Re: [Biofuel] Paraguayans 'ill through GM crop pesticide' - 24 Aug 2008 *#
Dear Doug, I see you bought into Al Jazeera's headline. What is the Connection between the crop being GM and the harm caused by the pesticide? Regards, Wendell From: doug swanson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/08/25 Mon AM 07:27:06 EDT To: Biofuel List Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: [Biofuel] Paraguayans 'ill through GM crop pesticide' - 24 Aug 2008 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKCqmuu5sag ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Anybody familiar with a Brown's Gas Injector? *#
Dear Walker, Unfortunately, all electrolysis devices in automobiles share the same fault. They draw their power from the battery. The power creates hydrogen and oxygen or Brown's Gas which is injected with the gasoline/air mixture and burns just fine. However, the alternator draws its energy from the engine. When it is called upon to charge the battery, it draws more energy from the engine than the Brown's Gas produces. Therefore, the gas mileage actually decreases. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxyhydrogen Regards, Wendell From: Walker Bennett [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/06/27 Fri PM 05:02:17 EDT To: biofuel biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: [Biofuel] Anybody familiar with a Brown's Gas Injector? Is anyone familiar with the Brown's Gas (HHO) Injector for automobiles? The technology sounds simple and the web sites rave about them. Supposedly improves gas mileage by 25 mpg. Walker Sedona, Az In The Beginning - ISBN: 1-4116-3848-4 Just In Time - ISBN 1-4116-3851-4 Ad Astra - ISBN: 978-1847285188 -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20080627/3cd29426/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Under Pressure, White House Issues Climate Change Report *#
Dear All, Here is the link to the NY Times article about the government release of reports about global warming and its impacts on all of us pursuant to court order: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/30/washington/30climate.html?themc=th It seems the court order was necessary because of political interference. Regards, Wendell ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] We need these cars *#
Dear Kirk, I don't know whether this particular model is for me, but I am sure there will be many competitors over the next decade. The Zenn folks are to be congratulated. I think the U.S. balance of payments deficit would improve over time if we were to import large numbers of Zenns and less gasoline/diesel/crude. I think we need to be concerned with battery safety and the mine-to-landfill environmental impacts of the batteries. In my case, the electricity would come from wind and small hydro when parked at home; so I welcome the age of the electric car. Regards, Wendell From: Kirk McLoren [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/01/11 Fri AM 01:57:22 CST To: biofuel Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: [Biofuel] We need these cars The ZENN (zero emissions no noise) car. Video, 10 min http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8M88k6Ipp3c - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20080110/58248af2/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] New Low Cost Solar Panels Ready for Mass Production -
Dear All, I'd like to know the relative weight of the new panels as well as the environmental impact of the cadmium telluride from mines to landfills. Regards, Wendell From: Dawie Coetzee [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/09/10 Mon AM 10:37:01 CDT To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] New Low Cost Solar Panels Ready for Mass Production - Don't you hate it when people talk about 100 times less? How little was it to begin with, if the littleness is now 100 times more? Logically, 100 times less means -99 times as much: x - 100x = -99x. Or do they mean 1% as much? If so, this sounds promising. I'd like to have an idea of the durability of these panels, though, compared to the conventional sort, not to mention the wattage per unit of area one might reasonably expect. -D - Original Message From: AltEnergyNetwork [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Monday, 10 September, 2007 4:50:00 PM Subject: [Biofuel] New Low Cost Solar Panels Ready for Mass Production - New Low Cost Solar Panels Ready for Mass Production - Colorado's State Univ.'s panels will cost less than $1 per watt http://www.industryweek.com/ReadArticle.aspx?ArticleID=14932SectionID=4 Sept. 10, 2007 -- Colorado State University's method for manufacturing low-cost, high-efficiency solar panels is nearing mass production. AVA Solar Inc. will start production by the end of next year on the technology developed by mechanical engineering Professor W.S. Sampath at Colorado State. The new 200-megawatt factory is expected to employ up to 500 people. Based on the average household usage, 200 megawatts will power 40,000 U.S. homes. Produced at less than $1 per watt, the panels will dramatically reduce the cost of generating solar electricity and could power homes and businesses around the globe with clean energy for roughly the same cost as traditionally generated electricity. Sampath has developed a continuous, automated manufacturing process for solar panels using glass coating with a cadmium telluride thin film instead of the standard high-cost crystalline silicon. Because the process produces high efficiency devices (ranging from 11% to 13%) at a very high rate and yield, it can be done much more cheaply than with existing technologies. The cost to the consumer could be as low as $2 per watt, about half the current cost of solar panels. In addition, this solar technology need not be tied to a grid, so it can be affordably installed and operated in nearly any location. The process is a low waste process with less than 2% of the materials used in production needing to be recycled. It also makes better use of raw materials since the process converts solar energy into electricity more efficiently. Cadmium telluride solar panels require 100 times less semiconductor material than high-cost crystalline silicon panels. This technology offers a significant improvement in capital and labor productivity and overall manufacturing efficiency, said Sampath, director of Colorado State's Materials Engineering Laboratory. Sampath has spent the past 16 years perfecting the technology. In that time, annual global sales of photovoltaic technology have grown to approximately 2 gigawatts or two billion watts -- roughly a $6 billion industry. Demand has increased nearly 40% a year for each of the past five years -- a trend that analysts and industry experts expect to continue. By 2010, solar cell manufacturing is expected to be a $25 billion-plus industry. Get your daily alternative energy news Alternate Energy Resource Network 1000+ news sources-resources updated daily http://www.alternate-energy.net Alternate Energy Resource Network Blog http://blog.alternate-energy.net/index.php Next_Generation_Grid http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/next_generation_grid Alternative_Energy_Politics http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Alternative_Energy_Politics Tomorrow-energy http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/tomorrow-energy Earth_Rescue_International http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Earth_Rescue_International ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Want ideas for reducing your carbon footprint? Visit Yahoo! For Good http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/forgood/environment.html -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20070910/19cec847/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Re: [Biofuel] Fruit Trees *#
