Re: [Biofuel] Fwd:Aspartame poisoning

2008-01-13 Thread keith
Hi Chip

>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> Hello E.
>>
>> Lots of stuff snipped.
>
>Nicely done Keith. (as always)
>keep up the good work!
>
>--

Thankyou! I'll try.

I agree with you about the letter, not something to take at face value.
Hence the "is this true" tag I guess. Not something to be rejected out of
hand either though, when it concerns something like aspartame. A perhaps
somewhat battered copy of the original "Nancy Markle" email - it's been
doing the rounds for nine years now.

This sheds a little more light, helps explains the chain-letter style too:

http://nancymarkle.com/

A twisted tale, but the villain remains the same - aspartame, plus Searle,
Monsanto, Rumsfeld, a corrupted FDA et al.

Downright pity about Monsanto's "economic tailspin", meanwhile.

http://snipurl.com/1x5at
Cover Story, BusinessWeek, December 6, 2007, 5:00PM EST
Monsanto: Winning the Ground War
How the company turned the tide in the battle over genetically modified crops

:-(

The time will come...

Best

Keith




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Re: [Biofuel] Fwd:Aspartame poisoning

2008-01-10 Thread Chip Mefford
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hello E.
> 
> Lots of stuff snipped.

Nicely done Keith. (as always)
keep up the good work!

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Re: [Biofuel] Fwd:Aspartame poisoning

2008-01-10 Thread Chip Mefford
Manick Harris wrote:
> 
> a lot of folks email addresses snipped
>
> Subject: Fw: is this true 
> Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 20:03:56 -0500

>other stuff snipped.

> Subject: is this true 
> 
> 
>   
>> SWEET POISON
>> A MUST READ

Very interesting read indeed.

That said, some fact checking puts this whole letter
into question. Parts of it are snipped from transcripts
of talks, that aren't very well attributed.

I'm all for avoiding these products, no argument there.
That said, I find this letter to be a bit too chain-letter
like, and it's claims pretty fantastic. a bit of googling
tells a larger story.

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Re: [Biofuel] Fwd:Aspartame poisoning

2008-01-05 Thread keith
Hello E.

>Hello Keith
>
>"...That's okay if you're just curious but it needs a bit more rigour if
you want to discuss it. The list archives would have helped, that's what
it's for..."
>
>I am pretty sure "discussion" was what the original poster, "Marylynn",
had in mind here.

Marylynn wasn't the original poster, Manick was. Marylynn didn't get it
wrong, you did. It's a discussion group, "discussion" is what goes on
here. (You're still not being very rigorous.)

>I am certain that everyone interested in this subject is grateful that
you brought up such a list of references for them to read without having
to research for themselves.

I wouldn't have had to spend the time doing it if you'd been a little less
sloppy. (Though next time someone's that sloppy about it all I'll need is
the url.)

>For me, I had no idea that anyone still doubted the problem with the
product as I am pretty sure that it has been common knowledge for many
years.

:-) You said "google snopes.com, they say this is a hoax" but it's what
snopes.com says that's the hoax, and you fell for it, as your second
message confirms.

Drop the double-talk eh?

Keith Addison
Journey to Forever
KYOTO Pref., Japan
http://journeytoforever.org/
Biofuel list owner


