Re: [biofuel] Stuart Energy: Sweden Opens First Hydrogen Fueling Station
Gurus, On a relative note.. What would be the effects of hydrogen fuel cell vehicles on the biodiesel option? Will Biodiesel be obsolete when the Hydrogen fuel cell cars become a reality? Also, what would the economics favor? Wil HFCVs be more cheaper than Biodiesel powered Vechicles? Thanks Amar --- murdoch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/030911/115080_1.html A press release fropm the Canadian Hydrogen solutions company. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for Your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at Myinks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/l.m7sD/LIdGAA/qnsNAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] Need information on Jatropha Oil.
Hi Bio Fuels Gurus, I am very new to this group (and concept). Pls. excuse if this question sounds primitive. Here goes.. I need more information on the Jatropha Oil as a substitute/add-on to diesel. I had been to the jatropha.org site and have some information. But I need to know more about how it compares to Diesel with regards to energy content and is it easier to use it as a Biodiesel or a SVO. Has anyone made an attempt to use it and if yes then what are the problems/issues etc. If it is used as a Biodiesel (ie mixed with diesel ) then how much % of Jatropha oil can be mixed maximum without having to make modifications to the vehicle. Also, any pointers to some other cool websites regarding Jatropha would be appreciated. Thanks in advance for your response. Regards, Amar __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for Your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at Myinks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/l.m7sD/LIdGAA/qnsNAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Mike Pelly biodiesel story in Seattle Times
In our area of central New York state, one of the large super market chains claims they are getting paid for their WVO. Another one in town is tossing the 4.5 gal of WVO in the dumpster (I'm working on them, hoping they'll let me take it instead). The local Walmart is being charged, but won't let me take it because of fear of liability issues. I haven't checked the local fast food chains. It seems best to deal with locally owned private, non franchise stores and restaurants for their WVO, thereby saving them the 40 cents U.S. (on average) per gallon they are charged by the renderers. Every dollar saved helps toward their bottom line. Chris murdoch wrote: Each week Pelly, Ozzy and Nied pick up used cooking oil, or yellow grease, from one of five restaurants in Olympia. They've tried to find more sources, but many of the famous fast-food restaurants, supermarkets and convenience stores you've heard of won't let them have theirs. What do the fast-food restaurants, supermarkets and convenience stores do with their used cooking oil, by and large? Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Plan to Sell a Home? http://us.click.yahoo.com/J2SnNA/y.lEAA/MVfIAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Mike Pelly biodiesel story in Seattle Times
murdoch wrote: In our area of central New York state, one of the large super market chains claims they are getting paid for their WVO. Another one in town is tossing the 4.5 gal of WVO in the dumpster A year or two ago it seemed to me there was a story in the NY Times about New York City Restauraunts illegally (some of them) dumping their waste in the sewers, mucking up the works. Not that this is the same issue, but aren't there any regs against putting such waste in the dumpsters in such amounts? (I'm working on them, hoping they'll let me take it instead). The local Walmart is being charged, but won't let me take it because of fear of liability issues. I haven't checked the local fast food chains. It seems best to deal with locally owned private, non franchise stores and restaurants for their WVO, thereby saving them the 40 cents U.S. (on average) per gallon they are charged by the renderers. Every dollar saved helps toward their bottom line. Chris I'm not sure what a renderer is, but my angle is different than some others'. Companies who collect the waste fats and oils who then supposedly process them into usable comodities. (Hopefully not just landfilling the stuff.) My angle would be as a trouble-maker for the big guys who are needlessly doing the wrong thing. So, it would be less important to me to know of how to buy it from small guys in my own community than to know of specific large companies who are needlessly mucking up the works (literally) by not availing themselves of the most enlightened possible policies (not to mention costing their shareholders money by paying others to haul it away, rather than getting full value for it). I'm going to look into any possible laws on the books concerning dumping of the waste oil in the dumpsters to be landfilled. It would seem that that practice would muck up the works, adding cost to the purification of the leachate glop coming out of our county landfills. If a company like McDonald's or Burger King, for example, does not have enlightened policies in place, or has not put test programs in place with all possible earnestness, then this needs to be brought to light. It's always hard to bring the waste-to-useful-product angle to light, but it has to be done, I think. You're absolutely right. They need to be dragged, kicking and screaming into doing the right thing. Thx for the response, I should add, it is part of the picture I was looking for. You're welcome. Chris Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Plan to Sell a Home? http://us.click.yahoo.com/J2SnNA/y.lEAA/MVfIAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Mike Pelly biodiesel story in Seattle Times
Steve, aren't there any fat recyclers in your area? Or, are the businesses who generate the waste just too cheap? No laws against landfilling? Chris Steve Spence wrote: around here, landfill. Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter Discussion Boards. Read about Sustainable Technology: http://www.green-trust.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: murdoch [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Cc: biofuels-biz@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2002 11:41 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Mike Pelly biodiesel story in Seattle Times What do the fast-food restaurants, supermarkets and convenience stores do with their used cooking oil, by and large? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Sell a Home with Ease! http://us.click.yahoo.com/SrPZMC/kTmEAA/MVfIAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Re: Continuous manufacture of absolute alcohol
Here's a suggestion for downloading the file. This will bypass starting up the browser plugin, and save the file directly to disk. If you bring up the library page on the Journey to Forever site http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel_library/. In IE, right click on the file continuousalcohol.PDF on the library page, where a menu will pop up. Click on Save Target As... in the menu. Choose where you want to save the file, and click the Save button. In Netscape, right click on the file, a menu will pop up. Click on Save Link As... in the menu. Choose where you want to save the file, and click the Save button. Hope this helps. -Chris kirk wrote: Locks up my browser. Have to bring up Windows taskmaster and terminate acrobat reader before I can close window or do anything else Kirk Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Buy Stock for $4 and no minimums. FREE Money 2002. http://us.click.yahoo.com/orkH0C/n97DAA/Ey.GAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send quot;unsubscribequot; messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] Scale sensitivity for measuring lye
I'm looking to purchase a digital scale for weighing out the lye in biodiesel production. My question is, how sensitive a scale is needed? Would a scale with 1 gram readability be fine, or do I need a readability of .1 gram? Your answer would be most appreciated! Chris Amar Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Get your FREE credit report with a FREE CreditCheck Monitoring Service trial http://us.click.yahoo.com/ACHqaB/bQ8CAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] Titration?
Hi Everyone, I've enjoyed lurking here, educating myself from all your postings. I'm finally to the point of doing my first batch of biodiesel. I've read through the Tickell's book as well as read Mike Pelly's process among others. In the Tickell's book they mention under supplies needed: 1 bottle of unopened isopropyl alcohol - yet they don't mention what percent purity I would need. In Mike's recipe he says to use 99%+ pure. As of yet, I've been only able to acquire 91%. Any suggestions out there as to where one would purchase 99% isopropyl alcohol? Or, would the 91% work? Also, I'm looking for a small pump I could purchase that I could use to pump the finished biodiesel through a series of filters down to 5 microns filtration. Any thoughts as to what types of pump would be most suitable and cost effective? I look forward to your suggestions. Best wishes, Chris Amar Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Tiny Wireless Camera under $80! Order Now! FREE VCR Commander! Click Here - Only 1 Day Left! http://us.click.yahoo.com/WoOlbB/7.PDAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/