular than he is. --Jay Leno Do you notice gay marriage didn't become a big Republican priority until all their members started going to prison? --Jay Leno Donald Rumsfeld was in Vietnam this week. President Bush was supposed to go, but his dad got him out of it. --Jay Leno A person was caught trying to jump over the White House fence after throwing a package over it. Turns out it was just Hillary Clinton with carpet samples. --Jay Leno How annoying is this? Senator Hillary Clinton calling for a return of the 55 mile an hour speed limit. When people in L.A. heard about this, they said, 'What? Cars can go that fast?' --Jay Leno Here's something fascinating. Honda has announced it's developed technology that links a person's thoughts to a machine. It uses brain signals to control a robot's movements, to which Al Gore said, 'Been there, done that.' --Jay Leno Did you hear about this? Homeland Security is cutting funding to New York City ... and raising funding for Nebraska. Well, at least the corn will sleep better. --David Letterman This was a little frightening. Over the weekend, the Royal Mounted police up in Canada ... busted a group of Canadian terrorists -- a Canadian al Qaeda group. About 19 of them. Their motto was: 'Death to America, ey?' ... The Canadian terrorist group was led by Canadian mastermind, Gordy bin Laden. --David Letterman This kind of thing usually happens once or twice a summer down in Washington. Yesterday, a guy hopped the fence at the White House. Pretty scary. Thank god at the last minute Dick Cheney picked him off. ... And then, today, another guy was arrested for trying to climb Condoleezza Rice. --David Letterman Let's begin tonight right here in New York, New York. The city's so nice, it was attacked by international terrorists twice. So naturally, last week, the Department of Homeland Security... announced a cut in anti-terrorism grants to New York and Washington, D.C. by 40%. ... Now to some, cutting anti-terror money to the two cities that have already suffered major terrorist attacks might sound, I don't know, insane. ... So, if New York's funding is being slashed, where is all the money going? Apparently, it's being used to boost the defense budgets of terrorist hot spots like Charlotte, Louisville and Omaha, Nebraska. Apparently, Homeland Security distributes the terror funds on the basis of what item your city has the world's largest ball of. ... Now, I can understand the concern over Omaha. That city is of course under constant threat from renowned Midwestern terrorist Omaha bin Laden. –Jon Stewart Adding insult to injury, one of the reasons New York's funding was cut is that, according to Homeland Security's analysis of potential terror targets, the number of New York's national icons and monuments is zero. ... In the report, ... the Brooklyn Bridge -- the world's first steel wire suspension bridge -- was classified merely as a 'bridge.' The Empire State building is referred to simply as 'tall office building.' And as for the Statue of Liberty, the Department of Homeland Security has recently classified her as 'a giant, green water whore.' --Jon Stewart On the formula for allocating Homeland Security anti-terror grants: It's believed to be the total population of your city divided by square mileage times Baptists over synagogues divided by the square root of the number of Waffle Houses over swimming holes. All that times the ratio of guns to Spanish language radio stations times zero. Plus, whether or not where you live voted for Bush. ... To most Americans, New York isn't even in America. It's more like part of 'Gayjewistan.' ... If you want to truly preserve the iconic American community, you have to throw money at a certain small town -- a place where everyone knows their neighbor, where you can leave your doors unlocked without fear, where hard work and traditional values are all that stands between you and a better life. ... It doesn't exist, but it just got $500 million from Michael Chertoff. --/Daily Show/ correspondent Rob Corddry ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Ethanol for diesel engines
Hi, this one fuel combination is interesting. I've never heard about such possibility before: http://www.greencarcongress.com/2006/06/xcelplus_acquir.html -- Tomas Juknevicius ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Kicking the oil habit
Mike, I had to live with the guy. You have no idea the damage he did to the state. Steve - Original Message - From: Mike Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 6:49 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Kicking the oil habit Unfortunately. I am not a Loeb fan! Steve Knox wrote: Mike, I share your view of the Union Leader, but they do have a readership. Steve Knox - Original Message - From: Mike Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Monday, June 05, 2006 7:15 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Kicking the oil habit My least favorite newspaper in the world. Look up Hush, you Muskies on the web. -Weaver Steve Knox wrote: I wish that I shared Robert Redford's confidence that Americans are way out in front of our leaders in facing our toughest national challenges. After the Memorial Day Weekend, the Manchester Union Leader, which is a statewide paper, ran an editorial about speeding on New Hampshire's Interstate Highways. They suggested that since most people were driving between 70 and 80 mph, we should raise the speed limit. Several days later they said how the response to that editorial was overwhelming in support. They said it was one of the greatest responses they had ever gotten. Speed reduces even further the already low mpg that most cars get. We can wish and hope that a majority of the American people are ready to face the challenge, but I'm not convinced. Steve Knox - Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Monday, June 05, 2006 9:26 AM Subject: [Biofuel] Kicking the oil habit http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/05/30/redford.oil/index.html Commentary: Kicking the oil habit By Robert Redford Special to CNN Tuesday, May 30, 2006; Posted: 4:55 p.m. EDT (20:55 GMT) Editor's note: Robert Redford is an award-winning actor, director, producer and founder of the Sundance Institute and Film Festival. Redford also is a businessman and philanthropist and has long supported various environmental causes. Robert Redford: America is ready to kick the oil habit. SUNDANCE, Utah (CNN) -- Today the American people are way out in front of our leaders. We're ready to face our toughest national challenges, and we deserve new and forward-looking solutions and leadership. The recent surge in gas prices has touched a raw nerve for many around the country, reminding us of an economy that is increasingly uncertain for the middle-class, a growing addiction to oil that draws us ever closer to dictators and despots, and a fragile global position with a climate that is increasingly out of balance. I believe America is ready to kick the oil habit and launch a new movement for real solutions and a better future. Something is happening all across the country. People are coming together and demanding new answers. A grassroots movement is gathering today to promote solutions, like renewable fuels, clean electricity, more efficient cars, and green buildings that use less energy -- all of which are exciting alternatives that rebuild our communities even as they cut pollution and create good jobs. And, when people come together to invest themselves in building a better future, we are not only helping to solve our energy crisis, but we are taking back our democracy itself. You can see this change in many places. In California this November, voters will be offered an initiative that cuts the use of oil by 25 percent and creates new funding to support innovation and cutting edge technology. Austin, Texas, is leading a growing number of cities in calling for car companies to produce plug-in hybrid vehicles that can go hundreds of miles on a gallon of gas. New Mexico has joined the Chicago Climate Exchange, pledging to reduce its carbon emissions, and at the same time becoming a national leader in creating a state-of-the-art clean energy economy. In Minnesota they have jump-started a new biofuels industry driven by farmer-owned co-ops that are putting more money back into rural communities and lifting up people's lives. Cities like Seattle are joining with others around the world and taking on goals for green development, while states like Colorado are passing bond initiatives for transit and new requirements for clean energy. Recently, a dynamic new campaign launched to seize and grow these opportunities and break our energy dependence. It's called KickTheOilHabit.org, and it has the backing of a diverse coalition of organizations. Its first action was to challenge oil companies to double the number of renewable fuel pumps at their stations within the year and pledge to offer E85 ethanol fuel at half of all gas stations within the decade. This is a simple clear action that the oil companies can do today. But it is only a first step. Many others are ready to be put in action despite industry claims to the contrary. In coming months, this campaign, which is based
[Biofuel] Online sources for self study - Black Bodies
Hi everyone, I know of some descent resources for electronic circuits, software development, and a bunch of other stuff. However, I've come up with nuthin' for black bodies which contains both a practical guide for passive solar collection and the analytical/mathematical tools for theoretical modeling. Once I have that, I'm good to go, already having one pretty good general text on heat transfer (J.P. Holman, seventh ed.). Joe, I know you mentioned some work you did with thin films (if my memory serves me right). Can anyone point to a good on-line source? I'd even be happy with a textbook recommendation. -Redler ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Diesel news
*J.D. Power Associates forecast last month that the share of diesel-powered cars and light trucks in the US will almost quadruple by 2015*—rising from 3.2% in 2005 to 11.8% by 2015—driven by increasing consumer demand for the more fuel-efficient platforms. * Chrysler Group today unveiled the first diesel-powered, full-size sport-utility vehicle (SUV) to be offered in the United States*. The 2007 Jeep Grand Cherokee equipped with a 3.0-liter common rail turbo diesel (CRD) engine will arrive in showrooms in the first quarter of 2007. More...http://www.greencarcongress.com/2006/06/chrysler_introd.html *The /Detroit Free Press/ reports http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060528/BUSINESS01/605280708/1002/RSS02 that Volkswagen of America will drop the diesel versions of the Jetta, Golf and Beetle models from its US line-up for the 2007 model year* due to their inability to meet the new, incoming stricter emissions standards nationwide. More...http://www.greencarcongress.com/2006/05/vw_to_drop_dies.html I hope *some* of them come with a stick shift ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Water: a commodity or a fundamental human right?
