Re: [Biofuel] sunchokes, aka. jerusalem artichokes, etc
I bought mine at Gurneys. The stalks are at 9 ft tall now. You may be right about the stalk as the tubers dont form till after the first frost - seems the plant takes its strength underground. The tubers are the best eating the skin is superb and the center good too real butter is great on these after steaming. I can tell you they take alot of water to get them to do well. Jim Jason Katie wrote: i was reading around after i asked this question, and it seems to me that the stalks carry a huge portion of the sugar for a time, and then store it in the roots, and that the more efficient way to collect it is to cut the stalks like sorghum and the plant (which is basically a weed) can re-sprout for one or two more cuttings yielding between 250 and 350 gal/acre per cutting. it isnt really a better supply, it is just a way to take advantage of the extremely short growing time to its best potential. and then after the fuel harvest is over, you can thin out the root stock so you dont have to worry about being overrun by these huge plants (they are perennial, and it takes quite a bit to kill them, volunteers are the norm). does anyone know where i can find some of these things? i want to try growing a couple. On Sat, 2006-08-12 at 11:16 -0700, Kirk McLoren wrote: Roots. They store as inulin. Kirk Jason Katie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: when referring to the harvest of jerusalem artichoke heads do you mean the tuber roots or the flowers? because 1200 gallons an acre is pretty damn good by my book. an acre is the size of my parents front yard, and they dont use that much of it ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ __ Do you Yahoo!? Next-gen email? Have it all with the all-new Yahoo! Mail Beta. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Old Peugeots
Actually driving a 1994 Pug 405 I can answer a bit: Hoses etc should be OK. The Injector pump will eventually fail if it has not been reconditioned already. I doubt the pump would be original, because the low sulphur fuels also kills seals. Even if the pump leaks it will give plenty of warning. Eventually the fuel pours out of the shaft seal, but the car till runs. (This happened to me: I have 2x P405s, both pumps failed together: just unlucky) One thing to watch is the 'valve' under the fuel filter. If you look you will see a serrated retainer holding a plastic part, on the lower side of the fuel filter that is at the front of the motor. Pop this out replace the O rings on it, refit. If this fails, you get a drip of diesel showing, but the system drains at night, causing starting problems. (Even the Diesel mechanic took ages to pin that one down). I suggest changing the oil every 5K Kms, the oil filter every 10K. My oldest 405 has 320,000 Km on it now, still runs like a train. I get 15-17 Km/litre, I drive it like a sports car. Coolant is important: I use genuine Peugeot because you seem to get less problems. The heater core, in particular is an absolute pain to replace. (If ever this happens to leak, the Peugeot club in Canberra, NSW, Australia has a way to replace the core without removing the dashboard: bit of fiddling, but well worth the effort.) I use aftermarket oil filters (Donaldson), but have yet to find an aftermarket fuel filter. The motors always blow a bit of oil into the corner of the air filter. It is worth getting a washable air filter. There is a good Australian site for French cars: Aussie Frogs. regards Doug On Monday 14 August 2006 9:18, Keith Addison wrote: Hi all, I have just acquired an old 1991 Peugeot 405 turbodiesel. Does anyone have any experience of how long the fuel lines and pump seals may last if I run B100 ? Also anyone know of a UK supplier for viton seal kits? Cheers, Bob Hi Bob For 1991 you're unlikely to have problems, especially not with the fuel lines. But that presumes you're using top-quality B100. Don't assume that commercially produced fuel is necessarily top-quality, there are too many cases in both Europe and the US of that not being the case. See what it says about quality here: http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_vehicle.html#qual1 Biodiesel and your vehicle Quality Anyway if you do have problems with seals it won't be sudden, you'll have enough warning, so just go ahead and do it, IMHO. Could be wrong, but I wouldn't bother to lay in a set of Viton seals for a 1991 Peugeot just in case. Best Keith ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Don't Become a Scientist!
http://www.physics.wustl.edu/~katz/scientist.html Don't Become a Scientist! Jonathan I. Katz Professor of Physics Washington University, St. Louis, Mo. [my last [EMAIL PROTECTED]wustl.edu Are you thinking of becoming a scientist? Do you want to uncover the mysteries of nature, perform experiments or carry out calculations to learn how the world works? Forget it! Science is fun and exciting. The thrill of discovery is unique. If you are smart, ambitious and hard working you should major in science as an undergraduate. But that is as far as you should take it. After graduation, you will have to deal with the real world. That means that you should not even consider going to graduate school in science. Do something else instead: medical school, law school, computers or engineering, or something else which appeals to you. Why am I (a tenured professor of physics) trying to discourage you from following a career path which was successful for me? Because times have changed (I received my Ph.D. in 1973, and tenure in 1976). American science no longer offers a reasonable career path. If you go to graduate school in science it is in the expectation of spending your working life doing scientific research, using your ingenuity and curiosity to solve important and interesting problems. You will almost certainly be disappointed, probably when it is too late to choose another career. American universities train roughly twice as many Ph.D.s as there are jobs for them. When something, or someone, is a glut on the market, the price drops. In the case of Ph.D. scientists, the reduction in price takes the form of many years spent in ``holding pattern'' postdoctoral jobs. Permanent jobs don't pay much less than they used to, but instead of obtaining a real job two years after the Ph.D. (as was typical 25 years ago) most young scientists spend five, ten, or more years as postdocs. They have no prospect of permanent employment and often must obtain a new postdoctoral position and move every two years. For many more details consult the Young Scientists' Network or read the account in the May, 2001 issue of the Washington Monthly. As examples, consider two of the leading candidates for a recent Assistant Professorship in my department. One was 37, ten years out of graduate school (he didn't get the job). The leading candidate, whom everyone thinks is brilliant, was 35, seven