Re: [Biofuel] Bob Allen -Other Vaccines during WWI - THE 1918INFLUENZA EPIDEMIC
No insurance company will insure their products. That's the big reason behind the push to pass these laws that will hold them blameless. No a bad deal. Mary Lynn Mary Lynn Schmidt ONE SPIRIT ONE HEART TTouch . Animal Behavior Modification . Behavior Problems . Ordained Minister . Pet Loss Grief Counseling . Radionics . Dowsing . Nutrition . Homeopathy . Herbs. . Polarity . Reiki . Spiritual Travel The Animal Connection Healing Modalities http://members.tripod.com/~MLSchmidt/ From: Zeke Yewdall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Bob Allen -Other Vaccines during WWI - THE 1918INFLUENZA EPIDEMIC Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2005 15:49:42 -0700 If vaccines are big business being forced on us for profit, then why does no one want to actually make them. Last year, less than half of the people in the US who wanted to get flu vaccines couldn't even get them, because there was only one or two companies who produced them, and one got shut down. Wouldn't the big drug companies be falling over themselves to get into this business if there was any money to be made in it? Vaccinating someone only gets you $5, once a year for flu, or maybe $60 once every 10 years for other stuff. Better to sell them fancy patented drugs for $80 a month... On 12/6/05, Marylynn Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: THE 1918 INFLUENZA EPIDEMIC WAS A VACCINE-CAUSED DISEASE E. McBean (Vaccination The Silent Killer p28) Very few people realize that the worst epidemic ever to hit America, the Spanish Influenza of 1918 was the after effect of the massive nation-wide vaccine campaign. .. If we check back in history to that 1918 flu period, we will see that it suddenly struck just after the end of World War I when our soldiers were returning home from overseas. That was the first war in which all the known vaccines were forced on all the servicemen. This mish-mash of poison drugs and putrid protein of which the vaccines were composed, caused such widespread disease and death among the soldiers that it was the common talk of the day, that more of our men were being killed by medical shots than by enemy shots from guns. Thousands were invalided home or to military hospitals, as hopeless wrecks, before they ever saw a day of battle. The death and disease rate among the vaccinated soldiers was four times higher than among the unvaccinated civilians. But this did not stop the vaccine promoters. Vaccine has always been big business, and so it was continued doggedly. * from my research Vaccines in use during WWI Besides smallpox vaccine, there is a history of typhoid vaccines, plague vaccines, diphtheria, rabies vaccine, tetanus antitoxin http://www.who.int/vaccines-diseases/history/history.shtml # 1885 Rabies # 1897 Plague http://www.worldpsychology.net/World%20Psychology/OriginalCorePages/marriage 8.htm 1895 Diptheria vaccination program begins. Over the period lasting until 1907, 63,249 cases of diptheria were treated with anti-toxin. Over 8,900 died, giving a fatality rate of 14%. Over the same period, 11,716 cases were not treated with anti-toxin, of which 703 died, giving a fatality rate of 6%. 1919 Diptheria vaccinations injure 60 and kill 10 in Texas. http://archives.tcm.ie/irishexaminer/2003/05/08/story265526733.asp But US Army records show that seven men dropped dead after being vaccinated. A report from US Secretary of War Henry L Stimson not only verified these deaths but also stated that there had been 63 deaths and 28,585 cases of hepatitis as a direct result of yellow fever vaccination during only six months of the war. That was only one of the 14 to 25 shots given to recruits. Army records also reveal that after vaccination became compulsory in the US Army in 1911, not only did typhoid increase rapidly but all other vaccinal diseases increased at an alarming rate. After America entered the war in 1917, the death rate from typhoid vaccination rose to the highest point in the history of the US Army. The deaths occurred after the shots were given in sanitary American hospitals and well-supervised army camps in France, where sanitation had been practised for years. The report of the Surgeon-General of the US Army shows that during 1917 there were admitted into the army hospitals 19,608 men suffering from anti-typhoid inoculation and vaccinia. ** http://www.britannica.com/eb/article-35678 Tetanus from the medicine, history of article The other great hazard of war that was brought under control in World War I was tetanus. This was achieved by the prophylactic injection of tetanus antitoxin into all wounded men. The serum was originally prepared by the bacteriologists Emil von Behring and Shibasaburo Kitasato in 189092, and the results of this first large-scale trial amply
