Re: [Biofuel] Breaking Point
Hi Ivan It has a lot of good points but he is mixing many things, and by doing so it can get discredit easily. Distant bureaucrats or close in bureaucrats it does not matter Distance is better when it comes to bureaucrats. Or maybe that should be bureaucracies, since most of the individuals aren't bad people. And government definitely has its uses. so the breaking has nothing to do with (and I do not agree with it! well... I could agree IF they let my house break away too and it will be the kingdom of Ivan then I agree, but I bet those who want to break away, will not let me break away from them as a house by itself, will they? An Englishman's home is his castle, or it used to be, maybe, but it's difficult to survive by yourself. It's much more possible if you're part of a community. But I sympathise. and if not, why they feel like they could/should and my household can not? I am guessing THEY are drawing the line) I could go one by one down the line but as an over all it sounds like an overexcited guy writing. He's okay. It's aimed at Americans, and in that context it's pertinent: Pay attention, Americans, for we can certainly learn from them. The Federal Reserve.. that I do not understand :-) Does anybody? I don't think its primary function is to be well understood. and I can write pages about it. If anyone can shine any light of why a government doesn't/can't say from tomorrow we start OUR own central Bank Until this globalist banking cartel can be blown up, and its head honchos tossed into a tight dungeon... Doesn't making such a suggestion risk getting your name added to a sinister and ever-growing list of suspects these days? All best Keith Ivan -Original Message- From: Keith Addison Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2012 12:37 PM To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@lists.sustainablelists.org Subject: [Biofuel] Breaking Point http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article33160.htm Breaking Point By Linh Dinh November 28, 2012 Information Clearing House --- Catalans want to break from Spain, again, and secession is also the buzz in Flanders, Scotland, Texas and Vermont. With the global economy collapsing, people everywhere are becoming fed up with being ruled by distant bureaucrats and bankers hell-bent on destroying local livelihoods. Wages are down, jobs lost and entire countries gone bankrupt thanks to government-enabled banking frauds, a process lubricated by increasing centralization and the intertwining of national finances. The private banking cartel generates public and private debts, debt slavery and inflation, and with a common currency, it can more readily screw you across borders. A nation can only control its destiny by being firmly in charge of its currency, like China, for example, and for that, it is often singled out for condemnation, but all fiat currencies are manipulated, with us Americans extra cursed with a Federal Reserve that doesn't work in our interest. Until this globalist banking cartel can be blown up, and its head honchos tossed into a tight dungeon, many people just want to extricate themselves, step by step, from its strangulation. Forced to dumpster dive, abandon their children or jump out windows, millions of Europeans are also fighting back. Pay attention, Americans, for we can certainly learn from them. In Spain, the Indignados protests, with tents occupying public spaces, preceded our own Occupy Movement by several months, but the Spanish didn't stop there. They then mounted a general strike and now, many Catalans are trying to break from their banker-manipulated central government, which has been crippled by these same transnationalists. Imperial and colonial ambitions have often assumed a transnationalist mask. Think of Japan's Greater East Asia Co-Prosperity Zone, Russia's absorption or domination of numerous peoples under Communism, or NATO and the European Union serving American interests. Also, the US has often cited The Free World to justify war on another country, with Libya and Syria the latest examples. Beware, then, of the supranationalist's pitch of mutual peace, security and prosperity, for it often hides an evil reality. Imagine no countries, he'll sing, and the world will be as one, before hushing to murmur the refrain, Imagine no possessions. The European Union started with such promise, but now nearly all the countries are broke. Imagine. As the Catalans fancy life without Madrid, Americans can also dream of existence sans Washington. Jesus, I feel better already, as well as younger and taller. With a visa, and TSA nutcracking and fingering right after landing at Reagan Airport, we can still visit, of course, to marvel at the charred husk of the Federal Reserve, then see Bush's Mission Accomplished flight suit and a panorama of Glenn Beck's rally, complete with a Sarah Palin hologram, at the Smithsonian. At the White House, pensive visitors are welcome to stroke the fabled Lewinsky dress,