Dear Robert and Benita, You might get some ideas from this guy: http://www.youbetyourgarden.com Good luck !!! Regards, Wendell From: robert and benita rabello [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/06/06 Wed PM 02:55:37 CDT To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: [Biofuel] Fruit Trees Why is it so hard to grow fruit trees? I grew up in a place where oranges, avocados, lemons and grapefruittrees thrived.ÃÂ I have fond memories of climbing the mango tree in mygrandmother's back yard (this in Minas Gerais, Brasil) with my friend,Marcos, and eating mangos until we were drenched in sweet juice andpractically sick of the flavor!ÃÂ I never remember insect infestationsor fruit dropping like I experience here in BC! My cherry tree is losing its fruit again . . .ÃÂ I've done compost,dormant spray, crusher dust and insecticidal soap to limit pestinfestation.ÃÂ I've watered this tree and carefully eliminated anycompeting plants from beneath its drip line.ÃÂ I've done the same for myplum trees, but most of their leaves are withered now and they lookterribly sad.ÃÂ My pair of peach trees have blistered leaves, too! Sigh . . . The rest of my garden is looking really good thus far.ÃÂ But why can't Igrow decent fruit trees? robert luis rabelloThe Edge of JusticeThe Long JourneyNew Adventure for Your Mindhttp://www.newadventure.caRanger Supercharger Project Pagehttp://www.members.shaw.ca/rabello/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Al Gore's 'Inconvenient Truth' Power Use
Dear All, I realize that some of these points have been made earlier in the message chain, but I'd like to tweak them here. The animal manure can first be made into biogas and then the slurry used as fertilizer --some of which can be used to displace fuel intensive fertilizer in the next crop of animal feed. The CO2 from the production of biogas can be fed to algae --both a fuel feedstock and a source of protein for animals or prople. Admittedly, no one has done a great job of producing biofuels from algae yet, but I feel it is just around the corner. A substantial amount of oxygen would be released to the atmosphere by algae in the process. Dinofuel in transportation becomes energy --70 percent wasted as heat at a minimum-- and the rest of the waste clearly trumping the animals as a source of greenhouse gases. Almost no O2 is released in the process. By the way, I seem to recall that termites are the source of 20 percent of the world's methane. I am no entomologist --is there any known benefit to man or beast from termites? If not, let's get 'em! Regards, Wendell From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/03/02 Fri AM 04:13:55 CST To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Al Gore's 'Inconvenient Truth' Power Use Hi Terry Thanks for finding the ref. Hi Keith, You asked for a link to the the UCS quote. It was from the Green Issue of the Vancouver Sun newspaper in Nov. (Vancouver, BC, Can.) The actual quote was, Methane produced by waste on cattle and hog farms is as hard on the atmospher as 33 million cars. 18% of total global emissions. But 33 million cars is only about 15% of the number of vehicles in the US, let alone globally, how can that equal 18% of global emissions? Cattle and hog farms means CAFOs, not farms, or at least in the vast majority of cases. I don't think that's the same as what you said, the total of all livestock on this planet. I think the meat industry would account for a lot more than a paltry 33 million cars' worth of GHGs. I still think that. The claim of 18% of global emissions from CAFOs doesn't sound unreasonable, but the cars bit can't be right, seems to me. Thanks Terry. Best Keith Terry Dyck From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Al Gore's 'Inconvenient Truth' Power Use Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 16:26:10 +0900 Hello Terry Hi Kirk, If all of us did what we should be doing our houses would be one room heated with Geo Thermal, hot water and electricity by solar and we would walk or bike almost everywere This: and we would be totally Vegan. ... is nonsense, as we've established quite thoroughly many times. Please go to the archives and check it out. There is no way of raising crops sustainably without using livestock in the production system. No vegetarian farming system has ever survived the test of time. Please don't argue about it until you've checked it out, no need to go over the same old ground yet another time. The Union of Concerned Scientists reports that because of the amount of Methane gas caused from feed lots, etc. that the total of all livestock on this planet is equivalent to taking 33 million cars of the road. Feed lots, etc? What does the etc mean? I'm sure the amount of GHGs emitted by trees etc is even worse, should we cut them all down too? Do trees share blame for global warming? http://www.csmonitor.com/2006/0119/p13s01-sten.html Globally, living plants may contribute from 10 to 30 percent of global methane emissions. I haven't seen the UCS report you mention, would you give us a reference or a link please? Anyway you're talking about feedlots, CAFOs, Confined Animal Feeding Operations, industrialised factory farms. No CAFOs no meat? That's the same mistake enviros make when they attack fuel ethanol because they don't like Archer Daniel Midlands and Cargill. There are other ways of doing things, as we ought to know by now. There've been a number of high-profile critiques of industrial meat production and global warming, this is the main one: http://www.virtualcentre.org/en/library/key_pub/longshad/A0701E00.htm Livestock's long shadow - Environmental issues and options Food and Agriculture Organization of the United Nations Feedlot cattle, pigs and poultry eat industrialised grain, produced with high dependence on fossil-fuel inputs and at high environmental cost, and the same applies to the CAFO livestock production system itself. Check out how carbon-neutral industrialised grain turns out to be. Pastured livestock eat forage. With CAFOs most of the methane emissions result from the manure storage, especially in with pigs. With pastured livestock, especially with rotational pasture, the manure provides the soil fertility to produce multiple following crops, displaces the need for fossil-fuel based chemical fertilisers, and does so at a healthy profit.