Interesting confleunce of failure of foreign aid and water as a human right. One of the important facts left out of the information on water and Bolivia is that the IMF put stings on a loan to Bolivia to improve water infrastructure which was sadly in need of repair. The IMF required that Bolivia privatize the ownership of their water distribution system before it would lend them any money. Bechtel Corp. got the contract and immediately increased the price of water by 60% and later doubling and tripling the price of water. Peasants who couldn't afford the price started collecting rainwater and were sued by Bechtel who claimed that even the rainwater had to be paid for. As a result the peasants protested and Bechtel was thrown out. The water problem led to the election of leftest Morales. Interesting how money from the IMF that had strings to supposedly promote ownership by large corporations had the opposite effect. Ken --- Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 12 percent of the world's population uses 85 percent of its water, and these 12 percent do not live in the Third World. Same as energy, same as food, same as money. Actually there is only one problem, IMHO, and this is it. For a glimpse at water issues worldwide in 2002 see: http://snipurl.com/qcpd Re: [biofuel] Sewage Waste Water - was: Somewhat OT: Animal Waste Best Keith --- New at Anup Shah's Global Issues web site. http://www.globalissues.org * Trade-Related Issues * Sustainable Development * Water Much of the world lives without access to clean water. A recognized global water crisis appears to come not so much from water scarcity and over-population but from management of this precious resource. Privatization has long been encouraged as the means to efficient management and provision of service. However, the result has been that often prices have increased, out of reach from poor people around the world. This commoditization of water goes to the heart of safe water access issues. This article looks into this issue in more detail. http://www.globalissues.org/TradeRelated/Development/water/ Introduction-A Water Management Crisis Leading to Lack of Access to Safe Water for Much of the World * Coca Cola vs. Indian Farmers: Luxury vs. Necessity * Privatization in both rich and poor countries can mean many cannot access safe water * Water Access Policy: Following Neoliberal Ideology * Privatization vs. Democratic Accountability of Management of a Fundamental Resource * Water: A Human Right or a Commodity? * Water and Environmental Issues * International Agreements and Action * More Information ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] 3A molecular Sieve and Methanol recovery Results
Hello all,
3A Molecular Sieve and
Methanol Recovery
I first separated the
glycerine mix using Phosphoric Acid. This fragment has a high percentage of
the excess methanol
used to produce methyl
esters.
I then recovered the
methanol using a simple still and condenser. The methanol flowed into containers
that each had 5 pounds
(2270g) of new
zeolite. Each container was marked
such that in addition to
the zeolite, there would be 2 gal (7.6L) of methanol. Container #1 received the
first 2 gal of recovered
methanol, container #2 the
next 2 gal, etc.
My hope was, that by
comparing final mass of zeolite to initial mass, I could get a sense of how much
water was coming
over with the methanol and
what was a reasonable cut-off point for the process. A Control was included. The
Control had 5 pounds
of zeolite plus 2 gal of
methanol from a methanol barrel. This was presumed to be relatively pure
methanol.
This was done in my basement
and backyard; not under stringent laboratory conditions. I have some concerns
regarding
the procedure followed,
and the results produced. The following is simply a chart of the results
gotten.
Feel free to
question/comment.
Container Initial Mass(g) Final Mass (g) Change
% Change %
Change
in Mass(g) in
Mass
vs
Control
Control
2270
2577.7
+ 307.7
+ 13.6
-
1
2270
2636.3
+ 366.3
+ 16.1 +
2.5
2
2270 2671.5
+ 401.5
+ 17.7
+
4.1
3
2270
2795.3
+ 525.3
+ 23.1
+ 9.5
4
2270
2924.4
+ 654.4
+ 28.8+
15.2
Container
Temp Range of Mix During Distillation
1
150 165 F (66 - 74
C)
2
165 177 F (74 - 81
C)
3
175
- 188 F (79.5 87
C)
4
188 210 F
(87.5 99 C)
Tom
- Original Message -
From:
Thomas
Kelly
To: biofuel
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 8:37 AM
Subject: [Biofuel] 3A molecular Sieve and
Methanol recovery
Hello to all,
3A molecular sieve is on
its way. As I understand it, selectively absorbs water from a water-alcohol
solution thereby drying the alcohol . sounds too good to be
true.
In my previous attempt
at recovering methanol from the crude glycerine split from the glycerine
cocktail, a combination of greed and stupidity on my part resulted in methanol
w. water in it. ("Water in Recovered Methanol?" 4/28/06).
I've tweaked the
condenser. I've tied the cooling of methanol vapors ( much hot water)
to my wash tank. Will use the hot water generated by the cooling of methanol
to washing a batch of BD.
I will keep close eye on
temp. and be patient. Do not allow the temp to rise above 160F until
distillation stops at this temp.
Distillate produced in
150 - 160F rangewas mostly methanol. Temp increaseseemed to slow
down at 150F. I take this to mean a phase change is occurring (added heat is
converting liquid Methanol to gaseous Methanol). Above 160F temp seemed to
rise more quickly. I take this to mean that much of the methanol is
gone.
My plan is to have 4
containers, each with 5 lbs (~ 2.24 Kg) of 3A molecular sieve. Allow 2 gallons
of distillate to flow into each container. Occasionally swirl the contents of
the containers over the next 24 hrs.
I'll strain out the 3A
molecular sieve and re-weigh. If it works, I should be able to dry the
methanol and from the changes in mass of the molecular sieve, get a sense of
the actual volume of methanol I can reasonably hope to recover from a given
volume of crude glycerine. I also hope to get a sense of the temp cut-off
point.
As I understand it, 3A
molecular Sieve will absorb about 25% ofits weight in water. If, for
example the molecular sieve in container 1 (1st 2 gal distillate) increases by
5%, the next by 8%, the next by 15%, and the last by 25%, and additional Mol.
Sieve continues to gain mass, I would think that 6 or 7 gallons of methanol is
a reasonable
expectation for the volume of co-product I'm
distilling.
Suggestions ... including
"Stop, you have it all wrong!"
would be appreciated. It's tues. Friday looks
like a good day to brew; Saturday, to wash/distill. There's time for
suggestions.
Tom
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Re: [Biofuel] And now a brief chuckle...
