Re: [Biofuel] the tax man cometh
the tax applies to any fuel produced and used on-road. I don't have the letter here in front of me, but as I recall it wanted to know how much I produced total and how much was used as on-road motor fuel. The tax is retroactive for 2005. DHAJOGLO wrote: Does the tax apply even if you are producing it as an additive? -dave On Monday, August 07, 2006 4:13 PM, bob allen wrote: Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2006 16:13:54 -0500 From: bob allen To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: [Biofuel] the tax man cometh I recently received a letter from the Arkansas Department of finance. I am to herewith submit 22.5 cents per gallon of biodiesel produced. I guess that this happened because of an article that appeared in a statewide newspaper, concerning my manufacture of biodiesel as a student project. (Some pin-headed commercial producer felt that I should be paying my fair share of taxes), which I don't mind. Now if I can just figure out how to get the 50 cent-a-gallon produce tax credit. -- Bob Allen, http://ozarker.org/bob = The modern conservative is engaged in one of Man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness JKG ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ -- -- Bob Allen,http://ozarker.org/bob -- - The modern conservative is engaged in one of Man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness JKG ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Out to Lunch
http://eatthestate.org/10-24/OuttoLunch.htm (August 10, 2006) Out to Lunch by Remi Kanazi The US media's biased coverage of the crisis in Lebanon should come as no surprise. While the White House and Congress claim a special relationship with Israel, our news outlets are not supposed to have a special relationship with anyone. Their job is to report fairly on the issues; anything less is a disservice to those watching their news programs and reading their newspapers. Shockingly, Larry King Live has been fair in its coverage of the conflict consuming Lebanon in contrast to Fox News' O'Reilly Factor, MSNBC's Scarborough Country and yes, CNN's darling Anderson Cooper 360. There is, however, much criticism to be doled out to CNN's longest-running interview program. One need look no further than Larry King Live's first two guests, Republican Senator George Allen and Democratic Senator Evan Bayh. It was nice to see--in this nine minute segment--two senators putting their congressional partisan politics aside to stand together in solidarity with the state of Israel. When Larry King asked Senator Allen if the US should be a true broker in the region, Allen replied, We support Israel, you're right Larry. Israel is a wellspring in the wilderness in the Middle East and we do support them and their right to protect themselves. The next guest on the show was positioned as the Lebanese side. Larry King Live passed off the nearly four minute interview with Chibli Mallat--one of the leaders of the Cedar Revolution, deep critic of Hezbollah and candidate for President--as the voice of the Lebanese people. When Larry King asked Mallat about Hezbollah Secretary General Hassan Nasrallah's remark that the conflict is an Israeli/American plot to control the Middle East, Mallat responded, I'm afraid that I do agree with the senators. He [Nasrallah] initiated the conflict, and all this talk about a great plot between Israel and America is out of place. The conflict was initiated... by [Hezbollah's] reckless action through the Blue Line that separates Lebanon from Israel. That was a grave violation of international law and I think also a grave violation of Lebanese law. Like a true patriot, Mallat later urged restraint from Israel, echoing comments made by Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice weeks earlier. Now that the Lebanese people were heard, it was necessary to bring on the Israeli side, Israeli Consul General Ehud Danoch, to counter any Lebanese propaganda. For nearly four minutes, Danoch defended Israel and extensively illustrated its commitment to root out terrorism. As icing on the cake, Danoch took softball e-mails from viewers and general questions from Larry King such as, Why do you oppose a cease-fire now? and Are you optimistic? One would think that after Larry King Live came back from break, the show would cut to the carnage in Lebanon, the destruction of its infrastructure, or an analyst discussing the humanitarian implications the siege on Lebanon presents. Not exactly. When the program returned from the break, Larry King cut to Anderson Cooper in Northern Israel, who--given the amount of reporting he's doing in the North--may as well be looking for a second home. Larry King then cut to Dr. Sanjay Gupta in Haifa. While Gupta spoke of the horror Katyusha rockets exact (thousands have been fired, inflicting very little damage relative to Israel's 500 pound bombs and artillery shells), pictures crossed the screen of injured Israeli women and children. The producers, however, were still unsatisfied. Before going to commercial, Anderson Cooper needed another six minutes explaining that the terrorist group, Hezbollah, is hiding within the civilian population. Cooper makes no mention of the fact that Hezbollah formed as a resistance group to fight off an Israeli military that slaughtered nearly twenty thousand innocent Lebanese and Palestinian civilians in 1982. To justify the mass murder of the Lebanese population today, Cooper makes clear to the viewer that while Israel is trying to be as accurate as possible, even the most moral military in the world can only be so precise. It's ironic that Cooper always has the exact number of Katyusha rockets fired on Israel, but the exact number of cluster bombs, artillery shells, and missiles used against the civilian population of Lebanon seems to evade his statistical charts. A simple cut to commercial would not suffice; the producers of the program realized that any decent show must have a good outro. Larry King Live eased into the commercial with a balanced set of pictures: first, a young Muslim girl holding a picture of Hassan Nasrallah, followed by what is assumed to be a group of Lebanese burning American and Israeli flags, followed by a man carrying a blanket-covered lifeless body, succeeded by two young covered Muslim girls (one of them is in tears), and the sequence ended with three injured