Re: [Biofuel] Human Chip Implantation *#
Dear M K, You do your friends a great disservice by using the TO and CC fields in your e-mail. Someone is probably harvesting their addresses as we speak. VERBUM SAPIENTIBUS SATIS EST Regards, Wendell From: MK DuPree [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/02/20 Tue PM 05:06:34 CST To: Walt Kihm [EMAIL PROTECTED], Tom DuPree [EMAIL PROTECTED], Ted Infranca [EMAIL PROTECTED], Elayne [EMAIL PROTECTED], Steve Cringan [EMAIL PROTECTED], Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED], Ryan Zug [EMAIL PROTECTED], Ray Mendoza [EMAIL PROTECTED], Priscilla Patrick [EMAIL PROTECTED], Patricia Canty [EMAIL PROTECTED], Patricia Canty [EMAIL PROTECTED], MomDad [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mom [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mike Naegele [EMAIL PROTECTED], Michael OConnell [EMAIL PROTECTED], Marla Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED], Larry Fitzgerald [EMAIL PROTECTED], Larry Bethel [EMAIL PROTECTED], Kim [EMAIL PROTECTED], Karla [EMAIL PROTECTED], John Novosel [EMAIL PROTECTED], John Eye [EMAIL PROTECTED], John Eye [EMAIL PROTECTED], John DuPree [EMAIL PROTECTED], George A. Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED], Gen Hostak [EMAIL PROTECTED], Deb Taylor-Bauer [EMAIL PROTECTED], Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED], Danny [EMAIL PROTECTED], Dad [EMAIL PROTECTED], Courtney O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED], Bill Renick [EMAIL PROTECTED], Aunt Shirley [EMAIL PROTECTED], Ann O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED], Jenny [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mike Moffitt [EMAIL PROTECTED], Dennis Eidson [EMAIL PROTECTED], John Naramore [EMAIL PROTECTED], biofuel@sustainablelists.org, Joel Kaczor [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Biofuel] Human Chip Implantation Connect the dots...I know you all thought I was whacked after sending the last email. Now read this. In fact, this story is just over two years old. The FDA approved this chip implantation less than a year before Real ID was passed. In fact, FDA approval was in October, 2004. Real ID was introduced in February, 2005. I hope the motives behind Real ID are beginning to make more sense. We're losing control of our food supply and health care to the pharmaceutical and food/seed companies (see genetically modified foods that need not be labeled, the National Animal Identification Act and mandatory vaccinations against disease that might come through sexual contact). Mike DuPree http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6237364/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Over unity? Shock waves and steam heat *#
Dear D.M., I suppose for now, this machine is one of life's mysteries. A somewhat larger mystery, however, is why someone would buy a machine with a coefficient of performance of 1.6 at best when water source heat pumps are available with a COP of 5.0. Putting this aside for a moment, I assume that the city departments are connected to the grid. So, power is delivered to the device with 30% efficiency or thereabouts. Let's see .3 X 1.6 = .48 throughput when considering the inefficiencies of centralized power. Or the city could use any number of furnace/fuel combinations to get heat at up to 95 percent efficiency, or so. Finally, commercial users are usually charged a premium for electricity based on peak usage for the year. I don't know whether this is the case for municipalities in general or for those in Georgia, U.S.A. Any thoughts? Regards, Wendell From: D. Mindock [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/02/19 Mon AM 03:12:56 CST To: Undisclosed-Recipient:;@unspecified-domain Subject: [Biofuel] Over unity? Shock waves and steam heat http://www.alternativescience.com/over-unity.htm Shock waves and steam heat For more than two years debate has raged on the Internet about an ordinary-looking metal drum sitting on the concrete floor of a factory building in Rome, Georgia, 50 miles from Atlanta. Its inventor, the man about whom the Internet debate is raging, is James Griggs, an industrial heating engineer. The invention that has brought Griggs such notoriety is a device that he began developing in 1987, that he calls the 'Hydrosonic Pump' and that many of his supporters believe is over-unity, in that it generates around 30 per cent more energy as heat than is put in as electricity. To the skeptics, the Griggs Gadget is, at best, a case of self-delusion on a grand scale, and, at worst, a case of scientific fraud. To his supporters, the pump is the first unequivocal public demonstration of undoubted over-unity. Jim Griggs told me, 'the pump is based on a theory of what takes place when a shock wave is created in a fluid. We know that when you create a shock wave in a liquid there is a minute amount of energy released into the fluid in the form of heat.' 'Most of the previous studies had been done in how to eliminate that shock wave, instead of putting the heat to a useful purpose. We've designed a system to take the shock-wave heat energy, capture it, and produce hot water or steam.' Griggs believes that his device works on perfectly normal principles and violates no laws of physics. Just what happens when the Hydrosonic pump is filled up with water and switched on is described by over-unity investigator Jed Rothwell who conducted a detailed engineering investigation of the device in January 1994. 