Re: [Biofuel] Al Gore interview
Actually it has to say more about the majority Americans than it does Al Gore. As a group that as so much, they have been hoodwinked into believing that they are being cheated, out of their due. Irony is that those doing the hoodwink, are the very ones doing the cheating. The myth of the liberal press was exposed in 2000, when they gave GWB a pass, while reinforcing right wing rhetoric. John Kerry was as timid in 2004. I don't understand why he never asked GWB if he(GWB) was a waffler or a lier. shrug Doug, N0LKK Kansas USA Michael Redler wrote: I'd like to know what happened since his last campaign. Did he have a vision quest or something? Maybe he broke loose from a political sleeper hold. Do you remember how his opponents on the right nicknamed him the wooden Indian? It's a name that's wrong on many levels but, the point I'm making here is that he didn't seem to fight back. It's like he was sedated or something. What about the whole inventing the Internet thing? He was viciously attacked and I felt embarrassed just to watch it. Although I've never been a big fan of Al, I'd really like to see another player on the field - the left side of the field. -Redler P.S. Agh! I used a sports metaphores! */Mark Manchester [EMAIL PROTECTED]/* wrote: Glad you saw it. Yes, Gore sounds like such a cool guy! I guess it's just more on the Buy the Administration shenanegans. Block this great guy, get the richer one into office. Jesse On Jun 20, 2006, at 11:24 PM, JJJN wrote: Mark, I was in a Hotel last night in Bismarck North Dakota, I got to see the whole interview. I must say I am ready to see the movie. I wish more people could have seen Al in this light about 6 years ago. Jim mark manchester wrote: Ha-HAH! Same post, new title. This is a fantastic interview, guys, to which there has been no response at all~! Read! Or else let's talk about our lawns. (Lawns are important too, don't get all biofuelly on me..) Al Gore interview, last month, about his global warming platform and movie. I missed it, maybe you did too. Jesse http://www.macleans.ca/culture/films/article.jsp? content=20060522_127258_127 258 ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Al Gore interview
Glad you saw it. Yes, Gore sounds like such a cool guy! I guess it's just more on the Buy the Administration shenanegans. Block this great guy, get the richer one into office. Jesse http://members.aol.com/bblum6/aer34.htm Anti-Empire Report, June 21, 2006 The Anti-Empire Report Some things you need to know before the world ends June 21, 2006 by William Blum Moderation in temper is always a virtue; moderation in principle is always a vice. Thomas Paine Recently, Al Gore appeared at a bookstore in downtown Washington signing copies of his new book on environmental concerns, when who should show up on the line of people looking for a signed copy but Ralph Nader. Gore stood up and said: Nice to see you! How you doing? I'm really so grateful to you for coming by. After more pleasantries, Gore inscribed the book: For my friend, Ralph Nader. With respect, Al Gore. Two men in line could not resist remarking to Nader that if not for him Gore might have won the election in 2000. Thanks to you, we had Bush all these years, said one. How many are dead in Iraq because of that? [Washington Post, June 16, 2006, p.2] What Nader replied has not been reported. The idea that Ralph Nader cost the Democrats the 2000 election will likely persist forever, so let me state for all eternity, speaking for myself and for the millions like me: The choice facing us was not Ralph Nader or Albert Gore. The choice facing us was Ralph Nader or not voting at all. If Nader had not been on the ballot, we would have stayed home. The millions who voted for Nader and the millions more who stayed home demanded an inspiring alternative to the Republicans; even a halfway inspiring alternative would have sufficed for most of us. The Democrats did not, and still do not, offer any kind of alternative, particularly on foreign policy. On foreign policy the two major parties are completely indistinguishable. For all intents and purposes, the United States is a one-party state in all but name -- the War Party. The occasional minor points of difference which arise are Democratic artificial constructs created for election purposes, and in these cases the Democrats often take a position to the right of their Republican opponents, like calling for tougher measures in the war on terrorism or against Iran. This is the case with the Democrats whether we're speaking of the conservatives amongst them, or the moderates, or the liberals. And this has long been the case. Here is an excerpt from a talk delivered in 1965 by Carl Oglesby, President of Students for a Democratic Society (SDS), at an anti-Vietnam War rally in Washington: The original commitment in Vietnam was made by President Truman, a mainstream liberal. It was seconded by President Eisenhower, a moderate liberal. It was intensified by the late President Kennedy, a flaming liberal. Think of the men who now engineer that war -- those who study the maps, give the commands, push the buttons, and tally the dead: Bundy, McNamara, Rusk, Lodge, Goldberg, the President [Johnson] himself. They are not moral monsters. They are all honorable men. They are all liberals. [November 27, 1965, copy of Oglesby's speech in my possession] On Jun 20, 2006, at 11:24 PM, JJJN wrote: Mark, I was in a Hotel last night in Bismarck North Dakota, I got to see the whole interview. I must say I am ready to see the movie. I wish more people could have seen Al in this light about 6 years ago. Jim mark manchester wrote: Ha-HAH! Same post, new title. This is a fantastic interview, guys, to which there has been no response at all~! Read! Or else let's talk about our lawns. (Lawns are important too, don't get all biofuelly on me..) Al Gore interview, last month, about his global warming platform and movie. I missed it, maybe you did too. Jesse http://www.macleans.ca/culture/films/article.jsp? content=20060522_127258_127 258 ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Castor oil