So...does that mean that 30% of the 49% of people who approve of gay marriage also approve of Bush? Assuming a Gaussian distribution for all samples and a neo-conservative model for logic and reason: 17.7% of Americans approve of gay marriage AND president Bush! Since Bush's approval rating is at 30%, one can only conclude that more than half of his supporters approve of gay marriage. ...those wacky republicans! :-) -Redler Mike Weaver wrote: Do we need a constitutional amendment? Is that the most important issue facing the country today -- gay marriage? We were off last week, so apparently we must have caught bin Laden. --Jay Leno You know what's interesting about this whole thing? According to polls, 51 percent of Americans do not approve of gay marriage, but 70 percent of Americans do not approve of President Bush. So gay marriage is actually more popular than he is. --Jay Leno Do you notice gay marriage didn't become a big Republican priority until all their members started going to prison? --Jay Leno Donald Rumsfeld was in Vietnam this week. President Bush was supposed to go, but his dad got him out of it. --Jay Leno A person was caught trying to jump over the White House fence after throwing a package over it. Turns out it was just Hillary Clinton with carpet samples. --Jay Leno How annoying is this? Senator Hillary Clinton calling for a return of the 55 mile an hour speed limit. When people in L.A. heard about this, they said, 'What? Cars can go that fast?' --Jay Leno Here's something fascinating. Honda has announced it's developed technology that links a person's thoughts to a machine. It uses brain signals to control a robot's movements, to which Al Gore said, 'Been there, done that.' --Jay Leno Did you hear about this? Homeland Security is cutting funding to New York City ... and raising funding for Nebraska. Well, at least the corn will sleep better. --David Letterman This was a little frightening. Over the weekend, the Royal Mounted police up in Canada ... busted a group of Canadian terrorists -- a Canadian al Qaeda group. About 19 of them. Their motto was: 'Death to America, ey?' ... The Canadian terrorist group was led by Canadian mastermind, Gordy bin Laden. --David Letterman This kind of thing usually happens once or twice a summer down in Washington. Yesterday, a guy hopped the fence at the White House. Pretty scary. Thank god at the last minute Dick Cheney picked him off. ... And then, today, another guy was arrested for trying to climb Condoleezza Rice. --David Letterman Let's begin tonight right here in New York, New York. The city's so nice, it was attacked by international terrorists twice. So naturally, last week, the Department of Homeland Security... announced a cut in anti-terrorism grants to New York and Washington, D.C. by 40%. ... Now to some, cutting anti-terror money to the two cities that have already suffered major terrorist attacks might sound, I don't know, insane. ... So, if New York's funding is being slashed, where is all the money going? Apparently, it's being used to boost the defense budgets of terrorist hot spots like Charlotte, Louisville and Omaha, Nebraska. Apparently, Homeland Security distributes the terror funds on the basis of what item your city has the world's largest ball of. ... Now, I can understand the concern over Omaha. That city is of course under constant threat from renowned Midwestern terrorist Omaha bin Laden. –Jon Stewart Adding insult to injury, one of the reasons New York's funding was cut is that, according to Homeland Security's analysis of potential terror targets, the number of New York's national icons and monuments is zero. ... In the report, ... the Brooklyn Bridge -- the world's first steel wire suspension bridge -- was classified merely as a 'bridge.' The Empire State building is referred to simply as 'tall office building.' And as for the Statue of Liberty, the Department of Homeland Security has recently classified her as 'a giant, green water whore.' --Jon Stewart On the formula for allocating Homeland Security anti-terror grants: It's believed to be the total population of your city divided by square mileage times Baptists over synagogues divided by the square root of the number of Waffle Houses over swimming holes. All that times the ratio of guns to Spanish language radio stations times zero. Plus, whether or not where you live voted for Bush. ... To most Americans, New York isn't even in America. It's more like part of 'Gayjewistan.' ... If you want to truly preserve the iconic American community, you have to throw money at a certain small town -- a place where everyone knows their neighbor, where you can leave your doors unlocked without fear, where hard work and traditional values are all that stands between you and a better life. ... It doesn't exist, but it just got $500 million
Re: [Biofuel] Ethanol for diesel engines
Hi Tomas Hi, this one fuel combination is interesting. I've never heard about such possibility before: http://www.greencarcongress.com/2006/06/xcelplus_acquir.html -- Tomas Juknevicius Fuel-Cycle Energy and Emission Impacts of Ethanol-Diesel Blends in Urban Buses and Farming Tractors, (July 2003, 992kb pdf) http://www.transportation.anl.gov/pdfs/TA/280.pdf The Manual for the Home and Farm Production of Alcohol Fuel by S.W. Mathewson Chapter 3 UTILIZATION OF ALCOHOL FUELS Diesel Engines http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel_library/ethanol_manual/manual3.html Best Keith ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Water: a commodity or a fundamental human right?
Hi Ken Interesting confleunce of failure of foreign aid and water as a human right. Same as energy, same as food, same as money. One of the important facts left out of the information on water and Bolivia is that the IMF put stings on a loan to Bolivia to improve water infrastructure which was sadly in need of repair. The IMF required that Bolivia privatize the ownership of their water distribution system before it would lend them any money. Bechtel Corp. got the contract and immediately increased the price of water by 60% and later doubling and tripling the price of water. Peasants who couldn't afford the price started collecting rainwater and were sued by Bechtel who claimed that even the rainwater had to be paid for. As a result the peasants protested and Bechtel was thrown out. The water problem led to the election of leftest Morales. Interesting how money from the IMF that had strings to supposedly promote ownership by large corporations had the opposite effect. Yes. Didn't Anup Shah cover that? I thought he does. It was in the link I added in the original post: For a glimpse at water issues worldwide in 2002 see: http://snipurl.com/qcpd Re: [biofuel] Sewage Waste Water - was: Somewhat OT: Animal Waste One article mentioned: Bolivia's War Over Water reports from the scene by Jim Shultz, executive director, The Democracy Center -- In April 2000 Bolivia grabbed the world's attention when the city of Cochabamba erupted in a public uprising over water prices. In 1999, following World Bank advice, Bolivia had granted a 40-year privatization lease to a subsidiary of the Bechtel Corporation, giving it control over the water on which more than half a million people survive. Immediately the company doubled and tripled water rates for some of South America's poorest families. The entire city went on a general strike. The military killed a seventeen-year-old boy and arrested the water rights leaders. But after four months of unrest the Bolivian government forced Bechtel out of Cochambamba. http://www.democracyctr.org/onlinenews/water.html New link: http://www.democracyctr.org/waterwar/ Bolivia's War Over Water There are 13 articles in the list archives on Bolivia and Bechtel, and quite a few more on Morales. This was the most recent on Bechtel: http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/msg59686.html [Biofuel] Bolivia: Bechtel surrenders 25 Jan 2006 Best Keith Ken --- Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 12 percent of the world's population uses 85 percent of its water, and these 12 percent do not live in the Third World. Same as energy, same as food, same as money. Actually there is only one problem, IMHO, and this is it. For a glimpse at water issues worldwide in 2002 see: http://snipurl.com/qcpd Re: [biofuel] Sewage Waste Water - was: Somewhat OT: Animal Waste Best Keith --- New at Anup Shah's Global Issues web site. http://www.globalissues.org * Trade-Related Issues * Sustainable Development * Water Much of the world lives without access to clean water. A recognized global water crisis appears to come not so much from water scarcity and over-population but from management of this precious resource. Privatization has long been encouraged as the means to efficient management and provision of service. However, the result has been that often prices have increased, out of reach from poor people around the world. This commoditization of water goes to the heart of safe water access issues. This article looks into this issue in more detail. http://www.globalissues.org/TradeRelated/Development/water/ Introduction-A Water Management Crisis Leading to Lack of Access to Safe Water for Much of the World * Coca Cola vs. Indian Farmers: Luxury vs. Necessity * Privatization in both rich and poor countries can mean many cannot access safe water * Water Access Policy: Following Neoliberal Ideology * Privatization vs. Democratic Accountability of Management of a Fundamental Resource * Water: A Human Right or a Commodity? * Water and Environmental Issues * International Agreements and Action * More Information ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel
Re: [Biofuel] way off topic