>E.
>
>
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>Hello E.
>
>>Hi Marylynn,
>>
>>I don't know a thing about snoops.com but what I like about snopes.com is
>that they usually give references for the basis of their opinion.
>
>There are references and references though.
>
>>>google snopes.com, they say this is a hoax
>
>... and they cite as their references such stalwarts in championing the
>public interest as the FDA and Elizabeth Whelan's Astroturf group the
>American Council on Science and Health, right.
>
>"American Council on Science and Health
>"... In the latest years for which information is available, some 40
>percent of ACSH's budget was supplied directly by industry, including
>a long list of food, drug and chemical companies that have a vested
>interest in supporting [CEO Elizabeth] Whelan's message..."
>- SourceWatch (many refs and further links):
>http://snipurl.com/1wmws
>
>Along with the usual suspects ASCH funders include Monsanto, NutraSweet
>and Searle.
>`
>The FDA is just the food and drug industries' enabling wing, their
>Washington Bureau, it's a hub of revolving doors.
>
>Snopes.com is useful but it's not an authority and it's not above the need
>for checking. SourceWatch for one is much better:
>http://www.sourcewatch.org/
>
>You can find stuff like this there:
>
>"... One thing is certain, despite what appears to be a concerted effort
>on the part of aspartame‚s makers to negate the allegations of health
>problems, adverse reactions from aspartame are real.
>
>"This was eloquently borne out in 1996, when Ralph G. Walton, MD,
>professor and chairman of the Department of Psychiatry at Northeastern
>Ohio University‚s College of Medicine, conducted an analysis of all the
>medical studies˜164 of them at the time˜dealing with human safety as it
>relates to the use of aspartame. The studies were separated into two
>categories: 74 of the studies were sponsored by the aspartame industry and
>90 of them were non-industry-sponsored studies. Dr. Walton found that of
>the 74 studies sponsored by the aspartame industry, 100 percent of them
>claimed there were no health problems associated with aspartame use. Of
>the 90 studies that had no connections to industry, all but seven of them
>identified one or more problems with aspartame use. Interestingly, of the
>seven studies that did not find problems, the FDA had conducted six.
>Critics suggest that since a number of FDA officials eventually went to
>work for the aspartame industry, these six studies should be considered
>industry-sponsored research as well."
>http://www.westonaprice.org/modernfood/aspartame.html
>
>Or this, how aspartame was approved by the FDA:
>
>Aspartame Gate: When Donald Rumsfeld was CEO of Searle (manufacturers of
>aspartame)
>http://snipurl.com/1wmwz
>
>More here, about halfway down:
>
>http://www.onlinejournal.com/health/080604Mazza/080604mazza.html
>Aspartame, anti-depressants and Bush
>
>Here too:
>
>http://snipurl.com/1wmwv
>Biofuel - Rumsfeld +aspartame 43 matches
>
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8N0z8stino
>Aspartame & Rumsfeld
>
>http://snipurl.com/1wmwy
>Biofuel - Aspartame - 135 matches
>
>Also this:
>
>"Aspartame Poisoning - NOT an Internet Hoax
>
>"DORway.com opened Searle's "Pandora's" book of facts on aspartame during
>September of 1996. For over four years Monsanto (who bought Searle in
>1985), their many PR and law firms, visited DORway.com many thousands of
>times (documented by IP addresses). The FDA, CDC and other entities
>visited, as well. The highly litigious Monsanto was unable to find
>anything to use against the site in an effort to close it down and relieve
>the growing pressures on its dying aspartame cash cow. Obviously, they
>cannot argue with the documentation (the most damning of which come

Re: [Biofuel] Fwd:Aspartame poisoning

2008-01-05 Thread e hallmark
Hello Keith

"...That's okay if you're just curious but it needs a bit more rigour if you 
want to discuss it. The list archives would have helped, that's what it's 
for..."

I am pretty sure "discussion" was what the original poster, "Marylynn", had in 
mind here.  I am certain that everyone interested in this subject is grateful 
that you brought up such a list of references for them to read without having 
to research for themselves.

For me, I had no idea that anyone still doubted the problem with the product as 
I am pretty sure that it has been common knowledge for many years.

E.


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello E.

>Hi Marylynn,
>
>I don't know a thing about snoops.com but what I like about snopes.com is
that they usually give references for the basis of their opinion.

There are references and references though.

>>google snopes.com,  they say this is a hoax

... and they cite as their references such stalwarts in championing the
public interest as the FDA and Elizabeth Whelan's Astroturf group the
American Council on Science and Health, right.

"American Council on Science and Health
"... In the latest years for which information is available, some 40
percent of ACSH's budget was supplied directly by industry, including
a long list of food, drug and chemical companies that have a vested
interest in supporting [CEO Elizabeth] Whelan's message..."
- SourceWatch (many refs and further links):
http://snipurl.com/1wmws

Along with the usual suspects ASCH funders include Monsanto, NutraSweet
and Searle.
`
The FDA is just the food and drug industries' enabling wing, their
Washington Bureau, it's a hub of revolving doors.