years out of graduate school. Only then was he offered his first permanent job (that's not tenure, just the possibility of it six years later, and a step off the treadmill of looking for a new job every two years). The latest example is a 39 year old candidate for another Assistant Professorship; he has published 35 papers. In contrast, a doctor typically enters private practice at 29, a lawyer at 25 and makes partner at 31, and a computer scientist with a Ph.D. has a very good job at 27 (computer science and engineering are the few fields in which industrial demand makes it sensible to get a Ph.D.). Anyone with the intelligence, ambition and willingness to work hard to succeed in science can also succeed in any of these other professions. Typical postdoctoral salaries begin at $27,000 annually in the biological sciences and about $35,000 in the physical sciences (graduate student stipends are less than half these figures). Can you support a family on that income? It suffices for a young couple in a small apartment, though I know of one physicist whose wife left him because she was tired of repeatedly moving with little prospect of settling down. When you are in your thirties you will need more: a house in a good school district and all the other necessities of ordinary middle class life. Science is a profession, not a religious vocation, and does not justify an oath of poverty or celibacy. Of course, you don't go into science to get rich. So you choose not to go to medical or law school, even though a doctor or lawyer typically earns two to three times as much as a scientist (one lucky enough to have a good senior-level job). I made that choice too. I became a scientist in order to have the freedom to work on problems which interest me. But you probably won't get that freedom. As a postdoc you will work on someone else's ideas, and may be treated as a technician rather than as an independent collaborator. Eventually, you will probably be squeezed out of science entirely. You can get a fine job as a computer programmer, but why not do this at 22, rather than putting up with a decade of misery in the scientific job market first? The longer you spend in science the harder you will find it to leave, and the less attractive you will be to prospective employers in other fields. Perhaps you are so talented that you can beat the postdoc trap; some university (there are hardly any industrial jobs in the physical sciences) will be so impressed with you that you will be hired into a tenure
Re: [Biofuel] Sweden how they do it
Look out. We'll invade you next. MK DuPree wrote: Hi Jan (and List)...it's really great getting info from the horse's mouth...good to know Americans aren't the only fatheads on the planet as so many on this List like to continually proclaim. -- Mike DuPree - Original Message - *From:* Jan Warnqvist mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* biofuel@sustainablelists.org mailto:biofuel@sustainablelists.org *Sent:* Sunday, August 13, 2006 4:55 AM *Subject:* Re: [Biofuel] Sweden how they do it Hello Lugano et al. As a Swedish native I can provide a more detailed and personal picture of the possibilities of oil independence of this country. There are a number of buts: - The power companies are not allowed to increase the share of electricity coming from hydropower sources, because there is environmental, nature-protecting legislation. So, in order to become more independent of oil, we just have to trust that the 11 nuclear power plants running, will keep on to do so without serious accidents or other side effects. - Biodiesel has never been a popular product within any administration in this country. This is probably because biodiesel production can be performed in small scale. The administrative favourite product, ethanol, is a typical large scale product, which complies more with the industrial traditions of this country. One can even suspect that there is an attitude proclaiming that it is bad enough letting the farmers be in control of the food production. Things would get even worse if the farmers were in control of the energy production as well. - The petroleum supplies to this country have mainly been coming from the North Sea for a number of decades now, provided nominally by Norwegian and British companies. But the northernAtlantic production has already passed its peak, making changes necessary in order not to be totally depending upon oil from Russia and the middle east, which can be considered as a too adventurous project. - The result of next election can very well over-throw the ambition of oil independence, since the right-liberal-centre coalition aiming for office, doesn´t have this target on the agenda. - The automotive industry, not only the Swedish, has to acknowledge and accept the goal. So far nothing along this line has been proclaimed from the industry. In such a small export-depending country as Sweden, the automotive industry is very power-ful, and used to having its way. Jan Warnqvist + 46 554 201 89 +46 70 499 38 45 - Original Message - *From:* Lugano Wilson mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* biofuel@sustainablelists.org mailto:biofuel@sustainablelists.org *Sent:* Saturday, August 12, 2006 1:52 PM *Subject:* Re: [Biofuel] Sweden how they do it Yes, Sweden is well commited to renewabel energy as part of energy security and environmental considerations. it is projected that in 2010 about 51% of of its electricity will be produced from renewable sources. this is supported by existing huge hydropower sources and strong commitment to bioenergy. renewable electricity like bioenergy, wind, solar, etc. are currently growing in sharing the supply scheme due to existing legislation on certification scheme. further to this, the transport sector has been targetted for increased efficiency and utilization of renewable energy like ethanol and biodiesel through taxation that based on annual vehicle pollution (emitted CO2) and not the conventional taxation that based on either weight, size, utilization, etc. the whole of this development is guided by strong policies that are spearheading research, development and utilization. follow the following links for: 1: electricity for renewable sources http://ec.europa.eu/energy/res/publications/index_en.htm 2: green vehicles http://www.gronabilister.se/public/dokument.php?art=272 have a nice week end. Lugano */Mark` Cookson [EMAIL PROTECTED]/* wrote: Hellow every one I was listening to the radio this afternoon here int the UK and a programme come on called Costing the Earth. Its subject was how Sweden are changing away from fossil fuels. I found it very interesting as you may. Follow the link here then go down the left of the page to [Listen to the latest programme link] hey presto!!! http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/science/costingtheearth.shtml Good
Re: [Biofuel] These dam greenies are everywhere......
