[Biofuel] REACH: Barely Alive and in Critical Condition
From Rachel's Precaution Reporter REACH: Barely Alive and in Critical Condition Europe's long-awaited chemicals-policy law, REACH, survived a second reading today in the European Parliament. However, as enacted, REACH has been badly watered down and contains major loopholes, according a coalition of European health, environment, consumer and women's organizations. EU Passes Sweeping Chemical Reform Compared to their European counterparts, U.S. activists are more enthusiastic about REACH, the chemicals-policy law adopted today by the European Parliament. Greens: European Parliament Passes Weak Chemicals Policy The Greens and the European Free Alliance (EFA) immediately derided the European chemicals policy, REACH, enacted today by the European Parliament. Green Member of Parliament Caroline Lucas said, This deal is an early Christmas present for the chemicals industry... European Union Approves Sweeping Chemicals Curbs The Wall Street Journal says, The tough new law will require manufacturers and importers to document how some 30,000 chemicals are used in products from cleaning liquids and plastics to furniture and electronics. About 1,500 chemicals deemed most dangerous to humans and animals will be at the heart of a new regulatory battleground for manufacturers and chemical producers doing business in or with the EU. Europeans Pass Chemical Regulation Law The Houston Chronicle says, Some dangerous chemicals could be banned from the European market and about 30,000 substances used in everyday products ranging from detergents to toys will have to be registered in a central European Union database under a law approved Wednesday. -- From: http://www.wecf.de/cms/articles/2006/12/3783.phpWomen in Europe for a Common Future, Dec. 13, 2006 http://www.precaution.org/lib/06/prn_reach_alive_not_kicking.061213.h tm[Printer-friendly version] REACH: Barely Alive and in Critical Condition Strasbourg, France -- A plenary vote by Members of the European Parliament has left the new EU chemicals legislation, REACH, alive but in a critical condition, according to health, environment, consumer and women's advocacy groups. 'Alive': The legislation, designed to replace rules up to 40 years old, sets Europe on the first modest step towards a new approach to chemicals regulation: companies will have to provide safety data for large volume chemicals that they produce or import into Europe, and there is a mechanism for the substitution of persistent and bioaccumulative chemicals if safer alternatives exist. It also allows the public to request information about the presence of a limited number of hazardous chemicals in products. In the past, companies could sell almost any chemical they liked without providing health and safety information; and hazardous chemicals were only restricted in response to scandal on a case-by-case basis. 'Not kicking': Major loopholes in REACH will still allow many chemicals that can cause serious health problems, including cancer, birth defects and reproductive illnesses, to continue being used in manufacturing and consumer goods. Further concessions exempt companies which import and manufacture chemicals in volumes below 10 tonnes a year -- 60% of chemicals covered by REACH -- from the requirement to provide any meaningful safety data. REACH and the new European Chemicals Agency will therefore require intensive care from policymakers over the coming years to ensure that they protect the public from highly hazardous chemicals. Under REACH, many 'high-concern' chemicals will be allowed onto the market if producers claim that they can 'adequately control' them. The approach of adequate control -- and safe thresholds -- is premised on a risky gamble, given the unknown effects of chemicals in combination, on vulnerable hormone functions, and on the development of children from the earliest stages of life. Medical associations, consumer groups and innovative businesses across Europe had called for a complete substitution requirement in REACH as the minimum necessary measure against hazardous chemicals. The loopholes and provisions for self-regulation contained in these measures leave REACH very vulnerable to further manipulation by the chemical industry. There is no guarantee, for example, that information from third parties about safer alternatives to hazardous chemicals will be considered in every case. The new EU Chemicals Agency in Helsinki will have to be closely monitored to ensure that REACH can deliver. Without the necessary support, hazardous chemicals will continue to contaminate wildlife, our homes and our bodies, and REACH will prove a failure. http://www.wecf.de/cms/projects/reach/index.phpMore information. Contacts: Mecki Naschke, Policy Officer, Chemical Policies at European Environmental Bureau (EEB), +49 176 23 500 897 Javier Calvo, Policy Officer at
[Biofuel] The Repeatedly Re-Elected Autocrat