Bob, One of the best places to check out the tides is the Hopewell Rocks in New Brunswick. If you can't make it there, then the tidal bore in Truro is O.K (/Heresy a little dull really /heresy). Myself, I loved the waterfront in Halifax. The Marine Museum of the Atlantic had some interesting exhibits, particularly about the Titanic and the Halifax Explosion. If you are lucky there may be some tall ships in town as well. Have fun, Doug -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of bob allen Sent: June 6, 2006 1:02 PM To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] way off topic mark manchester wrote: You were not specific, Bob, about what sort of advice you had in mind. I will only be in NS for about 4 days so I was looking for recommendations on a few really neat places that I ought to see. The only thing I want to see for sure is the Bay of Fundy and the record tides. Naturally, I have a daughter at university in Halifax (I have daughters everywhere). Were you wondering about higher education, perhaps? But I must add to the advice of these fine men that you'll find lovely food and scenery (they don't call it new scotland for nothin'). Highlands? Orchards? Lobsters? Breathtaking ocean vistas? Within the city limits of Halifax are TWO BIG FRESHWATER LAKES. Bring a picnic, wear a hat. Cheers, Jesse From: Joe Street [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: Unlisted Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2006 16:25:54 -0400 To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] way off topic And watch you don't run into someone while driving. Pedestrians rule on the east coast. Cars will stop in front of you for no apparent reasonbecause a pedestrian shows a sign of wanting to cross. I like that! Enjoy your trip. The restaurant in the harbour where they moor the Bluenose II had great food when I was there but it was many moons ago If you have the ability to cook your own, go to the wharf and buy your lobsters directly from the fishermen (fisherpeople). Joe Mike Weaver wrote: Go through Lunenberg, and the state park (Kejimkijik or similar) in the middle is nice. Last trip I just hugged the coast - it's hard to go wrong. I liked Halifax - particularly the Historic Properties. Have a donair. There will fresh peas - they are wonderful. The lobsters are also great. It'll be a great trip. -Mike bob allen wrote: anybody from Nova Scotia? I am heading that way in a couple of weeks for a family vacation and would like some advice. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ -- Bob Allen http://ozarker.org/bob Science is what we have learned about how to keep from fooling ourselves - Richard Feynman ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Ethanol for diesel engines
Keith, If I remembered right, the Swedish diesel buses are running on a wood alcohol mix, with some sort of additive. In Sweden it is now more and more common that the buses use biofuel. Hakan At 18:47 07/06/2006, you wrote: Hi Tomas Hi, this one fuel combination is interesting. I've never heard about such possibility before: http://www.greencarcongress.com/2006/06/xcelplus_acquir.html -- Tomas Juknevicius Fuel-Cycle Energy and Emission Impacts of Ethanol-Diesel Blends in Urban Buses and Farming Tractors, (July 2003, 992kb pdf) http://www.transportation.anl.gov/pdfs/TA/280.pdf The Manual for the Home and Farm Production of Alcohol Fuel by S.W. Mathewson Chapter 3 UTILIZATION OF ALCOHOL FUELS Diesel Engines http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel_library/ethanol_manual/manual3.html Best Keith ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] high energy costs fuel spike in green home construction
High Energy Costs Fuel Spike in Green Home Construction http://www.alternate-energy.net/N/news.php?detail=n1149694010.news Get your daily alternative energy news Alternate Energy Resource Network 1000+ news sources-resources updated daily http://www.alternate-energy.net Next Generation Grid http://groups.yahoo.com/group/next_generation_grid/ Tomorrow-energy http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tomorrow-energy/ Alternative Energy Politics http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Alternative_Energy_Politics/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Online sources for self study - Black Bodies
Hi Mike; I don't have any references I can recommend but I'll tell you what I did. I dry etched silicon using flourine ions in a reactive ion etcher. Making use of native polymer contamination of the surface and carefully controling the presence of oxygen radicals I was able to form a dense structure of columns roughly 100 nm wide and 400 nm tall that when viewed with an electron microscope look something like a forest. The nanoconvolution of the surface on a scale less than the wavelength of visible light results in an extremely antireflective black surface similar to a moth's eye. (BTW this is why moths see so well in the dark) The silicon material absorbs all the incoming radiation in the visible and longer wavelengths and even most of the ultaviolet I'd guess as low as 198 nm although I haven't tested it. Silicon is roughly similar to iron in its heat conducting properties so this film would be very good for a passive solar system. I think I could build a machine to sputter silicon on pipes and etch it in situ if I had the resources. Joe Mike Redler wrote: Hi everyone, I know of some descent resources for electronic circuits, software development, and a bunch of other stuff. However, I've come up with nuthin' for black bodies which contains both a practical guide for passive solar collection and the analytical/mathematical tools for theoretical modeling. Once I have that, I'm good to go, already having one pretty good general text on heat transfer (J.P. Holman, seventh ed.). Joe, I know you mentioned some work you did with thin films (if my memory serves me right). Can anyone point to a good on-line source? I'd even be happy with a textbook recommendation. -Redler ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Grit plan to cut greenhouse emissions a dud: researchers
I didn't know that you guys in Canada had the same problem as we do in the US. Our govenment is totally controlled by big corporations. Ken --- A. Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The only real plan (Liberal or Conservative) is to keep big business feeding their election campaigns... They (big biz) won't feed the election coffers unless they're allowed to continue business as usual... Us little guys and home producers couldn't hope to contribute at big biz levels, even if we were of a mind to... Money talks. BS walks and big biz hasn't the mindset to change anything - unless it increases the bottom line... Cynical? You bet... Al - Original Message - From: Darryl McMahon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2006 8:37 AM Subject: [Biofuel] Grit plan to cut greenhouse emissions a dud: researchers The results of the study come as no surprise, sadly. The Liberal administrations were more interested in photo-ops than results. While the new Conservative administration claims to have a made-in-Canada plan, suspicions are it's a made-in-neocon-USA plan. Personally, I'd welcome any real plan on the subject. http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Politics/2006/05/28/pf-1602651.html May 28, 2006 By DENNIS BUECKERT OTTAWA (CP) - The Liberals' $12-billion plan to implement the Kyoto Protocol over seven years would have been largely ineffective, says an as-yet unpublished report by the C.D. Howe Institute. The report, marked do not cite or circulate, was written before the current government axed Project Green, as the plan was dubbed, and may have been a factor in the Conservatives' decision to scrap it. Project Green largely relied on voluntary measures and incentives which have been shown not to work, says the study, which sarcastically calls the package Project Dream. This policy approach will fail dramatically to meet national objectives and yet will entail a substantial cost, says the report, whose lead author is Mark Jaccard of Simon Fraser University. The study was written in April and obtained by The Canadian Press on the weekend. It is finally expected to be made public this week. The report says Project Green would have cost $12 billion by 2012, with much of that money being spent outside Canada. It would have reduced emissions by 175 megatonnes compared with a business-as-usual scenario, far short of the 230 to 300 Mt. reduction required to meet Canada's Kyoto target. Efforts like the One Tonne Challenge advertising campaign, which urged individuals to reduce their own greenhouse emissions through lifestyle changes, have negligible effect, says the study. The policy approach of Canada since 1990 and continued with Project Green is clearly ineffective in causing the disconnection of GHG (greenhouse gas) emissions from the economic output that must take place if these emissions are to be reduced and their atmospheric concentrations stabilized at low risk levels. Canada's domestic emissions remain on a path that would miss its Kyoto target by at least 270 Mt. in 2010, equivalent to almost a 30 per cent emissions gap, the study says. Indeed, the policy approach epitomized by Project Green allows emissions to continue to grow at close to their BAU (business-as-usual) rate. Prime Minister Stephen Harper could use the report to buttress his claims about the ineffectiveness of the Liberal plan, but he probably won't like the alternatives it recommends. The most effective policy would likely be a gradually rising tax on greenhouse gas emissions, combined with reductions in other taxes to ensure no net tax increase, says the report. The main Conservative response to climate change so far has been to make transit passes tax deductible, which experts say will have little effect on emissions. Louise Comeau of the Vancouver-based Sage Climate Project said many of the criticisms in the report are valid but Project Green was not a total wash. She said a 175 Mt. cut in emissions would have been a start, adding that the plan had always been presented as a work in progress. Comeau said the real importance of the report is its call for tough regulations and tax changes to prevent greenhouse emissions. == -- Darryl McMahon http://www.econogics.com It's your planet. If you won't look after it, who will? ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages):
Re: [Biofuel] Water: a commodity or a fundamental human right?
