Re: [Biofuel] NZ Coroners Report on Complementary Medicines
Hi Marylynn, Thanks for this info on NZ! Yeah, wow. I too am amazed that this study was done. It seems that common sense and spine abounds in NZ. God bless Wallace Bain! The same problems Down Under will be here in the US fairly soon. Big Pharma, along with the AMA and FDA is, imo, trying to snuff out alt medicine before it largely replaces the drugs, surgery, radiation, and chemo used by the so-called health care industry. They can do all the science they want, but the fact is that allopathic medicine is a failed model except for emergency care like heart attacks, acute disease, etc. For chronic problems, alt medicine is the way to go, where the whole person (mind, body, emotional state) is examined and treated. The same is true here wrt to herbs, supplements, essential oils, vitamins. Most of the deaths attributable to these have been because of gross misuse. When a young pro baseball player died a couple years ago because of his total misuse of ephedra the corporate friendly media was all over that story and really pounded it home. They failed to mention that he was trying to lose a lot of weight (winter fat) in a hurry. He took a triple dose of ephedra plus was wearing extra clothes, practicing baseball in the hot sun of Florida. Likely he was dehydrated too. When a few folks died after taking L-tryptophan, maybe six years ago, the FDA took advantage of that to pull it off the market, even though L-tryptophan is a common amino acid found in a number of foods and completely harmless. The manufacturer (a Japanese company) was found later to have released a contaminated product which caused the deaths. Nontheless, L-tryptophan, an essential amino acid, was kept off the market and is still unavailable. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tryptophan Every year about 33 people die from contaminated soft cheese but it has never been pulled, as far as I know. Several baseball players are suspected of using performance enhancing steroids. So now, DHEA, a very useful supplement that enhances lean muscle mass, has anti-aging properties, and improves vitality, is the subject of legislation that will categorize it as an anabolic steroid, making it non-available to millions of men and women who use it routinely. This is being done in secret with no public discourse. Of course, the real granddaddy of all is the Codex Alimentarius whose aim is to clear the shelves of health food stores of all the stuff we're used to taking to help us maintain optimal health. Use any search engine to find more info on this. Likely the Codex is what's going on in Oz and now, NZ. Here in the states there is not a word about it on the media, so most have no clue. Dr Mathias Rath is leading the movement in Europe to stop the Codex. Here's his list of cancer studies, many of which are natural: http://www.drrathresearch.org/health_news/natural_health_cancer.html Big Pharma hates this guy are doing all they can to discredit him. Since they have been unsuccessful, you know he is the real deal. Just like Dr Burzynski in Texas. Peace and light, D. Mindock - Original Message - From: Marylynn Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2006 12:41 PM Subject: [Biofuel] NZ Coroners Report on Complementary Medicines Interesting .. I'm amazed that this study was done .. Mary Lynn Schmidt Despite extensive research, coroner Dr Wallace Bain found no deaths have occurred in New Zealand due to natural medicines such as vitamins, minerals and herbal products. Dear Health Freedom Advocate, Dr Wallace Bain, Acting Chair of the Coroners' Council, has just released this report into deaths caused by natural health medicines in New Zealand. He highlights the information in light of the push by the New Zealand government for greater control over natural medicines by way of legislation to create the Australia New Zealand Therapeutics Products Authority (ANZTPA). Natural medicines - the safest way to avoid death A report just released by the Acting Chair of the Coroner's Council has shown natural medicines have the lowest fatality rate of all medical treatments in New Zealand. Despite extensive research, coroner Dr Wallace Bain found no deaths have occurred in New Zealand due to natural medicines such as vitamins, minerals and herbal products. Dr Bain, who is also a trained pharmacist and lawyer, undertook the study in light of growing opposition to new legislation that will see New Zealand's natural health industry come under Australian laws. The safety of natural products is often sited as a reason for the need for such a move. The Labour government plans that the Australia New Zealand Therapeutic Products Authority (ANZTPA) will soon replace the current Medsafe agency as part of a `trans-Tasman harmonisation' push. Opponents fear this move will decimate New Zealand's natural health industry as has already occurred in Australia. At present lack of
[Biofuel] China is going for unions
Remember when we were told by the Compassionate Conservatives that we didn't need "Fair Trade" if we had "Free Trade"? That countries like China would not need for us to build in anti-sweatshop measures into trade agreements? Because free trade would lead them into following our lead in the fair treatment of workers?Um, looks like somebody got it backwards ===*(10-13) 04:00 PDT Shanghai* -- China is planning to adopt a new law that seeks to crack down on sweatshops and protect workers' rights by giving labor unions real power for the first time since Beijing introduced market forces in the late 1970s.The move, which underscores the government's growing concern about the widening income gap and threats of social unrest, is setting off a battle with American and other foreign corporations that have lobbied against it by hinting that they may build fewer factories in China.More at: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=%2Fc%2Fa%2F2006%2F10%2F13%2FMNGT8LOPSG1.DTLfeed=rss.news ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Methane Snowmobile
Walking around at the snowmobile expo in Jyväskylä, Finland yesterday, a Lynx Yeti 1300 caught my eye. Great work sled, yes, but what I really was looking at were the 2 scuba tank type bottles peeking out from under the seat. This wasn't NOS, I was sure. Later on I had the privilidge to talk to Gasum's Arto Riikonen, the man with answers to my questions. What I was looking at, as it happened, was a methane powered sled! This was apparently one of four prototypes in Finland. The tanks capable of storing 5 kg of methane at 200 bar, the equivalent of 7.6 liters of gasoline, the sled had a range of 50-60km on gas. Being bi-fuel equipped, the full stock range on gasoline was also available on demand, the only drawback being the extra 35 kg brought on by the tanks. It doesn't sound like much, but it is when you're stuck by yourself in deep powder. Targeted at ski resorts and grooming trails for the pickiest of cross country skiers, this wasn't a practical snowmobile for personal use, but one that was clean burning and wouldn't cause problems in crowds with it's emissions. Having been around traditional carburated 2-stroke sleds my whole life, I can hardly understand anyone complaining about the injected 4-stroke V-2 engine on the Yeti on gasoline, even if it has no catalytic converter, but a great idea never the less. Although intended for natural gas, I can imagine most of y'all thinking, as was I, can anyone say biogas? The technical stuff : high pressure gas was routed to an engine coolant heated pressure regulator, pressure dropped to 2.5 bar for the injectors, controlled by the ECU. I didn't get an answer to wether it uses the stock ECU or if there's another black box for use with methane, but I'll follow up on it. The principle is the same as EFI, the injectors are different to be suitable for gas, but being a stoichiometric burn engine on methane, the lambda sensor was common and its use identical, so I see no problems with just routing the injector signal to whichever fuel is in use, just adjust the injector or pressure. The engine is started and warmed up on gasoline to provide warm coolant for vaporization, which could otherwise be problematic in subzero temperatures (when else do you operate snowmobiles?), unless it's preheated by grid power like cars in wintertime. In general about methane use, apparently ignition can be a problem, since the catalytic converter can only take so much misfire in operation and methane is harder to light. This requires higher voltage ignition which takes its toll on spark plugs, which either need to be changed often or switched to iridium spark plugs. Not the NGK's that cost 5-10 times as much, but apparently about 50 times as much. This isn't a problem with non-catalyzed exhaust, like the snowmobile. Methane does apparently require a catalytic converter to meet the same emission requirements as modern gasoline engines, it's still not THAT clean, so for new cars, it's a must. Cylinder head temperatures also rise due to lost burning efficiency, which lead to faster warm up time and a greater chance of overheat in hot weather. Although generally not a problem in snowmobiles, natural gas busses take this into consideration with larger radiators. It is possible to raise compression to take advantage of methane's higher octane rating, but this eliminates the possibility for use with gasoline. He mentioned that the methane needs to be at least 95% pure for compression to 200+ bar, which wouldn't be a problem for a biogas home brewer bottling it at lower pressure, but complicates its commercial use. In snowmobile use high pressure is a must because of limited storage space and way high fuel consumption. The absence of CNG fuel stations out in the boonies up north really does turn one back to liquid fuels in personal use. I'm planning on bugging this guy some more via e-mail, and he offered to send some more material. www.gasum.com is the company behind the prototype http://www.brp.com/en/Products/Lynx/Showroom/Yetiv1300.htm the sled it was made from ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Closed-Mindedness (Was Hypnosis as Anesthesia WasTestimonials as Evidence)
