Re: [Biofuel] Fwd: Bio-Diesel in Palestine
Hello Elad, Perhaps you have access to third press solvent extracted olive oil. It is probably used for other purposes but it may be available for Biodiesel. Are you planning to use ethanol or methanol as your processing alcohol? Tom Irwin From: Burak_l [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.orgSent: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 04:55:39 -0300Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Fwd: Bio-Diesel in PalestineDear Elad;Greetings from Istanbul. Beside personally following up the alternativeenergy for past, professionally we have been doing automation of the biodiesel plants.I can try to give you some ideas on what we are doing here.Do you know what type of oil you will be using? Or better what is availableover there for you to use? What type of equipment you have?And do you have the land available?If you can send me some information I can discuss with the process guys andcome back with some ideas which may be usefull.RegardsBurak-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED][mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Keith AddisonSent: Monday, February 13, 2006 6:16 PMTo: biofuel@sustainablelists.orgSubject: [Biofuel] Fwd: Bio-Diesel in PalestineDoes anyone have any good advice for Elad Orian? Respond direct or(better) discuss onlist - I gave him the list archives link so he canfollow any onlist discussions (or join). I think there are manyprojects similar to what he envisages, and it would be good to hearabout them.BestKeith>Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 16:37:11 +0200>From: Elad Orian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>Subject: Bio-Diesel in Palestine>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]>>Dear Journey to Forever,>my name is Elad Orian and I am an Israeli peace activist. Together>with a Palestinian partner from the west bank we have envisioned the>construction of a medium sized Bio-Diesel production plant (starting>from around 1000 liters a day) at the Palestinian village of Bil'in.>The village has been the center and the symbol of the joint>Palestinian-Israeli struggle against the construction of the>separation barrier that Israel is building and land confiscation and>we felt that in order to take the cooperation to the next level we>need to start positive constructive work.>The Bio-Diesel option came naturally as an environmentally friendly,>community supporting and economically sustainable enterprise. We>wish to build a production system with the following characteristics:>> 1. environmentali sound> 2. locally built> 3. long lasting> 4. growing capacity> 5. efficient>>Your site is the most comprehensive and accesible information source>on the web and I was hoping to hear from you whether you know of any>other initiatives with similar characteristics (i.e. in between>backyard producers and full scale corporate factories) I could>contact to learn from and maybe even visit.>>many thanks indeed,>elad orian___Biofuel mailing listBiofuel@sustainablelists.orghttp://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.orgBiofuel at Journey to Forever:http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.htmlSearch the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000messages):http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/___Biofuel mailing listBiofuel@sustainablelists.orghttp://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.orgBiofuel at Journey to Forever:http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.htmlSearch the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages):http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Fwd: Bio-Diesel in Palestine
Hello Burak >Dear Elad; >Greetings from Istanbul. Beside personally following up the alternative >energy for past, professionally we have been doing automation of the bio >diesel plants. >I can try to give you some ideas on what we are doing here. > >Do you know what type of oil you will be using? Or better what is available >over there for you to use? What type of equipment you have? >And do you have the land available? > >If you can send me some information I can discuss with the process guys and >come back with some ideas which may be usefull. > >Regards > >Burak Please try to keep it onlist, or cc the list. Thankyou. Best Keith Addison Journey to Forever KYOTO Pref., Japan http://journeytoforever.org/ Biofuel list owner >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Keith Addison >Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 6:16 PM >To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org >Subject: [Biofuel] Fwd: Bio-Diesel in Palestine > > >Does anyone have any good advice for Elad Orian? Respond direct or >(better) discuss onlist - I gave him the list archives link so he can >follow any onlist discussions (or join). I think there are many >projects similar to what he envisages, and it would be good to hear >about them. > >Best > >Keith > > > >Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 16:37:11 +0200 > >From: Elad Orian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: Bio-Diesel in Palestine > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >Dear Journey to Forever, > >my name is Elad Orian and I am an Israeli peace activist. Together > >with a Palestinian partner from the west bank we have envisioned the > >construction of a medium sized Bio-Diesel production plant (starting > >from around 1000 liters a day) at the Palestinian village of Bil'in. > >The village has been the center and the symbol of the joint > >Palestinian-Israeli struggle against the construction of the > >separation barrier that Israel is building and land confiscation and > >we felt that in order to take the cooperation to the next level we > >need to start positive constructive work. > >The Bio-Diesel option came naturally as an environmentally friendly, > >community supporting and economically sustainable enterprise. We > >wish to build a production system with the following characteristics: > > > > 1. environmentali sound > > 2. locally built > > 3. long lasting > > 4. growing capacity > > 5. efficient > > > >Your site is the most comprehensive and accesible information source > >on the web and I was hoping to hear from you whether you know of any > >other initiatives with similar characteristics (i.e. in between > >backyard producers and full scale corporate factories) I could > >contact to learn from and maybe even visit. > > > >many thanks indeed, > >elad orian ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Fwd: Bio-Diesel in Palestine
Dear Elad; Greetings from Istanbul. Beside personally following up the alternative energy for past, professionally we have been doing automation of the bio diesel plants. I can try to give you some ideas on what we are doing here. Do you know what type of oil you will be using? Or better what is available over there for you to use? What type of equipment you have? And do you have the land available? If you can send me some information I can discuss with the process guys and come back with some ideas which may be usefull. Regards Burak -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Keith Addison Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 6:16 PM To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: [Biofuel] Fwd: Bio-Diesel in Palestine Does anyone have any good advice for Elad Orian? Respond direct or (better) discuss onlist - I gave him the list archives link so he can follow any onlist discussions (or join). I think there are many projects similar to what he envisages, and it would be good to hear about them. Best Keith >Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 16:37:11 +0200 >From: Elad Orian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Bio-Diesel in Palestine >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Dear Journey to Forever, >my name is Elad Orian and I am an Israeli peace activist. Together >with a Palestinian partner from the west bank we have envisioned the >construction of a medium sized Bio-Diesel production plant (starting >from around 1000 liters a day) at the Palestinian village of Bil'in. >The village has been the center and the symbol of the joint >Palestinian-Israeli struggle against the construction of the >separation barrier that Israel is building and land confiscation and >we felt that in order to take the cooperation to the next level we >need to start positive constructive work. >The Bio-Diesel option came naturally as an environmentally friendly, >community supporting and economically sustainable enterprise. We >wish to build a production system with the following characteristics: > > 1. environmentali sound > 2. locally built > 3. long lasting > 4. growing capacity > 5. efficient > >Your site is the most comprehensive and accesible information source >on the web and I was hoping to hear from you whether you know of any >other initiatives with similar characteristics (i.e. in between >backyard producers and full scale corporate factories) I could >contact to learn from and maybe even visit. > >many thanks indeed, >elad orian ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Fwd: Bio-Diesel in Palestine
Dear Elad, Please check the following. Fo you have a source of animal fat or vegetable fat in a rate of five tons per day at least. Waste product the better. A stainless steel reactor 5 cu meters at least. I can advise you on some companis in maahle adumim were to find them Ethanol won´t be a problem. KOH neither. Electricity : at least 80 amps. Water treatment plant to treat the waste. If you can get all the above I can help you to do your own biodiesel. Regards - Original Message - From: "Appal Energy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 7:02 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Fwd: Bio-Diesel in Palestine > Yah. One really good idea. Help him build a business/plant step by step > via the internet. > > Bring him into the conversation, take inventory of his site and > available materials and back him up whenever he's ready to put wrenches > to fittings. > > Todd Swearingen > > > Keith Addison wrote: > >>Does anyone have any good advice for Elad Orian? Respond direct or >>(better) discuss onlist - I gave him the list archives link so he can >>follow any onlist discussions (or join). I think there are many >>projects similar to what he envisages, and it would be good to hear >>about them. >> >>Best >> >>Keith >> >> >> >> >>>Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 16:37:11 +0200 >>>From: Elad Orian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>Subject: Bio-Diesel in Palestine >>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >>>Dear Journey to Forever, >>>my name is Elad Orian and I am an Israeli peace activist. Together >>>with a Palestinian partner from the west bank we have envisioned the >>>construction of a medium sized Bio-Diesel production plant (starting >>> >>> >>>from around 1000 liters a day) at the Palestinian village of Bil'in. >> >> >>>The village has been the center and the symbol of the joint >>>Palestinian-Israeli struggle against the construction of the >>>separation barrier that Israel is building and land confiscation and >>>we felt that in order to take the cooperation to the next level we >>>need to start positive constructive work. >>>The Bio-Diesel option came naturally as an environmentally friendly, >>>community