Re: [Biofuel] Retail Madness
Hi Robert Tomorrow is the 1st of December, and I'm ALREADY weary of the advertising onslaught . . . Yes! I dread the entire horror movie. Every year at this time I wonder why I didn't become a Trappist, and trying to be one for a month doesn't work. It was a NICE part of living in the East - not that they're exactly anti-consumerist, but there's nothing there that quite matches Christmas. I can't read Chinese or Japanese, so all the neon buy-buy-buy signs were just a kind of rather pretty abstract art to me. BUT the Hong Kong department stores and shopping malls all play incessant Christmas jingles - and don't stop playing them until Chinese Lunar New Year. :-( And of course the Japanese have that awful custom of giving each other presents all the time, which most of the Japanese I know abhor, and they don't have room for them anyway in those cramped little houses, so all the useless trinkets end up, unopened, in the landfill or in the Tokyo Bay reclamation. When they run out of excuses to give presents they use Christmas. There is or used to be a whole mall in Tokyo devoted entirely to Christmas presents, on sale all year round. Think of that. My landlady and I just had a good old moan about it, we're going to boycott it. It won't be easy but we're determined. Bah, humbug. Ah, if only it were so simple as putting a bunch of banksters to the whip in the temple of Wall St! Not to say we shouldn't try that anyway, every little bit helps. I once read a report that New Yorkers buy five million plastic Christmas trees every year, and trash them after 12th night. I wonder what a true carbon cost-accounting of Christmas would tell us. Shop shop shop til the planet doth stop. I don't think Jesus would like it. One year, when I was a young teenager, signs started appearing in all the storefronts in April, yet, saying Buy your Easter presents here! Hmph. Apparently mine wasn't the only hmph, it didn't happen the following year. Anyway, I'll be sending us all a peace-and-goodwill message at the solstice, we all have to help persuade the sun to turn round and come back again, or in the south to push off for awhile so we can cool down. It takes more massed willpower every year. Nice web page Robert. It should be compulsory. Nice title too (reefers are less insane). Regards Keith With all of the very serious issues we're facing as a society, our attention remains focused on consumerist behavior that distracts from our real problems and enables the status quo: http://robertluisrabello.com/retail-madness/ Robert Luis Rabello Adventure for Your Mind http://www.newadventure.ca Meet the People video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txsCdh1hZ6c Crisis video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZedNEXhTn4 The Long Journey video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vy4muxaksgk ___ Sustainablelorgbiofuel mailing list Sustainablelorgbiofuel@lists.sustainablelists.org http://lists.eruditium.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel
Re: [Biofuel] Anti-nuclear madness doesn't jibe with concern about global warming
Yes, I wholeheartedly agree. Monbiot can't be criticized for pointing out the complicated mess we're in. These are sticky issues indeed. Until we recognize, collectively, that a fundamental restructuring lies at the heart of it, we will forever find ourselves choosing whatever seems the least unpalatable. Agree. Lesser-evilism. Though I think many people do recognise that, more and more of them, and they're active. Enough of them? Wrong question, and doubting it is a lousy reason for not getting involved. It needs a phased approach, coordinated and integrated, a grand strategy, and a dogged focus, with a bit of pragmatism where approprate. Occupy is an interesting model, one of many - no leaders, no manifesto, nothing you can grab hold of or subvert, yet everyone knows what to do and why, it's adaptable and flexible, and it drives the MSM and TPTB suitably nuts. For instance, leave the existing nukes for now, perhaps even allow a few new gas-fired plants, focus all efforts on fighting coal and oil. Just an example, not a proposal. I firmly believe that all of the demos, protests, strikes, general outrage and rejection taking place all round the world are part of the same phenomenon, and it won't stop, we won't take no for an answer, we'll keep going until we've won, and then we'll win the peace too. It's not a sudden uprising, though it might look like it from the outside. It's been building for a long time, it has impetus and momentum, it's implacable. . . .In this case, I'm not so sure that he is wrong. It seems to depend somewhat on what time-scale you're looking at. In the shorter term, he might be right. New nukes are a total no-no, but how to set decommissioning existing nukes against building new coal and gas fired plants to replace them, as in Merkel's case? Japan, with all but two of its nukes shut down, has