Health care today is industrialized medicine, driven by profit focused on treating the symptom rather preventing the disease. It is up to the individual to apply skepticism to the claims of this industry to protect both health pocketbook. We must take full responsibility for our health if we wish to be truly healthy; we cannot trust government or industry to do it for us. The best way to do this is to rely on both the most effective cheapest healthcare known to Man---prevention, along with the judicious use of only those treatments medicines whose efficacy undesired effects is backed by sufficient evidence. Neither conventional nor alternative medicine should be given a free ride, and while much of conventional medicine cannot be trusted, neither can most of the alternative. The safety of any treatment is completely depended upon proportional to the evidence we have regarding it. Until an alternative treatment is backed by sufficient evidence, and by more than testimonial evidence or hearsay, its use is dangerous to some degree. Education skepticism are both critical to good health in today's information-glutted profit-driven world. We can only act to protect ourselves by the quality of the knowledge we possess, and while we gain our knowledge through education, we determine its quality through skepticism. Mike - Original Message From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2006 7:58:29 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Closed-Mindedness (Was Hypnosis as Anesthesia WasTestimonials as Evidence) The main edifice of conventional allopathic (cure-the-symptom) so-called Western medicine, ie industrialised medicine, is all the hospitals. Occupying very many of those hospital beds are patients suffering from iatrogenic illnesses, that is sickness caused by medical treatment (225,000 deaths per year in the US from iatrogenic causes - JAMA. 2000 Jul 26;284(4):483-5). Nonetheless a fairly august medical practitioner once got angry with my questions and shouted: Of COURSE we're more healthy now, we've got so many more hospital beds! LOL! At another time, at a meeting of the steering committee of a primary health care group working on development projects in 3rd World countries, I mentioned that there's more to health than just the absence of disease. There was a polite pause, one of the doctors said, Of course there is, and the discussion continued as if I hadn't said anything. The Western doctor who shouted at me didn't know what I was talking about when I told him that. What's the difference? The glaring difference is that there's no market in 3rd World people who earn less than $2 a day, it's just not worth all the spin and corruption. There's no money in health anyway, maintaining disease is much more profitable, whether you're Big Pharma or a GP. Twenty-five years ago after I first started working with organic growing, a young doctor who was working with me got the idea that eating properly grown food might have something to do with it. He was working in a fishing community, quite poor people, and got very enthusiastic about the success he was having with this approach (nothing new - see, eg, The Medical Testament http://journeytoforever.org/farm_library.html#medtest). But later he complained that healthy patients didn't visit the doctor very often. Eventually he moved back to the city and became a surgeon. Every health education council I've talked to has stressed that health maintenance is primarily the patient's responsibility. But the patients are seduced by the quick cure that makes the symptom go away, and who needs more responsibility anyway? That's what doctors are for. Especially in the industrialised countries, millions of people now suffer from systemic candida albicans yeast infections, and not many of them can get effective medical treatment for it. They're quite likely to be referred to a psychiatrist instead because when they report the large variety of symptoms candida produces it's assumed to be psychosomatic. Most of the medical profession is in denial about candida because it's brought on by overuse of antibiotics and steroids. So a lot of people just die, with whatever symptom did it on the death certificate. Again to name just one, a study published in the BMJ a while back reported that back pain was the fastest-growing and one of the biggest medical problems in Britain at the time, and that conventional medicine had a very poor track record in treating it. The authors reported that several alternative therapies achieved much better results. They called for the alternative treatments to be made available via Britain's National Health scheme. That proposal didn't get very far. Some time before that the US DoA reported finding a potent anti-cancer drug in ordinary cabbages. But the report stated that the drug was unlikely to become available as it
Re: [Biofuel] Closed-Mindedness (Was Hypnosis as AnesthesiaWasTestimonials as Evidence)
I don't see how skepticism can determine quality. I do agree that claims need to be backed up with sound studies. There has been a lot of studies done wrt to herbs, essential oils, and vitamins. If you examine the track record between drugs and alt remedies you will see that drugs are largely an empty promise, regardless of the studies done prior to their release by the FDA. The FDA is supported by Big Pharma so it is hard to imagine how they can ever be unbiased. And then there's the well known revolving door between the FDA and drug companies. About 200,000 people die each year from drugs that have supposedly been found to be safe. Big Pharma has at anytime thousands of lawsuits to contend with. See: http://www.newstarget.com/019497.html The main idea is that most drugs are dangerous to human health, regardless of the studies saying otherwise. Follow the money. I equate prescription drugs to soda. Both are very heavily promoted, billions of dollars per year, and both are detrimental to health. That said, there are some good drugs, like nootropics, for example. L-Deprenyl, hydergine, piracetum, etc., are actually helpful. Peace, D. Mindock - Original Message - From: Michael Friebel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2006 1:42 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Closed-Mindedness (Was Hypnosis as AnesthesiaWasTestimonials as Evidence) Health care today is industrialized medicine, driven by profit focused on treating the symptom rather preventing the disease. It is up to the individual to apply skepticism to the claims of this industry to protect both health pocketbook. We must take full responsibility for our health if we wish to be truly healthy; we cannot trust government or industry to do it for us. The best way to do this is to rely on both the most effective cheapest healthcare known to Man---prevention, along with the judicious use of only those treatments medicines whose efficacy undesired effects is backed by sufficient evidence. Neither conventional nor alternative medicine should be given a free ride, and while much of conventional medicine cannot be trusted, neither can most of the alternative. The safety of any treatment is completely depended upon proportional to the evidence we have regarding it. Until an alternative treatment is backed by sufficient evidence, and by more! than testimonial evidence or hearsay, its use is dangerous to some degree. Education skepticism are both critical to good health in today's information-glutted profit-driven world. We can only act to protect ourselves by the quality of the knowledge we possess, and while we gain our knowledge through education, we determine its quality through skepticism. Mike - Original Message From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2006 7:58:29 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Closed-Mindedness (Was Hypnosis as Anesthesia WasTestimonials as Evidence) The main edifice of conventional allopathic (cure-the-symptom) so-called Western medicine, ie industrialised medicine, is all the hospitals. Occupying very many of those hospital beds are patients suffering from iatrogenic illnesses, that is sickness caused by medical treatment (225,000 deaths per year in the US from iatrogenic causes - JAMA. 2000 Jul 26;284(4):483-5). Nonetheless a fairly august medical practitioner once got angry with my questions and shouted: Of COURSE we're more healthy now, we've got so many more hospital beds! LOL! At another time, at a meeting of the steering committee of a primary health care group working on development projects in 3rd World countries, I mentioned that there's more to health than just the absence of disease. There was a polite pause, one of the doctors said, Of course there is, and the discussion continued as if I hadn't said anything. The Western doctor who shouted at me didn't know what I was talking about when I told him that. What's the difference? The glaring difference is that there's no market in 3rd World people who earn less than $2 a day, it's just not worth all the spin and corruption. There's no money in health anyway, maintaining disease is much more profitable, whether you're Big Pharma or a GP. Twenty-five years ago after I first started working with organic growing, a young doctor who was working with me got the idea that eating properly grown food might have something to do with it. He was working in a fishing community, quite poor people, and got very enthusiastic about the success he was having with this approach (nothing new - see, eg, The Medical Testament http://journeytoforever.org/farm_library.html#medtest). But later he complained that healthy patients didn't visit the doctor very often. Eventually he moved back to the city and became a surgeon. Every health education council I've talked to has stressed
Re: [Biofuel] Closed-Mindedness (Was Hypnosis as Anesthesia WasTestimonials as Evidence)
