[Biofuel] FDA sued over mercury in medicines
I wonder how the FDA will wiggle out of this lawsuit. Peace, D. Mindock-- http://www.aapsonline.org/nod/newsofday357.php News of the Day ... In Perspective11/13/2006 FDA sued over mercury in medicines On Oct 27, the Coalition for Mercury-free Drugs (CoMeD) filed an amended complaint in U.S. federal court, disputing a Sept 26 FDA response defending the use of mercury in medications. The lawsuit, originally filed in August 2006, asks the court to force the FDA to comply with existing law and regulations and provide proof of the safety and efficacy of mercury in drugs. The suit was filed because the FDA failed to answer issues raised in a citizen petition filed on Aug 4, 2004, by CoMeD representatives. Mercury is found in at least 45 different prescribed or over-the-counter drugs, including eye ointments, nasal sprays, and vaccines, most importantly, flu vaccines administered to children and pregnant women. In a 1999 internal email, obtained under a Freedom of Information Act request, an FDA official wrote that the agencys failure to evaluate the cumulative amount of mercury in medicine will raise questions about FDA being asleep at the switch for decades by allowing a potentially hazardous compound to remain and not forcing manufacturers to exclude it from new products . In a second email, the same official wrote: the greatest point of vulnerability on this issue is that the systematic review by the FDA could have been done years ago and on an ongoing basis. In a letter by FDA Acting Assistant Commissioner for Policy Jeffrey Shuren, denying the CoMeD petition, the admission that the FDA had no substantive evidence confirming the safety of mercury in medicine was stunning, stated CoMeD. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] The Emperor's New Hydrogen Economy - a book by Darryl McMahon
Fellow listers, my book, The Emperor's New Hydrogen Economy, is now in print. For those wishing to conserve trees, an eBook version is also available. From the back cover: The perfect storm is approaching for energy in North America. World peak oil production has arrived. North American peak natural gas production is knocking on the door. The electrical generation and transmission system is suffering from years of under-investment in the wake of deregulation, corporate mergers, market gaming and cost cutting to boost short-term share values. Demand continues to rise. Analysts forecast dramatic increases in energy prices for the next decade and more. The Emperor's New Hydrogen Economy shows in detail why the much-heralded Hydrogen Economy won’t work as advertised, and even if it could, it won’t be ready in time to help most of us. You can improve your situation as the North American energy crunch unfolds. You can keep your quality of life, and not revert to the Dark Ages as oil supplies diminish. Understand why you need your own personal energy plan, so you can maintain your lifestyle, improve the environment and save money doing it. Learn how from an author who shares his personal experiences and sees light at the end of the path ahead, not blackouts. The book embodies more than four years of research and writing (and logistics associated with producing a physical book for sale in a competitive market). It stems from my work in the field of electric vehicles, and the original promise of hydrogen fuel cells circa 2000. As I dug into the subject, I found there were significant issues. Since 2002, I have presented talks, written articles, and had a Web page dedicated to the subject. The book is an extension from that, and the result of exhortations from others that I should present the material in this format. The first half of the book examines the issues surrounding the hydrogen economy in some detail. The second half explores why we need to become more self-sufficient, and various means at our disposal to do so. That includes many of the things with which I have some first-hand experience: electric vehicles, conservation, efficiency, solar space heating, solar water heating, etc. within a survey of proven, ready-now preferred alternatives. Given the discussions I have enjoyed here over the past few years, I am sure many of you will be interested in the content. Without question, this list has opened my eyes to some potential opportunities I would not have known about otherwise. It has also introduced me to some people who encouraged me with the endeavour, and with material. Thank you. Naturally, JtF merits a mention in the book (page 250). More information on the book is available at my Web site, at http://www.econogics.com/TENHE/ The book is available from several sources, including the following. The publisher, iUniverse (eBook) http://www.iuniverse.com/bookstore/book_detail.asp?isbn=0-595-83619-4 Trade paperback http://www.iuniverse.com/bookstore/book_detail.asp?isbn=0-595-39229-6 Amazon.com http://www.amazon.com/Emperors-New-Hydrogen-Economy/dp/0595392296/ Barnes and Noble http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbnInquiry.asp?z=yEAN=9780595392292 Chapters.Indigo.ca http://www.chapters.indigo.ca/books/item/books-978059539229/ In the event you want a signed copy, please e-mail me directly. I'm currently out of stock, but should receive more next week. -- Darryl McMahon It's your planet. If you won't look after it, who will? The Emperor's New Hydrogen Economy (now in print and eBook) http://www.econogics.com/TENHE/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Interesting story from The Washington Post
It was the move back to Bozeman, Jones said, that caused his skin to turn blue. Using tap water in Seattle, he said, he had been making a colloidal silver antibiotic by charging two silver wires in a glass of water with an electric current. But using the same technique in Bozeman, where the mineral content of tap water is much higher, the silver bonded with other elements in the water, and the resulting mixture gave Jones argyria. It is an extremely rare but relatively harmless condition that can permanently stain skin a bluish gray. Jones said he was not aware that he had argyria until he participated in a televised debate as part of his failed 2002 campaign against Montana Sen. Max Baucus, a Democrat. After the debate, Jones recalled, a reporter came up and asked me: 'Are you okay? Your face is really blue.' ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Interesting story from The Washington Post
Like anything else, making biofuel for example, you get out what you put in. You have to know what you are doing. Colloids are made of particles in the mid to low nanometer range and hence are suspended by brownian movement and do not settle. Electro-colloidal formation is easy using a regulated current source and high purity water. Using water of low quality and especially with an unregulated power source results in larger particles. Sometimes store bought silver colloid contains other things in the water to try to prevent settling. Good colloidal silver doesn't require this and never settles. Nano particles can move easily in cellular structures and hence are easily adsorbed and also eliminated. I have been making and using colloidal silver since 1997 according to a process I developed which produces about 15 ppm (99.9% pure silver) content. I am not able to measure particle size but laser diffraction easily reveals the presence of the particles and gas chromatography gave me the analysis. Silver is a potent antibacterial and seems to work somehow as an antiviral also. Maybe this is because viruses often hijack harmless naturally occuring bacteria and use them for their own purpose and the silver interferes with this process. I don't really understand it and I don't know if anyone else yet does but the antibacterial