I sleep there when my girlfriend is mad at me. Michael Redler wrote: If you plan to have any osprey tenants in the future, it might require some work to keep it up to code. You will have to contact the inspector and apply for a certificate of occupancy - even if it's used as a guest house. Depending on the state, you might also need to install a flushing toilet. By the way, 9' might require a fire escape. I don't mean to be the bearer of bad news...just tryin' to help. - Redler */Mike Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED]/* wrote: Uh oh, I have a 9' tall foot abandonded Osprey nest I've been maintaning for several years now - I wonder if it'll get me in trouble? bob allen wrote: Howdy folks, if you read the analysis at Snopes, you'll discover the the Michigan authorities are not quite as stupid as seems, nor the land owner so innocent. I would be pi**ed off too if an adjacent land owner started messing with my land. The letter concerned an enforcement action directed to a tenant on property surrounding Spring Pond, which is located in Pierson Township, Montcalm County, Michigan. The tenant was observed by the downstream complainant, and has since admitted to the complainant, that he artificially built up, and maintained two abandoned beaver dams on the discharge end of the natural pond. Such an activity falls under the jurisdiction of Part 301, Inland Lakes and Streams, of the Natural Resources and Environmental Protection Act, 1194 PA 451, as amended. It is the Department's position that in the absence of any threat to public welfare, beaver dams should be left in their natural state, that being either actively maintained or abandoned by beaver. [snip] ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] What the bleep -was galloway
It's a date. I'll be wearing a white sport coat and a pink carnation. Wait, by *we* do mean I'm going out with you AND your mom? And who's gonna pay? Michael Redler wrote: You're cuisin' now Weaver! Keep Mom out of it or else we'll have to settle things after school, behind the gym. */Mike Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED]/* wrote: Dear Pinkler, I never GPL's it, so it's mine. besides, you're on MY half of the seat! MOM! -Weaver Mike Redler wrote: It doesn't matter Weaver! I'm sure it was invented so long ago that it's expired and in the public domain by now. So, there's nothing you can do about it! You're not the boss of me! Mike Weaver wrote: I invented it. So try not to piss me off. -Mike Big Head Weaver [snip] ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Don't Become a Scientist!
I'd skip medicine too. The school debt is staggering and they work you to death for not that much money. When you calculate the number of hours you work, the amount needed to pay of your loans it's not such a great living. My sister is a doctor and she's sure not getting rich, or even close. D. Mindock wrote: http://www.physics.wustl.edu/~katz/scientist.html http://www.physics.wustl.edu/%7Ekatz/scientist.html Don't Become a Scientist! Jonathan I. Katz Professor of Physics Washington University, St. Louis, Mo. [my last [EMAIL PROTECTED] Are you thinking of becoming a scientist? Do you want to uncover the mysteries of nature, perform experiments or carry out calculations to learn how the world works? Forget it! Science is fun and exciting. The thrill of discovery is unique. If you are smart, ambitious and hard working you should major in science as an undergraduate. But that is as far as you should take it. After graduation, you will have to deal with the real world. That means that you should not even consider going to graduate school in science. Do something else instead: medical school, law school, computers or engineering, or something else which appeals to you. Why am I (a tenured professor of physics) trying to discourage you from following a career path which was successful for me? Because times have changed (I received my Ph.D. in 1973, and tenure in 1976). American science no longer offers a reasonable career path. If you go to graduate school in science it is in the expectation of spending your working life doing scientific research, using your ingenuity and curiosity to solve important and interesting problems. You will almost certainly be disappointed, probably when it is too late to choose another career. *American universities train roughly twice as many Ph.D.s as there are jobs for them. When something, or someone, is a glut on the market, the price drops. In the case of Ph.D. scientists, the reduction in price takes the form of many years spent in ``holding pattern'' postdoctoral jobs. Permanent jobs don't pay much less than they used to, but instead of obtaining a real job two years after the Ph.D. (as was typical 25 years ago) most young scientists spend five, ten, or more years as postdocs. They have no prospect of permanent employment *and often must obtain a new postdoctoral position and move every two years. For many more details consult the Young Scientists' Network or read the account in the May, 2001 issue of the Washington Monthly. As examples, consider two of the leading candidates for a recent Assistant Professorship in my department. One was 37, ten years out of graduate school (he didn't get the job). The leading candidate, whom everyone thinks is brilliant, was 35, seven years out of graduate school. Only then was he offered his first permanent job (that's not tenure, just the possibility of it six years later, and a step off the treadmill of looking for a new job every two years). The latest example is a 39 year old candidate for another Assistant Professorship; he has published 35 papers. In contrast, a doctor typically enters private practice at 29, a lawyer at 25 and makes partner at 31, and a computer scientist with a Ph.D. has a very good job at 27 (computer science and engineering are the few fields in which industrial demand makes it sensible to get a Ph.D.). Anyone with the intelligence, ambition and willingness to work hard to succeed in science can also succeed in any of these other professions. Typical postdoctoral salaries begin at $27,000 annually in the biological sciences and about $35,000 in the physical sciences (graduate student stipends are less than half these figures). Can you support a family on that income? It suffices for a young couple in a small apartment, though I know of one physicist whose wife left him because she was tired of repeatedly moving with little prospect of settling down. When you are in your thirties you will need more: a house in a good school district and all the other necessities of ordinary middle class life. Science is a profession, not a religious vocation, and does not justify an oath of poverty or celibacy. Of course, you don't go into science to get rich. So you choose not to go to medical or law school, even though a doctor or lawyer typically earns two to three times as much as a scientist (one lucky enough to have a good senior-level job). I made that choice too. I became a scientist in order to have the freedom to work on problems which interest me. But you probably won't get that freedom. As a postdoc you will work on someone else's ideas, and may be treated as a technician rather than as an independent collaborator. Eventually, you will probably be squeezed out of science entirely. You can get a fine job as a computer programmer, but why not do
Re: [Biofuel] glycerine layer