Hello Mike Health care today is industrialized medicine, driven by profit focused on treating the symptom rather preventing the disease. It is up to the individual to apply skepticism to the claims of this industry to protect both health pocketbook. We must take full responsibility for our health if we wish to be truly healthy; we cannot trust government or industry to do it for us. The best way to do this is to rely on both the most effective cheapest healthcare known to Man---prevention, along with the judicious use of only those treatments medicines whose efficacy undesired effects is backed by sufficient evidence. Neither conventional nor alternative medicine should be given a free ride, and while much of conventional medicine cannot be trusted, neither can most of the alternative. I agree with you up to now, but a lot of people might argue that your much and most are the wrong way round. Actually none of it is to be trusted, in all cases you have to make your own judgment based on the best information you can gather. (And peer-reviewed journals isn't necessarily it, especially not these days.) The safety of any treatment is completely depended upon proportional to the evidence we have regarding it. Until an alternative treatment is backed by sufficient evidence, and by more than testimonial evidence or hearsay, its use is dangerous to some degree. Again, you could have left out the alternative, it's superfluous, it cuts both ways. Much also depends on what you regard as evidence. From your previous posts I think you may have a little too much reverence for the Western scientific method for your own good. Would you agree with Bob's definition: efficacy proven via reproducible double blind trials, and supported by statistically significant epidemiology? That's something of a keyhole view, IMHO, with all due respect. I've done quite a lot of work with Chinese traditional medicine, both as an investigator and a few times as a patient, and also to a lesser extent with Indian and African traditional medicine, and applying such narrow, culturally-biased criteria of evidence to these disciplines (yes indeed) will definitely mean losing quite a few babies along with the bathwater. There are other ways of looking at it which are just as valid, and their application to the healing arts is established beyond serious doubt. Education skepticism are both critical to good health in today's information-glutted profit-driven world. Add: spin and disinformation-ridden, since the spinmeisters are not much fazed by education and scepticism. We can only act to protect ourselves by the quality of the knowledge we possess, and while we gain our knowledge through education, As with health, so with knowledge: to rephrase what you said, we also have to take full responsibility for our education if we wish to be truly knowledgeable. But here we are in the thick of the brave new Information Age and nary a school to be found that teaches even the basic skills of handling and interpreting information, what a surprise (not!). Most people don't even realise such skills exist, and many just naturally assume they already have all the skills required and are themselves immune to disinformation (they're among the opinion industry's greatest successes). we determine its quality through skepticism. Mike Or anyway we try to. Best Keith - Original Message From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2006 7:58:29 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Closed-Mindedness (Was Hypnosis as Anesthesia WasTestimonials as Evidence) The main edifice of conventional allopathic (cure-the-symptom) so-called Western medicine, ie industrialised medicine, is all the hospitals. Occupying very many of those hospital beds are patients suffering from iatrogenic illnesses, that is sickness caused by medical treatment (225,000 deaths per year in the US from iatrogenic causes - JAMA. 2000 Jul 26;284(4):483-5). Nonetheless a fairly august medical practitioner once got angry with my questions and shouted: Of COURSE we're more healthy now, we've got so many more hospital beds! LOL! At another time, at a meeting of the steering committee of a primary health care group working on development projects in 3rd World countries, I mentioned that there's more to health than just the absence of disease. There was a polite pause, one of the doctors said, Of course there is, and the discussion continued as if I hadn't said anything. The Western doctor who shouted at me didn't know what I was talking about when I told him that. What's the difference? The glaring difference is that there's no market in 3rd World people who earn less than $2 a day, it's just not worth all the spin and corruption. There's no money in health anyway, maintaining disease is much more profitable, whether you're Big Pharma or a GP. Twenty-five years ago after I first
Re: [Biofuel] Closed-Mindedness (Was Hypnosis asAnesthesiaWasTestimonials as Evidence)
FYI .. drugs that are found to be unsafe and are pulled are then frequently re-packaged and used by Veterinarins to treat our animals. .. Tamiflu has now being used in some Vet Clinics. Posts from a couple of my animal related lists have indicated that Tamiflu isn't successful there either. Mary Lynn Rev. Mary Lynn Schmidt, Ordained Minister ONE SPIRIT ONE HEART TTouch . Reiki . Pet Loss Grief Counseling . Animal Behavior Modification . Shamanic Spiritual Travel . Behavior Problems . Psionic Energy Practitioner . Radionics . Herbs . Dowsing . Nutrition . Homeopathy . Polarity . The Animal Connection Healing Modalities http://members.tripod.com/~MLSchmidt/ http://allcreatureconnections.org From: D. Mindock [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Closed-Mindedness (Was Hypnosis asAnesthesiaWasTestimonials as Evidence) Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 08:48:44 -0500 I don't see how skepticism can determine quality. I do agree that claims need to be backed up with sound studies. There has been a lot of studies done wrt to herbs, essential oils, and vitamins. If you examine the track record between drugs and alt remedies you will see that drugs are largely an empty promise, regardless of the studies done prior to their release by the FDA. The FDA is supported by Big Pharma so it is hard to imagine how they can ever be unbiased. And then there's the well known revolving door between the FDA and drug companies. About 200,000 people die each year from drugs that have supposedly been found to be safe. Big Pharma has at anytime thousands of lawsuits to contend with. See: http://www.newstarget.com/019497.html The main idea is that most drugs are dangerous to human health, regardless of the studies saying otherwise. Follow the money. I equate prescription drugs to soda. Both are very heavily promoted, billions of dollars per year, and both are detrimental to health. That said, there are some good drugs, like nootropics, for example. L-Deprenyl, hydergine, piracetum, etc., are actually helpful. Peace, D. Mindock - Original Message - From: Michael Friebel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2006 1:42 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Closed-Mindedness (Was Hypnosis as AnesthesiaWasTestimonials as Evidence) Health care today is industrialized medicine, driven by profit focused on treating the symptom rather preventing the disease. It is up to the individual to apply skepticism to the claims of this industry to protect both health pocketbook. We must take full responsibility for our health if we wish to be truly healthy; we cannot trust government or industry to do it for us. The best way to do this is to rely on both the most effective cheapest healthcare known to Man---prevention, along with the judicious use of only those treatments medicines whose efficacy undesired effects is backed by sufficient evidence. Neither conventional nor alternative medicine should be given a free ride, and while much of conventional medicine cannot be trusted, neither can most of the alternative. The safety of any treatment is completely depended upon proportional to the evidence we have regarding it. Until an alternative treatment is backed by sufficient evidence, and by more! than testimonial evidence or hearsay, its use is dangerous to some degree. Education skepticism are both critical to good health in today's information-glutted profit-driven world. We can only act to protect ourselves by the quality of the knowledge we possess, and while we gain our knowledge through education, we determine its quality through skepticism. Mike - Original Message From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2006 7:58:29 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Closed-Mindedness (Was Hypnosis as Anesthesia WasTestimonials as Evidence) The main edifice of conventional allopathic (cure-the-symptom) so-called Western medicine, ie industrialised medicine, is all the hospitals. Occupying very many of those hospital beds are patients suffering from iatrogenic illnesses, that is sickness caused by medical treatment (225,000 deaths per year in the US from iatrogenic causes - JAMA. 2000 Jul 26;284(4):483-5). Nonetheless a fairly august medical practitioner once got angry with my questions and shouted: Of COURSE we're more healthy now, we've got so many more hospital beds! LOL! At another time, at a meeting of the steering committee of a primary health care group working on development projects in 3rd World countries, I mentioned that there's more to health than just the absence of disease. There was a polite pause, one of the doctors said, Of course there is, and the discussion continued as if I hadn't said anything. The Western doctor who shouted at me didn't know what
[Biofuel] Some composting
So, I have an abundance of leaves (leafs to those in Canada! haha). Anyway, I would like to do some small scale, indoor composting (aerobic). I was reading some notes on JTF but didn't seem to find the information of nitrogen ratio for the Household Compost Activator. I would like to use mostly leaves and some vegie scraps along with peat moss. But, how much urine to add? I'm looking at the 20 gallon container size. Thanks, -dave ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Closed-Mindedness (Was Hypnosis as Anesthesia WasTestimonials as Evidence)