WATER FIGHT: BOLIVIA vs. BECHTEL Last week brought an end to one of the greatest water battles in history. The people of Bolivia have successfully reclaimed ownership of their water from the Bechtel Corporation. In 1999, Bechtel made an arrangement with the Bolivian government to take ownership of the water supply and charge citizens for its use. Within weeks of the takeover, Bechtel raised water rates by 50% and made it illegal to gather rainwater without a permit. The ensuing citizen revolt forced Bechtel out of the country. Bechtel then sued Bolivia for $50 million for profit losses. But last week, after four years of legal disputes and public pressure, the case was dropped. This is the first time that a major corporation like Bechtel has had to back down from a major trade case as the result of global citizen pressure, said Jim Shultz, executive director of The Democracy Center in Cochabamba, Bolivia. Bechtel's surrender coincides with the election of indigenous populist farm leader, Evo Morales, who has long been a sharp critic of Bechtel and other transnational corporations operating in Bolivia. [link] http://www.organicconsumers.org/Politics/bechtel012006.cfm Keith Addison wrote: Hi Ken Interesting confleunce of failure of foreign aid and water as a human right. Same as energy, same as food, same as money. One of the important facts left out of the information on water and Bolivia is that the IMF put stings on a loan to Bolivia to improve water infrastructure which was sadly in need of repair. The IMF required that Bolivia privatize the ownership of their water distribution system before it would lend them any money. Bechtel Corp. got the contract and immediately increased the price of water by 60% and later doubling and tripling the price of water. Peasants who couldn't afford the price started collecting rainwater and were sued by Bechtel who claimed that even the rainwater had to be paid for. As a result the peasants protested and Bechtel was thrown out. The water problem led to the election of leftest Morales. Interesting how money from the IMF that had strings to supposedly promote ownership by large corporations had the opposite effect. Yes. Didn't Anup Shah cover that? I thought he does. It was in the link I added in the original post: For a glimpse at water issues worldwide in 2002 see: http://snipurl.com/qcpd Re: [biofuel] Sewage Waste Water - was: Somewhat OT: Animal Waste One article mentioned: Bolivia's War Over Water reports from the scene by Jim Shultz, executive director, The Democracy Center -- In April 2000 Bolivia grabbed the world's attention when the city of Cochabamba erupted in a public uprising over water prices. In 1999, following World Bank advice, Bolivia had granted a 40-year privatization lease to a subsidiary of the Bechtel Corporation, giving it control over the water on which more than half a million people survive. Immediately the company doubled and tripled water rates for some of South America's poorest families. The entire city went on a general strike. The military killed a seventeen-year-old boy and arrested the water rights leaders. But after four months of unrest the Bolivian government forced Bechtel out of Cochambamba. http://www.democracyctr.org/onlinenews/water.html New link: http://www.democracyctr.org/waterwar/ Bolivia's War Over Water There are 13 articles in the list archives on Bolivia and Bechtel, and quite a few more on Morales. This was the most recent on Bechtel: http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/msg59686.html [Biofuel] Bolivia: Bechtel surrenders 25 Jan 2006 Best Keith Ken --- Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 12 percent of the world's population uses 85 percent of its water, and these 12 percent do not live in the Third World. Same as energy, same as food, same as money. Actually there is only one problem, IMHO, and this is it. For a glimpse at water issues worldwide in 2002 see: http://snipurl.com/qcpd Re: [biofuel] Sewage Waste Water - was: Somewhat OT: Animal Waste Best Keith --- New at Anup Shah's Global Issues web site. http://www.globalissues.org * Trade-Related Issues * Sustainable Development * Water Much of the world lives without access to clean water. A recognized global water crisis appears to come not so much from water scarcity and over-population but from management of this precious resource. Privatization has long been encouraged as the means to efficient management and provision of service. However, the result has been that often prices have increased, out of reach from poor people around the world. This commoditization of water goes to the heart of safe water access issues. This article looks into this issue in more detail. http://www.globalissues.org/TradeRelated/Development/water/ Introduction-A Water Management Crisis Leading to Lack of Access to Safe Water for
Re: [Biofuel] 3A molecular Sieve and Methanol recovery Results
Hello to all, I have some concerns re: my recent results using 3A Molecular Sieve to dry recovered methanol. Concerns: 1. I distilled 4 gal ( Containers #1 2), and had to interrupt the process. Last 4 gal were distilled two days later (Containers #3 4). 2. Air drying: The Zeolite from the Control as well as from Containers # 1 2 were air-dried at the same time, for the same duration under identical conditions. Due to interruption of distillation and a week of rain, the Zeolite from Containers 3 4 was removed from the methanol after the same time period (24 hrs) as C, #1, #2, but stored in covered plastic containers until weather permitted, and then were air-dried for the same length of time as the others under as similar conditions as could be reasonably expected. I air-dried the Zeolite until it looked uniformly light in color. The idea was to simply remove moisture (methanol) from the surface. 3. The Control gained mass. Although the methanol in the Control was not a newly-opened barrel, I reason to believe it to be reasonably pure. I had a concern going into the experiment that 3A Molecular Sieve might allow methanol to enter (3A = 3 angstrom units ~ size of pores in the beads) It is used to dehydrate ethanol. Water molecule = 2.8 angstrom units, ethanol = 4.4 angstrom units, methanol = I dont know. I suspected/hoped methanol was larger than the pore size. I suspect that water adheres more strongly than methanol to the inner walls of the beads and tends to remain attached. Additional air-drying Zeolite from C, #1, and #2 (done after surface was dry and original measurements were recorded) resulted in continued loss in mass. At temps of only 72 F (22.2 C) and filtered light I dont suspect much of the weight loss is due to water. 4. Zeolite, under the best of circumstances (exposed to vapor under pressure) can absorb up to 25% of its weight in water. Zeolite from container 3 increased in mass 23.1 % and zeolite from Container 4 gained 28.8%. What gives? The results are interesting in that a comparison of the zeolite exposed to the recovered methanol to the control suggests that there was little water in the first 4 gallons recovered. This is corroborated by the fact that I used the Control and the first 2 recovered gallons + about 1 gal. from the barrel to make a 91L batch of BD that passed the methanol quality test. I pan to use the second 2 gal. in the next batch. (Maybe after a couple of hours of dry zeolite treatment). Tom - Original Message - From: Thomas Kelly To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2006 11:41 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] 3A molecular Sieve and Methanol recovery Results Hello all, 3A Molecular Sieve and Methanol Recovery I first separated the glycerine mix using Phosphoric Acid. This fragment has a high percentage of the excess methanol used to produce methyl esters. I then recovered the methanol using a simple still and condenser. The methanol flowed into containers that each had 5 pounds (2270g) of new zeolite. Each container was marked such that in addition to the zeolite, there would be 2 gal (7.6L) of methanol. Container #1 received the first 2 gal of recovered methanol, container #2 the next 2 gal, etc. My hope was, that by comparing final mass of zeolite to initial mass, I could get a sense of how much water was coming over with the methanol and what was a reasonable cut-off point for the process. A Control was included. The Control had 5 pounds of zeolite plus 2 gal of methanol from a methanol barrel. This was presumed to be relatively pure methanol. This was done in my basement and backyard; not under stringent laboratory conditions. I have some concerns regarding the procedure followed, and the results produced. The following is simply a chart of the results gotten. Feel free to question/comment. Container Initial Mass(g) Final Mass (g) Change % Change % Change in Mass(g) in Mass vs Control Control 2270 2577.7 + 307.7 + 13.6 - 1 2270 2636.3 + 366.3 + 16.1 + 2.5 2 2270 2671.5 + 401.5 + 17.7 + 4.1 3 2270 2795.3 + 525.3 + 23.1 + 9.5 4 2270 2924.4 + 654.4 + 28.8+ 15.2 Container Temp Range of Mix During Distillation 1 150 165 F (66 - 74 C) 2 165 177 F (74 - 81 C) 3 175 - 188 F (79.5 87 C) 4 188 210 F (87.5 99 C) Tom - Original Message - From: Thomas Kelly To: biofuel Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 8:37 AM Subject: [Biofuel] 3A molecular Sieve and Methanol recovery Hello to all, 3A molecular sieve is on its way. As I understand it,
Re: [Biofuel] Grit plan to cut greenhouse emissions a dud: researchers
Oh yeah it's the same old same old. I was not a fan of the former (liberal) prime minister Jean Cretien but I gained a lot of respect for him in his last stretch in office when he did two things. Refusing to support the US in invading Iraq Placing limits on contibutions made by business to political parties. That's about all the good I have to say.now that we have the conservatives I'm sure it will be undone and worse... Joe Ken Riznyk wrote: I didn't know that you guys in Canada had the same problem as we do in the US. Our govenment is totally controlled by big corporations. Ken --- A. Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The only real plan (Liberal or Conservative) is to keep big business feeding their election campaigns... They (big biz) won't feed the election coffers unless they're allowed to continue business as usual... Us little guys and home producers couldn't hope to contribute at big biz levels, even if we were of a mind to... Money talks. BS walks and big biz hasn't the mindset to change anything - unless it increases the bottom line... Cynical? You bet... Al - Original Message - From: Darryl McMahon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2006 8:37 AM Subject: [Biofuel] Grit plan to cut greenhouse emissions a dud: researchers The results of the study come as no surprise, sadly. The Liberal administrations were more interested in photo-ops than results. While the new Conservative administration claims to have a made-in-Canada plan, suspicions are it's a made-in-neocon-USA plan. Personally, I'd welcome any real plan on the subject. http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Politics/2006/05/28/pf-1602651.html May 28, 2006 By DENNIS BUECKERT OTTAWA (CP) - The Liberals' $12-billion plan to implement the Kyoto Protocol over seven years would have been largely ineffective, says an as-yet unpublished report by the C.D. Howe Institute. The report, marked do not cite or circulate, was written before the current government axed Project Green, as the plan was dubbed, and may have been a factor in the Conservatives' decision to scrap it. Project Green largely relied on voluntary measures and incentives which have been shown not to work, says the study, which sarcastically calls the package Project Dream. This policy approach will fail dramatically to meet national objectives and yet will entail a substantial cost, says the report, whose lead author is Mark Jaccard of Simon Fraser University. The study was written in April and obtained by The Canadian Press on the weekend. It is finally expected to be made public this week. The report says Project Green would have cost $12 billion by 2012, with much of that money being spent outside Canada. It would have reduced emissions by 175 megatonnes compared with a business-as-usual scenario, far short of the 230 to 300 Mt. reduction required to meet Canada's Kyoto target. Efforts like the One Tonne Challenge advertising campaign, which urged individuals to reduce their own greenhouse emissions through lifestyle changes, have negligible effect, says the study. The policy approach of Canada since 1990 and continued with Project Green is clearly ineffective in causing the disconnection of GHG (greenhouse gas) emissions from the economic output that must take place if these emissions are to be reduced and their atmospheric concentrations stabilized at low risk levels. Canada's domestic emissions remain on a path that would miss its Kyoto target by at least 270 Mt. in 2010, equivalent to almost a 30 per cent emissions gap, the study says. Indeed, the policy approach epitomized by Project Green allows emissions to continue to grow at close to their BAU (business-as-usual) rate. Prime Minister Stephen Harper could use the report to buttress his claims about the ineffectiveness of the Liberal plan, but he probably won't like the alternatives it recommends. The most effective policy would likely be a gradually rising tax on greenhouse gas emissions, combined with reductions in other taxes to ensure no net tax increase, says the report. The main Conservative response to climate change so far has been to make transit passes tax deductible, which experts say will have little effect on emissions. Louise Comeau of the Vancouver-based Sage Climate Project said many of the criticisms in the report are valid but Project Green was not a total wash. She said a 175 Mt. cut in emissions would have been a start, adding that the plan had always been presented as a work in progress. Comeau said the real importance of the report is its call for tough regulations and tax changes to prevent greenhouse emissions. == -- Darryl McMahon http://www.econogics.com It's your planet. If you won't look after it, who will?