Snopes.com is useful but it's not an authority and it's not above the need
for checking. SourceWatch for one is much better:
http://www.sourcewatch.org/

You can find stuff like this there:

"... One thing is certain, despite what appears to be a concerted effort
on the part of aspartame’s makers to negate the allegations of health
problems, adverse reactions from aspartame are real.

"This was eloquently borne out in 1996, when Ralph G. Walton, MD,
professor and chairman of the Department of Psychiatry at Northeastern
Ohio University’s College of Medicine, conducted an analysis of all the
medical studies—164 of them at the time—dealing with human safety as it
relates to the use of aspartame. The studies were separated into two
categories: 74 of the studies were sponsored by the aspartame industry and
90 of them were non-industry-sponsored studies. Dr. Walton found that of
the 74 studies sponsored by the aspartame industry, 100 percent of them
claimed there were no health problems associated with aspartame use. Of
the 90 studies that had no connections to industry, all but seven of them
identified one or more problems with aspartame use. Interestingly, of the
seven studies that did not find problems, the FDA had conducted six.
Critics suggest that since a number of FDA officials eventually went to
work for the aspartame industry, these six studies should be considered
industry-sponsored research as well."
http://www.westonaprice.org/modernfood/aspartame.html

Or this, how aspartame was approved by the FDA:

Aspartame Gate: When Donald Rumsfeld was CEO of Searle (manufacturers of
aspartame)
http://snipurl.com/1wmwz

More here, about halfway down:

http://www.onlinejournal.com/health/080604Mazza/080604mazza.html
Aspartame, anti-depressants and Bush

Here too:

http://snipurl.com/1wmwv
Biofuel - Rumsfeld +aspartame 43 matches

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8N0z8stino
Aspartame & Rumsfeld

http://snipurl.com/1wmwy
Biofuel - Aspartame - 135 matches

Also this:

"Aspartame Poisoning - NOT an Internet Hoax

"DORway.com opened Searle's "Pandora's" book of facts on aspartame during
September of 1996. For over four years Monsanto (who bought Searle in
1985), their many PR and law firms, visited DORway.com many thousands of
times (documented by IP addresses). The FDA, CDC and other entities
visited, as well. The highly litigious Monsanto was unable to find
anything to use against the site in an effort to close it down and relieve
the growing pressures on its dying aspartame cash cow. Obviously, they
cannot argue with the documentation (the most damning of which comes from
the FDA and sworn testimony).

"While two anti-aspartame Web sites (1996) grew to tens of thousands (as
of October, 2001, Google.com had over 80,000), and while Nutrasweet's 28
million pounds of aspartame sold during 1996 slipped to only 20 million
pounds during 1998, Monsanto sought to counter the truth (and their
negative "good growth") with pro-aspartame WEB sites. When the "Nancy
Markle" Email appeared during December, 1998, Monsanto and friends
panicked. Monsanto, FDA, ADA, IFIC, MSFacts, TIME, CNN, LA Times, and a
lot more who stood to LOSE if aspartame were recalled, ALL JOINED HANDS to
call our information and the facts an "Internet hoax." Want a hint at the
whole truth? Simply compare their messages, and then look for

Re: [Biofuel] Fwd:Aspartame poisoning

2008-01-05 Thread Andy Karpay

I agree with Keith.  I just saw a report on Democracy Now! (go Amy Goodman).
http://www.democracynow.org/2007/6/27/headlines#11
from June of 07.  If you search on that site under "Aspartame" there are two
stories.  One has to do with Donald Rumsfeld's involvement in getting
Aspartame approved in the first place.  Think of "FDA approved" as a house
appraisal (for the bank) prior to your purchase.  The appraisal doesn't give
the house's value.  It compares prices recently spent in that neighborhood
to see how it compares.  Too high? No good.  Too low, questions too. 
FDA's rules have been so relaxed they are not interested in any long term
affects.  They simply look at the facts as provided by the food, or drug
manufacturing company, and believe their tests.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2008 3:40 AM
To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Fwd:Aspartame poisoning

Hello E.