Keith Addison wrote: The main edifice of conventional allopathic (cure-the-symptom) so-called Western medicine, ie industrialised medicine, is all the hospitals. interesting term allopath, none of which as far as I am aware use the term. It was coined by Hahnemann, the founder of the most ridiculous counter-intuitive form of medicine , homeopathy. But that is another discussion. Occupying very many of those hospital beds are patients suffering from iatrogenic illnesses, that is sickness caused by medical treatment (225,000 deaths per year in the US from iatrogenic causes - JAMA. 2000 Jul 26;284(4):483-5). nocosomial infections are not surprising considering sick people are in the hospital. Could more be done to control secondary infections, sure. more space, more equipment, more personnel, and more money. And I doubt don't that there are yeast infections due to over prescribing of antibacterials. But whose fault? At least here in the US many, many folks expect some medicine even if it is called for or not. Or hospital visits could be reduced by diet and lifestyle modifications, but whose responsibility is that? The patient of course. Regardless, if my appendix ruptures then I will take my chances with western medicine and a hospital. I don't disagree with your general position. But I don't see how replacing western medicine with homeopathic nonsense or high colonics a la naturopathy would be the way to solve the problem. Nonetheless a fairly august medical practitioner once got angry with my questions and shouted: Of COURSE we're more healthy now, we've got so many more hospital beds! LOL! At another time, at a meeting of the steering committee of a primary health care group working on development projects in 3rd World countries, I mentioned that there's more to health than just the absence of disease. There was a polite pause, one of the doctors said, Of course there is, and the discussion continued as if I hadn't said anything. The Western doctor who shouted at me didn't know what I was talking about when I told him that. What's the difference? The glaring difference is that there's no market in 3rd World people who earn less than $2 a day, it's just not worth all the spin and corruption. There's no money in health anyway, maintaining disease is much more profitable, whether you're Big Pharma or a GP. Twenty-five years ago after I first started working with organic growing, a young doctor who was working with me got the idea that eating properly grown food might have something to do with it. He was working in a fishing community, quite poor people, and got very enthusiastic about the success he was having with this approach (nothing new - see, eg, The Medical Testament http://journeytoforever.org/farm_library.html#medtest). But later he complained that healthy patients didn't visit the doctor very often. Eventually he moved back to the city and became a surgeon. Every health education council I've talked to has stressed that health maintenance is primarily the patient's responsibility. But the patients are seduced by the quick cure that makes the symptom go away, and who needs more responsibility anyway? That's what doctors are for. Especially in the industrialised countries, millions of people now suffer from systemic candida albicans yeast infections, and not many of them can get effective medical treatment for it. They're quite likely to be referred to a psychiatrist instead because when they report the large variety of symptoms candida produces it's assumed to be psychosomatic. Most of the medical profession is in denial about candida because it's brought on by overuse of antibiotics and steroids. So a lot of people just die, with whatever symptom did it on the death certificate. Again to name just one, a study published in the BMJ a while back reported that back pain was the fastest-growing and one of the biggest medical problems in Britain at the time, and that conventional medicine had a very poor track record in treating it. The authors reported that several alternative therapies achieved much better results. They called for the alternative treatments to be made available via Britain's National Health scheme. That proposal didn't get very far. Some time before that the US DoA reported finding a potent anti-cancer drug in ordinary cabbages. But the report stated that the drug was unlikely to become available as it wasn't worth commercialising it because cabbages were too common. These days I suppose we'd suddenly find that cabbages had become the exclusive property of Pfizer or Bayer. There's something rollickingly insane about what happens to people who eat the food approved by the Food and Drugs Administration, and then they get the approved healthcare too (eg the Seven Deadly Drugs approved by the FDA). It's become a very
Re: [Biofuel] Closed-Mindedness (Was Hypnosis as Anesthesia WasTestimonials as Evidence)
Terry Dyck wrote: Hi Bob, This is a tough call; do I believe your website, which I know nothing about or do I consider the website to be similar to some rumors you needn't trust any web site. Federal convictions are a matter of public record. as are fines and fda cease and desist orders. He is a con(vict) and a con man. plain and simple. *Criminal history* 1990: Larceny prison Trudeau's legal problems are long-standing. In 1990, he posed as a doctor in order to deposit $80,000 in false checks, and in 1991 he pled guilty to larceny after he had provided false information to obtain credit cards which he used for his own purposes. He spent two years in prison because of this conviction.(Choi, 2005) Most people in opposition to Trudeau's claims point to this felony conviction as a good reason not to trust him. 1996: SEC Trudeau rebounded, making a small fortune working for Nutrition For Life, a multi-level marketing program. However, in 1996, his recruitment practices ran afoul of the states of Illinois and Michigan, as well as the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission. Michigan went so far as to forbid him from operating in the state. 1998: FTC fine Then, in 1998, he was forced to pay $500,000 in consumer redress to the Federal Trade Commission (FTC), relating to six infomercials he had produced and which the FTC determined he had made false or misleading claims. 2004: FTC ban, fines More recently, on September 7, 2004, the FTC announced that they were banning Trudeau from appearing in, producing, or disseminating any future infomercials that advertise any type of product because he repeatedly made fraudulent and unsubstantiated claims in them. [1] In addition, Trudeau paid $500,000 in cash and transferred ownership of a luxury vehicle and a piece of residential property in California to satisfy a $2 million fine against him. Lydia Parnes, Acting Director of the FTC's Bureau of Consumer Protection stated that This ban is meant to shut down an infomercial empire that has misled American consumers for years. The charges arose from work Trudeau did on an infomercial featuring Bob Barefoot and British actress Debbie Flett advertising coral calcium, a dietary supplement. However, Trudeau's infomercial advertising his book still airs on a daily basis because he is still allowed to promote publications. Airings of these infomercials in 2005 have included a guest appearance by Tammy Faye Bakker. started by people who thought that the famous environmentalist, Dr. David Suzuki, was too dangerous for the commercial world. The rumors about Suzuki, were not good for the environment but they gave amunition to people who were non environmental types. Kevin Trudeau, I am sure, has made some enemies with the Pharmaceutical Corporations and therefore could be a target. Terry Dyck From: bob allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Closed-Mindedness (Was Hypnosis as Anesthesia WasTestimonials as Evidence) Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2006 14:32:09 -0500 no, Terry, you need to look outside the book he went to prison for larceny- he stole money from people. The only big company he has headed was is own larcenous enterprises. http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0826051trudeau1.html he was 28 when he copped an April 1991 plea to two counts of credit card fraud. Trudeau's indictment, a copy of which you'll find below, was filed in Massachusetts and charged him with using unauthorized access devices to defraud American Express out of $122,735.68 (he also swindled about five grand from several banks, including Chemical and Citibank). Over five years, Trudeau, now 42, used false names and social security numbers to secure charge cards which he then ferociously milked. Trudeau was sentenced to two years in prison and ordered to make restitution on his credit card schemes. After serving 21 months in Uncle Sam's custody, Trudeau was released in August 1993 and placed on two years probation. did you happen to look at any of the reports from individuals at ripoffreport.com ? Terry Dyck wrote: Hi Bob, Kevin Trudeau went to prison because he was caught doing corrupt work for Pharmacitical corporations. That info is in his book. Terry Dyck From: bob allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Closed-Mindedness (Was Hypnosis as Anesthesia WasTestimonials as Evidence) Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2006 13:40:52 -0500 Terry, are you aware that the FTC has banned him from infomercials due to many many false statements? If you have ever seen any infomercials, you should know that the standard of acceptability very, very low. Well, Trudeau went below that. Or that he has spent time in prison for felony fraud? If you have ever seen any infomercials, you should know
Re: [Biofuel] $75,000 vaccine offer
