[Biofuel] Fwd: {OHG} RE: Postmortem Residence
I don't know if this has been discussed here or not, but if it works as advertised, it's a heck of an answer to most of our energy problems. Website for article: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/897232/postsUnlike other solid-to-liquid-fuel processes such as cornstarch into ethanol, this one will accept almost any carbon-based feedstock. *** If a 175-pound man fell into one end, he would come out the other end as 38 pounds of oil, 7 pounds of gas, and 7 pounds of minerals, as well as 123 pounds of sterilized water. ***While no one plans to put people into a thermal depolymerization machine, an intimate human creation could become a prime feedstock. "There is no reason why we can't turn sewage, including human excrement, into a glorious oil," says engineer Terry Adams, a project consultant. So the city of Philadelphia is in discussion with Changing World Technologies to begin doing exactly that. Walker Bennett (w/a Ben W. Gardner) Sedona, Arizona My homepage My writing portfolio ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Fwd: {OHG} RE: Postmortem Residence
Soilent green anyone? I suspect that the problem is the energy input require to depolymerize the input feedstock. Is this more or less than the energy we get out of it. On 9/26/05, Walker Bennett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know if this has been discussed here or not, but if it works as advertised, it's a heck of an answer to most of our energy problems. Website for article: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/897232/postsUnlike other solid-to-liquid-fuel processes such as cornstarch into ethanol, this one will accept almost any carbon-based feedstock. *** If a 175-pound man fell into one end, he would come out the other end as 38 pounds of oil, 7 pounds of gas, and 7 pounds of minerals, as well as 123 pounds of sterilized water. ***While no one plans to put people into a thermal depolymerization machine, an intimate human creation could become a prime feedstock. There is no reason why we can't turn sewage, including human excrement, into a glorious oil, says engineer Terry Adams, a project consultant. So the city of Philadelphia is in discussion with Changing World Technologies to begin doing exactly that. Walker Bennett (w/a Ben W. Gardner) Sedona, Arizona My homepage My writing portfolio ___Biofuel mailing listBiofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.orgBiofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.htmlSearch the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Fwd: {OHG} RE: Postmortem Residence
Hi Zeke and all,
Wow, it's been years since I saw that movie. That was Edward G. Robinson's last flick. Lot's of things are applicable to today's peak oil problem.Since it had a great storyline I have to think it was a book at some time but I have no real idea. Actually I believe any input feedstock with such a high water content would yield much less energy out than put in unless there's a lot of complex and expensive enzyme systems at work. Wastewater would be much worseeven enzymatically since it is like 99.99% water. Human solid waste is like 50% water before the flush. The settled solids at the treatment plant would make up maybe 99.9% water. I think the Phiily folks ought to talk to some chemical engineers.
Tom Irwin
From: Zeke Yewdall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.orgSent: Mon, 26 Sep 2005 14:42:58 -0300Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Fwd: {OHG} RE: Postmortem ResidenceSoilent green anyone?I suspect that the problem is the energy input require to depolymerize the input feedstock. Is this more or less than the energy we get out of it.snip___
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Re: [Biofuel] Fwd: {OHG} RE: Postmortem Residence
Wow. No Sh*t? Walker Bennett wrote: I don't know if this has been discussed here or not, but if it works as advertised, it's a heck of an answer to most of our energy problems. Website for article: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/897232/posts Unlike other solid-to-liquid-fuel processes such as cornstarch into ethanol, this one will accept almost any carbon-based feedstock. *** If a 175-pound man fell into one end, he would come out the other end as 38 pounds of oil, 7 pounds of gas, and 7 pounds of minerals, as well as 123 pounds of sterilized water. *** While no one plans to put people into a thermal depolymerization machine, an intimate human creation could become a prime feedstock. There is no reason why we can't turn sewage, including human excrement, into a glorious oil, says engineer Terry Adams, a project consultant. So the city of Philadelphia is in discussion with Changing World Technologies to begin doing exactly that. *Walker Bennett * (w/a Ben W. Gardner) Sedona, Arizona /My homepage http://ca.geocities.com/vladilyich// /My writing portfolio http://www.writing.com/authors/vladilyich// Get Firefox! http://www.spreadfirefox.com/?q=affiliatesid=69417t=84 ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
