Re: [Biofuel] Alum as coagulant
Alum is not the same as aluminum John D. Greg and April wrote: IIRC, aluminum soaps will thicken fuels, and that was a early way to make napalm. I'm not saying that alum would do this, but, it should be something to keep in mind, as, soap is a byproduct of biofuel production. You would not want a tank full of a flammable sticky gel that does not flow. Greg H. - Original Message - From: Doug Turner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 8:06 Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Alum as coagulant Hi Wes: Thanks for the information. I was wondering if you have determined if adding alum has any impact on processing the WVO into BD. My weak, old, and somewhat suspect knowledge of chemistry tells me that alum will dramatically alter the pH of unbuffered solutions and that some metals (not sure about aluminium) will hasten oxidization rates in vegetable oils, shortening their shelf-life. I don't know enough to figure out for myself if there would be an impact on processing. Any ideas? TIA Doug Turner - Original Message - From: Wes Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 7:38 AM Subject: [Biofuel] Alum as coagulant After a few months of experimenting with Alum (1 liter test batches) I have concluded that Alum is effective to congeal water and most of the black sludge in used cooking oil. By adding about 1 teaspoon of alum to a liter of dirty oil, stirring and leaving to settle for a day or two, there is an obvious clarity to the oil and a layer of sediment at the bottom of the container. To make this process even more attractive, by adding more oil after pouring the clarified oil off the top, the alum seems to be able to clarify the next couple of batches without adding more alum. Adding powdered bentonite seems to help, although I have not tried to separate the effects of each. I would be interested to hear the experiences of others. Wes ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] turbocharged vs supercharged diesels
Zeke Yewdall wrote: to make the diesel even better... turbo the hell out of it but do not put a supercharger on it. This was in another thread going off another direction. But my question is, why not supercharge a diesel engine. There must be some reason, because you don't seem them too often (we have a supercharged 2 cycle 2 cylinder direction injection diesel engine in a 1953 bulldozer, but aside from that I haven't seen one). Is it just that it is higher efficiency to use the heat of exhaust gases that would be wasted anyway, vs taking HP off the crankshaft to run a compressor? But there is a big advantage in materials to a supercharger in that it doesn't have to withstand the heat of the exhaust and go through cooldown after working hard to avoid seizing the bearings, and I would think engine manufacturers would sieze on any cheaper way to get more power out of a diesel (since everyone in the US thinks they are slow...). I have no problem with turbodiesels, just wondering why that design won out over supercharging. On a two stroke Detroit Diesel engine the supercharger is referred to as a scavenge pump or blower. Detroit Diesels being two stroke, simply can't run without one. The blower is used to blow out the exhaust and blow in a fresh air charge all during the same stroke. Its not even using a fraction as much hp as it does on a dragster fueler engine. Detroit Diesels use turbos to make more hp just as the other diesels do. By the way Detroit Diesels were/are used in more, different types of vehicles machinery and came in more, different configurations than any other diesel engine in the world, and no one can dispute that... John Donahue ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Ch 7 10PM News out of Boise
Its much easier to just install 6 taller tires on the rear axel, that way you will be going down hill all the time. You'll get like 800mpg that way Jeromie Reeves wrote: My wife came home from work today talking about Channel 7 news out of Boise. It seams they had a segment with a person who installed a WVO processor in there pick-up (at a cost of 3000$ USD) and got 300 MPG. They still needed to start the vehicle on dino. Can anyone shed some light on this as a Google search came back with less then nothing. I find it very hard to believe this is true (tho that never stopped the news before). Jeromie ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] pussy makes car Purrrrrr
This article is posted above Bede wrote: http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/story.cfm?c_id=2ObjectID=10345772 A German has angered animal rights groups by inventing an organic fuel containing run-over cat remains. Inventor Christian Koch, 55, of Saxony, told the Bild newspaper he had gone 170,000km without a problem in his car on the biofuel. A 50-litre tank used about 20 cats and cost a fifth of usual diesel to produce, he said. Bede Meredith Phone +64 21 892 801 Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.codesmith.info ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Fuel can be made from dead cats
I thought this was amusing and interesting, about a new technology to make fuel from common waste materials. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/09/15/cats_fuel_diesel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[biofuel] Interesting news about crude reserves
Hi: I am a lurker in this group, mostly just reading what others have to say. I ran across this yesterday http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=38645 Regarding the source of petroleum reserves. John Donahue Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Yahoo! Domains - Claim yours for only $14.70 http://us.click.yahoo.com/Z1wmxD/DREIAA/yQLSAA/FGYolB/TM ~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Notify about your e-mail account utilization.
x-charset ISO-8859-1I run Gentoo linux and also am not bothered much by these windows viruses. Whenever I get a virus sent to me I save it to a special folder open it in a hex editor to see what I can see. Why on earth would a windows user open a *.pif, *.bat, *.exe, *.zip, etc attachment that was emailed to them? John Donahue Todd Swearingen - Original Message - From: Doug Foskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 3:32 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Notify about your e-mail account utilization. All I can say is why bother using M$ products? If cars were this unreliable, stopped randomly, you had to get a mechanic out to fix, who would buy that manufacturers cars?? I have not had a virus in 4 years of using Linux. (I now run Mepis, a derivative of Debian Linux that is incredibly easy to install.) Interested parties should get an old box (like a P2/400 or something like that almost due to recycle), pop in a Mepis disc try! The operating system loads directly off the CD, you can be browsing the net in about 20 minutes max. This is something you will never be able to accomplish with M$ software. (It is now possible to take a USB drive with all your configuration data, a Live CD like Mepis, or Knoppix, boot any PC with your system, which is great for travelling.) Enough rant. Linux rocks! regards Doug On Tue, 9 Mar 2004 02:58 pm, Gustl Steiner-Zehender wrote: Hallo, Tuesday, 09 March, 2004, 14:16:27, you wrote: FEF Oh God That's Funny!! It isn't if you neither have a virus scanning program nor know much about computers. There are a lot of folks who fall for this kind of spoof and cause themselves and others a lot of problems. Happy Happy, Gustl FEF At 08:10 PM 3/9/2004 +0100, you wrote: Dear user of Yahoogroups.com, Our antivirus software has detected a large ammount of viruses outgoing from your email account, you may use our free anti-virus tool to clean up your computer software. For more information see the attached file. For security reasons attached file is password protected. The password is 05125. Kind regards, The Yahoogroups.com teamhttp://www.yahoogroups.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *Yahoo! Groups Links* * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/. Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ /x-charset
Re: [biofuel] Notify about your e-mail account utilization.
x-charset ISO-8859-1Please take note: Dude most of these virus warning messages that you get also come loaded with a free virus, that someone is hoping you will open. Remember email headers are easy to spoof, you might even get a message from your internet provider warning you of rampant email viruses. And it too came loaded with a virus for the unsuspecting fool to open. David Kwiatek wrote: I do not understand. I have Norton anti virus and AdAware that I use to keep virus attacks out of my computer. I do not send out email to this group, I just read them. Please advise --- Frederick E. Finch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Oh God That's Funny!! At 08:10 PM 3/9/2004 +0100, you wrote: Dear user of Yahoogroups.com, Our antivirus software has detected a large ammount of viruses outgoing from your email account, you may use our free anti-virus tool to clean up your computer software. For more information see the attached file. For security reasons attached file is password protected. The password is 05125. Kind regards, The Yahoogroups.com team http://www.yahoogroups.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups SponsorADVERTISEMENT Click Here - Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *Yahoo! Groups Links* * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/. Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ /x-charset