Re: [Biofuel] 3A molecular Sieve and Methanol recovery Results
Hi Tom; Do you have any unopened zeolite? If it is vacuum dried (and I suspect it is) at the manufacturer, it may gain mass due to adsorption of moisture from the air. Take some out and weigh it and let it sit out in the same conditions as the other stuff you are air drying and then weigh it again. Joe Thomas Kelly wrote: Hello to all, I have some concerns re: my recent results using 3A Molecular Sieve to dry recovered methanol. Concerns: 1. I distilled 4 gal ( Containers #1 2), and had to interrupt the process. Last 4 gal were distilled two days later (Containers #3 4). 2. Air drying: The Zeolite from the Control as well as from Containers # 1 2 were air-dried at the same time, for the same duration under “identical” conditions. Due to interruption of distillation and a week of rain, the Zeolite from Containers 3 4 was removed from the methanol after the same time period (24 hrs) as C, #1, #2, but stored in covered plastic containers until weather permitted, and then were air-dried for the same length of time as the others under as similar conditions as could be reasonably expected. I air-dried the Zeolite until it looked uniformly light in color. The idea was to simply remove moisture (methanol) from the surface. 3. The Control gained mass. Although the methanol in the Control was not a newly-opened barrel, I reason to believe it to be reasonably pure. I had a concern going into the experiment that 3A Molecular Sieve might allow methanol to enter (3A = 3 angstrom units ~ size of pores in the beads) It is used to dehydrate ethanol. Water molecule = 2.8 angstrom units, ethanol = 4.4 angstrom units, methanol = I don’t know. I suspected/hoped methanol was larger than the pore size. I suspect that water adheres more strongly than methanol to the inner walls of the beads and tends to remain attached. Additional air-drying Zeolite from C, #1, and #2 (done after surface was dry and original measurements were recorded) resulted in continued loss in mass. At temps of only 72 F (22.2 C) and filtered light I don’t suspect much of the weight loss is due to water. 4. Zeolite, under the best of circumstances (exposed to vapor under pressure) can absorb up to 25% of its weight in water. Zeolite from container 3 increased in mass 23.1 % and zeolite from Container 4 gained 28.8%. What gives? The results are interesting in that a comparison of the zeolite exposed to the recovered methanol to the control suggests that there was little water in the first 4 gallons recovered. This is corroborated by the fact that I used the Control and the first 2 recovered gallons + about 1 gal. from the barrel to make a 91L batch of BD that passed the “methanol quality” test. I pan to use the second 2 gal. in the next batch. (Maybe after a couple of hours of dry zeolite treatment). Tom - Original Message - *From:* Thomas Kelly mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* biofuel@sustainablelists.org mailto:biofuel@sustainablelists.org *Sent:* Wednesday, June 07, 2006 11:41 AM *Subject:* Re: [Biofuel] 3A molecular Sieve and Methanol recovery Results Hello all, 3A Molecular Sieve and Methanol Recovery I first separated the glycerine mix using Phosphoric Acid. This fragment has a high percentage of the excess methanol used to produce methyl esters. I then recovered the methanol using a simple still and condenser. The methanol flowed into containers that each had 5 pounds (2270g) of new zeolite. Each container was marked such that in addition to the zeolite, there would be 2 gal (7.6L) of methanol. Container #1 received the first 2 gal of recovered methanol, container #2 the next 2 gal, etc. My hope was, that by comparing final mass of zeolite to initial mass, I could get a sense of how much water was coming over with the methanol and what was a reasonable cut-off point for the process. A Control was included. The Control had 5 pounds of zeolite plus 2 gal of methanol from a methanol barrel. This was presumed to be relatively pure methanol. This was done in my basement and backyard; not under stringent laboratory conditions. I have some concerns regarding the procedure followed, and the results produced. The following is simply a chart of the results gotten. Feel free to question/comment. ContainerInitial Mass(g)Final Mass (g)Change % Change % Change in Mass(g) in Massvs Control Control 2270 2577.7
Re: [Biofuel] 3A molecular Sieve and Methanol recovery Results
Hi Tom, Joe and all, Air drying without heat is probably not the best way to go. Zeolites will absorb moisture from the air. When I was ai Air products we used to heat to 400C under nitrogen flow to a real low dew point that I cannot remember exactly but -40 is stuck in my memory. Then we would cool it under nitrogen flow then run our gas separations. That's probably overkill for water/methanol separationsbut it was pretty much our SOP for zeolites. It they saw air then you regenerated prior to a test. Some of what you are seeing could be chemisorption of the methanol on the surface but the numbers seem too high. I think methanol may be smaller than 3A just based on your results. I don't know if water is more polar than methanol. If not I don't think it will drive off bound water. I recall carbon dioxide being one of the most stongly held gasses. I hope this helps. Tom Irwin From: Joe Street [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]To: biofuel@sustainablelists.orgSent: Wed, 07 Jun 2006 16:42:11 -0300Subject: Re: [Biofuel] 3A molecular Sieve and Methanol recovery ResultsHi Tom;Do you have any unopened zeolite? If it is vacuum dried (and I suspect it is) at the manufacturer, it may gain mass due to adsorption of moisture from the air. Take some out and weigh it and let it sit out in the same conditions as the other stuff you are air drying and then weigh it again.JoeThomas Kelly wrote: Hello to all, I have some concerns re: my recent results using 3A Molecular Sieve to dry recovered methanol. Concerns: 1. I distilled 4 gal ( Containers #1 2), and had to interrupt the process. Last 4 gal were distilled two days later (Containers #3 4).2. Air drying: The Zeolite from the Control as well as from Containers # 1 2 were air-dried at the same time, for the same duration under “identical” conditions. Due to interruption of distillation and a week of rain, the Zeolite from Containers 3 4 was removed from the methanol after the same time period (24 hrs) as C, #1, #2, but stored in covered plastic containers until weather permitted, and then were air-dried for the same length of time as the others under as similar conditions as could be reasonably expected.I air-dried the Zeolite until it looked uniformly light in color. The idea was to simply remove moisture (methanol) from the surface.3. The Control gained mass. Although the methanol in the Control was not a newly-opened barrel, I reason to believe it to be reasonably pure. I had a concern going into the experiment that 3A Molecular Sieve might allow methanol to enter (3A = 3 