>Hi Marylynn,
>
>I don't know a thing about snoops.com but what I like about snopes.com is
that they usually give references for the basis of their opinion.

There are references and references though.

>>google snopes.com,  they say this is a hoax

... and they cite as their references such stalwarts in championing the
public interest as the FDA and Elizabeth Whelan's Astroturf group the
American Council on Science and Health, right.

"American Council on Science and Health
"... In the latest years for which information is available, some 40
percent of ACSH's budget was supplied directly by industry, including
a long list of food, drug and chemical companies that have a vested
interest in supporting [CEO Elizabeth] Whelan's message..."
- SourceWatch (many refs and further links):
http://snipurl.com/1wmws

Along with the usual suspects ASCH funders include Monsanto, NutraSweet
and Searle.
`
The FDA is just the food and drug industries' enabling wing, their
Washington Bureau, it's a hub of revolving doors.

Snopes.com is useful but it's not an authority and it's not above the need
for checking. SourceWatch for one is much better:
http://www.sourcewatch.org/

You can find stuff like this there:

"... One thing is certain, despite what appears to be a concerted effort
on the part of aspartame's makers to negate the allegations of health
problems, adverse reactions from aspartame are real.

"This was eloquently borne out in 1996, when Ralph G. Walton, MD,
professor and chairman of the Department of Psychiatry at Northeastern
Ohio University's College of Medicine, conducted an analysis of all the
medical studies-164 of them at the time-dealing with human safety as it
relates to the use of aspartame. The studies were separated into two
categories: 74 of the studies were sponsored by the aspartame industry and
90 of them were non-industry-sponsored studies. Dr. Walton found that of
the 74 studies sponsored by the aspartame industry, 100 percent of them
claimed there were no health problems associated with aspartame use. Of
the 90 studies that had no connections to industry, all but seven of them
identified one or more problems with aspartame use. Interestingly, of the
seven studies that did not find problems, the FDA had conducted six.
Critics suggest that since a number of FDA officials eventually went to
work for the aspartame industry, these six studies should be considered
industry-sponsored research as well."
http://www.westonaprice.org/modernfood/aspartame.html

Or this, how aspartame was approved by the FDA:

Aspartame Gate: When Donald Rumsfeld was CEO of Searle (manufacturers of
aspartame)
http://snipurl.com/1wmwz

More here, about halfway down:

http://www.onlinejournal.com/health/080604Mazza/080604mazza.html
Aspartame, anti-depressants and Bush

Here too:

http://snipurl.com/1wmwv
Biofuel - Rumsfeld +aspartame 43 matches

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8N0z8stino
Aspartame & Rumsfeld

http://snipurl.com/1wmwy
Biofuel - Aspartame - 135 matches

Also this:

"Aspartame Poisoning - NOT an Internet Hoax

"DORway.com opened Searle's "Pandora's" book of facts on aspartame during
September of 1996. For over four years Monsanto (who bought Searle in
1985), their many PR and law firms, visited DORway.com many thousands of
times (documented by IP addresses). The FDA, CDC and other entities
visited, as well. The highly litigious Monsanto was unable to find
anything to use against the site in an effort to close it down and relieve
the growing pressures on its dying aspartame cash cow. Obviously, they
cannot argue with the documentation (the most damning of which comes from
the FDA and sworn testimony).

"While two anti-aspartame Web sites (1996) grew to tens of thousands (as
of October, 2001, Google.com had over 80,000), and while Nutrasweet

Re: [Biofuel] Fwd:Aspartame poisoning

2008-01-05 Thread keith
Hello E.

>Hi Marylynn,
>
>I don't know a thing about snoops.com but what I like about snopes.com is
that they usually give references for the basis of their opinion.

There are references and references though.

>>google snopes.com,  they say this is a hoax

... and they cite as their references such stalwarts in championing the
public interest as the FDA and Elizabeth Whelan's Astroturf group the
American Council on Science and Health, right.

"American Council on Science and Health
"... In the latest years for which information is available, some 40
percent of ACSH's budget was supplied directly by industry, including
a long list of food, drug and chemical companies that have a vested
interest in supporting [CEO Elizabeth] Whelan's message..."
- SourceWatch (many refs and further links):
http://snipurl.com/1wmws

Along with the usual suspects ASCH funders include Monsanto, NutraSweet
and Searle.
`
The FDA is just the food and drug industries' enabling wing, their
Washington Bureau, it's a hub of revolving doors.

Snopes.com is useful but it's not an authority and it's not above the need
for checking. SourceWatch for one is much better:
http://www.sourcewatch.org/

You can find stuff like this there:

"... One thing is certain, despite what appears to be a concerted effort
on the part of aspartame’s makers to negate the allegations of health
problems, adverse reactions from aspartame are real.

"This was eloquently borne out in 1996, when Ralph G. Walton, MD,
professor and chairman of the Department of Psychiatry at Northeastern
Ohio University’s College of Medicine, conducted an analysis of all the
medical studies—164 of them at the time—dealing with human safety as it
relates to the use of aspartame. The studies were separated into two
categories: 74 of the studies were sponsored by the aspartame industry and
90 of them were non-industry-sponsored studies. Dr. Walton found that of
the 74 studies sponsored by the aspartame industry, 100 percent of them
claimed there were no health problems associated with aspartame use. Of
the 90 studies that had no connections to industry, all but seven of them
identified one or more problems with aspartame use. Interestingly, of the
seven studies that did not find problems, the FDA had conducted six.
Critics suggest that since a number of FDA officials eventually went to
work for the aspartame industry, these six studies should be considered
industry-sponsored research as well."
http://www.westonaprice.org/modernfood/aspartame.html

Or this, how aspartame was approved by the FDA:

Aspartame Gate: When Donald Rumsfeld was CEO of Searle (manufacturers of
aspartame)
http://snipurl.com/1wmwz

More here, about halfway down:

http://www.onlinejournal.com/health/080604Mazza/080604mazza.html
Aspartame, anti-depressants and Bush

Here too:

http://snipurl.com/1wmwv
Biofuel - Rumsfeld +aspartame 43 matches

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8N0z8stino
Aspartame & Rumsfeld

http://snipurl.com/1wmwy
Biofuel - Aspartame - 135 matches

Also this:

"Aspartame Poisoning - NOT an Internet Hoax

"DORway.com opened Searle's "Pandora's" book of facts on aspartame during
September of 1996. For over four years Monsanto (who bought Searle in
1985), their many PR and law firms, visited DORway.com many thousands of
times (documented by IP addresses). The FDA, CDC and other entities
visited, as well. The highly litigious Monsanto was unable to find
anything to use against the site in an effort to close it down and relieve
the growing pressures on its dying aspartame cash cow. Obviously, they
cannot argue with the documentation (the most damning of which comes from
the FDA and sworn testimony).

"While two anti-aspartame Web sites (1996) grew to tens of thousands (as
of October, 2001, Google.com had over 80,000), and while Nutrasweet's 28
million pounds of aspartame sold during 1996 slipped to only 20 million
pounds during 1998, Monsanto sought to counter the truth (and their
negative "good growth") with pro-aspartame WEB sites. When the "Nancy
Markle" Email appeared during December, 1998, Monsanto and friends
panicked. Monsanto, FDA, ADA, IFIC, MSFacts, TIME, CNN, LA Times, and a
lot more who stood to LOSE if aspartame were recalled, ALL JOINED HANDS to
call our information and the facts an "Internet hoax." Want a hint at the
whole truth? Simply compare their messages, and then look for the $$$
connection. And the FDA? Just think future industry jobs and the fact that
they are culpable of approving this cumulative toxic poison. ..."
http://www.dorway.com/

Even Wikipedia gets it more or less right:

FDA approval process
Some critics of Aspartame use have criticized its approval process
specifically; they note that the head of the FDA, Jere E. Goyan, was
removed from his post on the first day of Ronald Reagan's presidency
(1981). Previously, Goyan refused to approve the legalization of
aspartame, due to the studies documenting increase of cancers in rats.
Reagan appointed Arthur Hayes, MD, (FDA C

Re: [Biofuel] Fwd:Aspartame poisoning

2008-01-04 Thread e hallmark
Hi Marylynn,

I don't know a thing about snoops.com but what I like about snopes.com is that 
they usually give references for the basis of their opinion.  That has been a 
pretty good starting point for my research on subjects that I feel the need to 
know about.