effects of silver were known long before the age of anibiotics. Argyria is caused when particle sizes are large and can't be eliminated. I have been using colloidal silver regularly for 9 years. No blue skin here. I could tell you some amazing stories from my own experience with the stuff. It has saved me from the common cold or worse countless times when caught in the early stages. Anecdotal evidence though. Sorry. But just for a lark try this experiment at home kiddies. Get some nice fresh cut flowers and divide them in half. Put some water in two vases and add just a few drops of colloidal silver ( say 1ml per litre of water) to one of them. Put the flowers in and then wait and see what happens. It'll be like the experiments on fast food in the movie supersize me lol. Check how the water looks and smells in both vases daily and how the flowers respond to the conditions over the next month or more. Joe Mike Weaver wrote: It was the move back to Bozeman, Jones said, that caused his skin to turn blue. Using tap water in Seattle, he said, he had been making a colloidal silver antibiotic by charging two silver wires in a glass of water with an electric current. But using the same technique in Bozeman, where the mineral content of tap water is much higher, the silver bonded with other elements in the water, and the resulting mixture gave Jones argyria. It is an extremely rare but relatively harmless condition that can permanently stain skin a bluish gray. Jones said he was not aware that he had argyria until he participated in a televised debate as part of his failed 2002 campaign against Montana Sen. Max Baucus, a Democrat. After the debate, Jones recalled, a reporter came up and asked me: 'Are you okay? Your face is really blue.' ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Interesting story from The Washington Post
Jones has written how he made his Colloidal Silver to keep himself healthy .. using tap water he cooked it for hours and drank glasses of it every day for quite a few years. There is also a woman .. forgot her name .. her medical doctor gave her the same stuff when she was a child. That blue skin condition is correctable but requires drinking a great deal of water and one of them .. don't remember which one actually said something about not wanting to drink all that water .. .. I thought at the time I read that that having blue skin must be some sort of claim to fame .. Reading all the various ways people have made CS .. knowing that CS is sold with ppm of 10 all the way up to 500 and more you would almost have to understand that somehow it just couldn't be the same stuff. I make my own with distilled water .. takes about 4 hours and comes in about 12 ppm. I call it EIS .. electrically isolated silver .. and it does the job for me. Mary Lynn Rev. Mary Lynn Schmidt, Ordained Minister ONE SPIRIT ONE HEART TTouch . Reiki . Pet Loss Grief Counseling . Animal Behavior Modification . Shamanic Spiritual Travel . Behavior Problems . Psionic Energy Practitioner . Radionics . Herbs . Dowsing . Nutrition . Homeopathy . Polarity . The Animal Connection Healing Modalities http://members.tripod.com/~MLSchmidt/ http://allcreatureconnections.org From: Mike Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: [Biofuel] Interesting story from The Washington Post Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 08:31:31 -0500 It was the move back to Bozeman, Jones said, that caused his skin to turn blue. Using tap water in Seattle, he said, he had been making a colloidal silver antibiotic by charging two silver wires in a glass of water with an electric current. But using the same technique in Bozeman, where the mineral content of tap water is much higher, the silver bonded with other elements in the water, and the resulting mixture gave Jones argyria. It is an extremely rare but relatively harmless condition that can permanently stain skin a bluish gray. Jones said he was not aware that he had argyria until he participated in a televised debate as part of his failed 2002 campaign against Montana Sen. Max Baucus, a Democrat. After the debate, Jones recalled, a reporter came up and asked me: 'Are you okay? Your face is really blue.' ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] The Emperor's New Hydrogen Economy - a book by Darryl McMahon
Darryl was nice to send me a pre copy and later a signed copy and I can give my best recommendations. It covers the issues very well in a way that is very easy to understand. Hakan At 17:12 14/11/2006, you wrote: Fellow listers, my book, The Emperor's New Hydrogen Economy, is now in print. For those wishing to conserve trees, an eBook version is also available. From the back cover: The perfect storm is approaching for energy in North America. World peak oil production has arrived. North American peak natural gas production is knocking on the door. The electrical generation and transmission system is suffering from years of under-investment in the wake of deregulation, corporate mergers, market gaming and cost cutting to boost short-term share values. Demand continues to rise. Analysts forecast dramatic increases in energy prices for the next decade and more. The Emperor's New Hydrogen Economy shows in detail why the much-heralded Hydrogen Economy won't work as advertised, and even if it could, it won't be ready in time to help most of us. You can improve your situation as the North American energy crunch unfolds. You can keep your quality of life, and not revert to the Dark Ages as oil supplies diminish. Understand why you need your own personal energy plan, so you can maintain your lifestyle, improve the environment and save money doing it. Learn how from an author who shares his personal experiences and sees light at the end of the path ahead, not blackouts. The book embodies more than four years of research and writing (and logistics associated with producing a physical book for sale in a competitive market). It stems from my work in the field of electric vehicles, and the original promise of hydrogen fuel cells circa 2000. As I dug into the subject, I found there were significant issues. Since 2002, I have presented talks, written articles, and had a Web page dedicated to the subject. The book is an extension from that, and the result of exhortations from others that I should present the material in this format. The first half of the book examines the issues surrounding the hydrogen economy in some detail. The second half explores why we need to become more self-sufficient, and various means at our disposal to do so. That includes many of the things with which I have some first-hand experience: electric vehicles, conservation, efficiency, solar space heating, solar water heating, etc. within a survey of proven, ready-now preferred alternatives. Given the discussions I have enjoyed here over the past few years, I am sure many of you will be interested in the content. Without question, this list has opened my eyes to some potential opportunities I would not have known about otherwise. It has also introduced me to some people who encouraged me with the endeavour, and with material. Thank you. Naturally, JtF merits a mention in the book (page 250). More information on the book is available at my Web site, at http://www.econogics.com/TENHE/ The book is available from several sources, including the following. The publisher, iUniverse (eBook) http://www.iuniverse.com/bookstore/book_detail.asp?isbn=0-595-83619-4 Trade paperback http://www.iuniverse.com/bookstore/book_detail.asp?isbn=0-595-39229-6 Amazon.com http://www.amazon.com/Emperors-New-Hydrogen-Economy/dp/0595392296/ Barnes and Noble http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbnInquiry.asp?z=yEAN=9780595392292 Chapters.Indigo.ca http://www.chapters.indigo.ca/books/item/books-978059539229/ In the event you want a signed copy, please e-mail me directly. I'm currently out of stock, but should receive more next week. -- Darryl McMahon It's your planet. If you won't look after it, who will? The Emperor's New Hydrogen Economy (now in print and eBook) http://www.econogics.com/TENHE/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Interesting story from The Washington Post