[Biofuel] Stop the Abuse of Power
Stop the Abuse of Power is a twelve-minute video that weaves together these reckless decisions by our leaders and exposes the dire consequences for your rights, and in the lives of countless real people here in the United States and across the globe. WATCH THE VIDEOWatch the full 12-minute video: Stop the Abuse of Power or view a 30-second trailer (Windows Media) ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Open Letter to Bush from a Young Arab Woman
http://eatthestate.org/10-24/OpenLetterto.htm Arab Woman by Mira Al Hussein 2 August 2006 President Bush, It has become extremely difficult to give you the benefit of the doubt on Lebanon, for you have left no doubt in our minds. We are now certain--like many of us have always been--that your foreign policy is completely biased towards Israel, and you have made no effort to hide this fact. It is your choice, Mr. Bush, to support Israel, just like it is our--the entire Arab and Muslim world's--choice to support Lebanon. You insist that Israel has the right to defend itself. Defending oneself, I believe, is a universal right, not exclusive to Israel. The first Qana massacre did not quench the Israeli thirst for blood, it is said, graphically describing yet another Israeli crime against the innocents of Lebanon. In Qana, 57 weaponless, defenseless civilians died in an Israeli air strike. Thirty-seven of them were children. Maybe these numbers don't matter to you, Mr. Bush; they are mere numbers of the nameless Lebanese dead. But they matter to more than 200 million Arabs in the Middle East. I quote our late president, Shaikh Zayed bin Sultan Al Nahyan, who in 1973 had said, Arab oil is not dearer than Arab blood. But it seems that Iraqi oil is dearer than American blood. I am somewhat relieved to arrive at this conclusion. At least there's no racism against a certain group of people. Everybody is a potential sacrifice to secure US interests, even if it means sacrificing a whole nation. No, Mr. Bush, we will not accept, nor will we allow the sacrifice of more Lebanese civilians. A ceasefire should have been enforced two weeks ago. Was there a need for 37 children to die before you decided it was time for a ceasefire? How many more, Mr. Bush, should die before you decide to stop sending those bloody weapons to Israel? Perhaps we can afford a sacrifice that will rein in your generosity towards Israel permanently? We, the people of the Middle East, have a dream for a new Middle East. Not the New Middle East that you've been brainstorming in your Oval Office. It is the new Middle East that Middle Easterners have been dreaming of: a Middle East with no violence, and no US-made weapons to fuel that violence. It is a dream only we, Middle Easterners, are allowed to dream and realize. In Arabic we have a saying that goes, They murder the murdered and walk in his funeral. Allow me to interpret this for you, Mr. Bush: Your precision-guided missiles shipment has arrived in Tel Aviv. These missiles will precisely fall onto Lebanese villages; kill hundreds; and displace thousands more. (Evidently, we've just witnessed the first precise target in Qana.) Yet you have compassionately been able to send aid to Beirut, at the same time, with supplies for the thousands of people directly and fatally affected by your vocal, (im)moral and military support for Israel. Please include US flags in your aid shipment to Beirut; they must have burned all the US flags in stock. Mr. Bush, Lebanon can and will be rebuilt, but lost lives cannot be restored. Your credibility and your government's credibility have long been lost--irretrievably lost like those lost innocent lives. However, people will not forget this. They will not turn the other cheek; they will retaliate--just like you chose to retaliate after 9/11. Retaliation is a value you have successfully promoted by putting it into practice, always. I was born too late to see how the British Empire collapsed, but right on time to see how the American Empire is falling apart. Mr. Bush, you will surely be remembered in history for hastening that process. With no more respect to offer, Mira Al Hussein Mira Al Hussein is a writer based in Dubai, United Arab Emirates who has written for Dubai's English-language Khaleej Times. She can be reached at [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] the tax man cometh
Hey Bob,I think your situation reinforces the idea that fuel/energy dependence isn't an OPEC thingand that the problem is home grown. If corporations and local governments didn't work together to limit the number of sources, you couldn't effectively tax it. I'm not against taxes, just how I'm taxed and what it's spent on (i.e. 750,000,000,000 on "defense").If my local government tried something like that with me, I'd seriously consider producer gas as a fuel. Let them try and noodle out a method of measuring and taxing CO and H2 by the cubic foot. The perfect fuel for a bureaucracy. The longer one waits to measure it, the less fuel their is to measure.:-)- RedlerP.S. I went to http://www.ozarker.org/and noticed that there is no "Recreational Bob" link. Shame on you.bob allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the tax applies to any fuel produced and used on-road. I don't have the letter here in front of me, but as I recall it wanted to know how much I produced total and how much was used as on-road motor fuel. The tax is retroactive for 2005.DHAJOGLO wrote: Does the tax apply even if you are producing it as an "additive?" -dave On Monday, August 07, 2006 4:13 PM, bob allen wrote: Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2006 16:13:54 -0500 From: bob allen To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: [Biofuel] the tax man cometh I recently received a letter from the Arkansas Department of finance. I am to herewith submit 22.5 cents per gallon of biodiesel produced. I guess that this happened because of an article that appeared in a statewide newspaper, concerning my manufacture of biodiesel as a student project. (Some pin-headed commercial producer felt that I should be paying my fair share of taxes), which I don't mind. Now if I can just figure out how to get the 50 cent-a-gallon produce tax credit. -- Bob Allen, http://ozarker.org/bob ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] George Galloway _ Lebanon. View it while you can