been doing what amounts to the same thing, with huge increases in fossil fuel imports - indeed China, of all countries, just told Japan to cut its carbon emissions. Is it better or worse to leave existing nukes in place and accept their emissions reductions (which are real, in current-account terms), in a time when any and every reduction is crucially important, as all agree it is, or should we close them all down and focus on replacing the power they generate with renewable sources? That will take time (too much time?) and cost money, always a prickly problem. Renewables aren't that great either, especially considering the complete absence of a local approach, it's all top-down. And we long ago agreed that replacement isn't the answer, nor even an option. Or should we commit much more science to geo-engineering? Or is another Fukushima just waiting to happen anyway, whatever we do? All of this leaving aside the answerless question of spent fuel disposal, since it's going to be left aside anyway. As are the bombs. It's easy to understand what you said about low morale, why people say sod it, let's just just leave the whole stinking mess to our noble leaders, who will surely steer our course unerringly towards an ever-glorious future. As opposed to Dyer, who, as Darryl so aptly expressed it, just came off as being of a 'hard path' mindset. He didn't really have an argument, just conclusions. And accusations. There was at once a scornfulness, and a sort of veiled, McCarthyistic fifth-column hysteria. Not to mention a kind of resentful grumbling. Absolutely. Thuggish. It was this last, i think, which led me to question his intellectual honesty and journalistic ethics (especially the bit about the fall in the uranium market). It's what led me to suspect he's spun. Those aren't even his own opinions, they're just implants, from the opinion manufacturing industry. It's why he doth protest so loudly. Methinks. Ha, that's funny. I actually googled Dyer already. The first sentence pretty much told me what I needed to know: military historian. Not that i think that that defines him, per se (i did read the whole article, his docu film work sounds interesting), but it explains a lot wrt his posture in this editorial. Yes it does, it's a bias, his mindset, as Darryl said. Gwynne Dyer http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gwynne_Dyerhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gwynne_Dyer He looks like he can be a grumpy old fart if he wants to be. Anyway, i haven't yet read monbiot's bits from august last year that you posted, so maybe i'll change my mind about him too, lol. Interested to know what you think. - K LOL. I pretty much tipped my hand on that already. :) I just read his 8 Aug., 2011 Guardian column, and the Porritt column he was responding to; as well as the Broadbent piece cited by both. I haven't done any reading or cross-referencing or otherwise looked into any of the various reports and studies that all three of them cite. That being said, it seems to me that Porritt was the more
Re: [Biofuel] Retail Madness
On 12/1/2012 3:13 PM, Keith Addison wrote: Hi Robert Tomorrow is the 1st of December, and I'm ALREADY weary of the advertising onslaught . . . Yes! I dread the entire horror movie. Every year at this time I wonder why I didn't become a Trappist, and trying to be one for a month doesn't work. It was a NICE part of living in the East - not that they're exactly anti-consumerist, but there's nothing there that quite matches Christmas. I can't read Chinese or Japanese, so all the neon buy-buy-buy signs were just a kind of rather pretty abstract art to me. I suppose this is a problem, living in Canada where I CAN read all the advertising messages. This year, however, it seems particularly relentless. After having endured the last election cycle, I'd thought that it might be safe to turn the television on again . . . But it's not just the TV and billboards anymore. Now, I get ads in my e-mail inbox. (I block them on the web, otherwise I'd go nuts, I'm sure!) I'm getting unsolicited ads on my cell phone, too. It seems that everyone wants my money, but when it comes to buying things from me, whether they're education services or really inexpensive e-books, most people decline. I wouldn't mind that so much, but we're ALSO getting this message that if you're not financially successful--whatever THAT means--you're a failure as a human being. BUT the Hong Kong department stores and shopping malls all play incessant Christmas jingles - and don't stop playing them until Chinese Lunar New Year. :-( Ugh! And of course the Japanese have that awful custom of giving each other presents all the time, which most of the Japanese I know abhor, and they don't have room for them anyway in those cramped little houses, so all the useless trinkets end up, unopened, in the landfill or in the Tokyo Bay reclamation. When they run out of excuses to give presents they use Christmas. There is or used to be a whole