Hello, I have 2 advise for you 1. build a reactor with cone-shaped bottom, and insulate it well, 2. Start draining the by product as soon as you practically can ( 99% of glicerin separates within 2 hors) You may still have problems with draining ( especially to start it flowing) a strong hair dryer can be very usefull to heat the outlet valve and hose barb. I also have similar problems to yours aspecially when the temp drops below 15 deg C. and I have to clean the bottom of the reactor wessel after every batch. When you make good and complete reaction, a bit of by product will not screw up the wash. Thanking of KOH Instead of NaOH can be a permanent solution, for the by product stays liquid. but it is more expensive. Read JTF website for details on use of KOH Kind regards, Andrew - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Friday, August 11, 2006 4:46 PM Subject: [Biofuel] glycerine layer I am about to advance to a 30 gallon reactor. All during my one and 15 liter educational phases, my glycerin layer has always resulted in a semi solid jelly but the fuel always washes beautifully in four washes to a crystal clear dark gold amber after drying. My current yield to 800 ml of fuel for every liter of WVO. If I am doing it right, the WVO titrates to 7.5. My concern is the semi solid glycerin layer. When I build my reactor, will I have to have a heater near this layer to be able to drain it, or should the layer be more liquid? ___Biofuel mailing listBiofuel@sustainablelists.orghttp://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.orgBiofuel at Journey to Forever:http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.htmlSearch the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages):http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Don't Become a Scientist!
O.K. so, we've covered scientist, doctor...I was laid off from my latest engineering job last year and said to Hell with that! My last few positions as a product design engineer were in title only. It's not unusual for a company to hire an engineer, not have the foggiest notion what to do withone, and end up having him/her become a documentation specialist, filing stuff all day and writing reports.I am the chairperson of a local section of ASME (but, not for long) and many that I've talked to, tell their children not to pursue engineering as a career choice.The bureau of labor statistics often lists manufacturing as the only category having a negative number."The new jobs are as follows: professional and business services, 27,000; education and health services, 41,000; waitresses and bartenders, 10,000. Manufacturing lost 14,000 jobs." From:The Death of US Engineering, by Paul Craig Roberts http://counterpunch.org/roberts06062006.htmlWhat's left? Hmmm... Ah yes. Lawyers!-RedlerMike Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd skip medicine too. The school debt is staggering and they work you to death for not that much money. When you calculate the number of hours you work, the amount needed to pay of your loans it's not such a great living. My sister is a doctor and she's sure not getting rich, or even close.D. Mindock wrote: http://www.physics.wustl.edu/~katz/scientist.htmlDon't Become a Scientist! Jonathan I. Katz Professor of Physics Washington University, St. Louis, Mo. [my last [EMAIL PROTECTED] Are you thinking of becoming a scientist? Do you want to uncover the mysteries of nature, perform experiments or carry out calculations to learn how the world works? Forget it! [snip]___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Don't Become a Scientist!
Nursing will be king as the baby boomers get infirm. Then tons of unemployment I suppose. Think of all the good deals on used cars though. ;) KirkMichael Redler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:O.K. so, we've covered scientist, doctor...I was laid off from my latest engineering job last year and said to Hell with that! My last few positions as a product design engineer were in title only. It's not unusual for a company to hire an engineer, not have the foggiest notion what to do withone, and end up having him/her become a documentation specialist, filing stuff all day and writing reports.I am the chairperson of a local section of ASME (but, not for long) and many that I've talked to, tell their children not to pursue engineering as a career choice.The bureau of labor statistics often lists manufacturing as the only category having a negative number."The new jobs are as follows: professional and business services, 27,000; education and health services, 41,000; waitresses and bartenders, 10,000. Manufacturing lost 14,000 jobs." From:The Death of US Engineering, by Paul Craig Roberts http://counterpunch.org/roberts06062006.htmlWhat's left? Hmmm... Ah yes. Lawyers!-RedlerMike Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd skip medicine too. The school debt is staggering and they work you to death for not that much money. When you calculate the number of hours you work, the amount needed to pay of your loans it's not such a great living. My sister is a doctor and she's sure not getting rich, or even close.D. Mindock wrote: http://www.physics.wustl.edu/~katz/scientist.htmlDon't Become a Scientist! Jonathan I. Katz Professor of Physics Washington University, St. Louis, Mo. [my last [EMAIL PROTECTED] Are you thinking of becoming a scientist? Do you want to uncover the mysteries of nature, perform experiments or carry out calculations to learn how the world works? Forget it! [snip]___Biofuel mailing listBiofuel@sustainablelists.orghttp://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.orgBiofuel at Journey to Forever:http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.htmlSearch the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages):http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min.___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Biofuel mailing list members
Each and every time I check my emails [EMAIL PROTECTED], it gives me a warm feeling inside. The fact that there are people in the world like yourselves, who are making a differance in the right direction. What ever continent what ever politics what ever colour or race, you should all be very proud of your selves [A big pat on your back!!]. At times I am sure we all doubt our selves, but with this list, dreams of the impossible can and have been over come. I too am on that road and with time I know I will get there. A big thank you too you all. Mark ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Biofuel mailing list members
Hi Mark...wonderful email...pat yourself on the back too Mike DuPree - Original Message - From: Mark` Cookson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Monday, August 14, 2006 11:11 AM Subject: [Biofuel] Biofuel mailing list members Each and every time I check my emails [EMAIL PROTECTED], it gives me a warm feeling inside. The fact that there are people in the world like yourselves, who are making a differance in the right direction. What ever continent what ever politics what ever colour or race, you should all be very proud of your selves [A big pat on your back!!]. At times I am sure we all doubt our selves, but with this list, dreams of the impossible can and have been over come. I too am on that road and with time I know I will get there. A big thank you too you all. Mark ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Don't Become a Scientist!