It appears Bush has at least 3 motives for war. 1. OIL 2. support of radical right "Christianity" and their "end time" views thus their support of war. 3. Support of his allie Israel which wants his support for their expansionism. His father when director of CIA furthered this by CIA bankrolling Murdochso he could purchase all the media which we see is now pro Israel. News reporting is not what they do. CONsensus forming is what they do. Basically it seems oil ambitions have joined expansionist ambitions.Perhaps they are not so separate.Theremay be another factor as well in the alliance. see http://www.puritans.net/news/royalty022703.htm Both George Bush and Barbara Pierce Bush (of Merrill, Lynch, Pierce, Fenner and Smith) are descended from the same Pierce family of England as President Franklin Pierce. Originally known as the enormously powerful Percy family of England, a name change to Pierce was required along with a quick immigration to America, when their involvement in the failed Gun Powder Plot to blow up Parliament became known. One of the Percy castles, where this plot was hatched was known as Sion House. Other notable Bush relatives include the Grosvenor families of England and America, and the Taft family of Ohio. The Grosvenors of England are the Dukes of Westminster who own the most substantial properties in the City of London --- the banker's capital. Of over 100,000 acres of Grosvenor property, most is in the financial district of London! In America, the Grosvenors founded Nation Geographic. National Geographic is known for sweeping down on the archeological treasures of the world, especially those of a religious significance, and spiriting them away to the Smithsonian Institute, controlled by their cousins the Smithsons, also descended from the Percys. Imposing false interpretations on religious finds is very important to the House of Sion. -- Exercise caution when researching on the Internet as there is lots of misinformation but you can sometimes get leads from sites if nothing else. Takes some sifting but the stories are often colorful. Most of the pillars of society are scoundrels and worse. History books -- old history books to be more accurate - are interesting sources. Most modern ones are sanitized.KirkPS Harriman is also in the Bush family tree. I think that is the Harriman of Brown bros and Harriman -bankersMike Redler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The caption under his picture reads "Former President Jimmy Carter says that Bush has encouraged Israel and Hezbollah to attack."Absolutely.1.) Fabricated provocation of war by Hezbollah through selective recollection of the events.2.) Reports of Iranian fighters killed in Lebanon3.) Intense media coverage by FOX to raise sympathy for Israel's government4.) Increased media coverage by FOX of Iranian saber rattling by it's leadership.5.) Continued media coverage by FOX of suspicious activities in Syria.So, what do you think of a U.S. state department campaign for a war against Iran, starting with a proxy war against Lebanon, then Syria? In my opinion, Bush is capable of anything and although I hesitated to speculate, I also don't put it past him or some of the religious zealots running the federal government to execute such a radical plan. Mikefox mulder wrote: his over all view is that he is sickened by thepictures he sees, on sky news every hour, of burned and maimed babies and children. the double standard of the countries like UK and USA is apparent. Please listen to the former president Carter who is an intellectual not lunatic like Bush. Source: cnn http://edition.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/08/05/carter.mideast.ap/. Open multiple messages at once with the all new Yahoo! Mail Beta. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] George Galloway _ Lebanon. View it while you can
Throughout my life, growing up, initially ignoring the news like most children, then paying more attention and then eventually learning of media control and being disgusted and so again ignoring, and then returning and watching it as a propaganda source and as an indicator of where control is being exercised has been a gradual process of unfolding for me. But there through it all has been a voice I have often heard. One of the quieter voices that sometimes gets a chance at the microphone but generally not, is the voice that keeps saying there are those who promote war. War is needed. War is what sustains some element of the warped western society. That voice is ringing in my head now and I wonder where the next conflict will spring up. It is true. I guess the situation in Iraq has turned into one where the US is spending more than it wants to and using too many of it's own weapons because it has to. It only makes sense that a conflict needs to happen elsewhere where weapons need to be used up which are bought and paid for and replaced with new ones which are bought and paid for. Where will the next cash cow be? Can anyone guess? Joe Kirk McLoren wrote: It appears Bush has at least 3 motives for war. 1. OIL 2. support of radical right "Christianity" and their "end time" views thus their support of war. 3. Support of his allie Israel which wants his support for their expansionism. His father when director of CIA furthered this by CIA bankrolling Murdochso he could purchase all the media which we see is now pro Israel. News reporting is not what they do. CONsensus forming is what they do. Basically it seems oil ambitions have joined expansionist ambitions.Perhaps they are not so separate. Theremay be another factor as well in the alliance. see