mall in Tokyo devoted entirely to Christmas presents, on sale all year round. Think of that. I have a friend who is a gift giver. I've asked him to stop doing that, but he counters that this is the means in which he expresses his friendship. Yet I ALWAYS feel obligated, and whenever I wander into a store, drive by the wrecking yard or get a good whiff of the local dump on a windy day, I'm reminded that there is a price we pay for all of this gift giving. I know a lot of people who read my blog and subscribe to this list aren't Christians, yet they share a sense of spiritual connection with the world, its human population and the other creatures who live here--some of them for much longer than we've been around. If we'd stop focusing on stuff and realign our attitudes toward relational harmony, I'm sure we'd be happier. I'm confident that even as we endured the suffering that is normal for life on earth--the sickness, the separation, the accidents--we could face these things with more grace, knowing that we are profoundly connected to one another. Or, maybe your optimism is rubbing off on me . . . ;) My landlady and I just had a good old moan about it, we're going to boycott it. It won't be easy but we're determined. Bah, humbug. Ah, if only it were so simple as putting a bunch of banksters to the whip in the temple of Wall St! Not to say we shouldn't try that anyway, every little bit helps. I once read a report that New Yorkers buy five million plastic Christmas trees every year, and trash them after 12th night. I wonder what a true carbon cost-accounting of Christmas would tell us. Shop shop shop til the planet doth stop. I don't think Jesus would like it. The time will come for destroying those who destroy the earth. That's in the plain text of the scriptures for anyone to read. The principle of stewardship has somehow been distorted, but I'm convinced that we'll be held accountable for our actions here. One year, when I was a young teenager, signs started appearing in all the storefronts in April, yet, saying Buy your Easter presents here! Hmph. Apparently mine wasn't the only hmph, it didn't happen the following year. Oh my! Anyway, I'll be sending us all a peace-and-goodwill message at the solstice, we all have to help persuade the sun to turn round and come back again, or in the south to push off for awhile so we can cool down. It takes more massed willpower every year. Nice web page Robert. It should be compulsory. Nice title too (reefers are less insane). Thank you! I thought the title was clever . . . :) Robert Luis Rabello Adventure for Your Mind http://www.newadventure.ca Meet the People video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txsCdh1hZ6c Crisis video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZedNEXhTn4 The Long Journey video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vy4muxaksgk ___ Sustainablelorgbiofuel mailing list
Re: [Biofuel] Retail Madness
Robert, Nice essay. Buy more stuff. Confuse everyone. That had me in stitches. Just Wonderful. Your post came on the heels of a interview program the other day. This guy had written a book critiquing holiday consumerism. He was pretty good. So somewhere he brings up iron lady thatcher, and i can't remember what the tie-in was but, he mentions that she once said There is no society. (A response to her critics when she was smashing the unions? I don't know. . . .) But what a telling comment. A contemporary of the distinguished gentlemen pictured most of the way down your page. The MSM is so very shameless in its role as 'facilitator'. The tv news actually addressed the fact that the buying fever was already in full swing during the afternoon of Thanksgiving Thursday. How did they frame it? By pointing out how FDR, at the behest of some retail magnate, had had the holiday moved up by a week in order to lengthen the Christmas shopping season. A story which, whether true or not, has long been embedded in U.S. Thanksgiving/Christmas Floklore. But basically the message was, Waddaya know? Turns out Thanksgiving is already artificial-ized and you were none the wiser. We don't even celebrate Thanksgiving on Thanksgiving anymore, but you still get warm, fuzzy feelings about the day. Let's just focus on that. I swear, when they do stuff like that, it's like they're satirizing themselves. Keith, That's hilarious. The Christmas jingles in Hong Kong, too, in a tear-jerking sort of way. ___ Sustainablelorgbiofuel mailing list Sustainablelorgbiofuel@lists.sustainablelists.org http://lists.eruditium.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel
Re: [Biofuel] Retail Madness
Oops, that's hilarious: I can't read Chinese or Japanese, so all the neon buy-buy-buy signs were just a kind of rather pretty abstract art to me. -- ¡Ay, Pachamamita! ¡Eres la cosa más bonita! ___ Sustainablelorgbiofuel mailing list Sustainablelorgbiofuel@lists.sustainablelists.org http://lists.eruditium.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel
