Re: [Biofuel] A Greener Commute
Hi Chris you're right, keith. thanks for taking the time to point that out. Sorry I didn't reply direct. it's a sort of double-think process. Yes indeed. there's no doubt in my mind that many of those who have dialed down their sense of urgency vis a vis global warming still believe it's a serious problem, but the mild temps means part of their mind starts to listen to the denial arguments, if only to allow themselves to postpone the inevitable adjustments. It's a stronger message anyway. Not in content or veracity of course, but that doesn't matter much with such a powerful delivery system, it fools enough of the people enough of the time. Or maybe not. Too soon to tell. It's wasted 22 years already, but there's still hope. the whole consumerist paradigm is indeed fundamental. i wanted to tie that in but was a bit pressed for time so tried to hint at it while making my main point. re, the hertzen quote, it definitely has a grim appeal. those russian arnachists were some bad actors, weren't they? They sure were. I guess that's what it took. Alexander Herzen, speaking a century ago to a group of Russian anarchists working to topple the czar, reminded his followers that they were not there to rescue the system. We think we are the doctors, Herzen said. We are the disease. http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/msg74748.html It just came up again, in a piece by Alexander Cockburn on Obama bailing out the banksters: Obama is not seeking to reform the financial system, and it would be beyond miraculous if he did, since the contrivers of the present mess--Lawrence Summers, et al--were given a welcoming clap on the back by the new president, as he stepped into the White House and told them to get on with the job. This amazing bailout for the existing corrupt system--as if Lenin had used the October revolution to restore the Romanovs--has been engineered without significant opposition from organized labor or the left-liberal end of Obama's own party. - All the Populism Money Can Buy, October 23-25, 2009 http://www.counterpunch.org/cockburn10232009.html :-) A neat comparison. Hm. I also said People want to do the right thing but they're drenched in all the consumerist spin. I can't blame them for that, I can only admire those that aren't. Can't blame them maybe, but it's hard to like some of them: Paranoia for Breakfast, by David Michael Green, October 24, 2009 http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article23806.htm Terror from the Right - 75 plots, conspiracies and racist rampages since Oklahoma City, 07/01/2009 http://www.splcenter.org/news/item.jsp?aid=383 :-( I think I prefer the Russian anarchists. Best Keith ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] A Greener Commute
excellent links. the splc list is interesting in the preponderence of items from the clinton years: could that explain at least in part why the republicans so zealously pursued his undoing? equally noteworthy is the complete lack of awareness the american public has, either of the crimes and conspiracies themselves (the msm strikes again), or of the fact that most of the perpetrators are already back on the streets. and d. m. green's column recalled the recent discussion here concerning that study about belief vs. evidence. which begs the question, what if a similar study were constructed around the issue of these individuals, their crimes and their motives, and addressed in particular the question of the sentences they served? and then what if the issue of guantanamo were raised. . . ? ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] A Greener Commute
is an oxymoron, like deader. Green commute might be perfectly sensible if it refers to a ten-minute walk; better if it means merely going downstairs. It is becoming clear that the problem is the economic need for mobility. Nothing that preserves that need can be regarded as a solution. And as for anything involving a Prius, I think I can vouch for the toxicity of the puffs of smoke that emanate from my ears every time I see one ... -D From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Monday, 26 October, 2009 22:44:44 Subject: [Biofuel] A Greener Commute MOTHER JONES October 26, 2009 http://ga3.org/ct/hdahf0n1FrqP/A Greener Commute Considering how much car travel affects a http://ga3.org/ct/h1ahf0n1Frqp/person's carbon footprint?, I'm always looking for ways to cut down on my driving time. Luckily for me, the commute isn't a problem, since a rapid-transit train whisks me under the San Francisco Bay practically to MoJo HQ's doorstep every day. But if you don't live near public transportation or a bike-friendly commute (and you don't happen to have an extra 25 grand kicking around for a Prius), you're probably going