Re: [Biofuel] The Death of a Compost Bin
Hi Robert, I have two bins at the moment. The first is the plastic high tech made from recycled bottles. The second is ultra low tech. A big cardboard box. Of the two I like the box better right now. That might change. I like the idea that when the box cannot be used for a composter I can compost it. fred On 12/9/06, Tom Irwin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Robert, I use wood posts stacked like a log cabin. It´s open on one side. I don´t use treated wood anywhere. So avoid that poison. If the wood rots in time I replace it. Tom Irwin -- From: *robert and benita rabello [EMAIL PROTECTED]* Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: *[Biofuel] The Death of a Compost Bin* Date: *Fri, 08 Dec 2006 17:01:49 -0800* Although I don't do all of my composting in a bin, nearly all of our household table scraps and the entire collection of waste from our bunny cage went into a black plastic compost bin. Please note the past tense verb . . . About a week or so ago, we had a blast of arctic air sweep through this area. Temperatures plummeted and with the outflow winds howling out of the east, windchills of -20 C lasted for two or three days. (I know that some of you further east will probably laugh at this, but for those of us who live near the ocean, -20 is pretty cold!) The moisture in my compost bin expanded as it froze, literally warping or shattering the plastic bin. The whole thing actually fell over this morning. I went out to clean up the mess and found the top third of the contents completely preserved and uncomposted (big surprise, it's been cold, right?), the middle third consisted of a singular mass of partially composted, frozen material, while the bottom third remained warm enough to keep on decomposing. But the composter is toast. I'll have to construct another one because I'm NOT going to use plastic again . . . What do the rest of you use for compost bin construction material? robert luis rabello The Edge of Justice The Long Journey New Adventure for Your Mind http://www.newadventure.ca Ranger Supercharger Project Pagehttp://www.members.shaw.ca/rabello/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ -- Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! MSN Messengerhttp://g.msn.com/8HMBEN/2728??PS=47575Download today it's FREE! ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] The Death of a Compost Bin
Hello Robert, I use wood posts stacked like a log cabin. It´s open on one side. I don´t use treated wood anywhere. So avoid that poison. If the wood rots in time I replace it. Tom Irwin From: robert and benita rabello [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.orgTo: biofuel@sustainablelists.orgSubject: [Biofuel] The Death of a Compost BinDate: Fri, 08 Dec 2006 17:01:49 -0800 Although I don't do all of my composting in a bin, nearly all of our household table scraps and the entire collection of waste from our bunny cage went into a black plastic compost bin. Please note the past tense verb . . .About a week or so ago, we had a blast of arctic air sweep through this area. Temperatures plummeted and with the outflow winds howling out of the east, windchills of -20 C lasted for two or three days. (I know that some of you further east will probably laugh at this, but for those of us who live near the ocean, -20 is pretty cold!) The moisture in my compost bin expanded as it froze, literally warping or shattering the plastic bin.The whole thing actually fell over this morning. I went out to clean up the mess and found the top third of the contents completely preserved and uncomposted (big surprise, it's been cold, right?), the middle third consisted of a singular mass of partially composted, frozen material, while the bottom third remained warm enough to keep on decomposing.But the composter is toast. I'll have to construct another one because I'm NOT going to use plastic again . . . What do the rest of you use for compost bin construction material? robert luis rabello "The Edge of Justice" "The Long Journey" New Adventure for Your Mind http://www.newadventure.ca Ranger Supercharger Project Page http://www.members.shaw.ca/rabello/ ___Biofuel mailing listBiofuel@sustainablelists.orghttp://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.orgBiofuel at Journey to Forever:http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.htmlSearch the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages):http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! MSN Messenger Download today it's FREE! ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] The Death of a Compost Bin
Pallets are particularly useful. Usually you can pick up 3 for free and either have an open side or I had some leftover window screen, which allows air flow. Also, if you have room you can get 5 pallets and make a double bin...using a UU shape. On 12/9/06, Tom Irwin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Robert, I use wood posts stacked like a log cabin. It´s open on one side. I don´t use treated wood anywhere. So avoid that poison. If the wood rots in time I replace it. Tom Irwin -- From: *robert and benita rabello [EMAIL PROTECTED]* Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: *[Biofuel] The Death of a Compost Bin* Date: *Fri, 08 Dec 2006 17:01:49 -0800* Although I don't do all of my composting in a bin, nearly all of our household table scraps and the entire collection of waste from our bunny cage went into a black plastic compost bin. Please note the past tense verb . . . About a week or so ago, we had a blast of arctic air sweep through this area. Temperatures plummeted and with the outflow winds howling out of the east, windchills of -20 C lasted for two or three days. (I know that some of you further east will probably laugh at this, but for those of us who live near the ocean, -20 is pretty cold!) The moisture in my compost bin expanded as it froze, literally warping or shattering the plastic bin. The whole thing actually fell over this morning. I went out to clean up the mess and found the top third of the contents completely preserved and uncomposted (big surprise, it's been cold, right?), the middle third consisted of a singular mass of partially composted, frozen material, while the bottom third remained warm enough to keep on decomposing. But the composter is toast. I'll have to construct another one because I'm NOT going to use plastic again . . . What do the rest of you use for compost bin construction material? robert luis rabello The Edge of Justice The Long Journey New Adventure for Your Mind http://www.newadventure.ca Ranger Supercharger Project Pagehttp://www.members.shaw.ca/rabello/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ -- Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! MSN Messengerhttp://g.msn.com/8HMBEN/2728??PS=47575Download today it's FREE! ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ -- Thanks, PC He's the kind of a guy who lights up a room just by flicking a switch It's a small world, but I wouldn't want to paint it. - Steven Wright We are confronted with insurmountable opportunities. - Walt Kelly ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] REPORTED CURES WITH OIL PULLING