angstrom units ~ size of pores in the beads) It is used to dehydrate ethanol. Water molecule = 2.8 angstrom units, ethanol = 4.4 angstrom units, methanol = I don’t know. I suspected/hoped methanol was larger than the pore size. I suspect that water adheres more strongly than methanol to the inner walls of the beads and tends to remain attached. Additional air-drying Zeolite from C, #1, and #2 (done after surface was dry and original measurements were recorded) resulted in continued loss in mass. At temps of only 72 F (22.2 C) and filtered light I don’t suspect much of the weight loss is due to water.4. Zeolite, under the best of circumstances (exposed to vapor under pressure) can absorb up to 25% of its weight in water. Zeolite from container 3 increased in mass 23.1 % and zeolite from Container 4 gained 28.8%. What gives?The results are interesting in that a comparison of the zeolite exposed to the recovered methanol to the control suggests that there was little water in the first 4 gallons recovered. This is corroborated by the fact that I used the Control and the first 2 recovered gallons + about 1 gal. from the barrel to make a 91L batch of BD that passed the “methanol quality” test. I pan to use the second 2 gal. in the next batch. (Maybe after a couple of hours of dry zeolite treatment). Tom - Original Message - *From:* Thomas Kelly mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* biofuel@sustainablelists.org mailto:biofuel@sustainablelists.org *Sent:* Wednesday, June 07, 2006 11:41 AM *Subject:* Re: [Biofuel] 3A molecular Sieve and Methanol recovery Results Hello all, 3A Molecular Sieve and Methanol Recovery I first separated the glycerine mix using Phosphoric Acid. This fragment has a high percentage of the excess methanol used to produce methyl esters. I then recovered the methanol using a simple still and condenser. The methanol flowed into containers that each had 5 pounds (2270g) of new zeolite. Each container was marked such that in addition to the zeolite, there would be 2 gal (7.6L) of methanol. Container #1 received the first 2 gal of recovered methanol, container #2 the next 2 gal, etc. My hope was, that by comparing final mass of zeolite to initial mass, I could get a sense of how much water was coming over with the methanol and what was a reasonable cut-off point for the process. A Control was included. The
Re: [Biofuel] 3A molecular Sieve and Methanol recovery Results
Joe, Good idea, but ... no, I don't have any unused Zeolite. I dried them on a cool, clear day low humidity. I find it hard to believe that they could have absorbed 10% of their weight in water from the air but that would account for the weight gain by the control. I'll try drying the zeolite from the control gently ... raise the temp slowly cool slowly. It seems that regenerating them w. heat (400F) damages the pores expansion and contraction. Gentle heat w. vacuum is the way to go. A vacuum pump may be in my near future. I'll try to get close to the original mass. It's raining again. Should we ever get another cool, clear day w. low humidity I'll let the zeolite sit outside in the same shallow baking pans and see if they gain mass. Tom - Original Message - From: Joe Street [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2006 3:42 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] 3A molecular Sieve and Methanol recovery Results Hi Tom; Do you have any unopened zeolite? If it is vacuum dried (and I suspect it is) at the manufacturer, it may gain mass due to adsorption of moisture from the air. Take some out and weigh it and let it sit out in the same conditions as the other stuff you are air drying and then weigh it again. Joe Thomas Kelly wrote: Hello to all, I have some concerns re: my recent results using 3A Molecular Sieve to dry recovered methanol. Concerns: 1. I distilled 4 gal ( Containers #1 2), and had to interrupt the process. Last 4 gal were distilled two days later (Containers #3 4). 2. Air drying: The Zeolite from the Control as well as from Containers # 1 2 were air-dried at the same time, for the same duration under “identical” conditions. Due to interruption of distillation and a week of rain, the Zeolite from Containers 3 4 was removed from the methanol after the same time period (24 hrs) as C, #1, #2, but stored in covered plastic containers until weather permitted, and then were air-dried for the same length of time as the others under as similar conditions as could be reasonably expected. I air-dried the Zeolite until it looked uniformly light in color. The idea was to simply remove moisture (methanol) from the surface. 3. The Control gained mass. Although the methanol in the Control was not a newly-opened barrel, I reason to believe it to be reasonably pure. I had a concern going into the experiment that 3A Molecular Sieve might allow methanol to enter (3A = 3 angstrom units ~ size of pores in the beads) It is used to dehydrate ethanol. Water molecule = 2.8 angstrom units, ethanol = 4.4 angstrom units, methanol = I don’t know. I suspected/hoped methanol was larger than the pore size. I suspect that water adheres more strongly than methanol to the inner walls of the beads and tends to remain attached. Additional air-drying Zeolite from C, #1, and #2 (done after surface was dry and original measurements were recorded) resulted in continued loss in mass. At temps of only 72 F (22.2 C) and filtered light I don’t suspect much of the weight loss is due to water. 4. Zeolite, under the best of circumstances (exposed to vapor under pressure) can absorb up to 25% of its weight in water. Zeolite from container 3 increased in mass 23.1 % and zeolite from Container 4 gained 28.8%. What gives? The results are interesting in that a comparison of the zeolite exposed to the recovered methanol to the control suggests that there was little water in the first 4 gallons recovered. This is corroborated by the fact that I used the Control and the first 2 recovered gallons + about 1 gal. from the barrel to make a 91L batch of BD that passed the “methanol quality” test. I pan to use the second 2 gal. in the next batch. (Maybe after a couple of hours of dry zeolite treatment). Tom - Original Message - *From:* Thomas Kelly mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* biofuel@sustainablelists.org mailto:biofuel@sustainablelists.org *Sent:* Wednesday, June 07, 2006 11:41 AM *Subject:* Re: [Biofuel] 3A molecular Sieve and Methanol recovery Results Hello all, 3A Molecular Sieve and Methanol Recovery I first separated the glycerine mix using Phosphoric Acid. This fragment has a high percentage of the excess methanol used to produce methyl esters. I then recovered the methanol using a simple still and condenser. The methanol flowed into containers that each had 5 pounds (2270g) of new zeolite. Each container was marked such that in addition to the zeolite, there would be 2 gal (7.6L) of methanol. Container #1 received the first 2 gal of recovered methanol, container #2 the next 2 gal, etc. My hope was,
Re: [Biofuel] BSE/NAIS??