Re: [Biofuel] Bob Allen -Other Vaccines during WWI - THE 1918INFLUENZA EPIDEMIC
I don't know if it's higher .. but there is Federal Funding that is being paid out to vaccine damaged and the damage generally happens while they are infants up to young children (a few in their teens but that's more unusual) while other drugs such as vioxx are taken by older people and tend to fall into law suits, either group action or individually. so really, it's coming out of different pockets and I've never heard of any actual comparison. Mary Lynn Mary Lynn Schmidt ONE SPIRIT ONE HEART TTouch . Animal Behavior Modification . Behavior Problems . Ordained Minister . Pet Loss Grief Counseling . Radionics . Dowsing . Nutrition . Homeopathy . Herbs. . Polarity . Reiki . Spiritual Travel The Animal Connection Healing Modalities http://members.tripod.com/~MLSchmidt/ From: Zeke Yewdall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Bob Allen -Other Vaccines during WWI - THE 1918INFLUENZA EPIDEMIC Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2005 20:07:37 -0700 Yet they are already being sued over drugs like vioxx. Are the threats of law suits any higher for vaccines than for other drugs released with insufficient testing? On 12/6/05, Mike Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No one wants to touch them because of fears of being sued. Zeke Yewdall wrote: If vaccines are big business being forced on us for profit, then why does no one want to actually make them. Last year, less than half of the people in the US who wanted to get flu vaccines couldn't even get them, because there was only one or two companies who produced them, and one got shut down. Wouldn't the big drug companies be falling over themselves to get into this business if there was any money to be made in it? Vaccinating someone only gets you $5, once a year for flu, or maybe $60 once every 10 years for other stuff. Better to sell them fancy patented drugs for $80 a month... On 12/6/05, Marylynn Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: THE 1918 INFLUENZA EPIDEMIC WAS A VACCINE-CAUSED DISEASE E. McBean (Vaccination The Silent Killer p28) Very few people realize that the worst epidemic ever to hit America, the Spanish Influenza of 1918 was the after effect of the massive nation-wide vaccine campaign. .. If we check back in history to that 1918 flu period, we will see that it suddenly struck just after the end of World War I when our soldiers were returning home from overseas. That was the first war in which all the known vaccines were forced on all the servicemen. This mish-mash of poison drugs and putrid protein of which the vaccines were composed, caused such widespread disease and death among the soldiers that it was the common talk of the day, that more of our men were being killed by medical shots than by enemy shots from guns. Thousands were invalided home or to military hospitals, as hopeless wrecks, before they ever saw a day of battle. The death and disease rate among the vaccinated soldiers was four times higher than among the unvaccinated civilians. But this did not stop the vaccine promoters. Vaccine has always been big business, and so it was continued doggedly. * from my research Vaccines in use during WWI Besides smallpox vaccine, there is a history of typhoid vaccines, plague vaccines, diphtheria, rabies vaccine, tetanus antitoxin http://www.who.int/vaccines-diseases/history/history.shtml # 1885 Rabies # 1897 Plague http://www.worldpsychology.net/World%20Psychology/OriginalCorePages/marriage 8.htm 1895 Diptheria vaccination program begins. Over the period lasting until 1907, 63,249 cases of diptheria were treated with anti-toxin. Over 8,900 died, giving a fatality rate of 14%. Over the same period, 11,716 cases were not treated with anti-toxin, of which 703 died, giving a fatality rate of 6%. 1919 Diptheria vaccinations injure 60 and kill 10 in Texas. http://archives.tcm.ie/irishexaminer/2003/05/08/story265526733.asp But US Army records show that seven men dropped dead after being vaccinated. A report from US Secretary of War Henry L Stimson not only verified these deaths but also stated that there had been 63 deaths and 28,585 cases of hepatitis as a direct result of yellow fever vaccination during only six months of the war. That was only one of the 14 to 25 shots given to recruits. Army records also reveal that after vaccination became compulsory in the US Army in 1911, not only did typhoid increase rapidly but all other vaccinal diseases increased at an alarming rate. After America entered the war in 1917, the death rate from typhoid vaccination rose to the highest point in the history of the US Army. The deaths occurred after the shots were given in sanitary American hospitals and well-supervised army camps in France, where sanitation had been practised for years. The report of the Surgeon