'During one of the demonstrations we watched,' he says, 'over a 20 minute period, 4.80 Kilowatt Hours of electricity was input, and 19,050 BTUs of heat evolved, which equals 5.58 Kilowatt Hours, or 117 per cent of input. The actual input to output ratio was even better than this, when you take into account the inefficiencies of the electric motor.' But if there are kilowatts of excess heat available, why doesn't Griggs simply use the steam to turn a turbine-generator and connect the output to the input -- thus getting a perpetual motion machine? One reason is that converting steam into electricity is an extremely inefficient process. You would be lucky to convert 5 per cent of the output heat energy back into electricity -- and 2 per cent might be nearer the mark. The Hydrosonic pump would therefore have to be massively over-unity before you could recover enough energy to make it self-sustaining, and at present the margin is a 'modest' 30 per cent. More importantly, the excess energy does not actually appear at the output steam pipe for a constant input of energy. What happens is this; the pump is started and after five or ten minutes reaches a steady state where it is converting water at room temperature to steam. Once this steady state is reached, the pump, according to Griggs, goes into an over-unity mode where the output temperature is maintained, but the amount of energy needed at the input to maintain it, drops by 30 per cent. Griggs has been working with a number of physicists and engineers to try to get to the bottom of just how his device works. As well as Jed Rothwell's consulting engineering firm in Atlanta he has worked with Professor Keizios, dean emeritus of the Department of Mechanical Engineering at Georgia Institute of Technology and past president of the American Society of Mechanical Engineers. Professor Keizos supervised the design of the instrumentation that measures the energy input and output of the Griggs Gadget. In a second test, during which the over-unity effect was measured, the adjusted co-efficient of power was a remarkable 168 per cent -- the machine produced 1.68 times the energy that was input.
Re: [Biofuel] Drivers face road charge by satellite in UK *#
Dear DM, This must be a hoax. Any MP with half a brain would just add to the fuel tax to achieve this result. Redgards, Wendell From: D. Mindock [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/01/01 Mon AM 07:04:19 CST To: Undisclosed-Recipient:;@unspecified-domain Subject: [Biofuel] Drivers face road charge by satellite in UK UK - Road tax - Government petition From: Loren Brown Subject: FW: Road tax - Government petition This is the biggest move to tax infringe on privacy ever proposed in this Country [UK]! It was stated on the news this morning (27th November 2006) one of the reasons this proposal has been suggested was to raise money for possible road building and improvements to existing roads. It should be noted that all the money currently collected by the DVLA for road fund licences, only 23% - 24% is actually spent on road building and improvements! The government's proposal to introduce road pricing will mean you having to purchase a tracking device for your car and paying a monthly bill to use it. The tracking device will cost about £200 and in a recent study by the BBC the lowest monthly bill was £28 for a rural florist and £194 for a delivery driver. A non working Mum who used the car to take the kids to school paid £86 in one month. On top of this massive increase in tax, you will be tracked. Somebody will know where you are at all times. They will also know how fast you have been going, so even if you accidentally creep over a speed limit you can expect an NIP with your monthly bill. If you care about our freedoms and stopping the constant bashing of the car driver, please sign the petition on No 10's new website, sign up here http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/traveltax/Even if you don't have a car please feel free to forward this e-mail on. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Petrodollar Warfare: Dollars, Euros and the Upcoming Iranian Oil Bourse *#
Dear Keith, I wonder what Clark's opinion about petroeuros is now that Iran is moving all its reserves --presumably to Asia-- to avoid potential Security Council sanctions. Regards, Wendell Keith Addison wrote: http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article9698.htm Petrodollar Warfare: Dollars, Euros and the Upcoming Iranian Oil Bourse This notion that the United States is getting ready to attack Iran is simply ridiculous...Having said that, all options are on the table. -- President George W. Bush, February 2005 By William R. Clark 08/08/05 MM -- -- Contemporary warfare has traditionally involved underlying conflicts regarding economics and resources. Today these intertwined conflicts also involve international currencies, and thus increased complexity. Current geopolitical tensions between the United States and Iran extend beyond the publicly stated concerns regarding Iran's nuclear intentions, and likely include a proposed Iranian petroeuro system for oil trade. Similar to the Iraq war, military operations against Iran relate to the macroeconomics of 'petrodollar recycling' and the unpublicized but real challenge to U.S. dollar supremacy from the euro as an alternative oil transaction currency. It is now obvious the invasion of Iraq had less to do with any threat from Saddam's long-gone WMD program and certainly less to do to do with fighting International terrorism than it has to do with gaining strategic control over Iraq's hydrocarbon reserves and in doing so maintain the U.S. dollar as the monopoly currency for the critical international oil market. Throughout 2004 information provided by former administration insiders revealed the Bush/Cheney administration entered into office with the intention of toppling Saddam.[1][2] Candidly stated, 'Operation Iraqi Freedom' was a war designed to install a pro-U.S. government in Iraq, establish multiple U.S military bases before the onset of global Peak Oil, and to reconvert Iraq back to petrodollars while hoping to thwart further OPEC momentum towards the euro as an alternative oil transaction currency ( i.e. petroeuro).