Since the ruling class had silver plates, cups and utensils they ingested a fair amount of silver. I was told this is where "blue bloods" comes from. KirkMarylynn Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jones has written how he made his Colloidal Silver to keep himself healthy .. using tap water he "cooked" it for hours and drank glasses of it every day for quite a few years.There is also a woman .. forgot her name .. her medical doctor gave her the same stuff when she was a child.That blue skin condition is correctable but requires drinking a great deal of water and one of them .. don't remember which one actually said something about not wanting to drink all that water I thought at the time I read that that having blue skin must be some sort of claim to fame ..Reading all the various ways people have made CS .. knowing that CS is sold with ppm of 10 all the way up to 500 and more you would almost have to understand that somehow it just couldn't be the same stuff.I make my own with distilled water .. takes about 4 hours and comes in about 12 ppm. I call it EIS .. electrically isolated silver .. and it does the job for me.Mary LynnRev. Mary Lynn Schmidt, Ordained MinisterONE SPIRIT ONE HEARTTTouch . Reiki . Pet Loss Grief Counseling . Animal Behavior Modification . Shamanic Spiritual Travel . Behavior Problems . Psionic Energy Practitioner . Radionics . Herbs . Dowsing . Nutrition . Homeopathy . Polarity .The Animal Connection Healing Modalitieshttp://members.tripod.com/~MLSchmidt/http://allcreatureconnections.orgFrom: Mike Weaver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.orgTo: Biofuel@sustainablelists.orgSubject: [Biofuel] Interesting story from The Washington PostDate: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 08:31:31 -0500It was the move back to Bozeman, Jones said, that caused his skin toturn blue. Using tap water in Seattle, he said, he had been making a"colloidal silver" antibiotic by charging two silver wires in a glass ofwater with an electric current.But using the same technique in Bozeman, where the mineral content oftap water is much higher, the silver bonded with other elements in thewater, and the resulting mixture gave Jones argyria. It is an extremelyrare but relatively harmless condition that can permanently stain skin abluish gray.Jones said he was not aware that he had argyria until he participated ina televised debate as part of his failed 2002 campaign against MontanaSen. Max Baucus, a Democrat."After the debate," Jones recalled, "a reporter came up and asked me:'Are you okay? Your face is really blue.' "___Biofuel mailing listBiofuel@sustainablelists.orghttp://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.orgBiofuel at Journey to Forever:http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.htmlSearch the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages):http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/___Biofuel mailing listBiofuel@sustainablelists.orghttp://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.orgBiofuel at Journey to Forever:http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.htmlSearch the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages):http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ Access over 1 million songs - Yahoo! Music Unlimited.___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] FDA sued over mercury in medicines
FDA is the enforcement arm of the AMA. They take care of the competition. The public be damned. Americans have to be the most naive people in the western world.Sigh Kirk"D. Mindock" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:I wonder how the FDA will wiggle out of this lawsuit. Peace, D. Mindock-- http://www.aapsonline.org/nod/newsofday357.php News of the Day ... In Perspective11/13/2006 FDA sued over mercury in medicines On Oct 27, the Coalition for Mercury-free Drugs (CoMeD) filed an amended complaint in U.S. federal court, disputing a Sept 26 FDA response defending the use of mercury in medications. The lawsuit, originally filed in August 2006, asks the court to force the FDA to comply with existing law and regulations and provide proof of the safety and efficacy of mercury in drugs. The suit was filed because the FDA failed to answer issues raised in a citizen petition filed on Aug 4, 2004, by CoMeD representatives. Mercury is found in at least 45 different prescribed or over-the-counter drugs, including eye ointments, nasal sprays, and vaccines, most importantly, flu vaccines administered to children and pregnant women. In a 1999 internal email, obtained under a Freedom of Information Act request, an FDA official wrote that the agencys failure to evaluate the cumulative amount of mercury in medicine will raise questions about FDA being asleep at the switch for decades by allowing a potentially hazardous compound to remain and not forcing manufacturers to exclude it from new products . In a second email, the same official wrote: the greatest point of vulnerability on this issue is that the systematic review by the FDA could have been done years ago and on an ongoing basis. In a letter by FDA Acting Assistant Commissioner for Policy Jeffrey Shuren, denying the CoMeD petition, the admission that the FDA had no substantive evidence confirming the safety of mercury in medicine was stunning, stated CoMeD. ___Biofuel mailing listBiofuel@sustainablelists.orghttp://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.orgBiofuel at Journey to Forever:http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.htmlSearch the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages):http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta.___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Diesel Motorcycle
http://www.motorcyclecruiser.com/roadtests/neander_1400_turbo_diesel_motorcycle/ SPECIFICATIONS Neander 1400 TurboDiesel Engine: Air/oil-cooled turbocharged parallel-twin diesel with twin 360-degree geared crankshafts, dual con-rods per cylinder Valve arrangement: Apfelbeck eight-valve cylinder head with gear-driven double overhead camshafts, and radial valves with opposed inlet and exhaust tracts Bore x stroke, displacement: 108 x 78.2 mm, 1430cc Compression ratio: 16:1 Carburetion: Garrett turbocharger with intercooler, Bosch electronic direct fuel injection, single top injector, 31mm throttle body Transmission: 6-speed Aprilia RSV1000R gearbox, multiplate dry clutch Final drive: Belt Weight: 595 lbs. dry Rake/trail: 31 degrees / 109 mm Wheelbase: 68.5 in. Seat height: 25.5 in. Front suspension: 43mm Paioli inverted fork Rear suspension: Single cantilever Ohlins damper Wheels: Spun-aluminum, 18x3.5 front, 18x5.5 rear Front brake: 2, 4-piston Performance Machine calipers, 11.8-in. discs Rear brake: 4-piston Performance Machine caliper, 11.8-in. disc Front tire: 130/60-18 Metzeler Marathon Rear tire: 240/40-18 Metzeler Marathon Claimed top speed: Over 140 mph Claimed power torque (at crankshaft): 94 bhp @ 4200 rpm, 129 ft/lb @ 2600 rpm ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Diesel Motorcycle