I've just started to use it for my periodontal disease. It really seems to be effective. And it's so simple. I use sesame oil for the minimum 10 minutes. Peace, D. Mindock === REPORTED CURES WITH OIL PULLING Mouth Gum Disease; Stiff Joints; Allergies; Asthma; High Blood Sugar; Constipation; Migraines; Bronchitis; Eczema; Heart, Kidney, Lung Diseases; Leukemia; Arthritis; Meningitis; Insomnia; Menopause (hormonal issues); Cancer; AIDS; Chronic Infections; Varicose Veins; High Blood Pressure; Diabetes; Polio; Cracked Heels. Here's are a few paragraphs from Bharat Savur's article on The Hindu Business Online ...When Dr Karsch examined the gargled milk-white oil under a microscope with 600 magnification, he saw live organisms swimming in it. It's poisonous, so never swallow it, he warns. These poisons are bacteria-embryos, which, if not eliminated, cause diseases. Apparently, Dr Karsch cured his own chronic blood disease and 15-year-old arthritis. The first sign of improvement is in the teeth-they become firm and white, he says. Other healing indications: fresh, relaxed feeling on waking up, disappearing dark pouches below the eyes, anew appetite and energy, better memory and deep sleep. Dr Karsch swears by the mouth oil-wash for anything from organ-disorders, skin-diseases, menstrual problems, paralysis to every ache and it is in the human anatomy. You can gargle even when you have fever, he says, adding, it takes anything from two days to a year to cure a disease. And if these claims sound exaggerated, he told a conference of Ukrainian cancer specialists, try out the process yourself. Interestingly, Ayurveda advises oil gargling to purify the taste-buds and the entire system, as explained by Dr Deepak Chopra in Perfect Health. According to this life science, the tongue is mapped by organ-locations - that is, each section of the tongue is connected to the kidneys, lungs, spleen, liver, heart, pancreas, small intestines, stomach, colon, and spine. Thus, an oil-mouth-massage soothes and stimulates the key meridians where taste meets organ. Simultaneously, as in any skin-massage, the inner skin and lining of the mouth, palate and tongue become warm and supple and the lubrication prevents dryness (the vatic effect). In modern dietetics too, dryness is discussed. For example, lack of Vitamin A (retinal) causes the outer lining of the eyeball to dry and wrinkle, and affects vision. And as any dietician would tell you, all oils contain 960 micrograms of vitamin A per 10 gm (the recommended daily allowance of vitamin A per adult is 600 micrograms). So, it's possible that oil gargling helps in reaching the required retinal to the eyeballs and keeps them elastic and smooth. Likewise, the Ayurvedic `purification of taste-buds' also has its equivalent in dietetics as `antioxidants'. Oxidation literally means `the putrefaction of body-tissues'. And oil-soluble vitamins, A, C, D, and E are antioxidants that protect and prevent the decaying process and help maintain the integral functioning of cell membranes. That's why, many people are ingesting vitamin E pills to stem `aging' (oxidation). Click here to read the rest of this excellent article in its entirety. OIL PULLING INSTRUCTIONS: First thing in the morning, after brushing your teeth but before eating or drinking, take 1 TBSP of either sesame or sunflower oil. Put the oil in your mouth, tilt your chin up and slowly swish, suck, chomp and pull through the teeth. Do this for at least 10 minutes. 15 - 20 minutes is better. You want the oil to become a thin, white foam when you finally spit it out. If it's still yellow, you haven't done it long enough. You can do this 2 more times during the day if you want to detox faster. Make sure you do it on an empty stomach, however. Spit it out in the toilet when your mouth is full and rinse your mouth out well. Follow with 2 - 3 glasses of water. DO NOT SWALLOW THE OIL! It now contains parasites and bacteria! DO NOT GARGLE IN THE THROAT! DO IT SLOWLY! HOW IT WORKS: The oil pulls all mucous, bacteria and toxins from your body through your saliva. According to Ayurvedic medicine, mucous is a poison that must be removed. Note #1: Keeping the chin tilted up makes sure the oil gets to the back molars. Note #2: Only sesame and sunflower oils produce favorable results. Note #3: If after meals, wait at least 4 hours before you Oil Pull. After drinking, wait 1 hour. Note #4: A worsening of symptoms is an excellent indication that the disease/ailment is being cured. Note #5: Do not stop Oil Pulling if you feel aggravated symptoms or heightened side effects. Your body is healing. Excellent Links for More Information: http://www.oilpulling.com/opuniversalremedy.pdf http://www.oilpulling.com/PULLING%20OIL_karacharticle.pdf PULLING OIL (The Oil Treatment of Dr. Karach) Dr.med. Karach spoke about a remarkable
Re: [Biofuel] The Death of a Compost Bin
If you have the room, you can create a square with bales of hay which contribute to the process as they also decompose. They will expand and contract with changing temperatures. On 12/8/06, Jason Katie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i suggest a steel drum on a hand dolly. Jason ICQ#: 154998177 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - *From:* robert and benita rabello [EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* biofuel@sustainablelists.org *Sent:* Friday, December 08, 2006 7:01 PM *Subject:* [Biofuel] The Death of a Compost Bin Although I don't do all of my composting in a bin, nearly all of our household table scraps and the entire collection of waste from our bunny cage went into a black plastic compost bin. Please note the past tense verb . . . About a week or so ago, we had a blast of arctic air sweep through this area. Temperatures plummeted and with the outflow winds howling out of the east, windchills of -20 C lasted for two or three days. (I know that some of you further east will probably laugh at this, but for those of us who live near the ocean, -20 is pretty cold!) The moisture in my compost bin expanded as it froze, literally warping or shattering the plastic bin. The whole thing actually fell over this morning. I went out to clean up the mess and found the top third of the contents completely preserved and uncomposted (big surprise, it's been cold, right?), the middle third consisted of a singular mass of partially composted, frozen material, while the bottom third remained warm enough to keep on decomposing. But the composter is toast. I'll have to construct another one because I'm NOT going to use plastic again . . . What do the rest of you use for compost bin construction material? robert luis rabello The Edge of Justice The Long Journey New Adventure for Your Mindhttp://www.newadventure.ca Ranger Supercharger Project Pagehttp://www.members.shaw.ca/rabello/ -- ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.431 / Virus Database: 268.15.15/580 - Release Date: 12/8/2006 12:53 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.431 / Virus Database: 268.15.15/580 - Release Date: 12/8/2006 12:53 PM ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] How to Hedge