http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=3009 Extra! November/December 2006 The Repeatedly Re-Elected Autocrat Painting Chávez as a 'would-be dictator' By Steve Rendall Hugo Chávez never had a chance with the U.S. press. Shortly after his first electoral victory in 1998, New York Times Latin America reporter Larry Rohter (12/20/98) summed up his victory thusly: All across Latin America, presidents and party leaders are looking over their shoulders. With his landslide victory in Venezuela's presidential election on December 6, Hugo Chávez has revived an all-too-familiar specter that the region's ruling elite thought they had safely interred: that of the populist demagogue, the authoritarian man on horseback known as the caudillo. Notwithstanding that interring caudillos has not been a consuming passion of Latin America's ruling elite (or U.S. policy makers), it is fitting that the Times reporter sided with that elite. A few years later, in April 2002, following Chávez's re-election by an even greater margin, Times editors cheered a coup against Chávez by Venezuelan elites (Extra! Update, 6/02), declaring in Orwellian fashion that thanks to the overthrow of the elected president, Venezuelan democracy is no longer threatened by a would-be dictator. For Pedro Carmona-the man who took power in Chávez's brief absence, declaring an actual dictatorship by dismissing the Venezuelan legislature, Supreme Court and other democratic institutions-Times editors had much nicer language, calling the former head of Venezuela's chamber of commerce a respected business leader. Following Chávez's return to office a few days later, Times editors issued a grudging reappraisal of their coup endorsement (Extra! Update!, 6/02). Still insisting that Chávez was a divisive and demagogic leader, the editors averred that the forcible removal of a democratically elected leader is never something to cheer. As if this pro-opposition bias were not enough, in January 2003 the Times was forced to dismiss one of its Venezuela reporters, a Venezuelan national named Francisco Toro, when it was revealed that Toro was an anti-Chávez activist (FAIR Action Alert, 6/6/03). The Times anti-Chávez campaign was manifest in a recent book review (9/17/06) of Nikolas Kozloff's Hugo Chávez: Oil, Politics and the Challenge to the United States, in which Times business columnist Roger Lowenstein rebuked the author for praising the Chávez government, explaining that Chávez has militarized the government, emasculated the country's courts, intimidated the media, eroded confidence in the economy and hollowed out Venezuela's once-democratic institutions. But Lowenstein failed to provide much evidence for his charges-a frequent characteristic of Chávez bashing-or to note that similar charges can be made against other governments, including one much closer to home. Calling names The New York Times is not alone. A Newsweek column (11/7/05) asserted that Venezuela has turned to destructive populism under Chávez, while a news report in the magazine (10/31/05) cited the increasingly authoritarian tilt of the Chávez regime, which has packed the Venezuelan judiciary with pliable magistrates and enacted legislation curtailing press freedoms. In his May 2006 Atlantic profile, New Republic editor Franklin Foer complained that under Chávez's presidency Venezuela had taken an anti-democratic turn. The Washington Post's news pages have relentlessly criticized Chávez in news stories, calling him autocratic (8/12/04) and authoritarian (8/7/06). However, a much more ferocious campaign is waged against Chávez on the Post's editorial and op-ed pages. In one column after another, the Post's opinion pages have charged him with assaulting democracy and stifling dissent. In one column (10/16/06), deputy editorial editor Jackson Diehl called Chávez an autocratic demagogue and accused him of dismantl[ing] Venezuela's democracy. Editorial page editor Fred Hiatt (12/26/05) explained that Chávez had consolidated one-party rule and moved to export his brand of populist autocracy to neighboring nations. Even putative liberal commentators have joined the media chorus. On the O'Reilly Factor (12/5/05), Fox News contributor and NPR reporter Juan Williams said of Venezuela, What you're seeing there is really communism. In September, when Democratic operatives Paul Begala and James Carville appeared on New York City public radio station WNYC (9/25/06), Begala told host Brian Lehrer that Chávez was an autocrat, not a democrat, and said he had a terrible human rights record. Carville told Lehrer, I've worked in Venezuela and I would be very reluctant to call Chávez a democrat. What Carville didn't say was that he worked in Venezuela as an advisor to Venezuelan opposition groups leading an economically devastating strike by managers of the national oil company in an effort to destabilize the government (Washington Post, 1/20/03).