This one is truly interesting.

E

Marylynn Schmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
In this case I would tend to believe that snoops.com got it wrong.  
 
I personally know far too many people horribly effected by drinking diet 
products. 
 
My ex-neighbor, a young mother who has been left nearly blind and deaf due to a 
fast moving brain tumor .. and according to her doctor this is a known side 
effect of aspartame. Because the tumor took out a great deal of her optic 
nerves and inner ear, this is not correctable.
 
A client's college student son became almost completely bald and started 
re-growing his hair once he stopped drinking the diet drinks .. he is finishing 
the process with hair replacement plugs .. a process he tells me is quite 
painful and expensive. 
 
.. and yes, I do know of the disappearing MS symptoms from 2 different people I 
swim with at the "Y". 
 
The history of Aspartame's approval by the FDA would suggest that something 
isn't quite on the up and up.
 
I tend to avoid the artificial as much as possible .. not always possible 
because I eat out mostly  .. but if the bottle lists Diet, I leave it alone.
 
.. also in the case of my client's son, even though he has not been drinking 
diet soda for a year or so, he tells me that he still craves it.
 
Mary LynnRev. Mary Lynn Schmidt, Ordained Minister ONE SPIRIT ONE HEART, Home 
of All Creature Connections: A Teaching and Healing 
MinistryFacilitator/Consultant for Alternative Healing Modalities and 
Practitioner utilizing various modalities which may include TTouch . Reiki . 
Pet Loss Grief Counseling . Animal Behavior Modification . Shamanic Spiritual 
Travel . Behavior Problems . Psionic Energy Practitioner . Radionics . Herbs . 
Dowsing . Nutrition . Homeopathy . Polarity . THE ANIMAL CONNECTION HEALING 
MODALITIES http://members.tripod.com/~MLSchmidt/> Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2008 
06:42:38 -0800> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 
sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org> Subject: Re: [Biofuel] 
Fwd:Aspartame poisoning> > google snopes.com, they say this is a hoax> > Manick 
Harris  wrote: > > sathi perumal wrote: From: "sathi perumal" > To: "Yoga 
Arumugam" ,> "vejay" ,> "Skanthavarathan, Skanda" ,> "siva nallaiah" ,> "shiva 
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Edwards" ,> "Ihor Pidwysockyj" ,> "Hoi Ching Cheah" ,> ,> "grace abraham" ,> ,> 
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RUBASING" ,> "Bhavaani" > Subject: Fw: is this true > Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 
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http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/n/nutrasweet.htm> > > 
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Re: [Biofuel] Fwd:Aspartame poisoning

2008-01-04 Thread Marylynn Schmidt

In this case I would tend to believe that snoops.com got it wrong.  
 
I personally know far too many people horribly effected by drinking diet 
products. 
 
My ex-neighbor, a young mother who has been left nearly blind and deaf due to a 
fast moving brain tumor .. and according to her doctor this is a known side 
effect of aspartame. Because the tumor took out a great deal of her optic 
nerves and inner ear, this is not correctable.
 
A client's college student son became almost completely bald and started 
re-growing his hair once he stopped drinking the diet drinks .. he is finishing 
the process with hair replacement plugs .. a process he tells me is quite 
painful and expensive. 
 
.. and yes, I do know of the disappearing MS symptoms from 2 different people I 
swim with at the "Y". 
 
The history of Aspartame's approval by the FDA would suggest that something 
isn't quite on the up and up.
 
I tend to avoid the artificial as much as possible .. not always possible 
because I eat out mostly  .. but if the bottle lists Diet, I leave it alone.
 
.. also in the case of my client's son, even though he has not been drinking 
diet soda for a year or so, he tells me that he still craves it.
 