[3] However, subsequent geopolitical events have exposed neoconservative strategy as fundamentally flawed, with Iran moving towards a petroeuro system for international oil trades, while Russia evaluates this option with the European Union. In 2003 the global community witnessed a combination of petrodollar warfare and oil depletion warfare. The majority of the world's governments - especially the E.U., Russia and China - were not amused - and neither are the U.S. soldiers who are currently stationed inside a hostile Iraq. In 2002 I wrote an award-winning online essay that asserted Saddam Hussein sealed his fate when he announced on September 2000 that Iraq was no longer going to accept dollars for oil being sold under the UN's Oil-for-Food program, and decided to switch to the euro as Iraq's oil export currency.[4] Indeed, my original pre-war hypothesis was validated in a Financial Times article dated June 5, 2003, which confirmed Iraqi oil sales returning to the international markets were once again denominated in U.S. dollars - not euros. The tender, for which bids are due by June 10, switches the transaction back to dollars -- the international currency of oil sales - despite the greenback's recent fall in value. Saddam Hussein in 2000 insisted Iraq's oil be sold for euros, a political move, but one that improved Iraq's recent earnings thanks to the rise in the value of the euro against the dollar. [5] The Bush administration implemented this currency transition despite the adverse impact on profits from Iraqi's export oil sales.[6] (In mid-2003 the euro was valued approx. 13% higher than the dollar, and thus significantly impacted the ability of future oil proceeds to rebuild Iraq's infrastructure). Not surprisingly, this detail has never been mentioned in the five U.S. major media conglomerates who control 90% of information flow in the U.S., but confirmation of this vital fact provides insight into one of the crucial - yet overlooked - rationales for 2003 the Iraq war. Concerning Iran, recent articles have revealed active Pentagon planning for operations against its suspected nuclear facilities. While the publicly stated reasons for any such overt action will be premised as a consequence of Iran's nuclear ambitions, there are again unspoken macroeconomic drivers underlying the second stage of petrodollar warfare - Iran's upcoming oil bourse. (The word bourse refers to a stock exchange for securities trading, and is derived from the French stock exchange in Paris, the Federation Internationale des Bourses de Valeurs.) In essence, Iran is about to commit a far greater offense than Saddam Hussein's conversion to the euro for Iraq's oil exports in the fall of 2000. Beginning in March 2006, the Tehran government has plans to begin competing with New York's
Re: [Biofuel] Modification of cars to use biodiesel and insurance *#
Dear Tim, I am sure the U.S. Navy produces biodiesel at several locations. I am afraid the San Diego Naval Base is the only one I can recall without going to Google. Perhaps you should raise this issue with your management team --you could become a hero and spend the rest of your life as an idea man. Good luck !!! Regards, Wendell Tim Hadland wrote: hello from leicestershire! I have just discussed the fact i am going to run my car on bio diesel with my insurance company. I have used Norwich union, and the pay as you drive option (i am in the merchant navy and dont use my car for 4 month periods and i am still a young driver) I wish ships used biodiesel, they use residual or heavy fuel oil - solid at room temperature. Nasty stuff, which gets treated through heating and settling, heating and purification - centrifuging out water and solids, and filtering at various stages before being burnt in the engine. Already and ideal set-up for using biodiesel. Would make work feel more healthy with reduced nasty fumes and probably much safer. Anyway back to insurance. I was told if i were to have any mod done to my fuel system such as a heated fuel filter it would have to be installed by a qualified and certified bio diesel installer !? None in Leicestershire, in fact i dont know of anyone in the midlands. I feel well qualified as a marine engineer. Has anyone else had insurance probs with modifications? cheers, and happy new year for tmw. TIM HADLAND ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[biofuel] High Fuel Costs Put Focus on Renewable Energy *#
[Image] IE.M High Fuel Costs Put Focus on Renewable Energy http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=storycid=570u=/nm/20040527/sc_nm/energy_renewables_dcprinter=1 --- U.S. Business News, May 30, 2004, Bedminster, New Jersey. 1,000 persons an hour die of hunger somewhere in the World. 750 of them are children under age 5. Given fertile land, people will feed themselves. Agroforestry, the art and science of interspersing livestock and farm crops with trees and shrubs, helps to restore the land. Planting trees anywhere in the world makes the air cleaner for all of us. Trees give off oxygen while storing carbon. The roots and ground cover minimize soil erosion. Some of the leaves can be harvested to feed cattle. The rest serve as natural compost called green manure. Farmed-out ground can become quite fertile because of this natural process. Given time, hard work, and good management, as many as 80 poor families can improve their diets and lifestyles on as little as 20 acres of previously infertile land. Source of some information: http://www.TreesFTF.org Trees for the Future. He that planteth a tree is the servant of God, He provideth a kindness for many generations, And faces that he hath not seen shall bless him --Henry van Dyke, 1852-1933 --- Thank you for your time and have a great day, Wendell --- [Image] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Yahoo! Domains - Claim yours for only $14.70 http://us.click.yahoo.com/Z1wmxD/DREIAA/yQLSAA/FGYolB/TM ~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] Biomass Could Reduce CO2 Emissions, Report Says *#