Re: [Biofuel] oil pulling
It's called a Herxheimer reaction (aka Herxheimer's revenge). Eg, medical treatment can destroy a pathogen, releasing endotoxins which make you even more ill than you were before, and overwhelm the liver. (Endotoxins are part of the pathogen's body, only released when it dies, as opposed to the exotoxins that it excretes.) I think there are other ways this can happen, it depends on the illness. Best Keith Luke: Have you ever noticed that when washing a bucket, the water gets dirty before it gets clean. If only a portion of the bucket is dirty, when you clean it you get the rest of the bucket dirty before it gets clean. For a more comprehensive understanding you could probably google healing crisis I have recently started trying the oil pulling method and I think it is beneficial. I think it was either at a DMSO list or perhaps Whitegold list it was posted as well. Wes Luke wrote: Luke Hansen Sat, 09 Dec 2006 16:51:15 -0800 I'm always a little skeptical of miracle cures that tell you that getting sicker is a step towards getting better ;P ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] TiO2 (Titanium Dioxide) Lights
Yes ozone is a sterilizer and it is also unhealthy to breathe. High voltage arcs produce ozone and also produce nitrogen oxides which are not healthy. Mercury arc lamps produce enough UV to make ozone for sure. So does a laser printer. Usually arc lamps have an outer envelope to keep air away from the actual bulb. UV lamps bright enough to make O3 are dangerous to the eyes. What else about ozonelet's see, ozone disolved in hot deionized water is hell on wheels for anything organic. Works like gang busters as a cleaner for semiconductor wafers. Environmentally freindly! Liquid ozone is something like nitroglycerine, watch out for that one when using cryogenic pumps with oxygen plasmas. Warm them slowly with a nitrogen purgedon't let that ball of frozen ozone melt and drip or we'll see you in the next world. I suppose liquid ozone would beat liquid oxygen for starting a barbeque...lol Don't try this at home kids. Fun with ozone Joe Jeromie Reeves wrote: UV light (when powerful enough) can sterilize many things. There are a number of water plants that use UV for sterilizing. I dunno about the Ozone Lights doing much good on the O3 side (namely, is O3 a sterilizing agent?). I think there are better ways to make O3 such as direct electrical arc (jacobs ladder). Some ion machines also produce O3. Luke Hansen wrote: Hello all, I was just wondering if anyone has heard anything about the effects of these Ozone Lights. I guess that they don't actually create O3, but they do kill airborne pathogens. Most of the online literature that I've found goes back to one study that showed this light effective in killing E. Coli bacteria in clinical trials. Anyone have experiences with this, or anything similiar? Thanks, Luke Any questions? Get answers on any topic at www.Answers.yahoo.com. Try it now. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] SENATE CONTROL THREATENED BY TIM JOHNSON'S ILLNESS
So I'm curios what folks here think Raoul may do when Fidel dies, and what the US will do? Apparently Raoul is pro-china. Guess these questions are so inter-related it's anyones guess. Joe Luke Hansen wrote: snip Bummer about Johnson, but hell, be thankful...Hugo Chavez was re-elected, and Pinochet kicked the bucket. It's kinda scary how malleable people seem to be...he was actually reveared by a section of Chile's population...and to think that the CIA put him in control to stop the spread of communism to south america...crazy shit. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] SENATE CONTROL THREATENED BY TIM JOHNSON'S ILLNESS
Hopefully Bush won't 'pull a Teddy Roosevelt' and invade. Cuba does have oil. Although, the US could use some competent doctors that speak Spanish. On 12/15/06, Joe Street [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So I'm curios what folks here think Raoul may do when Fidel dies, and what the US will do? Apparently Raoul is pro-china. Guess these questions are so inter-related it's anyones guess. Joe -- Thanks, PC He's the kind of a guy who lights up a room just by flicking a switch It's a small world, but I wouldn't want to paint it. - Steven Wright We are confronted with insurmountable opportunities. - Walt Kelly ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] TiO2 (Titanium Dioxide) Lights