supporting and economically sustainable enterprise. We >>>wish to build a production system with the following characteristics: >>> >>>1. environmentali sound >>>2. locally built >>>3. long lasting >>>4. growing capacity >>>5. efficient >>> >>>Your site is the most comprehensive and accesible information source >>>on the web and I was hoping to hear from you whether you know of any >>>other initiatives with similar characteristics (i.e. in between >>>backyard producers and full scale corporate factories) I could >>>contact to learn from and maybe even visit. >>> >>>many thanks indeed, >>>elad orian >>> >>> >> >> >>___ >>Biofuel mailing list >>Biofuel@sustainablelists.org >>http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org >> >>Biofuel at Journey to Forever: >>http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html >> >>Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 >>messages): >>http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ >> >> >> >> >> > > ___ > Biofuel mailing list > Biofuel@sustainablelists.org > http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 > messages): > http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ > __ Visita http://www.tutopia.com y comienza a navegar más rápido en Internet. Tutopia es Internet para todos. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Fwd: Bio-Diesel in Palestine
Yah. One really good idea. Help him build a business/plant step by step via the internet. Bring him into the conversation, take inventory of his site and available materials and back him up whenever he's ready to put wrenches to fittings. Todd Swearingen Keith Addison wrote: >Does anyone have any good advice for Elad Orian? Respond direct or >(better) discuss onlist - I gave him the list archives link so he can >follow any onlist discussions (or join). I think there are many >projects similar to what he envisages, and it would be good to hear >about them. > >Best > >Keith > > > > >>Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 16:37:11 +0200 >>From: Elad Orian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Subject: Bio-Diesel in Palestine >>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >>Dear Journey to Forever, >>my name is Elad Orian and I am an Israeli peace activist. Together >>with a Palestinian partner from the west bank we have envisioned the >>construction of a medium sized Bio-Diesel production plant (starting >> >> >>from around 1000 liters a day) at the Palestinian village of Bil'in. > > >>The village has been the center and the symbol of the joint >>Palestinian-Israeli struggle against the construction of the >>separation barrier that Israel is building and land confiscation and >>we felt that in order to take the cooperation to the next level we >>need to start positive constructive work. >>The Bio-Diesel option came naturally as an environmentally friendly, >>community supporting and economically sustainable enterprise. We >>wish to build a production system with the following characteristics: >> >>1. environmentali sound >>2. locally built >>3. long lasting >>4. growing capacity >>5. efficient >> >>Your site is the most comprehensive and accesible information source >>on the web and I was hoping to hear from you whether you know of any >>other initiatives with similar characteristics (i.e. in between >>backyard producers and full scale corporate factories) I could >>contact to learn from and maybe even visit. >> >>many thanks indeed, >>elad orian >> >> > > >___ >Biofuel mailing list >Biofuel@sustainablelists.org >http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org > >Biofuel at Journey to Forever: >http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > >Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): >http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ > > > > > ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Fwd: Bio-Diesel in Palestine
Does anyone have any good advice for Elad Orian? Respond direct or (better) discuss onlist - I gave him the list archives link so he can follow any onlist discussions (or join). I think there are many projects similar to what he envisages, and it would be good to hear about them. Best Keith >Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 16:37:11 +0200 >From: Elad Orian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Bio-Diesel in Palestine >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Dear Journey to Forever, >my name is Elad Orian and I am an Israeli peace activist. Together >with a Palestinian partner from the west bank we have envisioned the >construction of a medium sized Bio-Diesel production plant (starting >from around 1000 liters a day) at the Palestinian village of Bil'in. >The village has been the center and the symbol of the joint >Palestinian-Israeli struggle against the construction of the >separation barrier that Israel is building and land confiscation and >we felt that in order to take the cooperation to the next level we >need to start positive constructive work. >The Bio-Diesel option came naturally as an environmentally friendly, >community supporting and economically sustainable enterprise. We >wish to build a production system with the following characteristics: > > 1. environmentali sound > 2. locally built > 3. long lasting > 4. growing capacity > 5. efficient > >Your site is the most comprehensive and accesible information source >on the web and I was hoping to hear from you whether you know of any >other initiatives with similar characteristics (i.e. in between >backyard producers and full scale corporate factories) I could >contact to learn from and maybe even visit. > >many thanks indeed, >elad orian ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