I also see some evidence of this in Australia. I work in a hospital, maintaining Medical eqpt. My Biomedical engineer (whose job is to make sure everything is kept within standards, perform risk analysis) is not even proficient at shuffling papers! My son is studying science. He will probably become a teacher. There is a huge shortage of science teachers. I really get worried when we see all our manufacturing going East, now our Design skills also. How long can the standard of living be propped up in countries like the US? regards Doug On Tuesday 15 August 2006 2:06, Kirk McLoren wrote: Nursing will be king as the baby boomers get infirm. Then tons of unemployment I suppose. Think of all the good deals on used cars though. ;) Kirk Michael Redler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: O.K. so, we've covered scientist, doctor... I was laid off from my latest engineering job last year and said to Hell with that! My last few positions as a product design engineer were in title only. It's not unusual for a company to hire an engineer, not have the foggiest notion what to do with one, and end up having him/her become a documentation specialist, filing stuff all day and writing reports. I am the chairperson of a local section of ASME (but, not for long) and many that I've talked to, tell their children not to pursue engineering as a career choice. The bureau of labor statistics often lists manufacturing as the only category having a negative number. The new jobs are as follows: professional and business services, 27,000; education and health services, 41,000; waitresses and bartenders, 10,000. Manufacturing lost 14,000 jobs. From: The Death of US Engineering, by Paul Craig Roberts http://counterpunch.org/roberts06062006.html What's left? Hmmm... Ah yes. Lawyers! -Redler Mike Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd skip medicine too. The school debt is staggering and they work you to death for not that much money. When you calculate the number of hours you work, the amount needed to pay of your loans it's not such a great living. My sister is a doctor and she's sure not getting rich, or even close. D. Mindock wrote: http://www.physics.wustl.edu/~katz/scientist.html Don't Become a Scientist! Jonathan I. Katz Professor of Physics Washington University, St. Louis, Mo. [my last [EMAIL PROTECTED] Are you thinking of becoming a scientist? Do you want to uncover the mysteries of nature, perform experiments or carry out calculations to learn how the world works? Forget it! [snip]___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ - Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Anyone ever buy
*Red Crown HIGH TEST LYE from * _http://www.boyercorporation.com/_. ? -Mike ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Deliver Your Own Version of An Inconvenient Truth
Deliver Your Own Version of An Inconvenient Truth In environews A couple months back, we heard Al Gore mention that he'd be training over 1,000 slideshow enthusiasts on how to give his Inconvenient Truth presentation, so they could spread the good word about the bad shape our atmosphere is in and get more people on board in the fight against global warming. They now have a website to support the project, so any TreeHugger readers who want to get up in the limelight and perfect your own version of Gore's slideshow should apply; if you're selected, there will be seven two-day training sessions between September 2006 and January 2007 in Nashville, Tennessee, where trainees will brush up on climate change science, learn some dynamic new presentation skills, and develop a new online learning community for ongoing activities. Sound good? Check out the website (if need be, use the url below) https://www.theclimateproject.org/Grassroots_Training_Program.html for more info, and fill out an application to be one of Al Gore's new disciples and climate change's next big hope. ::The Climate Project Training Program via ::Gristmill 1 Reference Link Keep New: Posted on: Mon, Aug 14 2006 3:37 PM Email This Clip/Blog This ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Motorcycles was Fuel Help
The prospect of running a biodiesel motorcycle is precisely why I joined the list. Are there folks here that have any input on the idea? Is it practical? I'm an avid motorcyclist but have always wanted to find a way to embrace riding yet have a smaller footprint environmentally. Also, I'm just learning about fuels in general. How comparable is biodiesel to home heating oil? Or is this a poor question because of the variety of biodiesel options available? New to the list and throughly enjoying myself. Andy Zeke Yewdall wrote: Are we so strapped for fuel that we have to siphon 20 year old stuff out of helicopters now??? I guess it does make more sense than throwing it away, so I'd go for it. Since the main problem with kerosene in diesel engines is lack of lubricity, I'd mix it with biodiesel instead of diesel -- offset the low lubricity stuff with high lubricity stuff. Also, the whole impetus behind the army developing diesel motorcycles is apparently so they don't have to bring gasoline along at all -- helicopters, tanks, dirt bikes, everything will run on the same jet fuel Z On 8/11/06, *Joe Street* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Paul; I can't say for sure but I have heard of the guys who work as ground crew at the Tortonto airport putting jet fuel in their diesel cars. Apparently fuel which is drained from wing tanks is not allowed to be put back in so they often have some 'waste'. Joe Paul S Cantrell wrote: Good Afternoon all, I have an interesting story for ya'll today. I work at a small military college. Being a military school, we have a tank, a personnel carrier, a rocket, several howitzers, an F-4 Phantom, an anchor and a Huey Cobra helicopter on the parade field. The helicopter is why I'm writing. It was donated by the national guard 20 years ago and the engine was removed. However, the FUEL was not removed. It smells like kerosene. It is colorless/clear and dry, since the fuel tanks were full and sealed the whole time. This discovery was made when we decided to move it to pour a concrete pad for it. A sample weighs exactly 800 grams per liter (digital scale is +/-20 grams), so it is too heavy to be JP4 (50% gasoline/50%kerosene + additives), too light for diesel and about right to be JP8 (100% kerosene + additives). I referenced this website for densities of fuel: http://www.simetric.co.uk/si_liquids.htm I have a 98 VW Jetta TDI that has half a tank of regualar #2 diesel in it at the moment. I know up north in the US the fuel companies mix diesel with kerosene up to 50/50 in the winter time. Also, as I understand it, the new ULSD is very similar to kerosene. Should I have any reservation mixing it up to 50/50 in my car? I don't really, I just wanted to share the story and hear from ya'll. No real answers at the TDIClub website. -- Thanks, PC He's the kind of a guy who lights up a room just by flicking a switch The genius of you Americans is that you never make clear-cut stupid moves, only complicated stupid moves which make us wonder at the possibility that there may be something to them which we are missing. - Gamal Abdel Nasser ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org mailto:Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org mailto:Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Exported mercury returns to haunt U.S.