Excellent. I appreciate all of the input. In the past, I've used UV sterylizers in my marine aquaria, but never really had a need for indoor air purification. Now I do, so I'm examining my options. First a few points/questions... * very high voltages are required to create O3, correct? * UV light between certain nanometers creates O3? * This ozone light could also be harmful to people, as well as eliminating airborne pathogens? A side note, I think that the ozone light brags about its safety, and, in fact, states that it doesn't actually create O3. Thanks, Luke Joe Street [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes ozone is a sterilizer and it is also unhealthy to breathe. High voltage arcs produce ozone and also produce nitrogen oxides which are not healthy. Mercury arc lamps produce enough UV to make ozone for sure. So does a laser printer. Usually arc lamps have an outer envelope to keep air away from the actual bulb. UV lamps bright enough to make O3 are dangerous to the eyes. What else about ozonelet's see, ozone disolved in hot deionized water is hell on wheels for anything organic. Works like gang busters as a cleaner for semiconductor wafers. Environmentally freindly! Liquid ozone is something like nitroglycerine, watch out for that one when using cryogenic pumps with oxygen plasmas. Warm them slowly with a nitrogen purgedon't let that ball of frozen ozone melt and drip or we'll see you in the next world. I suppose liquid ozone would beat liquid oxygen for starting a barbeque...lol Don't try this at home kids. Fun with ozone Joe Jeromie Reeves wrote: UV light (when powerful enough) can sterilize many things. There are a number of water plants that use UV for sterilizing. I dunno about the Ozone Lights doing much good on the O3 side (namely, is O3 a sterilizing agent?). I think there are better ways to make O3 such as direct electrical arc (jacobs ladder). Some ion machines also produce O3. Luke Hansen wrote: Hello all, I was just wondering if anyone has heard anything about the effects of these Ozone Lights. I guess that they don't actually create O3, but they do kill airborne pathogens. Most of the online literature that I've found goes back to one study that showed this light effective in killing E. Coli bacteria in clinical trials. Anyone have experiences with this, or anything similiar? Thanks, Luke Any questions? Get answers on any topic at www.Answers.yahoo.com. Try it now. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] oil pulling
Well, in light of the barrage of rebuttals that I've received here, I suppose that I may have to actually try this Oil Pulling trick. I realize now that it's a bit hypocritical of me to consider so many of my fellow countrymen closeminded, if I'm not open to new things myself! Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's called a Herxheimer reaction (aka Herxheimer's revenge). Eg, medical treatment can destroy a pathogen, releasing endotoxins which make you even more ill than you were before, and overwhelm the liver. (Endotoxins are part of the pathogen's body, only released when it dies, as opposed to the exotoxins that it excretes.) I think there are other ways this can happen, it depends on the illness. Best Keith Luke: Have you ever noticed that when washing a bucket, the water gets dirty before it gets clean. If only a portion of the bucket is dirty, when you clean it you get the rest of the bucket dirty before it gets clean. For a more comprehensive understanding you could probably google healing crisis I have recently started trying the oil pulling method and I think it is beneficial. I think it was either at a DMSO list or perhaps Whitegold list it was posted as well. Wes Luke wrote: Luke Hansen Sat, 09 Dec 2006 16:51:15 -0800 I'm always a little skeptical of miracle cures that tell you that getting sicker is a step towards getting better ;P ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] TiO2 (Titanium Dioxide) Lights
Hi Luke; What is required to create ozone electrically is an arc open to air. The voltage required for this depends on the distance between electrodes or 'air gap' small gap requires lower voltage. Another way is to have a very high voltage which produces a corona. This is not quite like an arc but does cause local ionization of the air around the tip of the sharp electrode. Yes UV light can produce ozone (O3) I cannot remember which wavelength but a mercury arc lamp produces several spectral peaks and one of them causes ozone formation. Yes the high intensity UV light can cause burns to the skin and eyes. As well the ozone is toxic to breathe. On your last comment I am confused. You realize ozone and O3 are the same thing? If the lamp claims to produce ozone then it is producing O3. If it claims not to produce O3 then it cannot be called an ozone lamp! J Luke Hansen wrote: Excellent. I appreciate all of the input. In the past, I've used UV sterylizers in my marine aquaria, but never really had a need for indoor air purification. Now I do, so I'm examining my options. First a few points/questions... * very high voltages are required to create O3, correct? * UV light between certain nanometers creates O3? * This ozone light could also be harmful to people, as well as eliminating airborne pathogens? A side note, I think that the ozone light brags about its safety, and, in fact, states that it doesn't actually create O3. Thanks, Luke */Joe Street [EMAIL PROTECTED]/* wrote: Yes ozone is a sterilizer and it is also unhealthy to breathe. High voltage arcs produce ozone and also produce nitrogen oxides which are not healthy. Mercury arc lamps produce enough UV to make ozone for sure. So does a laser printer. Usually arc lamps have an outer envelope to keep air away from the actual bulb. UV lamps bright enough to make O3 are dangerous to the eyes. What else about ozonelet's see, ozone disolved in hot deionized water is hell on wheels for anything organic. Works like gang busters as a cleaner for semiconductor wafers. Environmentally freindly! Liquid ozone is something like nitroglycerine, watch out for that one when using cryogenic pumps with oxygen plasmas. Warm them slowly with a nitrogen purgedon't let that ball of frozen ozone melt and drip or we'll see you in the next world. I suppose liquid ozone would beat liquid oxygen for starting a barbeque...lol Don't try this at home kids. Fun with ozone Joe Jeromie Reeves wrote: UV light (when powerful enough) can sterilize many things. There are a number of water plants that use UV for sterilizing. I dunno about the Ozone Lights doing much good on the O3 side (namely, is O3 a sterilizing agent?). I think there are better ways to make O3 such as direct electrical arc (jacobs ladder). Some ion machines also produce O3. Luke Hansen wrote: Hello all, I was just wondering if anyone has heard anything about the effects of these Ozone Lights. I guess that they don't actually create O3, but they do kill airborne pathogens. Most of the online literature that I've found goes back to one study that showed this light effective in killing E. Coli bacteria in clinical trials. Anyone have experiences with this, or anything similiar? Thanks, Luke Any questions? Get answers on any topic at www.Answers.yahoo.com. Try it now. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [Biofuel] TiO2 (Titanium Dioxide) Lights
Its the short uv that produces ozone 275nm? You need the mercury vapor lamps that are made of quartz. Glass is opaque to uv. Kirk Joe Street [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Luke; What is required to create ozone electrically is an arc open to air. The voltage required for this depends on the distance between electrodes or 'air gap' small gap requires lower voltage. Another way is to have a very high voltage which produces a corona. This is not quite like an arc but does cause local ionization of the air around the tip of the sharp electrode. Yes UV light can produce ozone (O3) I cannot remember which wavelength but a mercury arc lamp produces several spectral peaks and one of them causes ozone formation. Yes the high intensity UV light can cause burns to the skin and eyes. As well the ozone is toxic to breathe. On your last comment I am confused. You realize ozone and O3 are the same thing? If the lamp claims to produce ozone then it is producing O3. If it claims not to produce O3 then it cannot be called an ozone lamp! J Luke Hansen wrote: Excellent. I appreciate all of the input. In the past, I've used UV sterylizers in my marine aquaria, but never really had a need for indoor air purification. Now I do, so I'm examining my options. First a few points/questions... * very high voltages are required to create O3, correct? * UV light between certain nanometers creates O3? * This ozone light could also be harmful to people, as well as eliminating airborne pathogens? A side note, I think that the ozone light brags about its safety, and, in fact, states that it doesn't actually create O3. Thanks, Luke Joe Street [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes ozone is a sterilizer and it is also unhealthy to breathe. High voltage arcs produce ozone and also produce nitrogen oxides which are not healthy. Mercury arc lamps produce enough UV to make ozone for sure. So does a laser printer. Usually arc lamps have an outer envelope to keep air away from the actual bulb. UV lamps bright enough to make O3 are dangerous to the eyes. What else about ozonelet's see, ozone disolved in hot deionized water is hell on wheels for anything organic. Works like gang busters as a cleaner for semiconductor wafers. Environmentally freindly! Liquid ozone is something like nitroglycerine, watch out for that one when using cryogenic pumps with oxygen plasmas. Warm