to have to get creative. One idea: Get a GPS device. The technology company Navteq recently http://ga3.org/ct/U7ahf0n1Frqi/found that German drivers who were given navigational devices with real-time traffic information increased their fuel economy by an average of 12 percent. The researchers calculated that GPS systems could save 2,006 pounds of carbon per driver per year, a 24 percent reduction from current emissions levels. An ABC http://ga3.org/ct/ipahf0n1FrqC/poll estimated the average American commute at 16 miles one way, creating about 29.3 pounds of CO2 round-trip every day. According to the Navteq researchers' findings, then, getting a GPS device is the same as not driving to work 68 days every year. A caveat: Since Navteq, the company behind the study, sells software to GPS manufacturers, it has a vested interest in touting the benefits of navigational systems. Still, some independent traffic-savvy types told me they think that the study is solid, if taken with a few grains of salt. First, the study was conducted in Germany-and any American who's been to Europe knows that US freeways take crowded to an entirely different level. Another problem: Once everyone starts using the alternate route that a GPS suggests, it's, well, no longer an alternate route. The impact for any one driver may be somewhat smaller if more people use these devices and start to clog up alternate routes, said Tai Stillwater, a graduate student who studies traffic and sustainability at the University of California-Davis. If you don't want to shell out for a GPS (they run about $150-$200), consider these fuel efficiency http://ga3.org/ct/ydahf0n1Frqo/tips. You can also talk to your boss about telecommuting a few days a week. And for advice on whether to junk your clunker in favor of a hybrid, read our piece on the subject http://ga3.org/ct/n7ahf0n1FrqH/here. http://ga3.org/ct/hdahf0n1FrqP/[READ MORE] The bottom line: Public transit's the best way to cut your commute-related emissions, but if you're stuck with a daily drive, using a GPS system to find alternate routes could improve your fuel efficiency considerably. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] A Greener Commute
Greener commute is an oxymoron. In fact greener is an oxymoron, like deader. Green commute might be perfectly sensible if it refers to a ten-minute walk; better if it means merely going downstairs. It is becoming clear that the problem is the economic need for mobility. Nothing that preserves that need can be regarded as a solution. And as for anything involving a Prius, I think I can vouch for the toxicity of the puffs of smoke that emanate from my ears every time I see one ... -D From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Monday, 26 October, 2009 22:44:44 Subject: [Biofuel] A Greener Commute MOTHER JONES October 26, 2009 http://ga3.org/ct/hdahf0n1FrqP/A Greener Commute Considering how much car travel affects a http://ga3.org/ct/h1ahf0n1Frqp/person's carbon footprint?, I'm always looking for ways to cut down on my driving time. Luckily for me, the commute isn't a problem, since a rapid-transit train whisks me under the San Francisco Bay practically to MoJo HQ's doorstep every day. But if you don't live near public transportation or a bike-friendly commute (and you don't happen to have an extra 25 grand kicking around for a Prius), you're probably going to have to get creative. One idea: Get a GPS device. The technology company Navteq recently http://ga3.org/ct/U7ahf0n1Frqi/found that German drivers who were given navigational devices with real-time traffic information increased their fuel economy by an average of 12 percent. The researchers calculated that GPS systems could save 2,006 pounds of carbon per driver per year, a 24 percent reduction from current emissions levels. An ABC http://ga3.org/ct/ipahf0n1FrqC/poll estimated the average American commute at 16 miles one way, creating about 29.3 pounds of CO2 round-trip every day. According to the Navteq researchers' findings, then, getting a GPS device is the same as not driving to work 68 days every year. A caveat: Since Navteq, the company behind the study, sells software to GPS manufacturers, it has a vested interest in touting the benefits of navigational systems. Still, some independent traffic-savvy types told me they think that the study is solid, if taken with a few grains of salt. First, the study was conducted in Germany-and any American who's been to Europe knows that US freeways take crowded to an entirely different level. Another problem: Once everyone starts using the alternate route that a GPS suggests, it's, well, no longer an alternate route. The impact for any one driver may be somewhat smaller if more people use these devices and start to clog up alternate routes, said