[Image] IE.M Biomass Could Reduce CO2 Emissions, Report Says http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=storycid=570u=/nm/20040527/sc_nm/environment_biomass_dcprinter=1 --- U.S. Business News, May 30, 2004, Bedminster, New Jersey. 1,000 persons an hour die of hunger somewhere in the World. 750 of them are children under age 5. Given fertile land, people will feed themselves. Agroforestry, the art and science of interspersing livestock and farm crops with trees and shrubs, helps to restore the land. Planting trees anywhere in the world makes the air cleaner for all of us. Trees give off oxygen while storing carbon. The roots and ground cover minimize soil erosion. Some of the leaves can be harvested to feed cattle. The rest serve as natural compost called green manure. Farmed-out ground can become quite fertile because of this natural process. Given time, hard work, and good management, as many as 80 poor families can improve their diets and lifestyles on as little as 20 acres of previously infertile land. Source of some information: http://www.TreesFTF.org Trees for the Future. He that planteth a tree is the servant of God, He provideth a kindness for many generations, And faces that he hath not seen shall bless him --Henry van Dyke, 1852-1933 --- Thank you for your time and have a great day, Wendell --- [Image] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Yahoo! Domains - Claim yours for only $14.70 http://us.click.yahoo.com/Z1wmxD/DREIAA/yQLSAA/FGYolB/TM ~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Re: Anyone know of a good list for saving energy in the home? *#
Dear Laren, Thank you for your thoughtful reply. The interior moisture is almost always lower in one's home with central air running. In my case, in humid New Jersey, I have a dehumidifier running in the utility room to take some of the load off the central air. I stand on my primary statement that ease or joy should govern this choice rather than the close call for energy savings in this instance. Regards, Wendell LarenCorie wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote; It seems to me that it is better to cook where you find the most ease or joy. It occurs to me that if the outside temperature is 90 F and the inside is 76 F, it would not take very many trips to add enough heat and moisture to your home to outweigh the savings in heat from cooking outdoors. Moisture? Isn't this thread about a house in an arid climate? If there is a 4 mph breeze blowing through the door while it is open, and you have to pass through the door six times. Each time you pass through the door it remains open four seconds. That will give you just over 576BTUs, and the outdoor air will probably be drier than the interior air. That is equal to the amount of energy released burning one ounce of charcoal. It would take 96 trips to break even with just one pound of charcoal. It is also equal to one small electric stove burner being on for 6.75 minutes, or an 8 burner for 4.8 minutes, or the oven on for 2.5 minutes, a 1200 watt microwave for 8.4 min. -Laren Corie- http://groups.yahoo.com/group/WoodGas Generate electricity from wood Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT [click here] --- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Make a clean sweep of pop-up ads. Yahoo! Companion Toolbar. Now with Pop-Up Blocker. Get it for free! http://us.click.yahoo.com/L5YrjA/eSIIAA/yQLSAA/FGYolB/TM ~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Anyone know of a good list for saving energy in the home? *#
Dear Murdoch, It seems to me that it is better to cook where you find the most ease or joy. It occurs to me that if the outside temperature is 90 F and the inside is 76 F, it would not take very many trips to add enough heat and moisture to your home to outweigh the savings in heat from cooking outdoors. Regards, Wendell murdoch wrote: PS: I wonder if making a point of cooking outside, no matter what the fuel type on the grill, could help avoid uneccessarily adding heat to the house one is trying to cool. For that matter, I wonder what grills are partly biofueled. I know that there is a grill for sale at one place that I'm told the Mexicans often use that is partly Mesquite wood-fired though it also, (I'm told) requires charcoal. I haven't bought one, as there were none in-stock, but I guess there are various considerations, such as the inconvenience (to some) of going outside, and of following common-sense fire-precautions. Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT [click here] --- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Make a clean sweep of pop-up ads. Yahoo! Companion Toolbar. Now with Pop-Up Blocker. Get it for free! http://us.click.yahoo.com/L5YrjA/eSIIAA/yQLSAA/FGYolB/TM ~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Anyone know of a good list for saving energy in the home? *#
Dear Darryl, I seem to recall one solution to adding thermal mass to homes in the Arizona desert. A pit is built beneath the home and filled with boulders --lots of mass. At night, cool air is drawn across the boulders from the outside on its way to the internal cooling ducts. During the day, the air from the return is drawn across the boulders on its way to the air conditioner. Regards, Wendell Darryl McMahon wrote: Ryan Morgan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, It's almost summertime, and for those of us in the Arizona desert that means high energy bills for cooling. I am looking for a good list on how to save energy (mainly to enquire on proper AC control.) If any of you can shed light on my problem, it would be much appreciated: I have a two story home (3,200 sqft) with two central air conditioning units. The unit for the second story is smaller and uses less electricity when in use. I have top-grade insulation and energy efficient windows and doors. I have just purchased two Honeywell programmable thermostats to control the units, and am wondering how to set them. My electric company offers an on-peak, off-peak plan that I am on. Electricity costs 