CHICAGO TRIBUNE UPDATE Exported mercury returns to haunt U.S.Recycled toxin goes overseas, but ends up in atmosphereBy Michael HawthorneTribune staff reporterPublished August 8, 2006 Tons of toxic mercury from U.S. recycling programs are funneled each year to loosely regulated industries in developing countries, where much of the hazardous metal is released into the atmosphere.Scientists say some of that air pollution can drift back to this country and contaminate lakes and rivers, undercutting aggressive efforts to keep mercury out of the environment. Tainted seafoodThe mercury menace The federal government estimates that U.S. firms exported at least 276 tons of mercury last year. It moves overseas through a little-known network of purifiers and brokers that operates without government oversight and faces few questions about what happens to the silvery metal once it is sold.Environmental regulators acknowledge they know more about used motor oil and scrap tires than they do about the mercury trade, in part because it is considered a commodity and isn't subject to the same handling and tracking laws as hazardous waste.But as policymakers become more aware of the dangers of mercury exposure, particularly for young children and women of childbearing age, they are focusing more attention on curbing sources of mercury pollution. Last month, U.S. Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) introduced legislation that would bar American mercury exports."This is a problem that is impacted by things happening all over the world," Obama said in a recent interview. "But we can make an enormous difference."Combined with a European Union proposal to block mercury exports, the U.S. effort could shrink global supplies of the metal and drive up the cost enough to encourage alternatives, Obama said.The number of U.S. companies that use mercury in industrial processes or products is declining, a trend driven by concerns that once the metal gets into the atmosphere it can pose serious threats to public health.Mercury pollution that falls into oceans, lakes and rivers is converted into a neurotoxin that becomes more dangerous as it moves up the food chain from fish to people. The federal government estimated last year that 410,000 babies are born each year at risk for mercury poisoning because of high levels in their mothers' bodies.Illinois and other states have encouraged the move away from mercury with laws phasing it out in thermometers, school laboratories and industrial scrap. States also are taking steps to discourage mercury-laden garbage from being disposed of in landfills.But there still is robust demand for mercury in developing countries, where it is used by small-scale gold-mining operations, thermometer manufacturers and chemical plants.The demand is great enough that most mercury collected through U.S. recycling programs is sold instead of stored away. The U.S. Geological Survey estimates that most of the 276 tons exported by American companies went to Brazil, Mexico, Peru and Vietnam.Total exports likely are much higher because U.S. metal mines aren't required to report what happens to mercury dug out of the ground in the same places as gold, silver, copper and lead, said William Brooks, who follows the mercury trade for the Geological Survey.The world market soon will be flooded with even more mercury. Two American chemical plants that use large amounts of mercury to create chlorine are shutting down. Obama is pushing a second bill that would require six other chlorine plants to close or switch to mercury-free technology by 2012.Those plants turn salt, or sodium chloride, into chlorine gas and caustic soda by pumping a briny solution through electrified vats of mercury. The industry had more than 2,600 tons of mercury on hand at the end of 2005, according to the Chlorine Institute, a trade group.Environmental groups and a coalition of state officials are urging the federal government to store the metal safely instead of allowing it to be sold to other countries. The government already stores about 4,400 tons that had been stockpiled by the Defense Department.The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency has agreed only to study whether the nation's commodity-grade mercury should be taken off the market."Outside of a handful of people, our role in this international trade has been completely off the radar screen for people in Washington," said Linda Greer, director of the environment and health program for the Natural Resources Defense Council. "We should be part of the solution, not part of the problem."In recent years the federal government's policies have focused largely on a Bush administration proposal to limit mercury emissions from coal-fired power plants, the world's largest manmade source of the metal. Coal plants are responsible for about half of the 3,000 tons of mercury churned into the atmosphere each year, according to the United Nations
[Biofuel] Canada gets low marks on environment - Montreal Gazette - 2006.08.14
http://www.canada.com/topics/news/national/story.html?id=27cb71ea-f6ea-4 42b-b65a-2edee2064fffk=50456 Mike Blanchfield CanWest News Service; Ottawa Citizen Monday, August 14, 2006 OTTAWA -- Canada is ranked as one of the least environmentally friendly countries, placing 17th in a new survey of 21 of the world's richest nations. The poor showing on the environmental front left Canada in the middle of the pack overall in the survey, released Sunday by the Washington-based Center for Global Development, that attempts to rate how the policies of rich countries help improve the lives of the world's poorest people, the Earth's 2.7 billion inhabitants that live on less than $2 a day. Overall, Canada ranked 10th out of 21 countries surveyed in the Commitment to Development Index compiled by the centre in conjunction with Foreign Policy magazine. The complicated index cross-references data by seven categories, including foreign aid, trade, investment abroad, security and technology, in addition to the environment. In the investment category, Canada got high marks for policies that allow companies to invest in developing countries, particularly in South Asia, where the government has provided incentives for many Canadian