as I recall the challenge is to take an injection with all the vaccines routinely administered. but I have already (received multiple vaccination, some of which are no longer used such as small pox vaccinations). If I can produce records of vaccinations and the fact that I am still alive , do I get the money? Marylynn Schmidt wrote: To be spread far and wide. Perhaps even someone on this list would be willing to step up to this challenge and accept this $75,000 dollars. Should be easy .. right!! It sounds realitively easy for those individuals who keep saying science has not proven .. etc. It's called place your money where your mouth is .. and in this case .. your mouth is in the fore front .. just who will accept this challenge?? This challenage was at $20,000 .. and there were no takers .. Now at $75,000 .. for a few months now .. I'm just a bit courious as to why just everyone isn't beating down those doors to accept .. NOW THAT'S A REALLY GOOD QUESTION .. HUMM .. I WONDER WHY??? Mary Lynn Rev. Mary Lynn Schmidt, Ordained Minister ONE SPIRIT ONE HEART TTouch . Reiki . Pet Loss Grief Counseling . Animal Behavior Modification . Shamanic Spiritual Travel . Behavior Problems . Psionic Energy Practitioner . Radionics . Herbs . Dowsing . Nutrition . Homeopathy . Polarity . The Animal Connection Healing Modalities http://members.tripod.com/~MLSchmidt/ http://allcreatureconnections.org spread the word Friends, As of August 1, 2006, I have increased the reward from $20,000 to $75,000 for the public drinking of the vaccine additives mixture. Please see the full text of the offer below, or at http://www.spontaneouscreation.org/SC/links.htm The original $20,000 Vaccine Offer was made January 29, 2001. Since that time, 14 doctors, or persons claiming to be doctors, have contacted me about publicly drinking the vaccine additives mixture. None have followed through. As of this date, the original $20,000 Vaccine Offer exists on over 300 web sites. Regarding the new $75,000 Vaccine Offer, please note that I have added to the list of potential candidates the 14 relevant members of the CDC's 2006 Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP), as follows: Jon S. Abramson, M.D. (Chair) Ban Mishu Allos, M.D. Carol Baker, M.D. Janet R. Gilsdorf, M.D. Harry Hull, M.D. Susan Lett, M.D. Tracy Lieu, M.D. Dale L. Morse, M.D. Julia Morita, M.D. Kathleen Neuzil, M.D. Patricia Stinchfield, N.P. Ciro Valent Sumaya, M.D. John J. Treanor, M.D. Robin J. Womeodu, M.D. In health! Jock Doubleday Director Natural Woman, Natural Man, Inc. A California 501(c)3 Nonprofit Corporation http://www.SpontaneousCreation.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.spontaneouscreation.org/SC/$75,000VaccineOffer.htm * * * PRESS RELEASE * * * August 1, 2006 $75,000 VACCINE OFFER THE FOLLOWING OFFER is made to U.S.-licensed medical doctors who routinely administer childhood vaccinations and to pharmaceutical company CEOs worldwide: Jock Doubleday, director of the California 501(c)3 nonprofit corporation Natural Woman, Natural Man, Inc., hereby offers $75,000.00 to the first medical doctor or pharmaceutical company CEO who publicly drinks a mixture of standard vaccine additives ingredients in the same amount as a six-year-old child is recommended to receive under the year-2005 guidelines of the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. (In the event that thimerosal has recently been removed from a particular vaccine, the thimerosal-containing version of that vaccine will be used.) The mixture will not contain viruses or bacteria dead or alive, but will contain standard vaccine additive ingredients in their usual forms and proportions. The mixture will include, but will not be limited to, the following ingredients: thimerosal (a mercury derivative), ethylene glycol (antifreeze), phenol (a disinfectant dye), benzethonium chloride (a disinfectant), formaldehyde (a preservative and disinfectant), and aluminum. The mixture will be prepared by Jock Doubleday, three medical professionals that he names, and three medical professionals that the participant names. The mixture will be body weight calibrated. Because the participant is either a professional caregiver who routinely administers childhood vaccinations, or a pharmaceutical company CEO whose business is, in part, the sale of childhood vaccines, it is understood by all parties that the participant considers all vaccine additive ingredients to be safe and that the participant considers any mixture containing these ingredients to be safe. The participant agrees, and any and all agents and associates of the participant agree, to indemnify and hold harmless in perpetuity any and all persons, organizations, and/or entities associated with the event for any harm caused, or alleged to be caused, directly or indirectly, to the participant or
Re: [Biofuel] NZ Coroners Report on Complementary Medicines
D. Mindock wrote: Hi Marylynn, Thanks for this info on NZ! Yeah, wow. I too am amazed that this study was done. It seems that common sense and spine abounds in NZ. God bless Wallace Bain! The same problems Down Under will be here in the US fairly soon. Big Pharma, along with the AMA and FDA is, imo, trying to snuff out alt medicine before it largely replaces the drugs, surgery, radiation, and chemo used by the so-called health care industry. They can do all the science they want, but the fact is that allopathic medicine is a failed model except for emergency care like heart attacks, acute disease, etc. For chronic problems, alt medicine is the way to go, where the whole person (mind, body, emotional state) is examined and treated. The same is true here wrt to herbs, supplements, essential oils, vitamins. Most of the deaths attributable to these have been because of gross misuse. When a young pro baseball player died a couple years ago because of his total misuse of ephedra the corporate friendly media was all over that story and really pounded it home. They failed to mention that he was trying to lose a lot of weight (winter fat) in a hurry. He took a triple dose of ephedra plus was wearing extra clothes, practicing baseball in the hot sun of Florida. Likely he was dehydrated too. When a few folks died after taking L-tryptophan, maybe six years ago, the FDA took advantage of that to pull it off the market, even though L-tryptophan is a common amino acid found in a number of foods and completely harmless. The manufacturer (a Japanese company) was found later to have released a contaminated product which caused the deaths. Nontheless, L-tryptophan, an essential amino acid, was kept off the market and is still unavailable. nonsense, you can get all tryptophan you want in 500 mg pills at Live extension, or just eat protein, it is full of tryptophan. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tryptophan Every year about 33 people die from contaminated soft cheese but it has never been pulled, as far as I know. Several baseball players are suspected of using performance enhancing steroids. So now, DHEA, a very useful supplement that enhances lean muscle mass, has anti-aging properties, and improves vitality, is the subject of legislation that will categorize it as an anabolic steroid, making it non-available to millions of men and women who use it routinely. This is being done in secret with no public discourse. Of course, the real granddaddy of all is the Codex Alimentarius whose aim is to clear the shelves of health food stores of all the stuff we're used to taking to help us maintain optimal health. Use any search engine to find more info on this. Likely the Codex is what's going on in Oz and now, NZ. Here in the states there is not a word about it on the media, so most have no clue. Dr Mathias Rath is leading the movement in Europe to stop the Codex. Here's his list of cancer studies, many of which are natural: http://www.drrathresearch.org/health_news/natural_health_cancer.html Big Pharma hates this guy are doing all they can to discredit him. Since they have been unsuccessful, you know he is the real deal. Just like Dr Burzynski in Texas. Peace and light, D. Mindock - Original Message - From: Marylynn Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2006 12:41 PM Subject: [Biofuel] NZ Coroners Report on Complementary Medicines Interesting .. I'm amazed that this study was done .. Mary Lynn Schmidt Despite extensive research, coroner Dr Wallace Bain found no deaths have occurred in New Zealand due to natural medicines such as vitamins, minerals and herbal products. Dear Health Freedom Advocate, Dr Wallace Bain, Acting Chair of the Coroners' Council, has just released this report into deaths caused by natural health medicines in New Zealand. He highlights the information in light of the push by the New Zealand government for greater control over natural medicines by way of legislation to create the Australia New Zealand Therapeutics Products Authority (ANZTPA). Natural medicines - the safest way to avoid death A report just released by the Acting Chair of the Coroner's Council has shown natural medicines have the lowest fatality rate of all medical treatments in New Zealand. Despite extensive research, coroner Dr Wallace Bain found no deaths have occurred in New Zealand due to natural medicines such as vitamins, minerals and herbal products. Dr Bain, who is also a trained pharmacist and lawyer, undertook the study in light of growing opposition to new legislation that will see New Zealand's natural health industry come under Australian laws. The safety of natural products is often sited as a reason for the need for such a move. The Labour government plans that the Australia New Zealand
Re: [Biofuel] NZ Coroners Report on Complementary Medicines