Sometimes things do take several years to accomplish. I would start working towards your goal of owning land now, with a possible realization in 5 or 10 years. It may seem far away now, but imagine if you had started 5 or 10 years ago. You would be there today. Patience and persistence. On 12/7/06, Jason Katie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: family farming and barter. you could also try asking your neighbors if you can borrow a corner of their yards in trade for a supply of vegetables. people need food, and they most likely would be willing to give you needed supplies or help with work in trade for it. i say start stockpiling preserves and canning vegetables, food is money. Jason ICQ#: 154998177 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: DHAJOGLO [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2006 4:58 PM Subject: [Biofuel] How to Hedge As I watch and learn it's interesting to note that hedging against an economic collapse is a difficult thing. For instance, I don't own land that I can use to plant crops, raise live stock, and generally subside on. Further, in order to get such land I either have to wait several years to save enough money or go into debt. Normally, a small amount of debt would not be of concern. But when an economy collapses, debt is one of the biggest concerns. So how does one hedge without going into debt? I posit that co-ops are an option but they too become vulnerable in a depression. Any ideas? -dave On Wednesday, December 06, 2006 9:27 PM, Kirk McLoren wrote: Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 19:27:54 -0800 (PST) From: Kirk McLoren To: biofuel Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: [Biofuel] solar cell achieves 40.7% conversion efficiency http://hardware.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/12/06/027228 ...with DOE funding, a concentrator solar cell produced by Boeing-Spectrolab has recently achieved a world-record conversion efficiency of 40.7 percent, establishing a new milestone in sunlight-to-electricity performance. - Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.431 / Virus Database: 268.15.14/578 - Release Date: 12/7/2006 1:27 AM -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.431 / Virus Database: 268.15.14/578 - Release Date: 12/7/2006 1:27 AM ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Oil Pricing
Jason, I'm not sure I understand is it wise to try and save the dollar (USD I assume). The point of my post was that we generally do nothing when the USD devaluates other than make what appear to us to be the best purchasing moves. ex I see the beer I like selling at $10 (USD) for a 6 pack. I see another beer I also like for $5 for a 6 pack. I choose the less expensive of the two. (This applies to other products as well, and becomes more significant when money is tight.) On the other side of the pond, American made goods are less expensive, and therefore may be more attractive, than European made. Increased production/jobs, etc in US, more balance in trade USD restored. Former Fed Chair Alan Greenspan was accused of neglect for not doing anything when the USD dropped to it's lowest point vs the Euro (Dec 2004) He simply allowed homeostatic mechanisms to restore balance. . This is why China resists inflating the value of their currency (yuan) despite the urging of the rest of the world. China can maintain a very favorable balance of trade exports exceed imports, production is high, jobs for an enormous workforce, etc. If the US economy does take a huge hit . who stands to suffer most here in the US? The rich?? The power people who put us in the mess we're in?? Come on, we both know the answer to the question. Bring it on, I'm ready No thanks, unless you can tell me how we feed a few million more hungry children. Just my thoughts, Tom - Original Message - From: Jason Katie To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 10:00 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Oil Pricing is it wise to try and save the dollar? sometimes the best (and only) way to learn is from your mistakes... Jason ICQ#: 154998177 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Kirk McLoren To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 6:38 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Oil Pricing In an effort to help restore balance to our balance of trade, and thereby bouy the falling USD, I crossed Pauli Girl Dark off my shopping list and invested in a 12 pack of Yuengling's Original Black and Tan. --- Hear Hear Kirk Thomas Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mike, I have my own concerns regarding the US economy . debt, trade deficit, housing market how it is being financed, etc etc. What measures madmen with power will use to protect us. I follow currencies as I follow species of organisms as indicators of economic/environmental woes. Just as our environment has been signaling us about problems (for some time now) I think we are getting some real serious signals regarding our economy. For info re: currency pairs what has happened, upcoming news drivers, predictions, etc. there are websites such as www.dailyfx.com The Non-Farm Payroll (NFP) numbers come out today. It is one of the major factors that will effect the USD no mention of any Iranian switch to Euros, or the impact it has had/is having on USD. Just my thoughts: If the spike in EUR/USD to 133 (Thanksgiving weekend) was due to expectations of a switch by Iran from USD to EUR for oil purchase, and a return to 133 (12/6/06) occurred on the actual news of the switch, the switch apparently had very little impact on the strength of the dollar. I would have expected much more. Let's take a short walk through the recent past: Almost 2 years ago End of Dec 2004 (12/29 -12/31): EUR/USD = 1.36+ (highest that I know of...speculation we may hit 1.37 by June) GBP/USD = approaching 1.9200 USD/JPY = ~103 End of March 2005 (just 3 months later) EUR/USD = 1.3200 (-2.9%) GBP/USD = 1.8911 (-1.5%) USD/JPY = 106.80 (+3.7%) (USD is gaining strength against each of the 3 currencies) End of June 2005 (another 3 months) EUR/USD = ~1.2100 (-8.3%) GBP/USD = 1.8095(-4.3%) USD/JPY = 110.66 (+3.8%) (USD continues to gain strength) In 6 months there were significant reversals in these three currency pairs. Why? 1. At 1.36+ European goods become far less attractive to US consumers. (On a personal note: As I saw the price of imported beer go from $6/6 pack to $7, to $8, to $9, and even $10/6 pack I re-discovered Miller Brewery (Milwaukee, WI, USA) and Yuengling's Brewery (Pottsville, PA, USA). US goods appear more attractive to European and British consumers. Exchange rates effect tourism as well. This effects Balance of Trade. It was in either Feb or March of 2005 that the USD gained strength simple because the trade deficit was predicted to be only $65 billion
Re: [Biofuel] Oil Pricing
the whole point behind my argument is that the little guy has the ability to learn and adapt fairly quickly, but the fat rich are so hung up on their dollars that when a loaf of bread costs 25 bucks and they only have a few hundred thousand in fluid assets it burns up pretty fast (imagine what everything else would cost if bread is 25$ a loaf). i contend that when the crap flies it will be the little guy that adapts to survive and starts providing for himself, and the fat man that starves because he cant keep up. Jason ICQ#: 154998177 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Thomas Kelly To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2006 12:28 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Oil Pricing Jason, I'm not sure I understand is it wise to try and save the dollar (USD I assume). The point of my post was that we generally do nothing when the USD devaluates other than make what appear to us to be the best purchasing moves. ex I see the beer I like selling at $10 (USD) for a 6 pack. I see another beer I also like for $5 for a 6 pack. I choose the less expensive of the two. (This applies to other products as well, and becomes more significant when money is tight.) On the other side of the pond, American made goods are less expensive, and therefore may be more attractive, than European made. Increased production/jobs, etc in US, more balance in trade USD restored. Former Fed Chair Alan Greenspan was accused of neglect for not doing anything when the USD dropped to it's lowest point vs the Euro (Dec 2004) He simply allowed homeostatic mechanisms to restore