Tai Stillwater, a graduate student who studies traffic and sustainability at the University of California-Davis. If you don't want to shell out for a GPS (they run about $150-$200), consider these fuel efficiency http://ga3.org/ct/ydahf0n1Frqo/tips. You can also talk to your boss about telecommuting a few days a week. And for advice on whether to junk your clunker in favor of a hybrid, read our piece on the subject http://ga3.org/ct/n7ahf0n1FrqH/here. http://ga3.org/ct/hdahf0n1FrqP/[READ MORE] The bottom line: Public transit's the best way to cut your commute-related emissions, but if you're stuck with a daily drive, using a GPS system to find alternate routes could improve your fuel efficiency considerably. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20091027/887fab52/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] A Greener Commute
. It is becoming clear that the problem is the economic need for mobility. Nothing that preserves that need can be regarded as a solution. And as for anything involving a Prius, I think I can vouch for the toxicity of the puffs of smoke that emanate from my ears every time I see one ... -D From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Monday, 26 October, 2009 22:44:44 Subject: [Biofuel] A Greener Commute MOTHER JONES October 26, 2009 http://ga3.org/ct/hdahf0n1FrqP/A Greener Commute Considering how much car travel affects a http://ga3.org/ct/h1ahf0n1Frqp/person's carbon footprint?, I'm always looking for ways to cut down on my driving time. Luckily for me, the commute isn't a problem, since a rapid-transit train whisks me under the San Francisco Bay practically to MoJo HQ's doorstep every day. But if you don't live near public transportation or a bike-friendly commute (and you don't happen to have an extra 25 grand kicking around for a Prius), you're probably going to have to get creative. One idea: Get a GPS device. The technology company Navteq recently http://ga3.org/ct/U7ahf0n1Frqi/found that German drivers who were given navigational devices with real-time traffic information increased their fuel economy by an average of 12 percent. The researchers calculated that GPS systems could save 2,006 pounds of carbon per driver per year, a 24 percent reduction from current emissions levels. An ABC http://ga3.org/ct/ipahf0n1FrqC/poll estimated the average American commute at 16 miles one way, creating about 29.3 pounds of CO2 round-trip every day. According to the Navteq researchers' findings, then, getting a GPS device is the same as not driving to work 68 days every year. A caveat: Since Navteq, the company behind the study, sells software to GPS manufacturers, it has a vested interest in touting the benefits of navigational systems. Still, some independent traffic-savvy types told me they think that the study is solid, if taken with a few grains of salt. First, the study was conducted in Germany-and any American who's been to Europe knows that US freeways take crowded to an entirely different level. Another problem: Once everyone starts using the alternate route that a GPS suggests, it's, well, no longer an alternate route. The impact for any one driver may be somewhat smaller if more people use these devices and start to clog up alternate routes, said Tai Stillwater, a graduate student who studies traffic and sustainability at the University of California-Davis. If you don't want to shell out for a GPS (they run about $150-$200), consider these fuel efficiency http://ga3.org/ct/ydahf0n1Frqo/tips. You can also talk to your boss about telecommuting a few days a week. And for advice on whether to junk your clunker in favor of a hybrid, read our piece on the subject http://ga3.org/ct/n7ahf0n1FrqH/here. http://ga3.org/ct/hdahf0n1FrqP/[READ MORE] The bottom line: Public transit's the best way to cut your commute-related emissions, but if you're stuck with a daily drive, using a GPS system to find alternate routes could improve your fuel efficiency considerably. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] A Greener Commute
you're right, keith. thanks for taking the time to point that out. it's a sort of double-think process. there's no doubt in my mind that many of those who have dialed down their sense of urgency vis a vis global warming still believe it's a serious problem, but the mild temps means part of their mind starts to listen to the denial arguments, if only to allow themselves to postpone the inevitable adjustments. the whole consumerist paradigm is indeed fundamental. i wanted to tie that in but was a bit pressed for time so tried to hint at it while making my main point. re, the hertzen quote, it definitely has a grim appeal. those russian arnachists were some bad actors, weren't they? ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