0.165 cents per kWh from 1:00PM to 8:00PM and 0.0369 cents all other times. Therefore, I have set my units to run (for the most part) before and after 1:00-8:00 PM. Basically the house will be cooled to 77 degrees in the off peak hours and allowed to warm to 84 degrees in the on-peak hours. Is this a good plan for efficiency? Can my upstairs unit alone do the job of cooling the house efficiently during on-peak hours? Any ideas? TIA, Ryan Try the homeenergysolutions list on Yahoo groups. Spend time on Hakan's site which he has mentioned already (energysavingnow). I'll put in a shameless plug for my website (http://www.econogics.com) which offers a signficant amount of information on saving energy in the residential sector. Todd's response was excellent and concise (I'm filing that one away myself). As Keith noted, there have been some good discussions on this topic on this list in the past. Probably worth searching the archives (see standard list trailer at the end of this note on where to find that). I have not been to the Arizona desert, however, it is my understanding that it gets cold there at night (at least lower than room temperature). If so, you may be better off using ventilating fans than the air conditioner to bring in cooler outside air to do the cooling at night than running even a small air conditioner. Look for ways to increase the thermal mass within your house, so that you will be storing more coolth at night, so that it will take longer for the house to heat up during the day. Thermal mass is what adobe construction is all about. -- Darryl McMahon http://www.econogics.com/ It's your planet. If you won't look after it, who will? Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT [click here] --- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Make a clean sweep of pop-up ads. Yahoo! Companion Toolbar. Now with Pop-Up Blocker. Get it for free! http://us.click.yahoo.com/L5YrjA/eSIIAA/yQLSAA/FGYolB/TM ~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] E-85 rollout was biodiesel business *#
Dear Murdoch, I think the subsidy the controlling factor in the failure to introduce E-85 across the country. I believe that the subsidy to the blender is 5.8 cents a gallon of finished product here in the U.S.A. So, the E-10 has, in effect, a subsidy of 58 cents a gallon of ethanol. The E-85 has, in effect, a subsidy of 6.8 cents a gallon of ethanol. Therefore, this blend is more expensive at the pump. Please correct me if I am wrong about who gets paid how much by the federal government. Regards, Wendell murdoch wrote: On Mon, 3 May 2004 23:35:47 -0700, you wrote: You bring up a good point. It's hard to find green business people, since there's a lot more money to be made elsewhere. I totally encourage your efforts Tomas. My 2 cents on your question: maybe you could contact other schools that use biodiesel in their fleets and see what they've done. I know they are out there but not sure which ones they are. As for biodiesel business, I have noticed in the past few weeks that: - there are a LOT of homebrewers and co-ops (yay!) - there are NOT a lot of commercial biodiesel suppliers or retail biodiesel stations. Even though in my (very non-MBA) head it seems like a pretty simple and straightforward thing to do commercially (except maybe the government hoops - ASTM standards and all that). I think co-ops and homebrews have their place but a biodiesel station franchise, for example, that uses its profits to add more biodiesel stations, sounds like a fantastic way to leverage capitalism to undermine our dependence on foreign oil. What are the roadblocks preventing biodiesel business from taking off? Lack of green MBAs? OPEC politics? Expensive required EPA testing (I don't understand this issue at all)? Not enough waste veg. oil to meet demand? Not enough diesel passenger cars out there? Seems like if biodiesel were easily available along major commutes in major cities, ordinary folks would gladly pay less per gallon for biodiesel and feel good about themselves for saving the environment and preventing future wars to boot. I think, in addition to the hypotheses you mention, we could question that the fuel distribution and retailing business is a different issue from the fuel production business. If you make a great amount of consistently high-quality biodiesel, where do you go with it? Should we expect the Exxon Station down the street to sell it, and a pump right next to dino diesel? Even if the station owner has his heart in the right place and wants to help us, I question whether there wouldn't be tremendously powerful forces at work preventing him from doing that. I haven't really investigated this at length, but I think this partly explains why it took so long to build E-85 distribution into the U.S. fuel distribution system. In short over-simplification: we're asking petro-sellers to sell the fuel of their competitor, without them having much incentive to do so. It has taken awhile to figure out how to get that to happen. I'll tell ya, I was born an engineer and the acronym MBA always made my stomach turn, but I'd get an MBA in a heartbeat if I knew I could use it to start a biodiesel business from which I could make a decent living. Girl Mark's group was recently started to discuss some small-scale biofuel business issues: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/local-b100-biz/ I tend to agree on initial gut reactions to the MBA acronym. Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL
Re: [biofuel] Using Prius as an electric car *#