balance. . This is why China resists inflating the value of their currency (yuan) despite the urging of the rest of the world. China can maintain a very favorable balance of trade exports exceed imports, production is high, jobs for an enormous workforce, etc. If the US economy does take a huge hit . who stands to suffer most here in the US? The rich?? The power people who put us in the mess we're in?? Come on, we both know the answer to the question. Bring it on, I'm ready No thanks, unless you can tell me how we feed a few million more hungry children. Just my thoughts, Tom - Original Message - From: Jason Katie To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 10:00 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Oil Pricing is it wise to try and save the dollar? sometimes the best (and only) way to learn is from your mistakes... Jason ICQ#: 154998177 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Kirk McLoren To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 6:38 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Oil Pricing In an effort to help restore balance to our balance of trade, and thereby bouy the falling USD, I crossed Pauli Girl Dark off my shopping list and invested in a 12 pack of Yuengling's Original Black and Tan. --- Hear Hear Kirk Thomas Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mike, I have my own concerns regarding the US economy . debt, trade deficit, housing market how it is being financed, etc etc. What measures madmen with power will use to protect us. I follow currencies as I follow species of organisms as indicators of economic/environmental woes. Just as our environment has been signaling us about problems (for some time now) I think we are getting some real serious signals regarding our economy. For info re: currency pairs what has happened, upcoming news drivers, predictions, etc. there are websites such as www.dailyfx.com The Non-Farm Payroll (NFP) numbers come out today. It is one of the major factors that will effect the USD no mention of any Iranian switch to Euros, or the impact it has had/is having on USD. Just my thoughts: If the spike in EUR/USD to 133 (Thanksgiving weekend) was due to expectations of a switch by Iran from USD to EUR for oil purchase, and a return to 133 (12/6/06) occurred on the actual news of the switch, the switch apparently had very little impact on the strength of the dollar. I would have expected much more. Let's take a short walk through the recent past: Almost 2 years ago End of Dec 2004 (12/29 -12/31): EUR/USD = 1.36+ (highest that I know of...speculation we may hit 1.37 by June) GBP/USD = approaching 1.9200 USD/JPY = ~103 End of March 2005 (just 3 months later) EUR/USD = 1.3200 (-2.9%) GBP/USD = 1.8911 (-1.5%) USD/JPY = 106.80 (+3.7%) (USD is gaining strength against each of the 3 currencies) End of June 2005 (another 3 months)
[Biofuel] Group proposing ethanol plant gets cash from feds - Simcoe Reformer - 2006.12.06
Group proposing ethanol plant gets cash from feds; It's Another Small Step, but Well-Timed, Ceo Says Byline: BY STEPHANIE MACLELLAN, SIMCOE REFORMER A new influx of government funding will go a long way to help a Tillsonburg-based ethanol co-op get off the ground, the group's CEO said. The Canadian Sweet Potato Ethanol Alliance co-operative was one of eight farmer-owned co-ops chosen for the first round of funding from the Agricultural Co-operative Development Initiative, and the only one from Ontario. The sweet potato group received $40,000 to help it develop an offering statement, which it needs to seek additional funding from the public. It's not a lot of money, but it's well-timed, said CEO Berry Murray. It's a pretty tough struggle to get a co-op organized. There's not a lot of money out there for co-ops. The group plans to use the funding to bring in consultants to help develop the offering statement. They have already completed market research, business plan development and other work in the two years since the group formed, Murray said. The co-op hopes to build a $150-million plant near Tillsonburg that will process sweet potatoes, millet and sorghum into ethanol. Murray said the initial offering statement will only cover the first stage of the project, which will be to secure the property where the plant will be built. About 300 farm families belong to the co-op so far, he said. The group can't continue seeking members or funds until the offering statement is complete because of government restrictions. The sweet potato group also received $5,000 for learning exchanges, where the group's directors can meet with other co-ops to share their experience and strategies. Anything that can give directors more tools to assess problems, and put problems in the proper perspective, is a good thing, Murray said. The federal government program funds farmers and rural communities looking to develop co-ops for biofuel and other ventures. Murray said government support for co-ops is essential if home-grown Canadian biofuel companies are to compete against international fuel companies. Through a co-op, there's an opportunity to work collectively and draw on the talent in a community and seek out a supply, Murray said. I think that's a healthy thing, especially if you want rural communities to benefit. -- Darryl McMahon It's your planet. If you won't look after it, who will? The Emperor's New Hydrogen Economy (now in print and eBook) http://www.econogics.com/TENHE/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Oil Pricing
Tom...good info. I've been trying to learn how to trade foreign currency since May of this year, as much because of what I believe is coming (soon) for the US economy and if I could learn to do it successfully it would be a way for me to help my family through what I perceive to be these coming difficulties in the U.S. Not sure if this makes me a bum as far as the List is concerned, but it's what I'm doing. Anyway, because of what I've been learning since May, I certainly have to agree with what you have written for as far as it goes. You offer a positive spin on a declining US$ and I thank you for that. There is definitely that side to a declining US$. However, since I'm no economist and I can't even begin to be able to completely think this through, I find it difficult to believe that if the world beyond the US finds a way to buy oil in Euros this will only add to the rug that is being pulled out from under the US economy. Oil runs the world, whether we here on the List want to admit that or not, it does. In fact, I wonder if a recent decision to increase the US Strategic Petroleum Reserve isn't at least in part in response to what may be the trend to trade oil in Euros. See this link: http://english.people.com.cn//200612/09/eng20061209_330509.html A cursory Google search of US oil consumption puts us at around 20 million barrels per day as of November 2002. See: http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Oil_watch/World_Oil%20_Table.html So let's see, 1 Billion divided by 20 million...oops...50 days worth of fuel source??? Hey, that's plenty of time to develop alternative energy sources and the vehicles and distribution systems that will use those sources! Keep in mind too that the US$ began it's present leg to a longer term decline in February of this year, with the whole month of April and recently late October through til now being the steepest declines from February til now. Do these dates have anything to do with the Iranian oil bourse...originally scheduled to open in March? It wasn't. Then it was thought to be opened in May, thus the further runup of the