http://www.puritans.net/news/royalty022703.htm Both George Bush and Barbara Pierce Bush (of Merrill, Lynch, Pierce, Fenner and Smith) are descended from the same Pierce family of England as President Franklin Pierce. Originally known as the enormously powerful Percy family of England, a name change to Pierce was required along with a quick immigration to America, when their involvement in the failed Gun Powder Plot to blow up Parliament became known. One of the Percy castles, where this plot was hatched was known as Sion House. Other notable Bush relatives include the Grosvenor families of England and America, and the Taft family of Ohio. The Grosvenors of England are the Dukes of Westminster who own the most substantial properties in the City of London --- the banker's capital. Of over 100,000 acres of Grosvenor property, most is in the financial district of London! In America, the Grosvenors founded Nation Geographic. National Geographic is known for sweeping down on the archeological treasures of the world, especially those of a religious significance, and spiriting them away to the Smithsonian Institute, controlled by their cousins the Smithsons, also descended from the Percys. Imposing false interpretations on religious finds is very important to the House of Sion. -- Exercise caution when researching on the Internet as there is lots of misinformation but you can sometimes get leads from sites if nothing else. Takes some sifting but the stories are often colorful. Most of the pillars of society are scoundrels and worse. History books -- old history books to be more accurate - are interesting sources. Most modern ones are sanitized. Kirk PS Harriman is also in the Bush family tree. I think that is the Harriman of Brown bros and Harriman -bankers Mike Redler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The caption under his picture reads "Former President Jimmy Carter says that Bush has encouraged Israel and Hezbollah to attack." Absolutely. 1.) Fabricated provocation of war by Hezbollah through selective recollection of the events. 2.) Reports of Iranian fighters killed in Lebanon 3.) Intense media coverage by FOX to raise sympathy for Israel's government 4.) Increased media coverage by FOX of Iranian saber rattling by it's leadership. 5.) Continued media coverage by FOX of suspicious activities in Syria. So, what do you think of a U.S. state department campaign for a war against Iran, starting with a proxy war against Lebanon, then Syria? In my opinion, Bush is capable of anything and although I hesitated to speculate, I also don't put it past him or some of the religious zealots running the federal government to execute such a radical plan. Mike fox mulder wrote: his over all view is that he is sickened by the pictures he sees, on sky news every hour, of burned and maimed babies and children. the double standard of the countries like UK and USA is apparent. Please listen to the former president Carter who is an intellectual not lunatic like Bush. Source: cnn http://edition.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/08/05/carter.mideast.ap/ . Open
Re: [Biofuel] George Galloway _ Lebanon. View it while you can
Couldn't agree with you more, Joe. Mike DuPree - Original Message - From: Joe Street To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 12:15 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] George Galloway _ Lebanon. View it while you can Throughout my life, growing up, initially ignoring the news like most children, then paying more attention and then eventually learning of media control and being disgusted and so again ignoring, and then returning and watching it as a propaganda source and as an indicator of where control is being exercised has been a gradual process of unfolding for me. But there through it all has been a voice I have often heard. One of the quieter voices that sometimes gets a chance at the microphone but generally not, is the voice that keeps saying there are those who promote war. War is needed. War is what sustains some element of the warped western society. That voice is ringing in my head now and I wonder where the next conflict will spring up. It is true. I guess the situation in Iraq has turned into one where the US is spending more than it wants to and using too many of it's own weapons because it has to. It only makes sense that a conflict needs to happen elsewhere where weapons need to be used up which are bought and paid for and replaced with new ones which are bought and paid for. Where will the next cash cow be? Can anyone guess?JoeKirk McLoren wrote: It appears Bush has at least 3 motives for war. 1. OIL 2. support of radical right "Christianity" and their "end time" views thus their support of war. 3. Support of his allie Israel which wants his support for their expansionism. His father when director of CIA furthered this by CIA bankrolling Murdochso he could purchase all the media which we see is now pro Israel. News reporting is not what they do. CONsensus forming is what they do. Basically it seems oil ambitions have joined expansionist ambitions.Perhaps they are not so separate. Theremay be another factor as well in the alliance. see http://www.puritans.net/news/royalty022703.htm Both George Bush and Barbara Pierce Bush (of Merrill, Lynch, Pierce, Fenner and Smith) are descended from the same Pierce family of England as President Franklin Pierce. Originally known as the enormously powerful Percy family of England, a name change to Pierce was required along with a quick immigration to America, when their involvement in the failed Gun Powder Plot to blow up Parliament became known. One of the Percy castles, where this plot was hatched was known as Sion House. Other notable Bush relatives include the Grosvenor families of England and America, and the Taft family of Ohio. The Grosvenors of England are the Dukes of Westminster who own the most substantial properties in the City of London --- the banker's capital. Of over 100,000 acres of Grosvenor property, most is in the financial district of London! In America, the Grosvenors founded Nation Geographic. National Geographic