Talking about medicines natural or whatever. My father always said, that if they could make recipes on love and sex, it would be possible to cut the hospital beds in half. I have yet to find the physician that is not very scared to go to hospital and I have many friends who are physician. LOL Hakan At 00:01 16/10/2006, you wrote: D. Mindock wrote: Hi Marylynn, Thanks for this info on NZ! Yeah, wow. I too am amazed that this study was done. It seems that common sense and spine abounds in NZ. God bless Wallace Bain! The same problems Down Under will be here in the US fairly soon. Big Pharma, along with the AMA and FDA is, imo, trying to snuff out alt medicine before it largely replaces the drugs, surgery, radiation, and chemo used by the so-called health care industry. They can do all the science they want, but the fact is that allopathic medicine is a failed model except for emergency care like heart attacks, acute disease, etc. For chronic problems, alt medicine is the way to go, where the whole person (mind, body, emotional state) is examined and treated. The same is true here wrt to herbs, supplements, essential oils, vitamins. Most of the deaths attributable to these have been because of gross misuse. When a young pro baseball player died a couple years ago because of his total misuse of ephedra the corporate friendly media was all over that story and really pounded it home. They failed to mention that he was trying to lose a lot of weight (winter fat) in a hurry. He took a triple dose of ephedra plus was wearing extra clothes, practicing baseball in the hot sun of Florida. Likely he was dehydrated too. When a few folks died after taking L-tryptophan, maybe six years ago, the FDA took advantage of that to pull it off the market, even though L-tryptophan is a common amino acid found in a number of foods and completely harmless. The manufacturer (a Japanese company) was found later to have released a contaminated product which caused the deaths. Nontheless, L-tryptophan, an essential amino acid, was kept off the market and is still unavailable. nonsense, you can get all tryptophan you want in 500 mg pills at Live extension, or just eat protein, it is full of tryptophan. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tryptophan Every year about 33 people die from contaminated soft cheese but it has never been pulled, as far as I know. Several baseball players are suspected of using performance enhancing steroids. So now, DHEA, a very useful supplement that enhances lean muscle mass, has anti-aging properties, and improves vitality, is the subject of legislation that will categorize it as an anabolic steroid, making it non-available to millions of men and women who use it routinely. This is being done in secret with no public discourse. Of course, the real granddaddy of all is the Codex Alimentarius whose aim is to clear the shelves of health food stores of all the stuff we're used to taking to help us maintain optimal health. Use any search engine to find more info on this. Likely the Codex is what's going on in Oz and now, NZ. Here in the states there is not a word about it on the media, so most have no clue. Dr Mathias Rath is leading the movement in Europe to stop the Codex. Here's his list of cancer studies, many of which are natural: http://www.drrathresearch.org/health_news/natural_health_cancer.html Big Pharma hates this guy are doing all they can to discredit him. Since they have been unsuccessful, you know he is the real deal. Just like Dr Burzynski in Texas. Peace and light, D. Mindock - Original Message - From: Marylynn Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2006 12:41 PM Subject: [Biofuel] NZ Coroners Report on Complementary Medicines Interesting .. I'm amazed that this study was done .. Mary Lynn Schmidt Despite extensive research, coroner Dr Wallace Bain found no deaths have occurred in New Zealand due to natural medicines such as vitamins, minerals and herbal products. Dear Health Freedom Advocate, Dr Wallace Bain, Acting Chair of the Coroners' Council, has just released this report into deaths caused by natural health medicines in New Zealand. He highlights the information in light of the push by the New Zealand government for greater control over natural medicines by way of legislation to create the Australia New Zealand Therapeutics Products Authority (ANZTPA). Natural medicines - the safest way to avoid death A report just released by the Acting Chair of the Coroner's Council has shown natural medicines have the lowest fatality rate of all medical treatments in New Zealand. Despite extensive research, coroner Dr Wallace Bain found no deaths have occurred in New Zealand due to
Re: [Biofuel] $75,000 vaccine offer
The challenge is to drink the vaccine additive mixture with your individual weight adjustment. This is a fairly long standing, straight forward and well published offer and has the money to back the challenge. It's explained in the post. Mary Lynn Rev. Mary Lynn Schmidt, Ordained Minister ONE SPIRIT ONE HEART From: bob allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] $75,000 vaccine offer Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 16:47:59 -0500 as I recall the challenge is to take an injection with all the vaccines routinely administered. but I have already (received multiple vaccination, some of which are no longer used such as small pox vaccinations). If I can produce records of vaccinations and the fact that I am still alive , do I get the money? Marylynn Schmidt wrote: To be spread far and wide. Perhaps even someone on this list would be willing to step up to this challenge and accept this $75,000 dollars. Should be easy .. right!! It sounds realitively easy for those individuals who keep saying science has not proven .. etc. It's called place your money where your mouth is .. and in this case .. your mouth is in the fore front .. just who will accept this challenge?? This challenage was at $20,000 .. and there were no takers .. Now at $75,000 .. for a few months now .. I'm just a bit courious as to why just everyone isn't beating down those doors to accept .. NOW THAT'S A REALLY GOOD QUESTION .. HUMM .. I WONDER WHY??? Mary Lynn Rev. Mary Lynn Schmidt, Ordained Minister ONE SPIRIT ONE HEART TTouch . Reiki . Pet Loss Grief Counseling . Animal Behavior Modification . Shamanic Spiritual Travel . Behavior Problems . Psionic Energy Practitioner . Radionics . Herbs . Dowsing . Nutrition . Homeopathy . Polarity . The Animal Connection Healing Modalities http://members.tripod.com/~MLSchmidt/ http://allcreatureconnections.org spread the word Friends, As of August 1, 2006, I have increased the reward from $20,000 to $75,000 for the public drinking of the vaccine additives mixture. Please see the full text of the offer below, or at http://www.spontaneouscreation.org/SC/links.htm The original $20,000 Vaccine Offer was made January 29, 2001. Since that time, 14 doctors, or persons claiming to be doctors, have contacted me about publicly drinking the vaccine additives mixture. None have followed through. As of this date, the original $20,000 Vaccine Offer exists on over 300 web sites. Regarding the new $75,000 Vaccine Offer, please note that I have added to the list of potential candidates the 14 relevant members of the CDC's 2006 Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP), as follows: Jon S. Abramson, M.D. (Chair) Ban Mishu Allos, M.D. Carol Baker, M.D. Janet R. Gilsdorf, M.D. Harry Hull, M.D. Susan Lett, M.D. Tracy Lieu, M.D. Dale L. Morse, M.D. Julia Morita, M.D. Kathleen Neuzil, M.D. Patricia Stinchfield, N.P. Ciro Valent Sumaya, M.D. John J. Treanor, M.D. Robin J. Womeodu, M.D. In health! Jock Doubleday Director Natural Woman, Natural Man, Inc. A California 501(c)3 Nonprofit Corporation http://www.SpontaneousCreation.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.spontaneouscreation.org/SC/$75,000VaccineOffer.htm * * * PRESS RELEASE * * * August 1, 2006 $75,000 VACCINE OFFER THE FOLLOWING OFFER is made to U.S.-licensed medical doctors who routinely administer childhood vaccinations and to pharmaceutical company CEOs worldwide: Jock Doubleday, director of the California 501(c)3 nonprofit corporation Natural Woman, Natural Man, Inc., hereby offers $75,000.00 to the first medical doctor or pharmaceutical company CEO who publicly drinks a mixture of standard vaccine additives ingredients in the same amount as a six-year-old child is recommended to receive under the year-2005 guidelines of the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. (In the event that thimerosal has recently been removed from a particular vaccine, the thimerosal-containing version of that vaccine will be used.) The mixture will not contain viruses or bacteria dead or alive, but will contain standard vaccine additive ingredients in their usual forms and proportions. The mixture will include, but will not be limited to, the following ingredients: thimerosal (a mercury derivative), ethylene glycol (antifreeze), phenol (a disinfectant dye), benzethonium chloride (a disinfectant), formaldehyde (a preservative and disinfectant), and aluminum. The mixture will be prepared by Jock Doubleday, three medical professionals that he names, and three medical professionals that the participant names. The mixture will be body weight calibrated. Because the participant is either a professional caregiver who routinely administers
Re: [Biofuel] NZ Coroners Report on Complementary Medicines