Euro against the US$ in April, but again, no opening. Throughout the summer months EUR/USD channeled up and down. Then just before Thanksgiving a huge spike up of the Euro against the US$, which was a continuation of a trend around the end of October. Now recently an announcement on CNBC of Iran having completed their planned oil bourse. I'm presently trying to find this confirmation through internet searches, but so far no luck. But all I can tell you is that Mark Haines (I spelled his name with a y originally...sorry Mark) publicly stated in a kind of conversation with his co-show host Erin Burnett that it is now confirmed that Iran is trading its' oil in Euros. This is huge news, but as I mentioned in my first post of this thread, how much of the news that really matters gets broadcast? Nonetheless, the information is there. Keep in mind the FX (foreign exchange) market is the largest market on the planet, trading up to over $3 trillion at any given time. It is also a market that must exist to allow countries to do business with each other. Consequently, the major players are not the many amoebas like me, but central banks and multinational corporations...as usual. Do you think these folks know what's going on? Of course you do. These folks are the ones who not only know what's going on, they are making what's going on. So I would suggest, if trading oil in Euros has been established and Iran is able to defend that establishment, then CYA US$ and along with it the US economy, at least as we have known it. Do a Google search on the Iranian oil bourse or related words and see what you find. Mike DuPree PS, yes I'm very familiar with dailyfx.com, but I don't use all the resources there like I should. I do download their excellent calendar of each week's economic news releases from various countries throughout the world, mainly the US, A few of the major Eurozone countries like Germany, France, and Italy as well as European Central Bank rate decisions and speeches by ECB officials, Great Britain, Swiss, Japan, Australia, Canada and New Zealand. I have my suspicions about all these numbers, like I have my suspicions why the Forex (foreign exchange) market was ever opened to the amoebas of the world. I suspect the numbers are cooked, eg recent US revisions in especially important numbers like NonFarm payrolls being so far off from the initial releases. I also suspect, because the Forex was not always opened to the amoebas of the world, the powers that be somehow in their magisterial wisdom decided they needed more liquidity, more pawns to play their game. Hopefully this pawn can at least grab a few crumbs off the floor. Finally, check out the Bank for International Settlements (http://www.bis.org/index.htm) BIS Quarterly
Re: [Biofuel] REPORTED CURES WITH OIL PULLING
I'm always a little skeptical of miracle cures that tell you that getting sicker is a step towards getting better ;P --- D. Mindock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've just started to use it for my periodontal disease. It really seems to be effective. And it's so simple. I use sesame oil for the minimum 10 minutes. Peace, D. Mindock === REPORTED CURES WITH OIL PULLING Mouth Gum Disease; Stiff Joints; Allergies; Asthma; High Blood Sugar; Constipation; Migraines; Bronchitis; Eczema; Heart, Kidney, Lung Diseases; Leukemia; Arthritis; Meningitis; Insomnia; Menopause (hormonal issues); Cancer; AIDS; Chronic Infections; Varicose Veins; High Blood Pressure; Diabetes; Polio; Cracked Heels. Here's are a few paragraphs from Bharat Savur's article on The Hindu Business Online ...When Dr Karsch examined the gargled milk-white oil under a microscope with 600 magnification, he saw live organisms swimming in it. It's poisonous, so never swallow it, he warns. These poisons are bacteria-embryos, which, if not eliminated, cause diseases. Apparently, Dr Karsch cured his own chronic blood disease and 15-year-old arthritis. The first sign of improvement is in the teeth-they become firm and white, he says. Other healing indications: fresh, relaxed feeling on waking up, disappearing dark pouches below the eyes, anew appetite and energy, better memory and deep sleep. Dr Karsch swears by the mouth oil-wash for anything from organ-disorders, skin-diseases, menstrual problems, paralysis to every ache and it is in the human anatomy. You can gargle even when you have fever, he says, adding, it takes anything from two days to a year to cure a disease. And if these claims sound exaggerated, he told a conference of Ukrainian cancer specialists, try out the process yourself. Interestingly, Ayurveda advises oil gargling to purify the taste-buds and the entire system, as explained by Dr Deepak Chopra in Perfect Health. According to this life science, the tongue is mapped by organ-locations - that is, each section of the tongue is connected to the kidneys, lungs, spleen, liver, heart, pancreas, small intestines, stomach, colon, and spine. Thus, an oil-mouth-massage soothes and stimulates the key meridians where taste meets organ. Simultaneously, as in any skin-massage, the inner skin and lining of the mouth, palate and tongue become warm and supple and the lubrication prevents dryness (the vatic effect). In modern dietetics too, dryness is discussed. For example, lack of Vitamin A (retinal) causes the outer lining of the eyeball to dry and wrinkle, and affects vision. And as any dietician would tell you, all oils contain 960 micrograms of vitamin A per 10 gm (the recommended daily allowance of vitamin A per adult is 600 micrograms). So, it's possible that oil gargling helps in reaching the required retinal to the eyeballs and keeps them elastic and smooth. Likewise, the Ayurvedic `purification of taste-buds' also has its equivalent in dietetics as `antioxidants'. Oxidation literally means `the putrefaction of body-tissues'. And oil-soluble vitamins, A, C, D, and E are antioxidants that protect and prevent the decaying process and help maintain the integral functioning of cell membranes. That's why, many people are ingesting vitamin E pills to stem `aging' (oxidation). Click here to read the rest of this excellent article in its entirety. OIL PULLING INSTRUCTIONS: First thing in the morning, after brushing your teeth but before eating or drinking, take 1 TBSP of either sesame or sunflower oil. Put the oil in your mouth, tilt your chin up and slowly swish, suck, chomp and pull through the teeth. Do this for at least 10 minutes. 15 - 20 minutes is better. You want the oil to become a thin, white foam when you finally spit it out. If it's still yellow, you haven't done it long enough. You can do this 2 more times during the day if you want to detox faster. Make sure you do it on an empty stomach, however. Spit it out in the toilet when your mouth is full and rinse your mouth out well. Follow with 2 - 3 glasses of water. DO NOT SWALLOW THE OIL! It now contains parasites and bacteria! DO NOT GARGLE IN THE THROAT! DO IT SLOWLY! HOW IT WORKS: The oil pulls all mucous, bacteria and toxins from your body through your saliva. According to Ayurvedic medicine, mucous is a poison that must be removed. Note #1: Keeping the chin tilted up makes sure the oil gets to the back molars. Note #2: Only sesame and sunflower oils produce favorable results. Note #3: If after meals, wait at least 4 hours before you Oil Pull. After drinking, wait 1 hour. Note #4: A worsening of symptoms is an excellent indication that the disease/ailment is being cured. Note #5: Do not stop Oil Pulling if you feel aggravated symptoms or heightened side effects. Your
Re: [Biofuel] The Death of a Compost Bin