is known for sweeping down on the archeological treasures of the world, especially those of a religious significance, and spiriting them away to the Smithsonian Institute, controlled by their cousins the Smithsons, also descended from the Percys. Imposing false interpretations on religious finds is very important to the House of Sion. -- Exercise caution when researching on the Internet as there is lots of misinformation but you can sometimes get leads from sites if nothing else. Takes some sifting but the stories are often colorful. Most of the pillars of society are scoundrels and worse. History books -- old history books to be more accurate - are interesting sources. Most modern ones are sanitized. Kirk PS Harriman is also in the Bush family tree. I think that is the Harriman of Brown bros and Harriman -bankers Mike Redler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The caption under his picture reads "Former President Jimmy Carter says that Bush has encouraged Israel and Hezbollah to attack."Absolutely.1.) Fabricated provocation of war by Hezbollah through selective recollection of the events.2.) Reports of Iranian fighters killed in Lebanon3.) Intense media coverage by FOX to raise sympathy for Israel's government4.) Increased media coverage by FOX of Iranian saber rattling by it's leadership.5.) Continued media coverage by FOX of suspicious activities in Syria.So, what do you think of a U.S. state department campaign for a war against Iran, starting with a proxy war against Lebanon, then Syria? In my opinion, Bush is capable of anything and although I hesitated to speculate, I also don't
[Biofuel] {Disarmed} Re: George Galloway _ Lebanon. View it while you can
Let me also add this note. I haven't checked the Pentagon site for this info. Maybe someone else would care to research it and verify. But here you. -- Mike DuPree http://english.people.com.cn//200608/09/eng20060809_291225.html 40,000 U.S. soldiers have deserted from military since 2000: report printResizeButton(); Some 40,000 personnel from all branches of the U.S. military have deserted since 2000, U.S. media quoted Pentagon sources as saying Tuesday. From the total, more than half had served in the U.S. Army, according to the report. Anti-war organizations said that the mass desertions were due to the strong resistance to war which is more prevalent than the military has openly admitted. "They (U.S. military) lied in Vietnam about the amount of opposition to the war and they're lying now," said Eric Seitz, an attorney who represents Army Lt. Ehren Watada, the first commissioned officer to refuse to join his brigade when it was sent to Iraq last month. He is now under military custody in Fort Lewis, Washington. A 2002 Army report said that desertion was fairly constant but "tends to worsen during wartime." Source: Xinhua - Original Message - From: Joe Street To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 12:15 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] George Galloway _ Lebanon. View it while you can Throughout my life, growing up, initially ignoring the news like most children, then paying more attention and then eventually learning of media control and being disgusted and so again ignoring, and then returning and watching it as a propaganda source and as an indicator of where control is being exercised has been a gradual process of unfolding for me. But there through it all has been a voice I have often heard. One of the quieter voices that sometimes gets a chance at the microphone but generally not, is the voice that keeps saying there are those who promote war. War is needed. War is what sustains some element of the warped western society. That voice is ringing in my head now and I wonder where the next conflict will spring up. It is true. I guess the situation in Iraq has turned into one where the US is spending more than it wants to and using too many of it's own weapons because it has to. It only makes sense that a conflict needs to happen elsewhere where weapons need to be used up which are bought and paid for and replaced with new ones which are bought and paid for. Where will the next cash cow be? Can anyone guess?JoeKirk McLoren wrote: It appears Bush has at least 3 motives for war. 1. OIL 2. support of radical right "Christianity" and their "end time" views thus their support of war. 3. Support of his allie Israel which wants his support for their expansionism. His father when director of CIA furthered this by CIA bankrolling Murdochso he could purchase all the media which we see is now pro Israel. News reporting is not what they do. CONsensus forming is what they do. Basically it seems oil ambitions have joined expansionist ambitions.Perhaps they are not so separate. Theremay be another factor as well in the alliance. see http://www.puritans.net/news/royalty022703.htm Both George Bush and Barbara Pierce Bush (of Merrill, Lynch, Pierce, Fenner and Smith) are descended from the same Pierce family of England as President Franklin Pierce. Originally known as the enormously powerful Percy family of England, a name change to Pierce was required along with a quick immigration to America, when their involvement in the failed Gun Powder Plot to blow up Parliament became known. One of the Percy castles, where this plot was hatched was known as Sion House. Other notable Bush relatives include the Grosvenor families of England and America, and the Taft family of Ohio. The Grosvenors of England are the Dukes of Westminster who own the most substantial properties in the City of London --- the banker's capital. Of over 100,000 acres of Grosvenor property, most is in the financial district of London! In America, the Grosvenors founded Nation Geographic. National Geographic is known for sweeping down on the archeological treasures of the world, especially those of a religious significance, and spiriting them away to the Smithsonian Institute, controlled by their cousins the Smithsons, also descended from the Percys. Imposing false interpretations on religious finds is very important to the House of Sion. -- Exercise caution when researching on the Internet as there is lots of misinformation but you can sometimes get leads