No doubt the crotch rocket crowd will be referring to this one as the 'Neanderthal' LOL Joe Mike Weaver wrote: http://www.motorcyclecruiser.com/roadtests/neander_1400_turbo_diesel_motorcycle/ SPECIFICATIONS Neander 1400 TurboDiesel Engine: Air/oil-cooled turbocharged parallel-twin diesel with twin 360-degree geared crankshafts, dual con-rods per cylinder Valve arrangement: Apfelbeck eight-valve cylinder head with gear-driven double overhead camshafts, and radial valves with opposed inlet and exhaust tracts Bore x stroke, displacement: 108 x 78.2 mm, 1430cc Compression ratio: 16:1 Carburetion: Garrett turbocharger with intercooler, Bosch electronic direct fuel injection, single top injector, 31mm throttle body Transmission: 6-speed Aprilia RSV1000R gearbox, multiplate dry clutch Final drive: Belt Weight: 595 lbs. dry Rake/trail: 31 degrees / 109 mm Wheelbase: 68.5 in. Seat height: 25.5 in. Front suspension: 43mm Paioli inverted fork Rear suspension: Single cantilever Ohlins damper Wheels: Spun-aluminum, 18x3.5 front, 18x5.5 rear Front brake: 2, 4-piston Performance Machine calipers, 11.8-in. discs Rear brake: 4-piston Performance Machine caliper, 11.8-in. disc Front tire: 130/60-18 Metzeler Marathon Rear tire: 240/40-18 Metzeler Marathon Claimed top speed: Over 140 mph Claimed power torque (at crankshaft): 94 bhp @ 4200 rpm, 129 ft/lb @ 2600 rpm ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] FDA sued over mercury in medicines
Amerians arn't the only naive people on the planetAustralians are doing a good job of being just as if not more naiveSomething we seem to be proud ofSigh SighLeoKirk McLoren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FDA is the enforcement arm of the AMA. They take care of the competition. The public be damned. Americans have to be the most naive people in the western world.Sigh Kirk"D. Mindock" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:I wonder how the FDA will wiggle out of this lawsuit. Peace, D. Mindock-- http://www.aapsonline.org/nod/newsofday357.php News of the Day ... In Perspective11/13/2006 FDA sued over mercury in medicines On Oct 27, the Coalition for Mercury-free Drugs (CoMeD) filed an amended complaint in U.S. federal court, disputing a Sept 26 FDA response defending the use of mercury in medications. The lawsuit, originally filed in August 2006, asks the court to force the FDA to comply with existing law and regulations and provide proof of the safety and efficacy of mercury in drugs. The suit was filed because the FDA failed to answer issues raised in a citizen petition filed on Aug 4, 2004, by CoMeD representatives. Mercury is found in at least 45 different prescribed or over-the-counter drugs, including eye ointments, nasal sprays, and vaccines, most importantly, flu vaccines administered to children and pregnant women. In a 1999 internal email, obtained under a Freedom of Information Act request, an FDA official wrote that the agencys failure to evaluate the cumulative amount of mercury in medicine will raise questions about FDA being asleep at the switch for decades by allowing a potentially hazardous compound to remain and not forcing manufacturers to exclude it from new products . In a second email, the same official wrote: the greatest point of vulnerability on this issue is that the systematic review by the FDA could have been done years ago and on an ongoing basis. In a letter by FDA Acting Assistant Commissioner for Policy Jeffrey Shuren, denying the CoMeD petition, the admission that the FDA had no substantive evidence confirming the safety of mercury in medicine was stunning, stated CoMeD. ___Biofuel mailing listBiofuel@sustainablelists.orghttp://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.orgBiofuel at Journey to Forever:http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.htmlSearch the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages):http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta.___Biofuel mailing listBiofuel@sustainablelists.orghttp://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.orgBiofuel at Journey to Forever:http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.htmlSearch the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages):http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] The Emperor's New Hydrogen Economy - a book by Darryl McMahon
Yay Darryl, you ROCK. Jesse --- Darryl McMahon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fellow listers, my book, The Emperor's New Hydrogen Economy, is now in print. For those wishing to conserve trees, an eBook version is also available. From the back cover: The perfect storm is approaching for energy in North America. World peak oil production has arrived. North American peak natural gas production is knocking on the door. The electrical generation and transmission system is suffering from years of under-investment in the wake of deregulation, corporate mergers, market gaming and cost cutting to boost short-term share values. Demand continues to rise. Analysts forecast dramatic increases in energy prices for the next decade and more. The Emperor's New Hydrogen Economy shows in detail why the much-heralded Hydrogen Economy wont work as advertised, and even if it could, it wont be ready in time to help most of us. You can improve your situation as the North American energy crunch unfolds. You can keep your quality of life, and not revert to the Dark Ages as oil supplies diminish. Understand why you need your own personal energy plan, so you can maintain your lifestyle, improve the environment and save money doing it. Learn how from an author who shares his personal experiences and sees light at the end of the path ahead, not blackouts. The book embodies more than four years of research and writing (and logistics associated with producing a physical book for sale in a competitive market). It stems from my work in the field of electric vehicles, and the original promise of hydrogen fuel cells circa 2000. As I dug into the subject, I found there were significant issues. Since 2002, I have presented talks, written articles, and had a Web page dedicated to the subject. The book is an extension from that, and the result of exhortations from others that I should present the material in this format. The first half of the book examines the issues surrounding the hydrogen economy in some detail. The second half explores why we need to become more self-sufficient, and various means at our disposal to do so. That includes many of the things with which I have some first-hand experience: electric vehicles, conservation, efficiency, solar space heating, solar water heating, etc. within a survey of proven, ready-now preferred alternatives. Given the discussions I have enjoyed here over the past few years, I am sure many of you will be interested in the content. Without question, this list has opened my eyes to some potential opportunities I would not have known about otherwise. It has also introduced me to some people who encouraged me with the endeavour, and with material. Thank you. Naturally, JtF merits a mention in the book (page 250). More information on the book is available at my Web site, at http://www.econogics.com/TENHE/ The book is available from several sources, including the following. The publisher, iUniverse (eBook) http://www.iuniverse.com/bookstore/book_detail.asp?isbn=0-595-83619-4 Trade paperback http://www.iuniverse.com/bookstore/book_detail.asp?isbn=0-595-39229-6 Amazon.com http://www.amazon.com/Emperors-New-Hydrogen-Economy/dp/0595392296/ Barnes and Noble http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbnInquiry.asp?z=yEAN=9780595392292 Chapters.Indigo.ca http://www.chapters.indigo.ca/books/item/books-978059539229/ In the event you want a signed copy, please e-mail me directly. I'm currently out of stock, but should receive more next week. -- Darryl McMahon It's your planet. If you won't look after it, who will? The Emperor's New Hydrogen Economy (now in print and eBook) http://www.econogics.com/TENHE/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Fw: Allah or Jesus?
