Re: [Biofuel] Bob Allen -Other Vaccines during WWI - THE 1918INFLUENZA EPIDEMIC

2005-12-06 Thread Marylynn Schmidt

No insurance company will insure their products.

That's the big reason behind the push to pass these laws that will hold them 
blameless.


No a bad deal.

Mary Lynn
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From: Zeke Yewdall [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org
To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Bob Allen -Other Vaccines during WWI - THE 
1918INFLUENZA EPIDEMIC

Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2005 15:49:42 -0700

If vaccines are big business being forced on us for profit, then why
does no one want to actually make them.  Last year, less than half of
the people in the US who wanted to get flu vaccines couldn't even get
them, because there was only one or two companies who produced them,
and one got shut down.  Wouldn't the big drug companies be falling
over themselves to get into this business if there was any money to be
made in it?  Vaccinating someone only gets you $5, once a year for
flu, or maybe $60 once every 10 years for other stuff.  Better to sell
them fancy patented drugs for $80 a month...


On 12/6/05, Marylynn Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 THE 1918 INFLUENZA EPIDEMIC WAS A VACCINE-CAUSED DISEASE
 E. McBean (Vaccination The Silent Killer p28)
 
 Very few people realize that the worst epidemic ever to hit America, 
the
 Spanish Influenza of 1918 was the after effect of the massive 
nation-wide

 vaccine campaign. ..
 
 If we check back in history to that 1918 flu period, we will see that 
it
 suddenly struck just after the end of World War I when our soldiers 
were
 returning home from overseas. That was the first war in which all the 
known
 vaccines were forced on all the servicemen. This mish-mash of poison 
drugs

 and putrid protein of which the vaccines were composed, caused such
 widespread disease and death among the soldiers that it was the common 
talk
 of the day, that more of our men were being killed by medical shots 
than by

 enemy shots from guns. Thousands were invalided home or to military
 hospitals, as hopeless wrecks, before they ever saw a day of battle. 
The
 death and disease rate among the vaccinated soldiers was four times 
higher
 than among the unvaccinated civilians. But this did not stop the 
vaccine
 promoters. Vaccine has always been big business, and so it was 
continued

 doggedly.
 *
 from my research
 
 Vaccines in  use during WWI
 
 Besides smallpox vaccine, there is a history of typhoid vaccines, 
plague

 vaccines, diphtheria, rabies vaccine, tetanus antitoxin
 
 
 
 http://www.who.int/vaccines-diseases/history/history.shtml
 # 1885   Rabies
 # 1897   Plague
 
 
http://www.worldpsychology.net/World%20Psychology/OriginalCorePages/marriage

 8.htm
 1895 Diptheria vaccination program begins. Over the period lasting 
until
 1907, 63,249 cases of diptheria were treated with anti-toxin. Over 
8,900

 died, giving a fatality rate of 14%. Over the same period, 11,716 cases
 were not treated with anti-toxin, of which 703 died, giving a fatality 
rate

 of 6%.
 
 1919 Diptheria vaccinations injure 60 and kill 10 in Texas.
 
 http://archives.tcm.ie/irishexaminer/2003/05/08/story265526733.asp
 But US Army records show that seven men dropped dead after being
 vaccinated.
 
 A report from US Secretary of War Henry L Stimson not only verified 
these
 deaths but also stated that there had been 63 deaths and 28,585 cases 
of
 hepatitis as a direct result of yellow fever vaccination during only 
six

 months of the war.
 
 That was only one of the 14 to 25 shots given to recruits.
 
 Army records also reveal that after vaccination became compulsory in 
the US
 Army in 1911, not only did typhoid increase rapidly but all other 
vaccinal

 diseases increased at an alarming rate.
 
 After America entered the war in 1917, the death rate from typhoid
 vaccination rose to the highest point in the history of the US Army.
 
 The deaths occurred after the shots were given in sanitary American
 hospitals and well-supervised army camps in France, where sanitation 
had

 been practised for years.
 
 The report of the Surgeon-General of the US Army shows that during 1917
 there were admitted into the army hospitals 19,608 men suffering from
 anti-typhoid inoculation and vaccinia.
 
 **
 http://www.britannica.com/eb/article-35678
Tetanus
 from the medicine, history of article
 The other great hazard of war that was brought under control in World 
War I

 was tetanus. This was achieved by the prophylactic injection of tetanus
 antitoxin into all wounded men. The serum was originally prepared by 
the
 bacteriologists Emil von Behring and Shibasaburo Kitasato in 1890–92, 
and
 the results of this first large-scale trial amply

Re: [Biofuel] Bob Allen -Other Vaccines during WWI - THE 1918INFLUENZA EPIDEMIC

2005-12-06 Thread Marylynn Schmidt

I don't know if it's higher ..

but there is Federal Funding that is being paid out to vaccine damaged and 
the damage generally happens while they are infants up to young children (a 
few in their teens but that's more unusual)


while other drugs such as vioxx are taken by older people and tend to fall 
into law suits, either group action or individually.


so really, it's coming out of different pockets and I've never heard of any 
actual comparison.