HelloI would like to know if it´s posible to make biodiesel from castor oil. LLama Gratis a cualquier PC del Mundo.Llamadas a fijos y móviles desde 1 céntimo por minuto.MailScanner has detected a possible fraud attempt from "us.rd.yahoo.com" claiming to be http://es.voice.yahoo.com___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Great Moments in the History of Imperialism
http://members.aol.com/bblum6/aer34.htm The Anti-Empire Report Some things you need to know before the world ends June 21, 2006 by William Blum Great Moments in the History of Imperialism National Public Radio foreign correspondent Loren Jenkins, serving in NPR's Baghdad bureau, met earlier this month with a senior Shiite cleric, a man who was described in the NPR report as a moderate and as a person trying to lead his Shiite followers into practicing peace and reconciliation. He had been jailed by Saddam Hussein and forced into exile. Jenkins asked him: What would you think if you had to go back to Saddam Hussein? The cleric replied that he'd rather see Iraq under Saddam Hussein than the way it is now. [NPR, Day to Day, June 6, 2006] When one considers what the people of Iraq have experienced as a result of the American bombings, invasion, regime change, and occupation since 2003, should this attitude be surprising, even from such an individual? I was moved to compile a list of the many kinds of misfortune which have fallen upon the heads of the Iraqi people as a result of the American liberation of their homeland. It's depressing reading, and you may not want to read it all, but I think it's important to have it summarized in one place. Loss of a functioning educational system. A 2005 UN study revealed that 84% of the higher education establishments have been destroyed, damaged and robbed. The intellectual stock has been further depleted as many thousands of academics and other professionals have fled abroad or have been mysteriously kidnapped or assassinated in Iraq; hundreds of thousands, perhaps a million, other Iraqis, most of them from the vital, educated middle class, have left for Jordan, Syria or Egypt, many after receiving death threats. Now I am isolated, said a middle-class Sunni Arab, who decided to leave. I have no government. I have no protection from the government. Anyone can come to my house, take me, kill me and throw me in the trash. [New York Times, May 19, 2006] Loss of a functioning health care system. And loss of the public's health. Deadly infections including typhoid and tuberculosis are rampaging through the country. Iraq's network of hospitals and health centers, once admired throughout the Middle East, has been severely damaged by the war and looting. The UN's World Food Program reported that 400,000 Iraqi children were suffering from dangerous deficiencies of protein. Deaths from malnutrition and preventable diseases, particularly amongst children, already a problem because of the 12 years of US-imposed sanctions, have increased as poverty and disorder have made access to a proper diet and medicines ever more difficult. Thousands of Iraqis have lost an arm or a leg, frequently from unexploded US cluster bombs, which became land mines; cluster bombs are a class of weapons denounced by human rights groups as a cruelly random scourge on civilians, particularly children. Depleted uranium particles, from exploded US ordnance, float in the Iraqi air, to be breathed into human bodies and to radiate forever, and infect the water, the soil, the blood, the genes, producing malformed babies. During the few weeks of war in spring 2003, A10 tankbuster planes, which use munitions containing depleted uranium, fired 300,000 rounds. And the use of napalm as well. And white phosphorous. The American military has attacked hospitals to prevent them from giving out casualty figures of US attacks that contradicted official US figures, which the hospitals had been in the habit of doing. Numerous homes have been broken into by US forces, the men taken away, the women humiliated, the children traumatized; on many occasions, the family has said that the American soldiers helped themselves to some of the family's money. Iraq has had to submit to a degrading national strip search. Destruction and looting of the country's ancient heritage, perhaps the world's greatest archive of the human past, left unprotected by the US military, busy protecting oil facilities. A nearly lawless society: Iraq's legal system, outside of the political sphere, was once one of the most impressive and secular in the Middle East; it is now a shambles; religious law more and more prevails. Women's rights previously enjoyed are now in great and growing danger under harsh Islamic law, to one extent or another in various areas. There is today a Shiite religious ruling class in Iraq, which tolerates physical attacks on women for showing a bare arm or for picnicking with a male friend. Men can be harassed for wearing shorts in public, as can children playing outside in shorts. Sex trafficking, virtually nonexistent previously, has become a serious issue. Jews, Christians, and other non-Muslims have lost much of the security they had enjoyed in Saddam's secular society; many have emigrated. A gulag of prisons run by the US and the new Iraqi government
[Biofuel] Got A Little More Than Milk?
http://www.precaution.org/lib/06/prn_a_little_more_than_milk.060616.htm Rethinking Schools Online, June 1, 2006 Got A Little More Than Milk? Students get a glimpse into the corporate-controlled food system by looking at the politics of food [Rachel's introduction: After several days of discussion, the 11th- grade global studies class decided to follow the precautionary principle, http://www.precaution.org/lib/pp_def.htm which guides policy in many European nations, and institute a worldwide moratorium on genetically modified (GM) foods until they could be proven safe, and to require labeling of any GM foods that were approved for consumption. Furthermore, the summit voted to take away the right of any person or corporation to patent food.] By Tim Swinehart Got milk? Want strong bones? Drink milk. Want healthy teeth? Drink milk. Want big muscles? Drink milk. The glass of milk looks nice and cold and refreshing. If I had a warm, homemade chocolate chip cookie, it would make my day. They go perfect together. Ari and Colin could have been writing radio spots for the Oregon Dairyman's Association, but instead they were writing about the glass of milk I had set out moments earlier in the middle of the classroom. My instructions to the students were simple: Describe the glass of milk sitting before you. What does it make you think of? Does it bring back memories? Do you have any questions about the milk? An ode to milk? From the front row, Carl said, M... I'm thirsty. Can I drink it? Why don't you wait until the end of the period and then I'll check back with you on that, Carl, I responded. We had spent the last couple weeks discussing the politics of food in my untracked 11th grade global studies classes. And while students -- mostly working class and European American -- were beginning to show signs of an increased awareness about the implications of their own food choices, I wanted to find an issue that they would be sure to relate to on a personal level. One of my goals in designing a unit about food was to give students the opportunity to make some intimate connections between the social and cultural politics of globalization and the choices we make as individual consumers and as a society as a whole. A central organizing theme of the unit was choice, which we examined from multiple perspectives: How much choice do you have about the food that you eat? Do these choices matter? Does knowledge about the source/history of our food affect our ability to make true choices about our food? How does corporate control of the global food supply affect our choices and the choices of people around the world? I wanted to encourage my students to continue asking critical questions about the social and environmental issues surrounding food, even outside the confines of the classroom. I wanted to develop a lesson that would stick with them when they grabbed their afternoon snack or sat down for their next meal, something they might even feel compelled to tell their friends or family about. Milk turned out to have the sort of appeal I was looking for. For almost all my students, milk embodies a sort of wholesome, pure goodness, an image propped up by millions of dollars of advertising targeted especially toward children. My students had been ingrained with the message that milk does a body good for most of their lives and had been persuaded by parents, teachers, celebrities, and cafeteria workers to include milk as a healthy part of their day. But I believe that my students, along with the vast majority of the American public, hasn't been getting the whole story about milk. I wanted to introduce them to the idea that corporate interests -- oftentimes at odds with their own personal health -- hid behind the image of purity and health. Growth Hormones and Milk I wanted to help my students reexamine the images of purity and health that milk evoked by presenting them with some unsettling information about the Monsanto corporation's artificial growth hormone, rBGH. Recombinant Bovine Growth Hormone (rBGH -- also known as Bovine Somatrotropin, bST, or rBST) is a genetically engineered version of the growth hormone naturally produced by cows, and was approved by the federal Food and Drug Administra-tion (FDA) in 1993 for the purpose of increasing a cow's milk production by an estimated 5 to 15 percent. Monsanto markets rBGH, under the trade name Posilac, as a way for dairy farmers to produce more milk with fewer cows, thereby providing dairy farmers with additional economic security (see www.monsantodairy.com). But with an increased risk of health problems for cows stressed from producing milk at unnaturally enhanced levels -- including more udder infections and reproductive problems -- critics argue that the only true economic security resulting from the sale of Posilac (rBGH) is the $300-500 million a year that Monsanto makes from the product.
[Biofuel] The Rise Of A Political Paradox Brings Hope For The World
http://www.precaution.org/lib/06/prn_pp_is_conservative.060616.htm Ode Magazine, June 16, 2006 The Rise Of A Political Paradox Brings Hope For The World [Rachel's introduction: In England, environmental advisor Zac Goldsmith plans to press four themes in drafting the new conservative platform on green issues: energy efficiency; local food; less dependence on foreign oil; and the precautionary principle. http://www.precaution.org/lib/pp_def.htm He believes these are pragmatic goals, which fit right in with Conservative Party values.] By Jay Walljasper and Ode Magazine Modern politics is notorious for the way it creates strange new meanings for familiar words. National security, for instance, now means attacking distant countries. Choice, in American electoral debates, is a secret code for abortion, and family signifies fierce opposition to gay rights. Us, in the minds of some European political candidates, refers exclusively to white people. But the word that has undergone the most dramatic transformation at the hands of politicians is conservative. It once clearly described a political philosophy devoted to preserving tradition. But powerful leaders around the world now use the term to justify a complete reordering of society according to the wishes of global corporations and radical free-market economists. The merit of these policies is open to discussion, but it seems obvious that this kind of political agenda is anything but conservative. It's no accident that 'conservative' and 'conservation' are almost the same word, notes American environmentalist philosopher Bill McKibben. But what we call conservative today has been captured by something else -- the idea that we need economic growth at all costs. That can be ruinous to our environment and our communities. That's the great irony of politics today: The very idea of conservation -- conserving the environment, natural resources, energy, a sense of community or anything else -- is considered unnecessary, or even a dangerous obstacle to economic progress, by most so-called Conservatives. U.S. Vice-President Dick Cheney summed up the prevailing right-wing view when he said, Conservation may be a sign of personal virtue, but it is not a sufficient basis... for a sound, comprehensive energy policy. This is what makes the recent turn of events in British politics so fascinating. The Conservative Party, which earned the undying wrath of environmentalists when Margaret Thatcher was prime minister, is now trumpeting green issues in an effort to unseat the ruling Labour Party. The new Conservative leader, David Cameron, who assumed power last fall, quotes Gandhi in urging people to become the change we want to see in the world. He can be seen riding his bike all over London and plans to add solar panels and a wind turbine to his home in the fashionable Notting Hill neighbourhood. He's gone so far as to question the dominance of corporate power in the UK, declaring in a recent newspaper ad, We should not just stand up for big business but to big business. While this might sound like some sort of political gimmick, there are signs that Cameron is sincere about pioneering a new brand of green conservativism -- which could become as globally influential as Thatcher's free-market policies were in the 1980s. If the environment ceases to become a divisive issue among parties of the left, right and centre around the world, we will see a new flowering of green initiatives. In a bold stroke, Cameron enlisted Bob Geldof, rock star and prominent anti-poverty advocate, as an advisor on global affairs, and Zac Goldsmith, editor of the The Ecologist magazine, as an environmental advisor. The Ecologist has been uncompromising in its opposition to corporate globalization, agribusiness, free trade, genetically modified food and big supermarkets -- hardly the resume of an up-and-coming player in the Conservative Party. Yet Goldsmith is helping direct a team of party leaders over the next 18 months in creating a new green vision for Conservatives. He's even been approved by party officials to run for parliament. If you would have predicted this four or five years ago, Goldsmith admits. I would have been really surprised. There are big changes going on about the environment in this country right now, he explains. Politics is just now catching up. Fifteen years ago Prince Charles was laughed at when he talked about organic food. Now you have half the people in this country buying organic food for their children. Businesses like [the huge retailer] Marks Spencer are really raising the bar on the issues we're covering in The Ecologist. Very detailed market research is telling them this is what customers want. Goldsmith plans to press four themes in drafting the new conservative platform on green issues: energy efficiency; local food; less dependence on foreign oil; and the precautionary principle, which
Re: [Biofuel] Got A Little More Than Milk?