Can I get the List's opinion on the following that was forwarded to me? I am in almost complete ignorance of the Muslim religion. Thanks. Mike DuPree - Original Message - From: "Mendoza, Ray R [NTK]" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Golf Teacher" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 2:47 PM Subject: FW: Allah or Jesus? Allah or Jesus..? Something very interesting to share with you... Rick MATHEWS is a well known leader in prison ministry. The Muslim religion in the fastest growing religion per capita in the United States, especially in the minority races!!! Allah or Jesus? By Rick Mathews Last month I attended my annual training session that's required for maintaining my state prison security clearance. During the training session there was a presentation by three speakers representing the Roman Catholic, Protestant and Muslim faiths, who explained each of their beliefs. I was particularly interested in what the Islamic Imam had to say. The Imam gave a great presentation of the basics of Islam, complete with a video. After the presentations, time was provided for questions and answers. When it was my turn, I directed my question to the Imam and asked: "Please, correct me if I'm wrong but I understand that most Imams and clerics of Islam have declared a holy jihad [Holy war] against the infidels of the world and, that by killing an infidel, (which is a command to all Muslims) they are assured of a place in heaven. If that's the CASE; can you give me the definition of an infidel?" There was no disagreement with my statements and, without hesitation, he replied, "Non-believers!" I responded, "So, let me make sure I have this straight. All followers of Allah have been commanded to kill everyone who is not of your faith so they can have a place in Heaven. Is that correct?" The _expression_ on his face changed from one of authority and command to that of "a little boy who had just been caught with his hand in the cookie jar." He sheepishly replied, "Yes". I then stated, "Well, sir, I have a real problem trying to imagine Pope John Paul commanding all Catholics to kill those of your faith or Dr. Stanley ordering all Protestants to do the same in order to guarantee them a place in Heaven!" The Imam was speechless. I continued, "I also have problem with being your 'friend' when you and your brother clerics are telling your followers to kill me! Let me ask you a question. Would you rather have your Allah, who tells you to kill me in order for you to go to Heaven, or my Jesus who tells me to love you because I am going to Heaven and He wants you to be there with me?" You could have heard a pin drop as the Imam hung his head in shame. Needless to say, the organizers and/or promoters of the 'Diversification' training seminar were not happy with Rick's way of dealing with the Islamic Imam and exposing the truth about the Muslims' beliefs. In twenty years there will be enough Muslim voters in the U.S. to elect the President! I think everyone in the US should be required to read this but with the liberal justice system, liberal media, and the ACLU, there is no way this will be widely publicized. Please pass this on to all your e-mail contacts. This is a true story and the author, Rick Mathews, is a well known leader in prison ministry. Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Allah or Jesus?
ummm... i think i might have to declare bull. isnt the original mindset of Islam peace and prosperity? i had theimpression thatjihad is supposed to bea method of self defense, not world domination and all that other super-spun crap. JasonICQ#: 154998177MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: MK DuPree To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 9:11 PM Subject: [Biofuel] Fw: Allah or Jesus? Can I get the List's opinion on the following that was forwarded to me? I am in almost complete ignorance of the Muslim religion. Thanks. Mike DuPree - Original Message - From: "Mendoza, Ray R [NTK]" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Golf Teacher" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 2:47 PM Subject: FW: Allah or Jesus? Allah or Jesus..? Something very interesting to share with you... Rick MATHEWS is a well known leader in prison ministry. The Muslim religion in the fastest growing religion per capita in the United States, especially in the minority races!!! Allah or Jesus? By Rick Mathews Last month I attended my annual training session that's required for maintaining my state prison security clearance. During the training session there was a presentation by three speakers representing the Roman Catholic, Protestant and Muslim faiths, who explained each of their beliefs. I was particularly interested in what the Islamic Imam had to say. The Imam gave a great presentation of the basics of Islam, complete with a video. After the presentations, time was provided for questions and answers. When it was my turn, I directed my question to the Imam and asked: "Please, correct me if I'm wrong but I understand that most Imams and clerics of Islam have declared a holy jihad [Holy war] against the infidels of the world and, that by killing an infidel, (which is a command to all Muslims) they are assured of a place in heaven. If that's the CASE; can you give me the definition of an infidel?" There was no disagreement with my statements and, without hesitation, he replied, "Non-believers!" I responded, "So, let me make sure I have this straight. All followers of Allah have been commanded to kill everyone who is not of your faith so they can have a place in Heaven. Is that correct?" The _expression_ on his face changed from one of authority and command to that of "a little boy who had just been caught with his hand in the cookie jar." He sheepishly replied, "Yes". I then stated, "Well, sir, I have a real problem trying to imagine Pope John Paul commanding all Catholics to kill those of your faith or Dr. Stanley ordering all Protestants to do the same in order to guarantee them a place in Heaven!" The Imam was speechless. I continued, "I also have problem with being your 'friend' when you and your brother clerics are telling your followers to kill me! Let me ask you a question. Would you rather have your Allah, who tells you to kill me in order for you to go to Heaven, or my Jesus who tells me to love you because I am going to Heaven and He wants you to be there with me?" You could have heard a pin drop as the Imam hung his head in shame. Needless to say, the organizers and/or promoters of the 'Diversification' training seminar were not happy with Rick's way of dealing with the Islamic Imam and exposing the truth about the Muslims' beliefs. In twenty years there will be enough Muslim voters in the U.S. to elect the President! I think everyone in the US should be required to read this but with the liberal justice system, liberal media, and the ACLU, there is no way this will be widely publicized. Please pass this on to all your e-mail contacts. This is a true story and the author, Rick Mathews, is a well known leader in prison ministry. Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more. ___Biofuel mailing listBiofuel@sustainablelists.orghttp://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.orgBiofuel at Journey to Forever:http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.htmlSearch the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages):http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.5/534 - Release Date: 11/14/2006 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.5/534 - Release Date: 11/14/2006 ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Allah or Jesus?
No it is pure bullshit. Check out http://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/allah.asp You can always check out lots of rumors at www.snopes2.com I get all kinds of email crap - almost all of it lies. Ollie North warned us about Osama Bin Laden, not true, liberals took the words "so help up God" off the FDR memoral, not true. Religious intolerance led both Muslims and Christians to kill millions of people. If God does exist I'm sure he is ashamed of Christians and Muslims and probably every other religion. Ken- Original Message From: MK DuPree [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: biofuel@sustainablelists.orgSent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 10:11:07 PMSubject: [Biofuel] Fw: Allah or Jesus? Can I get the List's opinion on the following that was forwarded to me? I am in almost complete ignorance of the Muslim religion. Thanks. Mike DuPree - Original Message - From: "Mendoza, Ray R [NTK]" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Golf Teacher" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 2:47 PM Subject: FW: Allah or Jesus? Allah or Jesus..? Something very interesting to share with you... Rick MATHEWS is a well known leader in prison ministry. The Muslim religion in the fastest growing religion per capita in the United States, especially in the minority races!!! Allah or Jesus? By Rick Mathews Last month I attended my annual training session that's required for maintaining my state prison security clearance. During the training session there was a presentation by three speakers representing the Roman Catholic, Protestant and Muslim faiths, who explained each of their beliefs. I was particularly interested in what the Islamic Imam had to say. The Imam gave a great presentation of the basics of Islam, complete with a video. After the presentations, time was provided for questions and answers. When it was my turn, I directed my question to the Imam and asked: "Please, correct me if I'm wrong but I understand that most Imams and clerics of Islam have declared a holy jihad [Holy war] against the infidels of the world and, that by killing an infidel, (which is a command to all Muslims) they are assured of a place in heaven. If that's the CASE; can you give me the definition of an infidel?" There was no disagreement with my statements and, without hesitation, he replied, "Non-believers!" I responded, "So, let me make sure I have this straight. All followers of Allah have been commanded to kill everyone who is not of your faith so they can have a place in Heaven. Is that correct?" The _expression_ on his face changed from one of authority and command to that of "a little boy who had just been caught with his hand in the cookie jar." He sheepishly replied, "Yes". I then stated, "Well, sir, I have a real problem trying to imagine Pope John Paul commanding all Catholics to kill those of your faith or Dr. Stanley ordering all Protestants to do the same in order to guarantee them a place in Heaven!" The Imam was speechless. I continued, "I also have problem with being your 'friend' when you and your brother clerics are telling your followers to kill me! Let me ask you a question. Would you rather have your Allah, who tells you to kill me in order for you to go to Heaven, or my Jesus who tells me to love you because I am going to Heaven and He wants you to be there with me?" You could have heard a pin drop as the Imam hung his head in shame. Needless to say, the organizers and/or promoters of the 'Diversification' training seminar were not happy with Rick's way of dealing with the Islamic Imam and exposing the truth about the Muslims' beliefs. In twenty years there will be enough Muslim voters in the U.S. to elect the President! I think everyone in the US should be required to read this but with the liberal justice system, liberal media, and the ACLU, there is no way this will be widely publicized. Please pass this on to all your e-mail contacts. This is a true story and the author, Rick Mathews, is a well known leader in prison ministry. Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more.___Biofuel mailing listBiofuel@sustainablelists.orghttp://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.orgBiofuel at Journey to Forever:http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.htmlSearch the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages):http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ Sponsored Link Degrees for working adults in as fast as 1 year. Bachelors, Masters, Associates. Top schools___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and
Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Allah or Jesus?
In my opinion, This view pointis inconsistent with the true teachings of the Koran - as I understand. Keep in mind that most Christian churches including Catholic are also inconsistent with the teachings of Christ. Organized religion of any faith breeds hatred, but consistent adherenceto fundamentals consistent with the teachings of any faithdoes not. If you look closely enough you will see that powerover others and money are the root causes of this phenomena, It is when manbecomes the middle man that things gobad. My best, Jim - Original Message - From: MK DuPree To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 8:11 PM Subject: [Biofuel] Fw: Allah or Jesus? Can I get the List's opinion on the following that was forwarded to me? I am in almost complete ignorance of the Muslim religion. Thanks. Mike DuPree - Original Message - From: "Mendoza, Ray R [NTK]" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Golf Teacher" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 2:47 PM Subject: FW: Allah or Jesus? Allah or Jesus..? Something very interesting to share with you... Rick MATHEWS is a well known leader in prison ministry. The Muslim religion in the fastest growing religion per capita in the United States, especially in the minority races!!! Allah or Jesus? By Rick Mathews Last month I attended my annual training session that's required for maintaining my state prison security clearance. During the training session there was a presentation by three speakers representing the Roman Catholic, Protestant and Muslim faiths, who explained each of their beliefs. I was particularly interested in what the Islamic Imam had to say. The Imam gave a great presentation of the basics of Islam, complete with a video. After the presentations, time was provided for questions and answers. When it was my turn, I directed my question to the Imam and asked: "Please, correct me if I'm wrong but I understand that most Imams and clerics of Islam have declared a holy jihad [Holy war] against the infidels of the world and, that by killing an infidel, (which is a command to all Muslims) they are assured of a place in heaven. If that's the CASE; can you give me the definition of an infidel?" There was no disagreement with my statements and, without hesitation, he replied, "Non-believers!" I responded, "So, let me make sure I have this straight. All followers of Allah have been commanded to kill everyone who is not of your faith so they can have a place in Heaven. Is that correct?" The _expression_ on his face changed from one of authority and command to that of "a little boy who had just been caught with his hand in the cookie jar." He sheepishly replied, "Yes". I then stated, "Well, sir, I have a real problem trying to imagine Pope John Paul commanding all Catholics to kill those of your faith or Dr. Stanley ordering all Protestants to do the same in order to guarantee them a place in Heaven!" The Imam was speechless. I continued, "I also have problem with being your 'friend' when you and your brother clerics are telling your followers to kill me! Let me ask you a question. Would you rather have your Allah, who tells you to kill me in order for you to go to Heaven, or my Jesus who tells me to love you because I am going to Heaven and He wants you to be there with me?" You could have heard a pin drop as the Imam hung his head in shame. Needless to say, the organizers and/or promoters of the 'Diversification' training seminar were not happy with Rick's way of dealing with the Islamic Imam and exposing the truth about the Muslims' beliefs. In twenty years there will be enough Muslim voters in the U.S. to elect the President! I think everyone in the US should be required to read this but with the liberal justice system, liberal media, and the ACLU, there is no way this will be widely publicized. Please pass this on to all your e-mail contacts. This is a true story and the author, Rick Mathews, is a well known leader in prison ministry. Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more. ___Biofuel mailing listBiofuel@sustainablelists.orghttp://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.orgBiofuel at Journey to Forever:http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.htmlSearch the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages):http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever:
Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Allah or Jesus?