[Biofuel] Re article about deserters
Was given this as the original story. STill would like to see the actual numbers though.Kirk Oddly, the number has DROPPED since the Afghanistan War started. Here's the original story:July 05, 2006*Thousands of troops say they wont fight**By Ana Radelat*/Gannett News Servicehttp://www.airforcetimes.com/story.php?f=1-292925-1930387.php/Swept up by a wave of patriotism after the U.S. invasion of Iraq, Chris Magaoay joined the Marine Corps in November 2004.The newly married Magaoay thought a military career would allow him to continue his college education, help his country and set his life on the right path.Less than two years later, Magaoay became one of thousands of military deserters who have chosen a lifetime of exile or possible court-martial rather than fight in Iraq or Afghanistan.It wasnt something I did on the spur of the moment, said Magaoay, a native of Maui, Hawaii. It took me a long time to realize what was going on. The war is illegal.Magaoay said his disillusionment with the military began in boot camp in Twentynine Palms, Calif., where a superior officer joked about killing and mistreating Iraqis. When his unit was deployed to Iraq in March, Magaoay and his wife drove to Canada, joining a small group of deserters who are trying to win permission from the Canadian government to stay.Were like a tight-knit family, Magaoay said.The Pentagon says deserters like Magaoay represent a tiny fraction of the nations fighting forces.The vast majority of soldiers who desert do so for personal, family or financial problems, not for political or conscientious objector purposes, said Lt. Col. Bryan Hilferty, a spokesman for the Army.Since 2000, about 40,000 troops from all branches of the military have deserted, the Pentagon says. More than half served in the Army. But the Army says numbers have decreased each year since the United States began its war on terror in Afghanistan.Those who help war resisters say desertion is more prevalent than the military has admitted.They lied in Vietnam with the amount of opposition to the war and theyre lying now, said Eric Seitz, an attorney who represents Army Lt. Ehren Watada, the first commissioned officer to refuse deployment to the war in Iraq.Watada is under military custody in Fort Lewis, Wash., because he refused to join his Stryker brigade when it was sent to Iraq last month.Watada said he doesnt object to war but considers the conflict in Iraq illegal. The Army has turned down his request to resign and plans to file charges against him.Critics of the Iraq war have demonstrated on the lieutenants behalf. Conservative bloggers call him a traitor and opportunist.Joe Davis, spokesman for the Veterans of Foreign Wars, said deserters arent traitors because theyve done nothing to help Americas enemies. But he rejects arguments that deserters have a moral right to refuse to fight wars they consider unjust.None of us can choose our wars. Theyre always a political decision, Davis said. Theyre letting their buddies down and hurting morale - and morale is everything on the battlefront.Because todays military is an all-volunteer force, troops seeking objector status must convince superior officers theyve had an honest change of heart about the morality of war.The last time the U.S. military executed a deserter was World War II. But hundreds face court-martials and imprisonment every year.Members of the armed forces are considered absent without leave when they are unaccounted for. They become deserters after theyve been AWOL for 30 days.A 2002 Army report says desertion is fairly constant but tends to worsen during wartime, when theres an increased need for troops and enlistment standards are more lax. They also say deserters tend to be less educated and more likely to have engaged in delinquent behavior than other troops.Army spokesman Hilferty said the Army doesnt try to find deserters. Instead, their names are given to civilian law enforcement officers who often nab them during routine traffic stops and turn them over to the military.Commanders then decide whether to rehabilitate or court-martial the alleged deserter. Theres an incentive to rehabilitate because it costs the military an average of $38,000 to recruit and train a replacement.Jeffry House, an attorney in Toronto who represents Magaoay and other deserters, said there are about 200 deserters living in Canada. They have decided not to seek refugee status but instead are leading clandestine lives, he said.Like many of the people helping todays war resisters, House fled to Canada to avoid the Vietnam War. About 50,000 Americans sought legal residency in Canada during the Vietnam era.You would apply at the border and if you didnt have a criminal record, you were in, House said.He said changes in Canadian law make it harder for resisters to flee north. Now, potential immigrants must apply for Canadian residency in their home countries. Resisters say that exposes them to
Re: [Biofuel] Farmer in France arrested for driving vegetable-poweredtruck
big brother might have the size and power, but little brother has the speed and a Tazer... On Wed, 2006-08-09 at 18:42 -0700, Derick Giorchino wrote: Good for him. I hope the law looses there case against him. Maybe we as people of the world should get together in groups and buy the land as groups so all the roads are owned by the land owners as is done here in the states in some places as private planed communities. This will take time but the absurd thing about this is we the people of the world have purchased the roads many times over yet we are held to a higher standard than an owner. Why? Is it that we are not doing what big brother tells us to do? We are not lining there pockets. I think it is time to show big brother that we have grown up and don’t need our hands held at every turn. Nor slapped. Some day little brother will stand up if there is not some understanding of what we need or want. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 6:07 PM To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: [Biofuel] Farmer in France arrested for driving vegetable-poweredtruck Forwarding from another source. You may need a subscription to see the full article via the URL. Darryl === http://news.independent.co.uk/europe/article1214520.ece Friday, August 4th, 2006 John Lichfield in Paris A French farmer faces prosecution for driving on public roads in a vegetable-powered truck. Olivier Lainé, a cereals farmer based near Rouen in Normandy, believes he will go down in history, not as a criminal, or tax-evader, but a “revolutionary”. M. Lainé, 49, was arrested near his farm by French customs officers. He faces prosecution for driving a vehicle powered by an “unauthorised fuel” - namely pure vegetable oil, made from colza, or rape seed, grown on his own farm. An EU directive passed last year instructs member states to encourage the use of pure vegetable oil as a form of fuel for diesel-powered vehicles. Paris has failed so far to translate the directive into law. “They say that I am breaking the law. I say that they are breaking European law,” M. Lainé said. “We will see who is right. What I am doing will be seen as the beginning of a revolution. The world is short of fossil fuels. It has a surplus of agricultural produce. Using pure vegetable oil as a fuel can make a small contribution to solving both problems.” M. Lainé is spokesman within the département of Seine-Maritime for the militant small farmers’ union, the Confédération Pay-sanne. The union accused the French government yesterday of “hypocrisy”. Paris talks of making a contribution to a cleaner environment, the union said, but blocks local initiatives to use pure vegetable oil. The use of vegetable oil as fuel is authorised for vehicles while operating on a farm. It is illegal to drive vegetable-powered vehicles on public roads because no tax has been paid on the fuel. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Open Letter to Bush from a Young Arab Woman
this woman is right, i dont think i could even make myself disagree as a joke... On Thu, 2006-08-10 at 21:36 +0900, Keith Addison wrote: http://eatthestate.org/10-24/OpenLetterto.htm Arab Woman by Mira Al Hussein 2 August 2006 President Bush, It has become extremely difficult to give you the benefit of the doubt on Lebanon, for you have left no doubt in our minds. We are now certain--like many of us have always been--that your foreign policy is completely biased towards Israel, and you have made no effort to hide this fact. It is your choice, Mr. Bush, to support Israel, just like it is our--the entire Arab and Muslim world's--choice to support Lebanon. You insist that Israel has the right to defend itself. Defending oneself, I believe, is a universal right, not exclusive to Israel. The first Qana massacre did not quench the Israeli thirst for blood, it is said, graphically describing yet another Israeli crime against the innocents of Lebanon. In Qana, 57 weaponless, defenseless civilians died in an Israeli air strike. Thirty-seven of them were children. Maybe these numbers don't matter to you, Mr. Bush; they are mere numbers of the nameless Lebanese dead. But they matter to more than 200 million Arabs in the Middle East. I quote our late president, Shaikh Zayed bin Sultan Al Nahyan, who in 1973 had said, Arab oil is not dearer than Arab blood. But it seems that Iraqi oil is dearer than American blood. I am somewhat relieved to arrive at this conclusion. At least there's no racism against a certain group of people. Everybody is a potential sacrifice to secure US interests, even if it means sacrificing a whole nation. No, Mr. Bush, we will not accept, nor will we allow the sacrifice of more Lebanese civilians. A ceasefire should have been enforced two weeks ago. Was there a need for 37 children to die before you decided it was time for a ceasefire? How many more, Mr. Bush, should die before you decide to stop sending those bloody weapons to Israel? Perhaps we can afford a sacrifice that will rein in your generosity towards Israel permanently? We, the people of the Middle East, have a dream for a new Middle East. Not the New Middle East that you've been brainstorming in your Oval Office. It is the new Middle East that Middle Easterners have been dreaming of: a Middle East with no violence, and no US-made weapons to fuel that violence. It is a dream only we, Middle Easterners, are allowed to dream and realize. In Arabic we have a saying that goes, They murder the murdered and walk in his funeral. Allow me to interpret this for you, Mr. Bush: Your precision-guided missiles shipment has arrived in Tel Aviv. These missiles will precisely fall onto Lebanese villages; kill hundreds; and displace thousands more. (Evidently, we've just witnessed the first precise target in Qana.) Yet you have compassionately been able to send aid to Beirut, at the same time, with supplies for the thousands of people directly and fatally affected by your vocal, (im)moral and military support for Israel. Please include US flags in your aid shipment to Beirut; they must have burned all the US flags in stock. Mr. Bush, Lebanon can and will be rebuilt, but lost lives cannot be restored. Your credibility and your government's credibility have long been lost--irretrievably lost like those lost innocent lives. However, people will not forget this. They will not turn the other cheek; they will retaliate--just like you chose to retaliate after 9/11. Retaliation is a value you have successfully promoted by putting it into practice, always. I was born too late to see how the British Empire collapsed, but right on time to see how the American Empire is falling apart. Mr. Bush, you will surely be remembered in history for hastening that process. With no more respect to offer, Mira Al Hussein Mira Al Hussein is a writer based in Dubai, United Arab Emirates who has written for Dubai's English-language Khaleej Times. She can be reached at [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] the tax man cometh