Yeah, Google mile and somatic cell count Keith Addison wrote: http://www.precaution.org/lib/06/prn_a_little_more_than_milk.060616.htm Rethinking Schools Online, June 1, 2006 Got A Little More Than Milk? Students get a glimpse into the corporate-controlled food system by looking at the politics of food [Rachel's introduction: After several days of discussion, the 11th- grade global studies class decided to follow the precautionary principle, http://www.precaution.org/lib/pp_def.htm which guides policy in many European nations, and institute a worldwide moratorium on genetically modified (GM) foods until they could be proven safe, and to require labeling of any GM foods that were approved for consumption. Furthermore, the summit voted to take away the right of any person or corporation to patent food.] By Tim Swinehart Got milk? Want strong bones? Drink milk. Want healthy teeth? Drink milk. Want big muscles? Drink milk. The glass of milk looks nice and cold and refreshing. If I had a warm, homemade chocolate chip cookie, it would make my day. They go perfect together. Ari and Colin could have been writing radio spots for the Oregon Dairyman's Association, but instead they were writing about the glass of milk I had set out moments earlier in the middle of the classroom. My instructions to the students were simple: Describe the glass of milk sitting before you. What does it make you think of? Does it bring back memories? Do you have any questions about the milk? An ode to milk? From the front row, Carl said, M... I'm thirsty. Can I drink it? Why don't you wait until the end of the period and then I'll check back with you on that, Carl, I responded. We had spent the last couple weeks discussing the politics of food in my untracked 11th grade global studies classes. And while students -- mostly working class and European American -- were beginning to show signs of an increased awareness about the implications of their own food choices, I wanted to find an issue that they would be sure to relate to on a personal level. One of my goals in designing a unit about food was to give students the opportunity to make some intimate connections between the social and cultural politics of globalization and the choices we make as individual consumers and as a society as a whole. A central organizing theme of the unit was choice, which we examined from multiple perspectives: How much choice do you have about the food that you eat? Do these choices matter? Does knowledge about the source/history of our food affect our ability to make true choices about our food? How does corporate control of the global food supply affect our choices and the choices of people around the world? I wanted to encourage my students to continue asking critical questions about the social and environmental issues surrounding food, even outside the confines of the classroom. I wanted to develop a lesson that would stick with them when they grabbed their afternoon snack or sat down for their next meal, something they might even feel compelled to tell their friends or family about. Milk turned out to have the sort of appeal I was looking for. For almost all my students, milk embodies a sort of wholesome, pure goodness, an image propped up by millions of dollars of advertising targeted especially toward children. My students had been ingrained with the message that milk does a body good for most of their lives and had been persuaded by parents, teachers, celebrities, and cafeteria workers to include milk as a healthy part of their day. But I believe that my students, along with the vast majority of the American public, hasn't been getting the whole story about milk. I wanted to introduce them to the idea that corporate interests -- oftentimes at odds with their own personal health -- hid behind the image of purity and health. Growth Hormones and Milk I wanted to help my students reexamine the images of purity and health that milk evoked by presenting them with some unsettling information about the Monsanto corporation's artificial growth hormone, rBGH. Recombinant Bovine Growth Hormone (rBGH -- also known as Bovine Somatrotropin, bST, or rBST) is a genetically engineered version of the growth hormone naturally produced by cows, and was approved by the federal Food and Drug Administra-tion (FDA) in 1993 for the purpose of increasing a cow's milk production by an estimated 5 to 15 percent. Monsanto markets rBGH, under the trade name Posilac, as a way for dairy farmers to produce more milk with fewer cows, thereby providing dairy farmers with additional economic security (see www.monsantodairy.com). But with an increased risk of health problems for cows stressed from producing milk at unnaturally enhanced levels -- including more udder infections and reproductive problems -- critics argue that the only true economic security resulting from the sale of Posilac (rBGH) is the