them slowly with a nitrogen purgedon't let that ball of frozen ozone melt and drip or we'll see you in the next world. I suppose liquid ozone would beat liquid oxygen for starting a barbeque...lol Don't try this at home kids. Fun with ozone Joe Jeromie Reeves wrote: UV light (when powerful enough) can sterilize many things. There are a number of water plants that use UV for sterilizing. I dunno about the Ozone Lights doing much good on the O3 side (namely, is O3 a sterilizing agent?). I think there are better ways to make O3 such as direct electrical arc (jacobs ladder). Some ion machines also produce O3.Luke Hansen wrote: Hello all,I was just wondering if anyone has heard anything about the effects of these Ozone Lights. I guess that they don't actually create O3, but they do kill airborne pathogens. Most of the online literature that I've found goes back to one study that showed this light effective in killing E. Coli bacteria in clinical trials. Anyone have experiences with this, or anything similiar?Thanks, Luke Any questions? Get answers on any topic at www.Answers.yahoo.com. Try it now.___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam
[Biofuel] Diabetes breakthrough: Toronto scientists cure disease in mice
st1\:*{behavior:url(#default#ieooui) } Interesting: While
pain scientists have been receptive to the research, immunologists have voiced
skepticism at the idea of the nervous system playing such a major role in the
disease. -D
st1\:*{behavior:url(#default#ieooui) }Diabetes
breakthrough: Toronto scientists cure disease in mice; claim malfunctioning
nerve cells the cause
http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/news/story.html?id=a042812e-492c-4f07-8245-8a598ab5d1bfk=63970p=2
Published: Friday, December 15, 2006
In a discovery that has stunned even those behind it, scientists at a Toronto
hospital say they have proof the body's nervous system helps trigger diabetes,
opening the door to a potential near-cure of the disease that affects millions
of Canadians.
Diabetic mice became healthy virtually overnight after researchers injected a
substance to counteract the effect of malfunctioning pain neurons in the
pancreas.
I couldn't believe it, said Dr. Michael Salter, a pain expert at the
Hospital for Sick Children and one of the scientists. Mice with diabetes
suddenly didn't have diabetes any more.
The researchers caution they have yet to confirm their findings in people,
but say they expect results from human studies within a year or so. Any
treatment that may emerge to help at least some patients would likely be years
away from hitting the market.
But the excitement of the team from Sick Kids, whose work is being published
today in the journal Cell, is almost palpable.
I've never seen anything like it, said Dr. Hans Michael Dosch, an
immunologist at the hospital and a leader of the studies. In my career, this
is unique.
Their conclusions upset conventional wisdom that Type 1 diabetes, the most
serious form of the illness that typically first appears in childhood, was
solely caused by auto-immune responses -- the body's immune system turning on
itself.
They also conclude that there are far more similarities than previously
thought between Type 1 and Type 2 diabetes, and that nerves likely play a role
in other chronic inflammatory conditions, such as asthma and Crohn's disease.
The paradigm-changing study opens a novel, exciting door to address one of
the diseases with large societal impact, said Dr. Christian Stohler, a leading
U.S. pain specialist and dean of dentistry at the University of Maryland, who
has reviewed the work.
The treatment and diagnosis of neuropathic diseases is poised to take a
dramatic leap forward because of the impressive research.
About two million Canadians suffer from diabetes, 10% of them with Type 1,
contributing to 41,000 deaths a year.
Insulin replacement therapy is the only treatment of Type 1, and cannot
prevent many of the side effects, from heart attacks to kidney failure.
In Type 1 diabetes, the pancreas does not produce enough insulin to shift
glucose into the cells that need it. In Type 2 diabetes, the insulin that is
produced is not used effectively -- something called insulin resistance -- also
resulting in poor absorption of glucose.
The problems stem partly from inflammation -- and eventual death -- of
insulin-producing islet cells in the pancreas.
Dr. Dosch had concluded in a 1999 paper that there were surprising
similarities between diabetes and multiple sclerosis, a central nervous system
disease. His interest was also piqued by the presence around the
insulin-producing islets of an enormous number of nerves, pain neurons
primarily used to signal the brain that tissue has been damaged.
