Re: [Biofuel] cost of B100 versus Petro in the Midwest USA
I would like to know the company that is selling for that price I just thought I had found a good deal @ $2.36 a gal. here in Dallas, Tx. And to get that price it has to be by the drum. - Original Message - From: "Brian Rodgers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2005 3:43 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] cost of B100 versus Petro in the Midwest USA >I want some. Even at twice that price > Brian Rodgers > > > On 10/12/05, logan vilas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I don't know if it's just a really good source or what, but I was Quoted >> $1.10 per gallon for methanol. If I bring my own container. If I have to >> buy >> in 55 gallon drums then it is 1.57 per gallon. That was quoted 9/14/05 in >> Thibideaux, Louisiana. >> >> Logan Vilas >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "Zeke Yewdall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: >> Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2005 10:40 AM >> Subject: Re: [Biofuel] cost of B100 versus Petro in the Midwest USA >> >> >> > You forgot to add the road tax and a markup for profit to the >> > biodiesel... Anyone who is selling biodiesel has those costs too. >> > >> > On 10/9/05, Jason and Katie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> I sat here and figured up the ballpark "cost of parts" for BD in a 390 >> >> gallon batch-( i started my numbers with a full 55 gal. drum of >> >> methanol) >> >> >> >> for 2 barrels of methanol (have to have >> >> excess) ~550$ >> >> for 390 gal. >> >> oil. >> >> .Haul-off >> >> for 40 lbs lye(VERY rough >> >> estimate)~140$ >> >> for one cannister of bottle gas (heat >> >> source)..~25$ >> >> >> >> Total >> >> C.O.P... >> >> .~715$ >> >> >> >> Results (Approximate) >> >> ~340 Gallons of ester >> >> ~47 Gallons reclaimed methanol >> >> ~43 gallons glycerine >> >> >> >> Market Value of 340 Gal. of diesel @ >> >> 2.60$/Gal...~884$ >> >> Your >> >> Savings. >> >> ...~169$ >> >> >> >> not to mention if you use the glycerine as a heat source through any >> >> of >> >> the >> >> available ways (digester gas, directly burning it, etc.) the heating >> >> costs >> >> will fall off entirely, and methanol will become cheaper the more you >> >> reclaim the excess, and we could always go to ethanol and add that to >> >> the >> >> equation, which has it's own COP. there are always options. >> >> Now, having read this, can you still tell me BD is more expensive >> >> than >> >> Petro? >> >> >> >> --- >> >> [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] >> >> >> >> >> >> ___ >> >> Biofuel mailing list >> >> Biofuel@sustainablelists.org >> >> http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org >> >> >> >> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: >> >> http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html >> >> >> >> Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 >> >> messages): >> >> http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ >> >> >> >> >> > >> > ___ >> > Biofuel mailing list >> > Biofuel@sustainablelists.org >> > http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org >> > >> > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: >> > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html >> > >> > Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 >> > messages): >> > http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ >> > >> > >> >> >> ___ >> Biofuel mailing list >> Biofuel@sustainablelists.org >> http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org >> >> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: >> http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html >> >> Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 >> messages): >> http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ >> >> > > ___ > Biofuel mailing list > Biofuel@sustainablelists.org > http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 > messages): > http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ > > > ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biof
Re: [Biofuel] SUCCESS!!
I am purchasing from a company here in Dallas called Univar it runs about $2.36 a gallon the only catch is they only sell in drums, 55 gal minimum. - Original Message - From: "Bobby Clark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, October 03, 2005 8:56 AM Subject: [Biofuel] SUCCESS!! > OK, so my first test batch was a success! I am now thinking of scaling up, > but I need to find a cheaper supply of methanol. Any suggestions? > > Thanks, > Bobby Clark > > > > ___ > Biofuel mailing list > Biofuel@sustainablelists.org > http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 > messages): > http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ > > > ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Purchasing a still for ethanol
I have built this still for producing spirits but it can be use to distill about anything, I have not tryed yet but should work well for methonal recovery. http://www.moonshine-still.com - Original Message - From: Bob To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 3:11 AM Subject: [Norton AntiSpam] [Biofuel] Purchasing a still for ethanol Where can I buy a still that can produce fuel grade ethanol (190 proof)? I have read that the charles 803 is a poor still and I have no access to anyone knowledgable enough to build a good enough still without accurate plans. I could possibly pay someone to build one if I knew exactly what to tell them to build. I have done google and JTF and searched this list but have come up with no one that operates a successful fuel still. Thanks Bob Do you Yahoo!?The New Yahoo! Movies: Check out the Latest Trailers, Premiere Photos and full Actor Database. ___Biofuel mailing listBiofuel@sustainablelists.orghttp://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.orgBiofuel at Journey to Forever:http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.htmlSearch the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages):http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Processor
Yes I have made several small patches with nothing but success so far (just pure dumb luck and a lot of good info) I am currently running it my Kubota lawn tractor and its performing very well. Starts easier runs quieter and has a significant power increase but smells like im cooking fries when mowing. Im convienced the water heater is the wrong proccessor for my project, thinkibg of making a cone bottom from a drum and just insulating and coating it for corrosion. - Original Message - From: "Keith Addison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 6:09 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Processor > Hello John, welcome > >>Hello I am new to the bio diesel experience, through this website >>and others I have built a bubble washer and a drying tank. > > I think you should have a good look at this: > http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_bubblewash.html > Washing: Journey to Forever > >>I scavange a water heater that I was going to use for the processor >>but have since heard there maybe some problems with this type. Does >>anyone have any suggestions on the processor and the pump. > > There's a lot of info in the archives about what's wrong with some of > those. The 1" clear water pump usually recommended isn't powerful > enough for a 50-gallon processor, for one thing, unless you're going > to process it for a long time. Best get a stronger pump. > > Look at some of the plumbing schemes in the processor section at the > Journey to Forever website: > http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_processor.html > Biodiesel processors > > This is still the best water heater processor, IMHO, the original: > > The touchless processor > http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_processor.html#touchfree > >>Would like to work with 40-50 gallon batches to start and then later >>move to the 2 stage process. Any help would be greatly appreciated. > > Have you made any small-scale 1 or 2-litre test batches yet? That's > the place to start, with the process, not with the processor. Start > here: > "Where do I start?" > http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_make.html#start > > Best wishes > > Keith > > >> >>John >>CREATIVE SIGNWORKS >>1168 Byron Rd. >>Kaufman, Tx 75142 >>John & Mindy Short >>972-962-7464 > > > ___ > Biofuel mailing list > Biofuel@sustainablelists.org > http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 > messages): > http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ > > > ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Processor
Hello I am new to the bio diesel experience, through this website and others I have built a bubble washer and a drying tank. I scavange a water heater that I was going to use for the processor but have since heard there maybe some problems with this type. Does anyone have any suggestions on the processor and the pump. Would like to work with 40-50 gallon batches to start and then later move to the 2 stage process. Any help would be greatly appreciated. John CREATIVE SIGNWORKS1168 Byron Rd.Kaufman, Tx 75142John & Mindy Short972-962-7464www.creative-sign-works.com[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