Re: [Biofuel] Al Gore interview
I met Al Gore once, during a White House ceremony honoring those who worked on the Leland Initiative which brought Internet Connectivity to 21 African countries. Even as busy as we was, the did take two or three minutes to chat with each of us - he was very funny and quite personable. -Mike Keith Addison wrote: Glad you saw it. Yes, Gore sounds like such a cool guy! I guess it's just more on the Buy the Administration shenanegans. Block this great guy, get the richer one into office. Jesse http://members.aol.com/bblum6/aer34.htm Anti-Empire Report, June 21, 2006 The Anti-Empire Report Some things you need to know before the world ends June 21, 2006 by William Blum Moderation in temper is always a virtue; moderation in principle is always a vice. Thomas Paine Recently, Al Gore appeared at a bookstore in downtown Washington signing copies of his new book on environmental concerns, when who should show up on the line of people looking for a signed copy but Ralph Nader. Gore stood up and said: Nice to see you! How you doing? I'm really so grateful to you for coming by. After more pleasantries, Gore inscribed the book: For my friend, Ralph Nader. With respect, Al Gore. Two men in line could not resist remarking to Nader that if not for him Gore might have won the election in 2000. Thanks to you, we had Bush all these years, said one. How many are dead in Iraq because of that? [Washington Post, June 16, 2006, p.2] What Nader replied has not been reported. The idea that Ralph Nader cost the Democrats the 2000 election will likely persist forever, so let me state for all eternity, speaking for myself and for the millions like me: The choice facing us was not Ralph Nader or Albert Gore. The choice facing us was Ralph Nader or not voting at all. If Nader had not been on the ballot, we would have stayed home. The millions who voted for Nader and the millions more who stayed home demanded an inspiring alternative to the Republicans; even a halfway inspiring alternative would have sufficed for most of us. The Democrats did not, and still do not, offer any kind of alternative, particularly on foreign policy. On foreign policy the two major parties are completely indistinguishable. For all intents and purposes, the United States is a one-party state in all but name -- the War Party. The occasional minor points of difference which arise are Democratic artificial constructs created for election purposes, and in these cases the Democrats often take a position to the right of their Republican opponents, like calling for tougher measures in the war on terrorism or against Iran. This is the case with the Democrats whether we're speaking of the conservatives amongst them, or the moderates, or the liberals. And this has long been the case. Here is an excerpt from a talk delivered in 1965 by Carl Oglesby, President of Students for a Democratic Society (SDS), at an anti-Vietnam War rally in Washington: The original commitment in Vietnam was made by President Truman, a mainstream liberal. It was seconded by President Eisenhower, a moderate liberal. It was intensified by the late President Kennedy, a flaming liberal. Think of the men who now engineer that war -- those who study the maps, give the commands, push the buttons, and tally the dead: Bundy, McNamara, Rusk, Lodge, Goldberg, the President [Johnson] himself. They are not moral monsters. They are all honorable men. They are all liberals. [November 27, 1965, copy of Oglesby's speech in my possession] On Jun 20, 2006, at 11:24 PM, JJJN wrote: Mark, I was in a Hotel last night in Bismarck North Dakota, I got to see the whole interview. I must say I am ready to see the movie. I wish more people could have seen Al in this light about 6 years ago. Jim mark manchester wrote: Ha-HAH! Same post, new title. This is a fantastic interview, guys, to which there has been no response at all~! Read! Or else let's talk about our lawns. (Lawns are important too, don't get all biofuelly on me..) Al Gore interview, last month, about his global warming platform and movie. I missed it, maybe you did too. Jesse http://www.macleans.ca/culture/films/article.jsp? content=20060522_127258_127 258 ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html
Re: [Biofuel] Freakonomics - in defence of
Mission accomplished! Mike Redler wrote: Agh!! Now ya did it. I got that stupid music from the Heineken Light commercial ringing in my head. Don't you wish your girlfriend was a freak like me... Mike Weaver wrote: Oh, you just like the Freak part pf Freakonmics! Michael Redler wrote: Doug wrote: I do agree with you that most present day economists are in an extreme state of denial regarding their relationship to moral issues. I would agree that there is a detachment but, I'm not sure that it's denial. I mean, denial is a defense mechanism, right? Have they become defensive or do they see a close attachment to moral issues as a leash which keeps their research within current moral boundaries. I want to be careful not to make blanket statements because some economists may depend on moral issues because it's within the scope of their research. Those who don't include those issues (IMO) have grown accustomed to certain methods and have created their own obstacles in reaching their objective. Personally, I'm equally interested in the public reaction to economists research. I think the degree by which people interpret research as a call to action is a measure of how our culture submits to fear and hatred. ...my $.02 Mike [snip] ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] I tribute to Canadians
LOl well that is really cute except I don't believe this country is about peacekeeping. Nice banner to wave and it gives lots of Canadians a warm fuzzy but it just aint so anymore ...if it ever was. The part about the beaver is true. Let's get our brothers and sisters the hell out of Afghanistan. Joe Mike Redler wrote: Even though it came from a cheesy commercial, I still like this one... (Joe, did you write this?) Hey, I’m not a lumberjack or a fur trader. I don’t live in an igloo, or eat blubber or own a dog sled. And I don’t know Jimmy, Sally or Suzie from Canada (although I’m certain they’re really, really nice.) I have a prime minister not a president. I speak English and French, not American, and I pronounce it “about” not “aboot.” I can proudly sew my country’s flag on my backpack. I believe in peacekeeping, not policing, diversity, not assimilation, and that the beaver is a truly proud and noble animal. A toque is a hat, a chesterfield is a couch and it is pronounced “zed” not “zee” — “zed.” Canada’s the second largest land mass, the first nation of hockey and the best part of North America. My name is Joe and I am Canadian! [meekly] Thank you. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Meanwhile in the free world...
I didn't know Marines needed sanctuary. Mark Manchester wrote: We run screaming from the room, hands aloft. Jesse On Jun 21, 2006, at 7:21 AM, Mike Weaver wrote: Republicans in the House of Representatives forced everyone to spend an entire day discussing a non-binding resolution praising the troops and labeling Iraq part of the War on Terror. Later they will debate a resolution declaring kittens 'adorable' --Jon Stewart)President Bush is creating a Marine sanctuary in the Pacific Ocean off the northwest islands of Hawaii. You know what that means? No oil there. --Jay Leno ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Castor oil
Hello I would like to know if it´s posible to make biodiesel from castor oil. Hi Andrés Certainly it's possible. I think you can just make it the same way as with any other oil. Castor beans can yield three times as much oil as soybeans, averaging 1,413 litres of oil per hectare or 151 US gal per acre or more. The plant often grows as a weed on waste land and doesn't need much or any care and attention. From previous messages: I have had some experience in growing the plant a few years ago. The plant grows into a stalk approximately 5-7' tall with a diameter of approximately 4', it will continue to produce seeds continuely for several months. The seeds grow from bunches with approximately 6-8 seed pods per bunch, with each pod containing 3 seeds encased in a hard shell. -- Addison Griffith In Chile, castor bean is a serious weed. It grows extremely fast, reaching over two meters height and diameter within 8 months. If you have moisture, as near an irrigation canal, you can collect many hundreds of seeds, even perhaps a thousand or more from each plant. It thrives on no management or additional fertilization. Roadsides are a good place to find them. I considered them, together with jojoba, as an oil seed crop, before selling out and moving to Argentina. I crushed one, yes one, plant's worth in a primitive homemade press and got about a liter of oil. -- Andres Yver The oil has a lower Iodine Value (85) than either soy or rapeseed oil so it won't oxidise and polymerise as easily and can be stored for years without deteriorating. Unlike palm oil it also has a low melting point (-18 deg C), making it a good winter fuel. The seed contains ricin, which is highly toxic, but it's in the seed husk and remains in the seedcake, there isn't any in the oil. The seedcake is said to be suitable for use as an organic fertiliser (but it isn't easily composted). But it is a disadvantage that the seedcake cannot be fed to livestock. James Duke says: Although it is highly toxic due to the ricin, a method of detoxicating the meal has now been found, so that it can safely be fed to livestock. See: Ricinus communis, Handbook of Energy Crops, James A. Duke, 1983 http://www.hort.purdue.edu/newcrop/duke_energy/Ricinus_communis.html Pannirselvam in Brazil discussed a direct process, without extracting the oil from the crushed seeds first: ...one step simultaneous extraction and esterification, the patented process use crushed seeds to make four products, the biodiesel, the glycerol, the protein, carbohydrate that seem to be deintoxicated for animal feed. Bob Allen said: I interpreted this to mean that the crushed seeds are subjected to the alkali catalyst/methanol hence the seedcake is exposed to the reaction... Ricin is a protein which would be denatured by the reaction conditions. Denaturation just means changing the shape of the protein, thus inactivating it. But we don't know the details of the process Pannirselvam mentioned. He also said One main problem with castor oil BioD is the viscosity that can be easily solved. But he didn't say how. Castor oil is much more viscous than other vegetable oils, and 100 times more viscous than petroleum diesel fuel. As with all oils, it's much less viscous once turned into biodiesel, but the viscosity is still higher than the limits allowed by the national biodiesel standards. Blending it with some ethanol might be a solution. Unlike most other vegetable oils, castor oil is ethanol soluble. Pannirselvam also mentioned producing ethanol from the carbohydrate portion of the seedcake, leaving just the protein for the livestock feed. This paper in the Biofuels online library discusses using castor oil to separate anhydrous ethanol, which could be used instead of methanol in the biodiesel process. Separating Ethanol From Water -- by Renaldo V. Jenkins of Langley Research Center, Hampton, Virginia, USA. More economical methods of separating water from ethanol to produce anhydrous ethanol: 2. using castor oil. http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel_library/eth_separate.html#castoil This is an informative website about castor oil, and biodiesel generally: http://www.castoroil.in/uses/fuel/castor_oil_fuel.html Castor Oil as Biofuel Biodiesel - Info, WWW Resources on Castoroil as Bio-fuel, Bio-diesel Some previous messages you should read: http://snipurl.com/s4vk Re: [Biofuel] sustainable biodiesel from Casto : Big is not beautiful, s pan ruti Thu, 06 Apr 2006 http://snipurl.com/s4vl Re: [Biofuel] sustainable biodiesel from Casto : Big is not beautiful, s Keith Addison Wed, 12 Apr 2006 http://snipurl.com/s4vm Re: [Biofuel] sustainable biodiesel from Casto : Big is not beautiful, s pan ruti Fri, 21 Apr 2006 Hope this helps. Best Keith ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to
[Biofuel] Global Awareness Day Phoenix, Arizona
Hello list, I know this is an interntational list but I thought I could contact a large audience with this list-service. If you live in the Phoenix area. A quick message asking if anyone would like to demonstrate bio-diesel or ethanol at the Arizona Science Center. We are having an environmental education day and we would like to demonstrate some bio-based fuels. We are planning on demonstrating Photo-Voltaic, permaculture, strawbale construction, bio-fuels. We have some wildlife rehab people scheduled and the Sierra Club. It is a large undertaking but we are giving it a go. If anyone is interested you can email or call. My contact information is below. I would be happy to talk with you or send more information about the day we are planning. Thanks, Mike Bodak Exhibits Technician AZ Science Center 602-716-2570 __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