MK DuPree wrote: Can I get the List's opinion on the following that was forwarded to me? I am in almost complete ignorance of the Muslim religion. Thanks. Mike DuPree This is nothing more than a means to stir up fear. Key terms, like "liberal media" and "ACLU" are inserted to elicit an uncritical response among the "faithful", and whenever you read tripe like this, rest assured that a LOT of people believe it because it's exactly what they WANT to believe. By the way, Arabic Christians and some Jews refer to God as Allah. There is a concerted effort among certain Christian groups to associate Allah with a regional, pagan deity, but the truth is, "Allah" means "God" in Arabic. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allah robert luis rabello "The Edge of Justice" Adventure for Your Mind http://www.newadventure.ca Ranger Supercharger Project Page http://www.members.shaw.ca/rabello/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Allah or Jesus?
Hmm?I believewhat that Imamsaid does not represent the trueMuslim religion. I lived ina country where the majority are muslim so I met many believers. I never studiedMuslim personally; I was in Catholic school for 6 years and Protestan for another 6 years. Imo, Roman Catolic, Protestan, Muslim are pretty much the same. The major difference is how they achieve their final targets. The moral teachings are the same. "Do not do to others whatwe dont want to do to ourselves" ---All 4 religions that I know also have this passage but in their own versions. About theholy jihad... it's the same asthe Crusadesof medieval times. It's ironic thatreligions, whichare created to bring salvation, compassion to humanity, actually createswars.Religion's fault? I dont think so. We cannot judge a religion based on what some of the believers did. It's the same as everything, religion is just a guide; the actions, theinterpretations, all depends on the people themselves. Lesson to learn here: We need to be very careful when studying religion,dont be arrogant,dont be conceited, and think the deep meanings inside the teachings, not just memorizing word by words (We are much better than computer).Then we could conclude,practice them in our life andreduce the possibilities of misinterpretation/misleading. Bottomline, eliminate the word "I". Note: Sry for my poor english.. _. Hope it's still readable. Thanks. Richard From: "MK DuPree" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.orgTo: biofuel@sustainablelists.orgSubject: [Biofuel] Fw: Allah or Jesus?Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 21:11:07 -0600 Can I get the List's opinion on the following that was forwarded to me? I am in almost complete ignorance of the Muslim religion. Thanks. Mike DuPree - Original Message - From: "Mendoza, Ray R [NTK]" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Golf Teacher" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 2:47 PM Subject: FW: Allah or Jesus? Allah or Jesus..? Something very interesting to share with you... Rick MATHEWS is a well known leader in prison ministry. The Muslim religion in the fastest growing religion per capita in the United States, especially in the minority races!!! Allah or Jesus? By Rick Mathews Last month I attended my annual training session that's required for maintaining my state prison security clearance. During the training session there was a presentation by three speakers representing the Roman Catholic, Protestant and Muslim faiths, who explained each of their beliefs. I was particularly interested in what the Islamic Imam had to say. The Imam gave a great presentation of the basics of Islam, complete with a video. After the presentations, time was provided for questions and answers. When it was my turn, I directed my question to the Imam and asked: "Please, correct me if I'm wrong but I understand that most Imams and clerics of Islam have declared a holy jihad [Holy war] against the infidels of the world and, that by killing an infidel, (which is a command to all Muslims) they are assured of a place in heaven. If that's the CASE; can you give me the definition of an infidel?" There was no disagreement with my statements and, without hesitation, he replied, "Non-believers!" I responded, "So, let me make sure I have this straight. All followers of Allah have been commanded to kill everyone who is not of your faith so they can have a place in Heaven. Is that correct?" The _expression_ on his face changed from one of authority and command to that of "a little boy who had just been caught with his hand in the cookie jar." He sheepishly replied, "Yes". I then stated, "Well, sir, I have a real problem trying to imagine Pope John Paul commanding all Catholics to kill those of your faith or Dr. Stanley ordering all Protestants to do the same in order to guarantee them a place in Heaven!" The Imam was speechless. I continued, "I also have problem with being your 'friend' when you and your brother clerics are telling your followers to kill me! Let me ask you a question. Would you rather have your Allah, who tells you to kill me in order for you to go to Heaven, or my Jesus who tells me to love you because I am going to Heaven and He wants you to be there with me?" You could have heard a pin drop as the Imam hung his head in shame. Needless to say, the organizers and/or promoters of the 'Diversification' training seminar were not happy with Rick's way of dealing with the Islamic Imam and exposing the truth about the Muslims' beliefs. In twenty years there will be enough Muslim voters in the U.S. to elect the President! I think everyone in the US should be required to read this but with the liberal justice system, liberal media, and the ACLU, there is no way this will be widely publicized. Please pass this on to all your e-mail contacts. This is a true story and the author, Rick Mathews, is a well known leader in prison ministry. Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools,
Re: [Biofuel] FDA sued over mercury in medicines