It sounds like you're all talking about a kinda large-scale operation here, so I'm not sure how useful this will be...but I just built a worm-bin for the place I work, and have one at home as well...and I find that they work faster and better for my composting needs than a conventional composting bin. I crafted my latest bin out of untreated cedar siding leftover from a construction project. However, I suppose that for larger volume applications such as lawn trimmings, I'd second the pallet idea. Good luck, Luke --- Paul S Cantrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pallets are particularly useful. Usually you can pick up 3 for free and either have an open side or I had some leftover window screen, which allows air flow. Also, if you have room you can get 5 pallets and make a double bin...using a UU shape. On 12/9/06, Tom Irwin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Robert, I use wood posts stacked like a log cabin. It´s open on one side. I don´t use treated wood anywhere. So avoid that poison. If the wood rots in time I replace it. Tom Irwin -- From: *robert and benita rabello [EMAIL PROTECTED]* Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: *[Biofuel] The Death of a Compost Bin* Date: *Fri, 08 Dec 2006 17:01:49 -0800* Although I don't do all of my composting in a bin, nearly all of our household table scraps and the entire collection of waste from our bunny cage went into a black plastic compost bin. Please note the past tense verb . . . About a week or so ago, we had a blast of arctic air sweep through this area. Temperatures plummeted and with the outflow winds howling out of the east, windchills of -20 C lasted for two or three days. (I know that some of you further east will probably laugh at this, but for those of us who live near the ocean, -20 is pretty cold!) The moisture in my compost bin expanded as it froze, literally warping or shattering the plastic bin. The whole thing actually fell over this morning. I went out to clean up the mess and found the top third of the contents completely preserved and uncomposted (big surprise, it's been cold, right?), the middle third consisted of a singular mass of partially composted, frozen material, while the bottom third remained warm enough to keep on decomposing. But the composter is toast. I'll have to construct another one because I'm NOT going to use plastic again . . . What do the rest of you use for compost bin construction material? robert luis rabello The Edge of Justice The Long Journey New Adventure for Your Mind http://www.newadventure.ca Ranger Supercharger Project Pagehttp://www.members.shaw.ca/rabello/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ -- Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! MSN Messengerhttp://g.msn.com/8HMBEN/2728??PS=47575Download today it's FREE! ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ -- Thanks, PC He's the kind of a guy who lights up a room just by flicking a switch It's a small world, but I wouldn't want to paint it. - Steven Wright We are confronted with insurmountable opportunities. - Walt Kelly ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ Yahoo! Music Unlimited Access over 1 million songs. http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] REPORTED CURES WITH OIL PULLING
Hello Luke .. you will find that description referred to as a healing crises or herximer (sp??). It's when the body starts to dump a bit more and/orfaster the the organs can handle comfortable. It, in some cases, can be beneficial to slow down a bit but it is never advisable to stop. This description can be found in most alternative methods but the general allopathic professions use it frequently when they refer to a body's .. sometimes .. reaction to antibiotics. Don't be skeptical .. it's pretty standard. It certainly is a very cheap andeasy method that will work and/or not work without any major discussion .. this way, after trying it for a reasonable period of time you will have personal experience on your side and can offer some data concerning your experience. In peace and light Mary Lynn Mary Lynn Schmidt, distributor Psionic Energy Software http://miracles6.bizland.com/softwaresolutions/ Rev. Mary Lynn Schmidt, Ordained Minister ONE SPIRIT ONE HEART Facilitator/Consultant for Alternative Healing Modalities and Practitioner utilizing various modalities which can include TTouch . Reiki . Pet Loss Grief Counseling . Animal Behavior Modification . Shamanic Spiritual Travel . Behavior Problems . Psionic Energy Practitioner . Radionics . Herbs . Dowsing . Nutrition . Homeopathy . Polarity . The Animal Connection Healing Modalities http://members.tripod.com/~MLSchmidt/ From: Luke Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.orgTo: biofuel@sustainablelists.orgSubject: Re: [Biofuel] REPORTED CURES WITH OIL PULLINGDate: Sat, 9 Dec 2006 11:47:30 -0800 (PST)I'm always a little skeptical of miracle cures thattell you that getting sicker is a step towards gettingbetter ;P--- "D. Mindock" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've just started to use it for my periodontal disease. It really seems to be effective. And it's so simple. I use sesame oil for the minimum 10 minutes. Peace, D. Mindock === REPORTED CURES WITH OIL PULLING Mouth Gum Disease; Stiff Joints; Allergies; Asthma; High Blood Sugar; Constipation; Migraines; Bronchitis; Eczema; Heart, Kidney, Lung Diseases; Leukemia; Arthritis; Meningitis; Insomnia; Menopause (hormonal issues); Cancer; AIDS; Chronic Infections; Varicose Veins; High Blood Pressure; Diabetes; Polio; Cracked Heels. Here's are a few paragraphs from Bharat Savur's article on The Hindu Business Online ..."When Dr Karsch examined the gargled milk-white oil under a microscope with 600 magnification, he saw live organisms swimming in it. It's poisonous, so never swallow it, he warns. These poisons are bacteria-embryos, which, if not eliminated, cause diseases. Apparently, Dr Karsch cured his own chronic blood disease and 15-year-old arthritis. The first sign of improvement is in the teeth-they become firm and white, he says. Other healing indications: fresh, relaxed feeling on waking up, disappearing dark pouches below the eyes, anew appetite and energy, better memory and deep sleep. Dr Karsch swears by the mouth oil-wash for anything from organ-disorders, skin-diseases, menstrual problems, paralysis to every ache and it is in the human anatomy. You can gargle even when you have fever, he says, adding, it takes anything from two days to a year to cure a disease. And if these claims sound exaggerated, he told a conference of Ukrainian cancer specialists, try out the process yourself. Interestingly, Ayurveda advises oil gargling "to purify the taste-buds and the entire system", as explained by Dr Deepak Chopra in Perfect Health. According to this life science, the tongue is mapped by organ-locations - that is, each section of the tongue is connected to the kidneys, lungs, spleen, liver, heart, pancreas, small intestines, stomach, colon, and spine. Thus, an oil-mouth-massage soothes and stimulates the key meridians where taste meets organ. Simultaneously, as in any skin-massage, the inner skin and lining of the mouth, palate and tongue become warm and supple and the lubrication prevents dryness (the vatic effect). In modern dietetics too, dryness is discussed. For example, lack of Vitamin A (retinal) causes the outer lining of the eyeball to dry and wrinkle, and affects vision. And as any dietician would tell you, all oils contain 960 micrograms of vitamin A per 10 gm (the recommended daily allowance of vitamin A per adult is 600 micrograms). So, it's possible that oil gargling helps in reaching the required retinal to the eyeballs and keeps them elastic and smooth. Likewise, the Ayurvedic `purification of taste-buds' also has its equivalent in dietetics as `antioxidants'. Oxidation literally means `the putrefaction of body-tissues'. And oil-soluble vitamins, A, C, D, and E are antioxidants that protect and prevent the decaying process and help maintain the integral functioning of cell membranes. That's why, many people are ingesting vitamin E pills to stem
Re: [Biofuel] Oil Pricing
Addendum...second paragraph, third sentence...I find it difficult to not believe that, if the world beyond the US finds a way to buy oil in Euros, this will only add to the rug that is being pulled out from under the US economy. I'm also very curious what anyone thinks about my final suggestion that a recent decision to increase the US Strategic Petroleum Reserve to 1 billion barrels could provide a potential for bailing out the US if the world does begin denominating oil in Euros, given that the present US current account balance is near a negative $650 billion and the price of oil presently is around $60 per barrel. The Euro presently stands at 1.33 versus the US$, in other words, 1 Euro = $1.33. So oil priced in Euros would cost the US $79.80 per barrel, if I'm calculating correctly. And the US could easily balance its' $650 billion account balance deficit and still have how many billion barrels of oil in reserve? Of course, the price of energy would immediately spike for the US citizenry and wreak major havoc for awhile, but we'd adjust. Note that for now, generally, for every $1 per barrel of oil increase/decrease, the price at the pump increases/decreases 10 cents per gallon. So presently, we would have to add $2.00 to each gallon of gas...$4.20 per gallon in my neck of the woods. Of course, that's going up, especially as China adds more cars to the world driving public. See: http://english.people.com.cn//200612/09/eng20061209_330504.html Mike DuPree - Original Message - From: MK DuPree To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2006 5:42 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Oil Pricing Tom...good info. I've been trying to learn how to trade foreign currency since May of this year, as much because of what I believe is coming (soon) for the US economy and if I could learn to do it successfully it would be a way for me to help my family through what I perceive to be these coming difficulties in the U.S. Not sure if this makes me a bum as far as the List is concerned, but it's what I'm doing. Anyway, because of what I've been learning since May, I certainly have to agree with what you have written for as far as it goes. You offer a positive spin on a declining US$ and I thank you for that. There is definitely that side to a declining US$. However, since I'm no economist and I can't even begin to be able to completely think this through I find it difficult to believe that if the world beyond the US finds a way to buy oil in Euros, this will only add to the rug that is being pulled out from under the US economy. Oil runs the world, whether we here on the List want to admit that or not, it does. In fact, I wonder if a recent decision to increase the US Strategic Petroleum Reserve isn't at least in part in response to what may be the trend to trade oil in Euros. See this link: http://english.people.com.cn//200612/09/eng20061209_330509.html A cursory Google search of US oil consumption puts us at around 20 million barrels per day as of November 2002. See: http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Oil_watch/World_Oil%20_Table.html So let's see, 1 Billion divided by 20 million...oops...50 days worth of fuel source??? Hey, that's plenty of time to develop alternative energy sources and the vehicles and distribution systems that will use those sources! Keep in mind too that the US$ began it's present leg to a longer term decline in February of this year, with the whole month of April and recently late October through til now being the steepest declines from February til now. Do these dates have anything to do with the Iranian oil bourse...originally scheduled to open in March? It wasn't. Then it was thought to be opened in May, thus the further runup of the Euro against the US$ in April, but again, no opening. Throughout the summer months EUR/USD channeled up and down. Then just before Thanksgiving a huge spike up of the Euro against the US$, which was a continuation of a trend around the end of October. Now recently an announcement on CNBC of Iran having completed their planned oil bourse. I'm presently trying to find this confirmation through internet searches, but so far no luck. But all I can tell you is that Mark Haines (I spelled his name with a y originally...sorry Mark) publicly stated in a kind of conversation with his co-show host Erin Burnett that it is now confirmed that Iran is trading its' oil in Euros. This is huge news, but as I mentioned in my first post of this thread, how much of the news that really matters gets broadcast? Nonetheless, the information is there. Keep in mind the FX (foreign exchange) market is the largest market on the planet, trading up to over $3 trillion at any given time. It is also a market that must exist to allow countries to do business with each other. Consequently, the major players are not the many amoebas
Re: [Biofuel] Oil Pricing Addendum to Addendum...Geez
I said I wasn't an economist...or a mathmetician...another addendum: if we balanced our account balance with oil from our Strategic Petroleum Reserve traded in euros, we would diminish our 1 billion barrel reserve to how many barrels, NOT how many billions of barrels. That's the end of my addendums as I've known them. Mike DuPree - Original Message - From: MK DuPree To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2006 10:54 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Oil Pricing Addendum...second paragraph, third sentence...I find it difficult to not believe that, if the world beyond the US finds a way to buy oil in Euros, this will only add to the rug that is being pulled out from under the US economy. I'm also very curious what anyone thinks about my final suggestion that a recent decision to increase the US Strategic Petroleum Reserve to 1 billion barrels could provide a potential for bailing out the US if the world does begin denominating oil in Euros, given that the present US current account balance is near a negative $650 billion and the price of oil presently is around $60 per barrel. The Euro presently stands at 1.33 versus the US$, in other words, 1 Euro = $1.33. So oil priced in Euros would cost the US $79.80 per barrel, if I'm calculating correctly. And the US could easily balance its' $650 billion account balance deficit and still have how many billion barrels of oil in reserve? Of course, the price of energy would immediately spike for the US citizenry and wreak major havoc for awhile, but we'd adjust. Note that for now, generally, for every $1 per barrel of oil increase/decrease, the price at the pump increases/decreases 10 cents per gallon. So presently, we would have to add $2.00 to each gallon of gas...