joint ventures in manufacturing, said David Roodman, the architect of the index. But Canada's high levels of greenhouse gas emissions and its inability to implement policies to reduce them helped drag down its overall ranking. The survey data also appears to lend credence to claims made by Prime Minister Stephen Harper that inaction by the former Liberal governments has made it impossible to live up to its climate change commitments under the Kyoto protocol, a treaty that Canada has ratified. Since taking power in February, Harper has enraged environmentalists by saying that Canada cannot meet its Kyoto commitments, and has opened the door to participation in other climate change protocols, as he has touted a new made-in-Canada approach. This new government is probably being realistic because past governments haven't done much, Roodman said in an interview from Washington. But he added: I do think the Kyoto protocol has to be taken seriously because it was an internationally agreed treaty. Maybe it's not perfect, but it's pretty good. If you junk that, then you're sending a pretty strong signal to poorer countries that they shouldn't worry about this either. One the indicators that hampered Canada's poor standing was the fact that it produces 23.4 tonnes of carbon dioxide equivalent per person per year. Only the United States, at 24.5 tonnes, and Australia, at 28.5 tonnes, rated lower than Canada. The average among the 21 countries surveyed was 14 tonnes, said Roodman. Overall, Canada ranked 17th among the 21 countries on the environmental-indicator list, ahead of Japan, Australia, Spain and the United States. In terms of foreign aid, Canada also got low marks because it has a high percentage of tied aid, a practice that forces aid agencies to buy Canadian products especially food direct from Canada rather than purchasing cheaper local alternatives. But Roodman said he is optimistic that Canada has already made strides that could improve its ranking in future studies. That is because the current index is based on data to the end of 2004. The Liberal government in 2005 drastically cut the level of tied aid on food to poor countries when it raised the ceiling on how much aid agencies can buy from local suppliers to 50 per cent from 10 per cent. I think that's admirable, said Roodman. It will reduce the tying penalty. Overall, the Netherlands, Denmark, Sweden and Norway topped the list in that order, based mainly on the fact they significantly outspend other western nations on foreign aid. Japan ranked last. The Netherlands has topped the index on the two previous occasions it has been issued, in 2003 and 2004. Canada's performance has fluctuated, placing 13th and sixth respectively those two years. Ottawa Citizen EDS: Embargoed to 1600 ET Sunday. (c) CanWest News Service 2006 ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Growing wheat for ethanol - Regina Leader-Post - 2006.08.14
http://www.canada.com/reginaleaderpost/news/business_agriculture/story.h tml?id=232798fa-36a6-4b76-8f32-e24adb2de6b9 Michelle MacAfee Canadian Press Monday, August 14, 2006 WINNIPEG -- Husky Energy Inc. is just weeks away from opening its second ethanol production plant, a major step in the Calgary-based company's plan to become Western Canada's largest producer of the biofuel. But Husky's determination to carve out a bigger piece of the ethanol market is also making it increasingly reliant on the region's grain farmers to grow the feed wheat needed for production. Some farmers and agriculture groups say they're excited about the new business opportunity, but warn it will take time and government help to see real rewards. Husky estimates it will need 700,000 tonnes of feed wheat a year by the time its new plant in Lloydminster, Sask., starts processing ethanol later this month or in September and its expanded facility in Minnedosa, Man., is in production by mid-2007. Together, the plants will produce about 260 million litres of ethanol a year. For now, the wheat will come from farmers whose crops of spring or winter wheat fail to meet the higher standards for milling or export, which occurs if the growing season is too dry, too wet or infested by bugs. But the Canadian Grain Commission is currently consulting with farmers about how to implement a new wheat class in August 2008 that could be grown specifically for the ethanol industry. The Canadian Wheat Board supports the changes, saying they would give Western Canadian farmers more options and a lower-cost crop. The feed wheat now is basically milling wheat that doesn't meet very good grade, said spokeswoman Maureen Fitzhenry. This way you'd start out with the intention of growing feed wheat for ethanol. Last spring, Prime Minister Stephen Harper reiterated his election campaign promise to diversify farming by requiring five-per-cent renewable fuel content -- such as ethanol or biodiesel -- by 2010. Manitoba has mandated the use of 10-per-cent ethanol blend in 85 per cent of all gasoline sold in the province once Husky's Minnedosa plant is up and running. In Ontario, gasoline must contain five-per-cent ethanol by January 2007. Ethanol is a high-octane alcohol normally made from wheat or corn. It can reduce emissions by up to 25 per cent, depending on the vehicle. Owen McAuley, who farms 1,800 hectares of grain in McAuley, Man., has a keen interest in the ethanol industry. In recent years, McAuley has often sold his feed wheat to Husky's Minnedosa plant, but only after a disappointing crop year has given him few other options. He said that after years of struggling to grow high-quality wheat for export markets, he and other farmers would love the chance to move away from milling wheat and at the same time increase their yield. But he said the federal government will need to step in soon and offer economic incentives to farmers, or Canadian farmers will lose out to their American counterparts who are receiving subsidies. If Canada can't compete, maybe we'll be importing all of our ethanol from the U.S., said McAuley. But that doesn't make any sense when we have the land base and we have the opportunity to create the jobs in our local communities. He's anxious to learn more about a July announcement by federal Agriculture Minister Chuck