Dear B.D., The parking lot is a great idea. I hope we a a few landlords/entrepreneurs on the list put it to use. Perhaps the charge could be done for free during certain hours to be competitive with parking lots not supplying the service. Maybe commuter parking lots could charge for free to induce multi-modal commuters to participate in such programs or to buy the cars in the first instance. Keep up the good thinking. Regards, Wendell Busyditch wrote: Ideally, one should be able to charge their battery using a biofuel powered genset. Not a reality for most, but imagine someone setting up an urban regeneration station/parking lot to charge your vehicle overnight using such a generator. The ideas are boundless, just enough inspiration to make them work. busyditch - Original Message - From: Michael To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 12:56 AM Subject: [biofuel] Using Prius as an electric car I hope everyone realizes that the energy comes from a dirty power plant, and then loses energy traveling down the power lines, to their plug, and then loses energy in the rectifier, and in charging the batteries, and in discharging the batteries.Very Respectfully, Michael http://www.RecoveryByDiscovery.com Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Terminated accounts *#
Dear J.S., In a week or two, Google.com will be offering G-mail. 1 GB of storage for free. The catch: your mail will be scanned by mini-spiders, so that context-specific advertising will be sent to you as a part of some incoming letters. By using that address, you won't have to worry about losing one at the whim of Yahoo. The primary reasons for losing a yahoo address: MLM, networking, viral marketing, rotaters, dating, hair restoral, lotions, and potions. Regards, Wendell Keith Addison wrote: j_schearer2000 wrote: What is it with Yahoo and terminating accounts? Yahell. And, sorry, dunno. I doubt they do either. Live in their own little universe, do the good folks at Yahell. This morning, I went to check my email and my password did not respond. I dug a little further and Yahoo stated that my previous account (j_schearer) had been terminated with no explanations. It may have been terminated, but if so it hasn't yet percolated through to the list data and you should still be receiving messages via that account. That's this address, right? j_schearer [EMAIL PROTECTED] It's still listed in the list membership database as an active account, set for Digest mode. Are you now receiving two digests? Oh - I see your new account is set to No email, Web only. Well are you still receiving one digest then, via the old account? Went in and made a new one, but this is frustrating, because now I have to change my email address with a few vendors including my bank. Looks like biobenz had the same trouble. Wonder if anyone else has had this trouble. Seems to me Yahell's fooling with passwords rather than with accounts themselves. biobenz just unsubscribed and then resubscribed again, so maybe he's also having some bother. His previous address, [EMAIL PROTECTED], is also still functional. His new address is with a different ISP, but his old one and both yours are Yahoo. Maybe it's only Yahoo. I'd also like to know if anyone else is having this trouble. If you're still receiving messages via the old address and don't want to, you can unsubscribe, but make sure to send the unsub message from the old address. Sorry you're having problems. Best Keith Addison List owner Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT [click here] --- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] Relative exposure to radiation by cell phones *#
[Image] M U.S. Business News, July 12, 2003, Washington, D.C. Where to find the relative amount of exposure with your particular cell phone: http://www.fcc.gov/oet/fccid/ The FCC requires that wireless phones sold in the United States demonstrate compliance with human exposure limits adopted by the FCC in 1996. The relative amount of RF energy absorbed in the head of a wireless telephone-user is given by the Specific Absorption Rate (SAR), as explained above. The FCC requires wireless phones to comply with a safety limit of 1.6 watts per kilogram (1.6 W/kg) in terms of SAR. Information on SAR for a specific pho*ne model can be obtained for many recently manufactured phones using the FCC identification (ID) number for that model. The FCC ID number is usually printed somewhere on the case of the pho*ne. Sometimes it may be necessary to remove the battery pack to find the number. Once you have the ID number, go to the above Web address. On this page, you will see instructions for entering the FCC ID number. Type the FCC ID number exactly as requested (the Grantee Code is the first three characters, the Equipment Product Code is the rest of the FCC ID number). Then cli*ck on Start Search. The Grant of Equipment Authorization for your telephone should appear. Read through the grant for the section on 'SAR Compliance,' 'Certification of Compliance with FCC Rules for RF Exposure' or similar language. This section should contain the value(s) for typical or maximum SAR for your phone. At the very least, one might consider comparing the rating on your current pho*ne with any new pho*ne you would like to buy. Buy a pho*ne only if it has a better rating than your current one. If there is no rating for a particular pho*ne, do not buy it. Of course the use of a hands-free device reduces the exposure of the brain of the user to radiation. (Some users, particularly teenagers, may require a phonectomy. ;-) Science News, February 22, 2003: A single 2-hour exposure to the microwaves emitted by some cell phones kills brain cells in rats, a group of Swedish researchers claims. If confirmed, the results would be the first to directly link cell-phone radiation to brain damage in any animal. . . . Cell phones typically operate at a peak output power of 0.6 watt. . . . Examination of the animals' brain tissue 50 days later revealed that up to 2 percent of the brain cells of rats that had received cell-phone radiation exposures of 0.1 watt or greater were dead or dying. The hippocampus, cortex, and brain stem suffered the most damage. The [control] groups showed no significant brain-cell death. VERBUM SAPIENTIBUS SATIS EST. END U.S.B.N., July 12, 2003. --- --- [Image] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