Suspecting a link between the nerves and diabetes, he and Dr. Salter used an
old experimental trick -- injecting capsaicin, the active ingredient in hot
chili peppers, to kill the pancreatic sensory nerves in mice that had an
equivalent of Type 1 diabetes.
Then we had the biggest shock of our lives, Dr. Dosch said. Almost
immediately, the islets began producing insulin normally It was a shock ?
really out of left field, because nothing in the literature was saying anything
about this.
It turns out the nerves secrete neuropeptides that are instrumental in the
proper functioning of the islets. Further study by the team, which also
involved the University of Calgary and the Jackson Laboratory in Maine, found
that the nerves in diabetic mice were releasing too little of the
neuropeptides, resulting in a vicious cycle of stress on the islets.
So next they injected the neuropeptide substance P in the pancreases of
diabetic mice, a demanding task given the tiny size of the rodent organs. The
results were dramatic.
The islet inflammation cleared up and the diabetes was gone. Some have
remained in that state for as long as four months, with just one injection.
They also discovered that their treatments curbed the insulin
Re: [Biofuel] TiO2 (Titanium Dioxide) Lights
I think that the company that makes these lights just chose Ozone Light because it sounded cool to them. Has nothing to do with creation of O3. Kirk, What do you mean by opaque? Do you mean that none or some of the UV goes through the glass? And quartz? wouldn't that manufacturing proscess be very expensive...resulting in really high retail prices? Kirk McLoren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Its the short uv that produces ozone 275nm? You need the mercury vapor lamps that are made of quartz. Glass is opaque to uv. Kirk Joe Street [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Luke; What is required to create ozone electrically is an arc open to air. The voltage required for this depends on the distance between electrodes or 'air gap' small gap requires lower voltage. Another way is to have a very high voltage which produces a corona. This is not quite like an arc but does cause local ionization of the air around the tip of the sharp electrode. Yes UV light can produce ozone (O3) I cannot remember which wavelength but a mercury arc lamp produces several spectral peaks and one of them causes ozone formation. Yes the high intensity UV light can cause burns to the skin and eyes. As well the ozone is toxic to breathe. On your last comment I am confused. You realize ozone and O3 are the same thing? If the lamp claims to produce ozone then it is producing O3. If it claims not to produce O3 then it cannot be called an ozone lamp! J Luke Hansen wrote: Excellent. I appreciate all of the input. In the past, I've used UV sterylizers in my marine aquaria, but never really had a need for indoor air purification. Now I do, so I'm examining my options. First a few points/questions... * very high voltages are required to create O3, correct? * UV light between certain nanometers creates O3? * This ozone light could also be harmful to people, as well as eliminating airborne pathogens? A side note, I think that the ozone light brags about its safety, and, in fact, states that it doesn't actually create O3. Thanks, Luke Joe Street [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes ozone is a sterilizer and it is also unhealthy to breathe. High voltage arcs produce ozone and also produce nitrogen oxides which are not healthy. Mercury arc lamps produce enough UV to make ozone for sure. So does a laser printer. Usually arc lamps have an outer envelope to keep air away from the actual bulb. UV lamps bright enough to make O3 are dangerous to the eyes. What else about ozonelet's see, ozone disolved in hot deionized water is hell on wheels for anything organic. Works like gang busters as a cleaner for semiconductor wafers. Environmentally freindly! Liquid ozone is something like nitroglycerine, watch out for that one when using cryogenic pumps with oxygen plasmas. Warm them slowly with a nitrogen purgedon't let that ball of frozen ozone melt and drip or we'll see you in the next world. I suppose liquid ozone would beat liquid oxygen for starting a barbeque...lol Don't try this at home kids. Fun with ozone Joe Jeromie Reeves wrote: UV light (when powerful enough) can sterilize many things. There are a number of water plants that use UV for sterilizing. I dunno about the Ozone Lights doing much good on the O3 side (namely, is O3 a sterilizing agent?). I think there are better ways to make O3 such as direct electrical arc (jacobs ladder). Some ion machines also produce O3.Luke Hansen wrote: Hello all,I was just wondering if anyone has heard anything about the effects of these Ozone Lights. I guess that they don't actually create O3, but they do kill airborne pathogens. Most of the online literature that I've found goes back to one study that showed this light effective in killing E. Coli bacteria in clinical trials. Anyone have experiences with this, or anything similiar?Thanks, Luke Any questions? Get answers on any topic at www.Answers.yahoo.com. Try it now.___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Re: [Biofuel] TiO2 (Titanium Dioxide) Lights