Well lets see12,000 miles a year @ 42 mpg thats 285 gallons but wait blend it and you have B20 185 *.2 = 57 gallons only half was used on the road 57 / 2 = 28.5 @ 22.5 cents a gallon = $6.41Send it to them in pennies, good gooey pennies like the ones you get from a kid eating ice creamBetter yet, tell them you paid the tax when you bought the oil from WalMartThey are the ones collecting the Tax on the veggie oil you bought and therfor its dual taxation if you have to pay tax for using itOh wait, this is Arkansas the home of Wallyworld, that will be fun. From: Michael Redler [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 6:25 AMTo: biofuel@sustainablelists.orgSubject: Re: [Biofuel] the tax man cometh Hey Bob, I think your situation reinforces the idea that fuel/energy dependence isn't an OPEC thing and that the problem is home grown. If corporations and local governments didn't work together to limit the number of sources, you couldn't effectively tax it. I'm not against taxes, just how I'm taxed and what it's spent on (i.e. 750,000,000,000 on "defense"). If my local government tried something like that with me, I'd seriously consider producer gas as a fuel. Let them try and noodle out a method of measuring and taxing CO and H2 by the cubic foot. The perfect fuel for a bureaucracy. The longer one waits to measure it, the less fuel their is to measure. :-) - Redler P.S. I went to http://www.ozarker.org/ and noticed that there is no "Recreational Bob" link. Shame on you. bob allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the tax applies to any fuel produced and used on-road. I don't have the letter here in front of me, but as I recall it wanted to know how much I produced total and how much was used as on-road motor fuel. The tax is retroactive for 2005.DHAJOGLO wrote: Does the tax apply even if you are producing it as an "additive?" -dave On Monday, August 07, 2006 4:13 PM, bob allen wrote: Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2006 16:13:54 -0500 From: bob allen To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: [Biofuel] the tax man cometh I recently received a letter from the Arkansas Department of finance. I am to herewith submit 22.5 cents per gallon of biodiesel produced. I guess that this happened because of an article that appeared in a statewide newspaper, concerning my manufacture of biodiesel as a student project. (Some pin-headed commercial producer felt that I should be paying my fair share of taxes), which I don't mind. Now if I can just figure out how to get the 50 cent-a-gallon produce tax credit. -- Bob Allen, http://ozarker.org/bob ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] test please
please reply if this gets through, i changed email clients, and now i keep getting rejected emails from [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] test please
getting through - Original Message - From: root [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 6:10 PM Subject: [Biofuel] test please please reply if this gets through, i changed email clients, and now i keep getting rejected emails from [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] test please
I do too and I dont have an account with blogger. Its like our posts are being echoed to them Kirkroot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: please reply if this gets through, i changed email clients, and now ikeep getting rejected emails from [EMAIL PROTECTED]___Biofuel mailing listBiofuel@sustainablelists.orghttp://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.orgBiofuel at Journey to Forever:http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.htmlSearch the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages):http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min.___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Stop the Abuse of Power
It makes it plain to see the current administration has done more to destroy America than all the terrorists could ever hope to. It is a sad day in our history. Kirk"D. Mindock" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Stop the Abuse of Power is a twelve-minute video that weaves together these reckless decisions by our leaders and exposes the dire consequences for your rights, and in the lives of countless real people here in the United States and across the globe. WATCH THE VIDEOWatch the full 12-minute video: Stop the Abuse of Power or view a 30-second trailer (Windows Media) Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less.___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] test please
well crud, now i have THAT to track down... oh well, thanks folks. On Thu, 2006-08-10 at 18:22 -0500, MK DuPree wrote: getting through - Original Message - From: root [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 6:10 PM Subject: [Biofuel] test please please reply if this gets through, i changed email clients, and now i keep getting rejected emails from [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] test please
got through ken - Original Message - From: root [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Friday, August 11, 2006 7:10 AM Subject: [Biofuel] test please please reply if this gets through, i changed email clients, and now i keep getting rejected emails from [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] test please
I do too and I dont have an account with blogger. Its like our posts are being echoed to them Kirk That seems to be right Kirk, I can't find out who it is and can't figure out a way to stop it. Probably everybody is receiving them. A bit like the folks who join mailing lists and then leave an auto-reply whenever they leave the office for more than 9.3 nanoseconds. Okay, so it's a bit of a misunderexaggeration but you know what I mean. Anyway, sorry folks, these things are sent to try us, among other things that are also sent to try us, please bear with it, of such is life, as such, it's all part of the Great Golden Tapestry, etc. Thankyou. Keith Addison Journey to Forever KYOTO Pref., Japan http://journeytoforever.org/ Biofuel list owner root [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: please reply if this gets through, i changed email clients, and now i keep getting rejected emails from [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