Strahl that the government will spend $11 million to help farmers and rural communities benefit from the production of biofuels. But Brian Hayward, the chief executive of Agricore United, said that while there is a place for Canada to participate in alternative energy, it's not in the country's best interest to pin all its future hopes on biofuel. In a speech earlier this year to the Western Canadian Wheat Growers Association, Hayward said farmers might not be able to make ethanol as cheaply as other countries can from sugar or palm oil. And he said the United States is growing so much more corn for ethanol at the expense of wheat that it may actually increase the demand for high-quality Canadian wheat. Husky spokesman Dennis Floate said the company doesn't anticipate any difficulty getting a steady supply of feed wheat from area farmers, especially in Minnedosa, where the current, small plant has been in operation for about 20 years. He said the company has contracts with some producers and has also been buying on the market. With Lloydminster that's a new thing for them (farmers) so we've been working with them, said Floate. Some of them were holding back until they saw what we were building, but now we see a lot of people coming forward and anxious to sell product to us. (c) The Leader-Post (Regina) 2006 ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz
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[Biofuel] was... Canada gets low marks on environment - Montreal Gazette - 2006.08.14
You also have to consider as well that Harper is hardly an environmentalist. He is too busy, wanting to please Bush. Rhona Ambrose (the Canadian Conservative Environment Minister) has done everything that she can to gut Kyoto provisions. With gas at the price that it is, you can bet that the conservatives will do everything that they can to appear that they are ' comitted to a made in Canada plan' It's all lies. Alberta tar sands hold a tremendous amount of oil. The only problem is it takes a tremendous amount of fossil fuel energy to liberate the oi,l so backing off on greenhouse gas emissions is going to be very difficult. They are just preparing the public for a harsher made in Canada conservative environment policy that can t even hope to meet Kyoto comittments. ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Biofuel] Canada gets low marks on environment - Montreal Gazette - 2006.08.14 Sent: 15 Aug '06 00:59 http://www.canada.com/topics/news/national/story.html?id=27cb71ea-f6ea-4 42b-b65a-2edee2064fffk=50456 Mike Blanchfield CanWest News Service; Ottawa Citizen Monday, August 14, 2006 OTTAWA -- Canada is ranked as one of the least environmentally friendly countries, placing 17th in a new survey of 21 of the world's richest nations. The poor showing on the environmental front left Canada in the middle of the pack overall in the survey, released Sunday by the Washington-based Center for Global Development, that attempts to rate how the policies of rich countries help improve the lives of the world's poorest people, the Earth's 2.7 billion inhabitants that live on less than $2 a day. Overall, Canada ranked 10th out of 21 countries surveyed in the Commitment to Development Index compiled by the centre in conjunction with Foreign Policy magazine. The complicated index cross-references data by seven categories, including foreign aid, trade, investment abroad, security and technology, in addition to the environment. In the investment category, Canada got high marks for policies that allow companies to invest in developing countries, particularly in South Asia, where the government has provided incentives for many Canadian joint ventures in manufacturing, said David Roodman, the architect of the index. But Canada's high levels of greenhouse gas emissions and its inability to implement policies to reduce them helped drag down its overall ranking. The survey data also appears to lend credence to claims made by Prime Minister Stephen Harper that inaction by the former Liberal governments has made it impossible to live up to its climate change commitments under the Kyoto protocol, a treaty that Canada has ratified. Since taking power in February, Harper has enraged environmentalists by saying that Canada cannot meet its Kyoto commitments, and has opened the door to participation in other climate change protocols, as he has touted a new made-in-Canada approach. This new government is probably being realistic because past governments haven't done much, Roodman said in an interview from Washington. But he added: I do think the Kyoto protocol has to be taken seriously because it was an internationally agreed treaty. Maybe it's not perfect, but it's pretty good. If you junk that, then you're sending a pretty strong signal to poorer countries that they shouldn't worry about this either. One the indicators that hampered Canada's poor standing was the fact that it produces 23.4 tonnes of carbon dioxide equivalent per person per year. Only the United States, at 24.5 tonnes, and Australia, at 28.5 tonnes, rated lower than Canada. The average among the 21 countries surveyed was 14 tonnes, said Roodman. Overall, Canada ranked 17th among the 21 countries on the environmental-indicator list, ahead of Japan, Australia, Spain and the United States. In terms of foreign aid, Canada also got low marks because it has a high percentage of tied aid, a practice that forces aid agencies to buy Canadian products especially food direct from Canada rather than purchasing cheaper local alternatives. But Roodman said he is optimistic that Canada has already made strides that could improve its ranking in future studies. That is because the current index is based on data to the end of 2004. The Liberal government in 2005 drastically cut the level of tied aid on food to poor countries when it raised the ceiling on how much aid agencies can buy from local suppliers to 50 per cent from 10 per cent. I think that's admirable, said Roodman. It will reduce the tying penalty. Overall, the Netherlands, Denmark, Sweden and Norway topped the list in that order, based mainly on the fact they significantly outspend other western nations on foreign aid. Japan ranked last. The Netherlands has topped the index on