not that expensive. Quartz is an industrial material. Sapphire is more expensive- look at a multivapor lamp. The discharge is in a sapphire tube.. Borosilicate glass filters almost all the short uv and a lot of the longwave uv. I used to have some 8 foot quartz tubes. They make ozone quite well. some small bulbs http://www.topbulb.com/find/germicidal.asp http://www.topbulb.com/find/uv.asp Luke Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think that the company that makes these lights just chose Ozone Light because it sounded cool to them. Has nothing to do with creation of O3. Kirk, What do you mean by opaque? Do you mean that none or some of the UV goes through the glass? And quartz? wouldn't that manufacturing proscess be very expensive...resulting in really high retail prices? Kirk McLoren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Its the short uv that produces ozone 275nm? You need the mercury vapor lamps that are made of quartz. Glass is opaque to uv. Kirk Joe Street [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Luke; What is required to create ozone electrically is an arc open to air. The voltage required for this depends on the distance between electrodes or 'air gap' small gap requires lower voltage. Another way is to have a very high voltage which produces a corona. This is not quite like an arc but does cause local ionization of the air around the tip of the sharp electrode. Yes UV light can produce ozone (O3) I cannot remember which wavelength but a mercury arc lamp produces several spectral peaks and one of them causes ozone formation. Yes the high intensity UV light can cause burns to the skin and eyes. As well the ozone is toxic to breathe. On your last comment I am confused. You realize ozone and O3 are the same thing? If the lamp claims to produce ozone then it is producing O3. If it claims not to produce O3 then it cannot be called an ozone lamp! J Luke Hansen wrote: Excellent. I appreciate all of the input. In the past, I've used UV sterylizers in my marine aquaria, but never really had a need for indoor air purification. Now I do, so I'm examining my options. First a few points/questions... * very high voltages are required to create O3, correct? * UV light between certain nanometers creates O3? * This ozone light could also be harmful to people, as well as eliminating airborne pathogens? A side note, I think that the ozone light brags about its safety, and, in fact, states that it doesn't actually create O3. Thanks, Luke Joe Street [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes ozone is a sterilizer and it is also unhealthy to breathe. High voltage arcs produce ozone and also produce nitrogen oxides which are not healthy. Mercury arc lamps produce enough UV to make ozone for sure. So does a laser printer. Usually arc lamps have an outer envelope to keep air away from the actual bulb. UV lamps bright enough to make O3 are dangerous to the eyes. What else about ozonelet's see, ozone disolved in hot deionized water is hell on wheels for anything organic. Works like gang busters as a cleaner for semiconductor wafers. Environmentally freindly! Liquid ozone is something like nitroglycerine, watch out for that one when using cryogenic pumps with oxygen plasmas. Warm them slowly with a nitrogen purgedon't let that ball of frozen ozone melt and drip or we'll see you in the next world. I suppose liquid ozone would beat liquid oxygen for starting a barbeque...lol Don't try this at home kids. Fun with ozone Joe Jeromie Reeves wrote: UV light (when powerful enough) can sterilize many things. There are a number of water plants that use UV for sterilizing. I dunno about the Ozone Lights doing much good on the O3 side (namely, is O3 a sterilizing agent?). I think there are better ways to make O3 such as direct electrical arc (jacobs ladder). Some ion machines also produce O3.Luke Hansen wrote: Hello all,I was just wondering if anyone has heard anything about the effects of these Ozone Lights. I guess that they don't actually create O3, but they do kill airborne pathogens. Most of the online literature that I've found goes back to one study that showed this light effective in killing E. Coli bacteria in clinical trials. Anyone have experiences with this, or anything similiar?Thanks, Luke Any questions? Get answers on any topic at www.Answers.yahoo.com. Try it now.___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