Hi, the more I hear about the 'FREE' Trade agreement our illustrious PM organised with the yanks, the more I have to agree with you. We did not get as good a deal as the Mexicans or Canadians! ( they are complaining). Once we get a 'real' Australian Government in power, at least we can tear up that agreement with 6 months notice. (We need Green Power I think: the other bunch of turkeys are just as bad as the conservatives!) regards Doug On Wednesday 15 November 2006 9:53, leo bunyan wrote: Amerians arn't the only naive people on the planet Australians are doing a good job of being just as if not more naive Something we seem to be proud of Sigh Sigh Leo Kirk McLoren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FDA is the enforcement arm of the AMA. They take care of the competition. The public be damned. Americans have to be the most naive people in the western world. Sigh Kirk D. Mindock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wonder how the FDA will wiggle out of this lawsuit. Peace, D. Mindock --- --- http://www.aapsonline.org/nod/newsofday357.php News of the Day ... In Perspective11/13/2006 FDA sued over mercury in medicines On Oct 27, the Coalition for Mercury-free Drugs (CoMeD) filed an amended complaint in U.S. federal court, disputing a Sept 26 FDA response defending the use of mercury in medications. The lawsuit, originally filed in August 2006, asks the court to force the FDA to comply with existing law and regulations and provide proof of the safety and efficacy of mercury in drugs. The suit was filed because the FDA failed to answer issues raised in a citizen petition filed on Aug 4, 2004, by CoMeD representatives. Mercury is found in at least 45 different prescribed or over-the-counter drugs, including eye ointments, nasal sprays, and vaccines, most importantly, flu vaccines administered to children and pregnant women. In a 1999 internal email, obtained under a Freedom of Information Act request, an FDA official wrote that the agencys failure to evaluate the cumulative amount of mercury in medicine will raise questions about FDA being asleep at the switch for decades by allowing a potentially hazardous compound to remain and not forcing manufacturers to exclude it from new products . In a second email, the same official wrote: the greatest point of vulnerability on this issue is that the systematic review by the FDA could have been done years ago and on an ongoing basis. In a letter by FDA Acting Assistant Commissioner for Policy Jeffrey Shuren, denying the CoMeD petition, the admission that the FDA had no substantive evidence confirming the safety of mercury in medicine was stunning, stated CoMeD. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ - Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta.___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Allah or Jesus?
http://www.pbs.org/empires/islam/faithpeople.html Muslims believe that God had previously revealed Himself to the earlier prophets of the Jews and Christians, such as Abraham, Moses, and Jesus. Muslims therefore accept the teachings of both the Jewish Torah and the Christian Gospels. They believe that Islam is the perfection of the religion revealed first to Abraham (who is considered the first Muslim) and later to other prophets. Muslims believe that Jews and Christians have strayed from God's true faith but hold them in higher esteem than pagans and unbelievers. They call Jews and Christians the "People of the Book" and allow them to practice their own religions. Muslims believe that Muhammad is the "seal of the prophecy," by which they mean that he is the last in the series of prophets God sent to mankind. Muslims abhor the followers of later prophets. This attitude serves to explain the extreme Muslim animosity toward Bahais, followers of a nineteenth-century prophet, who in the Muslim mind is false. JAMES PHELPS [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:In my opinion, This view pointis inconsistent with the true teachings of the Koran - as I understand. Keep in mind that most Christian churches including Catholic are also inconsistent with the teachings of Christ. Organized religion of any faith breeds hatred, but consistent adherenceto fundamentals consistent with the teachings of any faithdoes not. If you look closely enough you will see that powerover others and money are the root causes of this phenomena, It is when manbecomes the middle man that things gobad.My best, Jim- Original Message - From: MK DuPree To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 8:11 PM Subject: [Biofuel] Fw: Allah or Jesus?Can I get the List's opinion on the following that was forwarded to me? I am in almost complete ignorance of the Muslim religion. Thanks. Mike DuPree- Original Message - From: "Mendoza, Ray R [NTK]" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Golf Teacher" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 2:47 PM Subject: FW: Allah or Jesus? Allah or Jesus..? Something very interesting to share with you... Rick MATHEWS is a well known leader in prison ministry. The Muslim religion in the fastest growing religion per capita in the United States, especially in the minority races!!! Allah or Jesus? By Rick Mathews Last month I attended my annual training session that's required for maintaining my state prison security clearance. During the training session there was a presentation by three speakers representing the Roman Catholic, Protestant and Muslim faiths, who explained each of their beliefs. I was particularly interested in what the Islamic Imam had to say. The Imam gave a great presentation of the basics of Islam, complete with a video. After the presentations, time was provided for questions and answers. When it was my turn, I directed my question to the Imam and asked: "Please, correct me if I'm wrong but I understand that most Imams and clerics of Islam have declared a holy jihad [Holy war] against the infidels of the world and, that by killing an infidel, (which is a command to all Muslims) they are assured of a place in heaven. If that's the CASE; can you give me the definition of an infidel?" There was no disagreement with my statements and, without hesitation, he replied, "Non-believers!" I responded, "So, let me make sure I have this straight. All followers of Allah have been commanded to kill everyone who is not of your faith so they can have a place in Heaven. Is that correct?" The _expression_ on his face changed from one of authority and command to that of "a little boy who had just been caught with his hand in the cookie jar." He sheepishly replied, "Yes". I then stated, "Well, sir, I have a real problem trying to imagine Pope John Paul commanding all Catholics to kill those of your faith or Dr. Stanley ordering all Protestants to do the same in order to guarantee them a place in Heaven!" The Imam was speechless. I continued, "I also have problem with being your 'friend' when you and your brother clerics are telling your followers to kill me! Let me ask you a question. Would you rather have your Allah, who tells you to kill me in order for you to go to Heaven, or my Jesus who tells me to love you because I am going to Heaven and He wants you to be there with me?" You could have heard a pin drop as the Imam hung his head in shame. Needless to say, the organizers and/or promoters of the 'Diversification' training seminar were not happy with Rick's way of dealing with the Islamic Imam and exposing the truth about the Muslims' beliefs. In twenty years there will be enough Muslim voters in the U.S. to elect the President! I think everyone in the US should be required to read this but with the liberal justice system, liberal media, and the ACLU, there is no way this will be widely publicized. Please pass this on to all your