So my question is why doesn't Creekstone go ahead and esport the beef to Japan and then test it there? Or, if it's legal in Canada or Mexico, do the testing there? -Weaver Marylynn Schmidt wrote: Forward from another list Mary Lynn Rev. Mary Lynn Schmidt, Ordained Minister ONE SPIRIT ONE HEART TTouch . Reiki . Pet Loss Grief Counseling . Animal Behavior Modification . Shamanic Spiritual Travel . Behavior Problems . Psionic Energy Practitioner . Radionics . Herbs . Dowsing . Nutrition . Homeopathy . Polarity . The Animal Connection Healing Modalities http://members.tripod.com/~MLSchmidt/ http://allcreatureconnections.org Subject: Re: [n2n4h] BSE Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2006 07:27:03 -0500 Creekstone Farms, Arkansas, Kansas, exported 40% of its Angus beef to Japan. Creekstone set up a special lab and hired appropriate experts. The government is the only legal supplier of the kits for testing BSE the government refused to sell the kits to Creekstone. Info from Raising Less Corn-More Hell by George Pyle. More from same book: In beef a four-firm concentration controls 84% of the market: IBP (Iowa Beef Processors absorbed by Tyson in 2001) controlled 1/3 of the market all by itself Swift (spun of on ConAgra in 2002) Cargill Excel Subsidiary Farmland National #5 Smithfield (John Morrell, Cumberland Gap, Smithfield, Cudahy, Ember Farms) Pork with 64% of the market: Smithfield Tyson/IBP Swift Cargill/Excel Chickens with 88% of the market Tyson GoldKist Perdue Farms Pilgrim's Pride Corn: 75% of seed corn 60% of soy bean Monsanto Novartis Dow Chemical Du Pont Corn Exports with 80% of the market ADM Cargill Zen Noh Some names look familiar. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Ethanol for diesel engines
if the exhaust isnt any better than a gasoline engine on ethanol, what difference would it make whether or not it was ethy or BD? it sounds like the additive isnt all the best either - Original Message - From: Tomas Juknevicius [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2006 8:43 AM Subject: [Biofuel] Ethanol for diesel engines Hi, this one fuel combination is interesting. I've never heard about such possibility before: http://www.greencarcongress.com/2006/06/xcelplus_acquir.html -- Tomas Juknevicius ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.8.1/355 - Release Date: 6/2/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.8.3/358 - Release Date: 6/7/2006 ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Garrison on attack (of Prarie Home Companion fame)
Subject: Garrison on attackhttp://www.salon.com/opinion/feature/2006/06/07/keillor/print.htmlSan FranciscophobiaWe're stuck with a terrible war and a worse president, and all the GOP can do is scream, "Pelosi and her Nancy boys are coming"? This is pathetic.By Garrison KeillorJun. 07, 2006 | People who live in mud huts should not throw mud, especially if it comes from their own roofs. As Scripture says, don't point to the speck in your neighbor's eye when you have a piece of kindling in your own.I see by the papers that the Republicans want to make an issue of Nancy Pelosi in the congressional races this fall: Would you want a San Francisco woman to be Speaker of the House? Will the podium be repainted in lavender stripes with a disco ball overhead? Will she be borne into the chamber by male dancers with glistening torsos and wearing pink tutus? After all, in the unique worldview of old elephants, San Francisco is a code word for g-a-y, and after assembling a record of government lies, incompetence and disaster, the party in power hopes that the fear of g-a-y-s will pull it through in November.Running against Nancy Pelosi, a woman who comes from a district where there are known gay persons, is a nice trick, but it does draw attention to the large shambling galoot who is speaker now, Tom DeLay's enabler for years, a man who, judging by his public mutterances, is about as smart as most high school wrestling coaches. For the past year, Dennis Hastert has been two heartbeats from the presidency. He is a man who seems content just to have a car and driver and three square meals a day. He has no apparent vision beyond the urge to hang onto power. He has succeeded in turning Congress into a branch of the executive branch. If Mr. Hastert becomes the poster boy for the Republican Party, this does not speak well for them as the Party of Ideas.People who want to take a swing at San Francisco should think twice. Yes, the Irish coffee at Fisherman's Wharf is overpriced, and the bus tour of Haight-Ashbury is disappointing (where are the hippies?), but the Bay Area is the cradle of the computer and software industry, which continues to create jobs for our children. The iPod was not developed by Baptists in Waco, Texas. There may be a reason for this. Creative people thrive in a climate of openness and tolerance, since some great ideas start out sounding ridiculous. Creativity is a key to economic progress. Authoritarianism is stifling. I don't believe that Mr. Hewlett and Mr. Packard were gay, but what's important is: In San Francisco, it doesn't matter so much. When the cultural Sturmbannfuhrers try to marshal everyone into straight lines, it has consequences for the economic future of this country.Meanwhile, the Current Occupant goes on impersonating a president. Somewhere in the quiet leafy recesses of the Bush family, somebody is thinking, "Wrong son. Should've tried the smart one." This one's eyes don't quite focus. Five years in office and he doesn't have a grip on it yet. You stand him up next to Tony Blair at a press conference and the comparison is not kind to Our Guy. Historians are starting to place him at or near the bottom of the list. And one of the basic assumptions of American culture is falling apart: the competence of Republicans.You might not have always liked Republicans, but you could count on them to manage the bank. They might be lousy tippers, act snooty, talk through their noses, wear spats and splash mud on you as they race their Pierce-Arrows through the village, but you knew they could do the math. To see them produce a ninny and then follow him loyally into the swamp for five years is disconcerting, like seeing the Rolling Stones take up lite jazz. So here we are at an uneasy point in our history, mired in a costly war and getting nowhere, a supine Congress granting absolute power to a president who seems to get smaller and dimmer, and the best the Republicans can offer is San Franciscophobia? This is beyond pitiful. This is violently stupid.It is painful to look at your father and realize the old man should not be allowed to manage his own money anymore. This is the discovery the country has made about the party in power. They are inept. The checkbook needs to be taken away. They will rant, they will screech, they will wave their canes at you and call you all sorts of names, but you have to do what you have to do.- - - - - - - - - - - -(Garrison Keillor's "A Prairie Home Companion" can be heard Saturday nights on public radio stations across the country.)(c) 2006 by Garrison Keillor. All rights reserved. Distributed by Tribune Media Services, INC. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the
Re: [Biofuel] Garrison on attack (of Prarie Home Companion fame)
i like his stories of Lake Woebegone, but this is not his usual tinder dry humor. what he is saying is true to the fullest extent. the republicans used to be stuck up and elitist, yet good accountants, but idiocy has taken them like leaves in a storm. they are hopeless and doomed. --- Original Message - From: D. Mindock To: Undisclosed-Recipient:; Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2006 1:08 PM Subject: [Biofuel] Garrison on attack (of Prarie Home Companion fame) Subject: Garrison on attack http://www.salon.com/opinion/feature/2006/06/07/keillor/print.html San Franciscophobia We're stuck with a terrible war and a worse president, and all the GOP can do is scream, Pelosi and her Nancy boys are coming? This is pathetic. By Garrison Keillor Jun. 07, 2006 | People who live in mud huts should not throw mud, especially if it comes from their own roofs. As Scripture says, don't point to the speck in your neighbor's eye when you have a piece of kindling in your own. I see by the papers that the Republicans want to make an issue of Nancy Pelosi in the congressional races this fall: Would you want a San Francisco woman to be Speaker of the House? Will the podium be repainted in lavender stripes with a disco ball overhead? Will she be borne into the chamber by male dancers with glistening torsos and wearing pink tutus? After all, in the unique worldview of old elephants, San Francisco is a code word for g-a-y, and after assembling a record of government lies, incompetence and disaster, the party in power hopes that the fear of g-a-y-s will pull it through in November. Running against Nancy Pelosi, a woman who comes from a district where there are known gay persons, is a nice trick, but it does draw attention to the large shambling galoot who is speaker now, Tom DeLay's enabler for years, a man who, judging by his public mutterances, is about as smart as most high school wrestling coaches. For the past year, Dennis Hastert has been two heartbeats from the presidency. He is a man who seems content just to have a car and driver and three square meals a day. He has no apparent vision beyond the urge to hang onto power. He has succeeded in turning Congress into a branch of the executive branch. If Mr. Hastert becomes the poster boy for the Republican Party, this does not speak well for them as the Party of Ideas. People who want to take a swing at San Francisco should think twice. Yes, the Irish coffee at Fisherman's Wharf is overpriced, and the bus tour of Haight-Ashbury is disappointing (where are the hippies?), but the Bay Area is the cradle of the computer and software industry, which continues to create jobs for our children. The iPod was not developed by Baptists in Waco, Texas. There may be a reason for this. Creative people thrive in a climate of openness and tolerance, since some great ideas start out sounding ridiculous. Creativity is a key to economic progress. Authoritarianism is stifling. I don't believe that Mr. Hewlett and Mr. Packard were gay, but what's important is: In San Francisco, it doesn't matter so much. When the cultural Sturmbannfuhrers try to marshal everyone into straight lines, it has consequences for the economic future of this country. Meanwhile, the Current Occupant goes on impersonating a president. Somewhere in the quiet leafy recesses of the Bush family, somebody is thinking, Wrong son. Should've tried the smart one. This one's eyes don't quite focus. Five years in office and he doesn't have a grip on it yet. You stand him up next to Tony Blair at a press conference and the comparison is not kind to Our Guy. Historians are starting to place him at or near the bottom of the list. And one of the basic assumptions of American culture is falling apart: the competence of Republicans. You might not have always liked Republicans, but you could count on them to manage the bank. They might be lousy tippers, act snooty, talk through their noses, wear spats and splash mud on you as they race their Pierce-Arrows through the village, but you knew they could do the math. To see them produce a ninny and then follow him loyally into the swamp for five years is disconcerting, like seeing the Rolling Stones take up lite jazz. So here we are at an uneasy point in our history, mired in a costly war and getting nowhere, a supine Congress granting absolute power to a president who seems to get smaller and dimmer, and the best the Republicans can offer is San Franciscophobia? This is beyond pitiful. This is violently stupid. It is painful to look at your father and realize the old man should not be allowed to manage his own money anymore. This is the discovery the country has made about the party in power. They are inept. The checkbook needs to be taken away. They will rant, they will screech, they will wave their canes at you and call you all sorts of names, but you have to do what you have to do. - - - - - - - - - - - - (Garrison Keillor's A Prairie Home Companion can be heard Saturday
[Biofuel] mixing ethoxide (again)
has anyone tried using a pump to mix the catalyst itself? i have 3 small pumps laying around and planned to use 2 for the oil mixing and moving, but wondered if i could use the 3rd for mixing the catalyst more quickly. it wont be a very big system (1 or 2L), but i wanted to mess with configurations before i tried anything really big. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.8.3/358 - Release Date: 6/7/2006 ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