Years ago I worked nights part time in admissions in a large hospital .. one night a drawer that was absolutely ALWAYS locked was somehow left open .. my co-worker and I, being the curious types couldn't resist taking a look. .. there was a book that contained single spaced, double sided, legal sized paper filled with the names of the medical doctors that had hospital privileges but could not prescribe drugs and/or operate without supervision. The desk drawer belonged to the individual who was responsible for scheduling operations. When a request came in, she was the one that reserved the operating room .. and the competent medical doctor who was to oversee the incompetent medical doctor .. That book was quite thick with hundreds of names .. quite a few well known. I think it's fairly well known and accepted as fact that the medical profession does not police their own so, to my way of thinking, anyone who had their name on that list would have to be a rather frequent and serious repeat offender .. and so very, very many .. And then there's that book Dead Doctors Don't Lie .. I believe that 2 separate surveys have been taken that support the fact that medical doctors live 20 years less time than the non-medical doctor. Just my thoughts on the matter .. with just my limited knowledge of what goes on inside a hospital I'm scared of going to a hospital .. I don't believe all medical doctors can actually believe their own BS. I have that book around here somewhere .. maybe I'll go look up a few things. Mary Lynn Rev. Mary Lynn Schmidt, Ordained Minister ONE SPIRIT ONE HEART TTouch . Reiki . Pet Loss Grief Counseling . Animal Behavior Modification . Shamanic Spiritual Travel . Behavior Problems . Psionic Energy Practitioner . Radionics . Herbs . Dowsing . Nutrition . Homeopathy . Polarity . The Animal Connection Healing Modalities http://members.tripod.com/~MLSchmidt/ http://allcreatureconnections.org From: Hakan Falk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] NZ Coroners Report on Complementary Medicines Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 00:37:06 +0200 Talking about medicines natural or whatever. My father always said, that if they could make recipes on love and sex, it would be possible to cut the hospital beds in half. I have yet to find the physician that is not very scared to go to hospital and I have many friends who are physician. LOL Hakan At 00:01 16/10/2006, you wrote: D. Mindock wrote: Hi Marylynn, Thanks for this info on NZ! Yeah, wow. I too am amazed that this study was done. It seems that common sense and spine abounds in NZ. God bless Wallace Bain! The same problems Down Under will be here in the US fairly soon. Big Pharma, along with the AMA and FDA is, imo, trying to snuff out alt medicine before it largely replaces the drugs, surgery, radiation, and chemo used by the so-called health care industry. They can do all the science they want, but the fact is that allopathic medicine is a failed model except for emergency care like heart attacks, acute disease, etc. For chronic problems, alt medicine is the way to go, where the whole person (mind, body, emotional state) is examined and treated. The same is true here wrt to herbs, supplements, essential oils, vitamins. Most of the deaths attributable to these have been because of gross misuse. When a young pro baseball player died a couple years ago because of his total misuse of ephedra the corporate friendly media was all over that story and really pounded it home. They failed to mention that he was trying to lose a lot of weight (winter fat) in a hurry. He took a triple dose of ephedra plus was wearing extra clothes, practicing baseball in the hot sun of Florida. Likely he was dehydrated too. When a few folks died after taking L-tryptophan, maybe six years ago, the FDA took advantage of that to pull it off the market, even though L-tryptophan is a common amino acid found in a number of foods and completely harmless. The manufacturer (a Japanese company) was found later to have released a contaminated product which caused the deaths. Nontheless, L-tryptophan, an essential amino acid, was kept off the market and is still unavailable. nonsense, you can get all tryptophan you want in 500 mg pills at Live extension, or just eat protein, it is full of tryptophan. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tryptophan Every year about 33 people die from contaminated soft cheese but it has never been pulled, as far as I know. Several baseball players are suspected of using performance enhancing steroids. So now, DHEA, a very useful supplement that enhances lean muscle mass, has anti-aging properties, and improves vitality, is the subject of legislation that will
Re: [Biofuel] NZ Coroners Report on Complementary Medicines
Years ago I worked nights part time in admissions in a large hospital .. one night a drawer that was absolutely ALWAYS locked was somehow left open .. my co-worker and I, being the curious types couldn't resist taking a look. .. there was a book that contained single spaced, double sided, legal sized paper filled with the names of the medical doctors that had hospital privileges but could not prescribe drugs and/or operate without supervision. The desk drawer belonged to the individual who was responsible for scheduling operations. When a request came in, she was the one that reserved the operating room .. and the competent medical doctor who was to oversee the incompetent medical doctor .. That book was quite thick with hundreds of names .. quite a few well known. I think it's fairly well known and accepted as fact that the medical profession does not police their own so, to my way of thinking, anyone who had their name on that list would have to be a rather frequent and serious repeat offender .. and so very, very many .. And then there's that book Dead Doctors Don't Lie .. I believe that 2 separate surveys have been taken that support the fact that medical doctors live 20 years less time than the non-medical doctor. Just my thoughts on the matter .. with just my limited knowledge of what goes on inside a hospital I'm scared of going to a hospital .. I don't believe all medical doctors can actually believe their own BS. I have that book around here somewhere .. maybe I'll go look up a few things. Mary Lynn Rev. Mary Lynn Schmidt, Ordained Minister ONE SPIRIT ONE HEART TTouch . Reiki . Pet Loss Grief Counseling . Animal Behavior Modification . Shamanic Spiritual Travel . Behavior Problems . Psionic Energy Practitioner . Radionics . Herbs . Dowsing . Nutrition . Homeopathy . Polarity . The Animal Connection Healing Modalities http://members.tripod.com/~MLSchmidt/ http://allcreatureconnections.org From: Hakan Falk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] NZ Coroners Report on Complementary Medicines Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 00:37:06 +0200 Talking about medicines natural or whatever. My father always said, that if they could make recipes on love and sex, it would be possible to cut the hospital beds in half. I have yet to find the physician that is not very scared to go to hospital and I have many friends who are physician. LOL Hakan At 00:01 16/10/2006, you wrote: D. Mindock wrote: Hi Marylynn, Thanks for this info on NZ! Yeah, wow. I too am amazed that this study was done. It seems that common sense and spine abounds in NZ. God bless Wallace Bain! The same problems Down Under will be here in the US fairly soon. Big Pharma, along with the AMA and FDA is, imo, trying to snuff out alt medicine before it largely replaces the drugs, surgery, radiation, and chemo used by the so-called health care industry. They can do all the science they want, but the fact is that allopathic medicine is a failed model except for emergency care like heart attacks, acute disease, etc. For chronic problems, alt medicine is the way to go, where the whole person (mind, body, emotional state) is examined and treated. The same is true here wrt to herbs, supplements, essential oils, vitamins. Most of the deaths attributable to these have been because of gross misuse. When a young pro baseball player died a couple years ago because of his total misuse of ephedra the corporate friendly media was all over that story and really pounded it home. They failed to mention that he was trying to lose a lot of weight (winter fat) in a hurry. He took a triple dose of ephedra plus was wearing extra clothes, practicing baseball in the hot sun of Florida. Likely he was dehydrated too. When a few folks died after taking L-tryptophan, maybe six years ago, the FDA took advantage of that to pull it off the market, even though L-tryptophan is a common amino acid found in a number of foods and completely harmless. The manufacturer (a Japanese company) was found later to have released a contaminated product which caused the deaths. Nontheless, L-tryptophan, an essential amino acid, was kept off the market and is still unavailable. nonsense, you can get all tryptophan you want in 500 mg pills at Live extension, or just eat protein, it is full of tryptophan. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tryptophan Every year about 33 people die from contaminated soft cheese but it has never been pulled, as far as I know. Several baseball players are suspected of using performance enhancing steroids. So now, DHEA, a very useful supplement that enhances lean muscle mass, has anti-aging properties, and improves vitality, is the subject of legislation that will
Re: [Biofuel] THE TRUTH BEHIND THE VACCINE COVER-UP