$4.20 per gallon in my neck of the woods. Of course, that's going up, especially as China adds more cars to the world driving public. See: http://english.people.com.cn//200612/09/eng20061209_330504.html Mike DuPree - Original Message - From: MK DuPree To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2006 5:42 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Oil Pricing Tom...good info. I've been trying to learn how to trade foreign currency since May of this year, as much because of what I believe is coming (soon) for the US economy and if I could learn to do it successfully it would be a way for me to help my family through what I perceive to be these coming difficulties in the U.S. Not sure if this makes me a bum as far as the List is concerned, but it's what I'm doing. Anyway, because of what I've been learning since May, I certainly have to agree with what you have written for as far as it goes. You offer a positive spin on a declining US$ and I thank you for that. There is definitely that side to a declining US$. However, since I'm no economist and I can't even begin to be able to completely think this through I find it difficult to believe that if the world beyond the US finds a way to buy oil in Euros, this will only add to the rug that is being pulled out from under the US economy. Oil runs the world, whether we here on the List want to admit that or not, it does. In fact, I wonder if a recent decision to increase the US Strategic Petroleum Reserve isn't at least in part in response to what may be the trend to trade oil in Euros. See this link: http://english.people.com.cn//200612/09/eng20061209_330509.html A cursory Google search of US oil consumption puts us at around 20 million barrels per day as of November 2002. See: http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Oil_watch/World_Oil%20_Table.html So let's see, 1 Billion divided by 20 million...oops...50 days worth of fuel source??? Hey, that's plenty of time to develop alternative energy sources and the vehicles and distribution systems that will use those sources! Keep in mind too that the US$ began it's present leg to a longer term decline in February of this year, with the whole month of April and recently late October through til now being the steepest declines from February til now. Do these dates have anything to do with the Iranian oil bourse...originally scheduled to open in March? It wasn't. Then it was thought to be opened in May, thus the further runup of the Euro against the US$ in April, but again, no opening. Throughout the summer months EUR/USD channeled up and down. Then just before Thanksgiving a huge spike up of the Euro against the US$, which was a continuation of a trend around the end of October. Now recently an announcement on CNBC of Iran having completed their planned oil bourse. I'm presently trying to find this confirmation through internet searches, but so far no luck. But all I can tell you is that Mark Haines (I spelled his name with a y originally...sorry Mark) publicly stated in a kind of conversation with his co-show host Erin Burnett
Re: [Biofuel] Oil Pricing Addendum to Addendum...Geez
I understand if you include derivatives our debt is several trillion Kirk MK DuPree [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I said I wasn't an economist...or a mathmetician...another addendum: if we balanced our account balance with oil from our Strategic Petroleum Reserve traded in euros, we would diminish our 1 billion barrel reserve to how many barrels, NOT how many billions of barrels. That's the end of my addendums as I've known them. Mike DuPree - Original Message - From: MK DuPree To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2006 10:54 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Oil Pricing Addendum...second paragraph, third sentence...I find it difficult to not believe that, if the world beyond the US finds a way to buy oil in Euros, this will only add to the rug that is being pulled out from under the US economy. I'm also very curious what anyone thinks about my final suggestion that a recent decision to increase the US Strategic Petroleum Reserve to 1 billion barrels could provide a potential for bailing out the US if the world does begin denominating oil in Euros, given that the present US current account balance is near a negative $650 billion and the price of oil presently is around $60 per barrel. The Euro presently stands at 1.33 versus the US$, in other words, 1 Euro = $1.33. So oil priced in Euros would cost the US $79.80 per barrel, if I'm calculating correctly. And the US could easily balance its' $650 billion account balance deficit and still have how many billion barrels of oil in reserve? Of course, the price of energy would immediately spike for the US citizenry and wreak major havoc for awhile, but we'd adjust. Note that for now, generally, for every $1 per barrel of oil increase/decrease, the price at the pump increases/decreases 10 cents per gallon. So presently, we would have to add $2.00 to each gallon of gas...$4.20 per gallon in my neck of the woods. Of course, that's going up, especially as China adds more cars to the world driving public. See: http://english.people.com.cn//200612/09/eng20061209_330504.html Mike DuPree - Original Message - From: MK DuPree To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2006 5:42 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Oil Pricing Tom...good info. I've been trying to learn how to trade foreign currency since May of this year, as much because of what I believe is coming (soon) for the US economy and if I could learn to do it successfully it would be a way for me to help my family through what I perceive to be these coming difficulties in the U.S. Not sure if this makes me a bum as far as the List is concerned, but it's what I'm doing. Anyway, because of what I've been learning since May, I certainly have to agree with what you have written for as far as it goes. You offer a positive spin on a declining US$ and I thank you for that. There is definitely that side to a declining US$. However, since I'm no economist and I can't even begin to be able to completely think this through I find it difficult to believe that if the world beyond the US finds a way to buy oil in Euros, this will only add to the rug that is being pulled out from under the US economy. Oil runs the world, whether we here on the List want to admit that or not, it does. In fact, I wonder if a recent decision to increase the US Strategic Petroleum Reserve isn't at least in part in response to what may be the trend to trade oil in Euros. See this link: http://english.people.com.cn//200612/09/eng20061209_330509.html A cursory Google search of US oil consumption puts us at around 20 million barrels per day as of November 2002. See: http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Oil_watch/World_Oil%20_Table.html So let's see, 1 Billion divided by 20 million...oops...50 days worth of fuel source??? Hey, that's plenty of time to develop alternative energy sources and the vehicles and distribution systems that will use those sources! Keep in mind too that the US$ began it's present leg to a longer term decline in February of this year, with the whole month of April and recently late October through til now being the steepest declines from February til now. Do these dates have anything to do with the Iranian oil bourse...originally scheduled to open in March? It wasn't. Then it was thought to be opened in May, thus the further runup of the Euro against the US$ in April, but again, no opening. Throughout the summer months EUR/USD channeled up and down. Then just before Thanksgiving a huge spike up of the Euro against the US$, which was a continuation of a trend around the end of October. Now recently an announcement on CNBC of Iran having completed their planned oil bourse. I'm presently trying to find this confirmation through internet searches, but so far no luck. But all I can tell you is that Mark Haines (I spelled his