Mary Lynn
Mary Lynn Schmidt
ONE SPIRIT ONE HEART
TTouch . Animal Behavior Modification . Behavior Problems . Ordained 
Minister .
Pet Loss Grief Counseling . Radionics . Dowsing . Nutrition . Homeopathy . 
Herbs. . Polarity . Reiki . Spiritual Travel

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From: Zeke Yewdall [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org
To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Bob Allen -Other Vaccines during WWI - THE 
1918INFLUENZA EPIDEMIC

Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2005 20:07:37 -0700

Yet they are already being sued over drugs like vioxx.  Are the
threats of law suits any higher for vaccines than for other drugs
released with insufficient testing?

On 12/6/05, Mike Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 No one wants to touch them because of fears of being sued.

 Zeke Yewdall wrote:

 If vaccines are big business being forced on us for profit, then why
 does no one want to actually make them.  Last year, less than half of
 the people in the US who wanted to get flu vaccines couldn't even get
 them, because there was only one or two companies who produced them,
 and one got shut down.  Wouldn't the big drug companies be falling
 over themselves to get into this business if there was any money to be
 made in it?  Vaccinating someone only gets you $5, once a year for
 flu, or maybe $60 once every 10 years for other stuff.  Better to sell
 them fancy patented drugs for $80 a month...
 
 
 On 12/6/05, Marylynn Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 THE 1918 INFLUENZA EPIDEMIC WAS A VACCINE-CAUSED DISEASE
 E. McBean (Vaccination The Silent Killer p28)
 
 Very few people realize that the worst epidemic ever to hit America, 
the
 Spanish Influenza of 1918 was the after effect of the massive 
nation-wide

 vaccine campaign. ..
 
 If we check back in history to that 1918 flu period, we will see that 
it
 suddenly struck just after the end of World War I when our soldiers 
were
 returning home from overseas. That was the first war in which all the 
known
 vaccines were forced on all the servicemen. This mish-mash of poison 
drugs

 and putrid protein of which the vaccines were composed, caused such
 widespread disease and death among the soldiers that it was the 
common talk
 of the day, that more of our men were being killed by medical shots 
than by

 enemy shots from guns. Thousands were invalided home or to military
 hospitals, as hopeless wrecks, before they ever saw a day of battle. 
The
 death and disease rate among the vaccinated soldiers was four times 
higher
 than among the unvaccinated civilians. But this did not stop the 
vaccine
 promoters. Vaccine has always been big business, and so it was 
continued

 doggedly.
 *
 
 
 from my research
 
 
 Vaccines in  use during WWI
 
 Besides smallpox vaccine, there is a history of typhoid vaccines, 
plague

 vaccines, diphtheria, rabies vaccine, tetanus antitoxin
 
 
 
 http://www.who.int/vaccines-diseases/history/history.shtml
 # 1885   Rabies
 # 1897   Plague
 
 
http://www.worldpsychology.net/World%20Psychology/OriginalCorePages/marriage

 8.htm
 1895 Diptheria vaccination program begins. Over the period lasting 
until
 1907, 63,249 cases of diptheria were treated with anti-toxin. Over 
8,900
 died, giving a fatality rate of 14%. Over the same period, 11,716 
cases
 were not treated with anti-toxin, of which 703 died, giving a 
fatality rate

 of 6%.
 
 1919 Diptheria vaccinations injure 60 and kill 10 in Texas.
 
 http://archives.tcm.ie/irishexaminer/2003/05/08/story265526733.asp
 But US Army records show that seven men dropped dead after being
 vaccinated.
 
 A report from US Secretary of War Henry L Stimson not only verified 
these
 deaths but also stated that there had been 63 deaths and 28,585 cases 
of
 hepatitis as a direct result of yellow fever vaccination during only 
six

 months of the war.
 
 That was only one of the 14 to 25 shots given to recruits.
 
 Army records also reveal that after vaccination became compulsory in 
the US
 Army in 1911, not only did typhoid increase rapidly but all other 
vaccinal

 diseases increased at an alarming rate.
 
 After America entered the war in 1917, the death rate from typhoid
 vaccination rose to the highest point in the history of the US Army.
 
 The deaths occurred after the shots were given in sanitary American
 hospitals and well-supervised army camps in France, where sanitation 
had

 been practised for years.
 
 The report of the Surgeon