Marylynn Schmidt wrote: Quite long but interesting. Quite long, indeed! Here's a quote: Dr. Johnson says on page 17, We agree that it would be desirable to remove mercury from U.S. licensed vaccines, but we did not agree that this was a universal recommendation that we would make because of the issue concerning preservatives for delivering vaccines to other countries, particularly developing countries, in the absence of hard data that implied that there was in fact a problem. In other words, there isn't any hard evidence of a problem. Vaccine preservatives have been used since the 1930's, so we should be seeing a very large impact across the population. If the follow-up study in the Seychelles indicates poor recall among children exposed to environmental mercury from fish, we should be noting a corresponding decline in memory function among immunized people elsewhere, if in fact, exposure to thimerosal in vaccines can be equated with the dietary intake of mercury-contaminated fish. (Can it be?) So if the link between thimerosal and developmental defects, ADD and other cognitive problems is causal, why do we not see generalized evidence of this within the population? I've been immunized, as have my sisters, my wife, her brother and his wife, and all of our children, yet none of us exhibits any symptoms of impaired neurodevelopment. I don't want to dismiss you, nor do I wish to stop the recent discussion. It seems, however, that we have a camp of people who find danger in Western medicine and seem very willing to discard the entire corpus of knowledge humanity has developed from the occidental perspective. I think the case in the article is overstated. For example: In other words, both of these studies tell us nothing about the actual development of these children's brain function except that they reached the most basic of milestones. To put this another way, your child may be able to stack blocks, recognize shapes and have basic language skills but later in life they could be significantly impaired when it came to higher math, more advanced language skills (comprehension) and ability to compete in a very competitive intellectual environment, like college or advanced schooling. Their future would be limited to the more mundane and intellectually limited jobs. That may be true with or without exposure to thimerosal in vaccines. I work with children who have learning disabilities, and it's not possible to uncover a singular cause that explains the breadth and depth of learning issues in children. Often, multiple causes synergize, ranging from utterly ineffective teaching all the way down the scale to serious, organic brain dysfunction. I had no trouble and no regret authorizing vaccinations for my children. Neither of them suffer from neurological problems. They're doing well in school, too. Yet I've talked to clients whose children are the same ages as mine, who attribute their children's learning difficulties to vaccinations. When I ask these concerned parents about diet, sleep, exercise and water consumption, they're very quick to dismiss any link between something as obvious as sleep and their child's brain development. Sigh . . . robert luis rabello The Edge of Justice Adventure for Your Mind http://www.newadventure.ca Ranger Supercharger Project Page http://www.members.shaw.ca/rabello/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Some composting
Hello Jim Dave, I just started my winter pile, and I added about a gallon, I add more when I get it but it seems that gets things moving pretty fast. It usually takes about a week before my pile really takes off. How hot does it get? Also, how big is it? If it doesnt go after a week I just add more HCA turn it maybe sprinkle a little soil on top and wash it in. If it still does not take off then I may change the ratio of greens a bit. Be patient is the best advice. I add HCA each time I turn the pile each week. Turning each week, wow, too much work! Try for no turning at all, better result too. Best Keith I just spread what I composted over the summer on my front lawn. I bet I hauled in 20 wheel barrows of stuff into it this summer including about 20 gallons of Biodiesel bi product and hauled out 2 when it was done. I use some wood chips that I get free at work as my browns. I have found that if you can chop and disperse your greens they eliminate faster and there is less chance of rot smell. So far my compost has never given off a bad smell it is always a fresh earthy smell. Well best of luck, composting is really worth the effort you just cannot believe the difference in everything from the vibrancy of your flowers to the health of your plants. I even think plants get so healthy that they attract good insects as well as have something in them that discourages pests. This year my Organic composted plot was almost weed free, I had zero bug loss and it doubled the yield when compared to the other plot that had all the best commercial fertilizers money could be wasted on. Next year I plan on being 100% organic and that includes my lawn. Jim - Original Message - From: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mailto:biofuel@sustainablelists.orgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2006 2:02 PM Subject: [Biofuel] Some composting So, I have an abundance of leaves (leafs to those in Canada! haha). Anyway, I would like to do some small scale, indoor composting (aerobic). I was reading some notes on JTF but didn't seem to find the information of nitrogen ratio for the Household Compost Activator. I would like to use mostly leaves and some vegie scraps along with peat moss. But, how much urine to add? I'm looking at the 20 gallon container size. Thanks, -dave ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Isuzu Pickup
Can any one on the list tell me what I need to do to convert my newest vehicle to B-100. Its an 88 Isuzu pickup and has less than 100k miles. Put the fuel in the tank. Best Keith Thanks, Jim ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Some composting
Dave, I just started my winter pile, and I added about a gallon, I add more when I get it but it seems that gets things moving pretty fast. It usually takes about a week before my pile really takes off.If it doesnt go after a week I just add more HCA turn it maybe sprinkle a little soil on top and wash it in. If it stilldoes nottake off then I may change the ratio of greens a bit. Be patient is the best advice.I add HCA each time I turn the pile each week. I just spread what I composted over the summer on my front lawn. I bet I hauled in 20 wheel barrows of stuff into it this summer including about 20 gallons of Biodiesel bi product and hauled out 2 when it was done. I use some wood chips that I get free at work as my browns. I have found that if you can chop and disperse your greens they eliminate faster and thereis less chance of rot smell. So far my compost has never given off a bad smell it is always a fresh earthy smell. Well best of luck, composting is really worth the effort you just cannot believe the difference in everything from the vibrancy of your flowers to the health of your plants. I even think plants get so healthy that they attract good insects as well as have something in them that discourages pests. This year my Organic composted plot was almost weed free, I had zero bug loss and it doubled the yield when compared to the otherplot that had all the bestcommercialfertilizers money could be wasted on.Next year I plan on being 100% organic and that includes my lawn. Jim - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2006 2:02 PM Subject: [Biofuel] Some composting So, I have an abundance of leaves (leafs to those in Canada! haha). Anyway, I would like to do some small scale, indoor composting (aerobic). I was reading some notes on JTF but didn't seem to find the information of nitrogen ratio for the "Household Compost Activator." I would like to use mostly leaves and some vegie scraps along with peat moss. But, how much urine to add? I'm looking at the 20 gallon container size.Thanks,-dave___Biofuel mailing listBiofuel@sustainablelists.orghttp://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.orgBiofuel at Journey to Forever:http://journeytoforeverorg/biofuel.htmlSearch the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages):http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Isuzu Pickup
Can any one on the list tell me what I need to do to convert my newest vehicle to B-100. Its an 88 Isuzu pickup and has less than 100k miles. Thanks, Jim ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] THE TRUTH BEHIND THE VACCINE COVER-UP
SNIP I had no trouble and no regret authorizing vaccinations for my children. Neither of them suffer from neurological problems. They're doing well in school, too. Yet I've talked to clients whose children are the same ages as mine, who attribute their children's learning difficulties to vaccinations. When I ask these concerned parents about diet, sleep, exercise and water consumption, they're very quick to dismiss any link between something as obvious as sleep and their child's brain development. Sigh . . . robert luis rabello The Edge of Justice Adventure for Your Mind http://www.newadventure.ca they made my wife sign the papers for the boys' vaccinations when she was in labor. just exactly how in the hell is someone supposed to read all that legal garbage when they are in recurring intense pain? they wouldnt let me read any of it, and said since i was not the patient, i could not sign anything. out of paranoia i demanded to see all the labels before the vaccines were used, but they were single doses only good for about an hour outside of refrigeration, and had no preservatives, but it still makes me mad. ANYWAYS, back to my original thought, i had a lot of sleeping problems and supposed ADD when i was in school, but i also had a really rotten habit of only eating one huge meal a day(dinner), and surviving on caffeine drinks during classtime. hmm, i wonder why i had so many problems growing up... Jason ICQ#: 154998177 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] SNIP -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.2/471 - Release Date: 10/10/2006 ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] THE TRUTH BEHIND THE VACCINE COVER-UP
Jason Katie wrote: they made my wife sign the papers for the boys' vaccinations when she was in labor. just exactly how in the hell is someone supposed to read all that legal garbage when they are in recurring intense pain? That's ridiculous! Where did this happen? they wouldnt let me read any of it, and said since i was not the patient, i could not sign anything. out of paranoia i demanded to see all the labels before the vaccines were used, but they were single doses only good for about an hour outside of refrigeration, and had no preservatives, but it still makes me mad. When were the vaccinations administered? ANYWAYS, back to my original thought, i had a lot of sleeping problems and supposed ADD when i was in school, but i also had a really rotten habit of only eating one huge meal a day(dinner), and surviving on caffeine drinks during classtime. hmm, i wonder why i had so many problems growing up... As I had written: Learning problems are often the result of complex interactions . . . robert luis rabello The Edge of Justice Adventure for Your Mind http://www.newadventure.ca Ranger Supercharger Project Page http://www.members.shaw.ca/rabello/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