Mary LynnRev. Mary Lynn Schmidt, Ordained Minister ONE SPIRIT ONE HEART, Home 
of All Creature Connections: A Teaching and Healing 
MinistryFacilitator/Consultant for Alternative Healing Modalities and 
Practitioner utilizing various modalities which may include TTouch . Reiki . 
Pet Loss Grief Counseling . Animal Behavior Modification . Shamanic Spiritual 
Travel . Behavior Problems . Psionic Energy Practitioner . Radionics . Herbs . 
Dowsing . Nutrition . Homeopathy . Polarity . THE ANIMAL CONNECTION HEALING 
MODALITIES http://members.tripod.com/~MLSchmidt/> Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2008 
06:42:38 -0800> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 
sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org> Subject: Re: [Biofuel] 
Fwd:Aspartame poisoning> > google snopes.com, they say this is a hoax> > Manick 
Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > sathi perumal wrote: From: "sathi 
perumal" > To: "Yoga Arumugam" ,> "vejay" ,> "Skanthavarathan, Skanda" ,> "siva 
nallaiah" ,> "shiva balan" ,> "shanti perumal" ,> "Selva Perumal" ,> "Sean" ,> 
"Sarmilla Kunasaagaran" ,> ,> ,> "Rajeswari Swami" ,> "Raj V" ,> "Ponnambalam, 
Charmaine \(KEA\)" ,> "pirabahar p s" > ,> "peter rajah" ,> "noel samahin" ,> 
"nanda manogaran" ,> "mark rajan" ,> "Manick Harris" ,> "Mani Madewan" ,> "Mani 
Arumugam" ,> "Mala Raman" ,> "kuppusamy nadarajah" ,> "Kanny mida" ,> "Kander 
Sharala" ,> "john gnovel" ,> "jim flockhart" ,> "Janak Khendry" ,> "Indran 
Edwards" ,> "Ihor Pidwysockyj" ,> "Hoi Ching Cheah" ,> ,> "grace abraham" ,> ,> 
"Edith Lanthier" ,> ,> "chris kedrzycki" ,> "Cheah, HoiChing" ,> "CHARLES 
RUBASING" ,> "Bhavaani" > Subject: Fw: is this true > Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 
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Sathi Perumal ; Shahan Simon ; sheila tan ; stanley soosur ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 5:05 PM> Subject: FW: is this true > > > > > 
> -Original Message-> From: Someswaran, Lakshme [mailto:[EMAIL 
PROTECTED] > Sent: January 3, 2008 11:31 AM> To: Venky Someswaran> Cc: Marston, 
Lisa; Philip Charlery; ShariGopal> Subject: FW: is this true > > > there will 
no longer be died drinks in my house> > > -> 
From: Sieburgh, Diederik > Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 11:25 AM> To: 
Someswaran, Lakshme> Subject: RE: is this true > > > > Probably not:> 
http://www.breakthechain.org/exclusives/aspartame.html> > 
http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/n/nutrasweet.htm> > > 
-> From: Someswaran, Lakshme > Sent: Thursday, 
January 03, 2008 11:20 AM> To: Venky Someswaran; Sieburgh, Diederik> Subject: 
is this true > > > > > > > SWEET POISON> > A MUST READ> > > > > > > > In 
October of 2001, my sister started getting very sick. She had stomach > > 
spasms and she was having a hard time getting 

Re: [Biofuel] Fwd:Aspartame poisoning

2008-01-04 Thread e hallmark
google snopes.com,  they say this is a hoax

Manick Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 

sathi perumal  wrote:  From: "sathi perumal" 
To: "Yoga Arumugam" ,
"vejay" ,
"Skanthavarathan, Skanda" ,
"siva nallaiah" ,
"shiva balan" ,
"shanti perumal" ,
"Selva Perumal" ,
"Sean" ,
"Sarmilla Kunasaagaran" ,
,
,
"Rajeswari Swami" ,
"Raj V" ,
"Ponnambalam, Charmaine \(KEA\)" ,
"pirabahar p s" 
,
"peter rajah" ,
"noel samahin" ,
"nanda manogaran" ,
"mark rajan" ,
"Manick Harris" ,
"Mani Madewan" ,
"Mani Arumugam" ,
"Mala Raman" ,
"kuppusamy nadarajah" ,
"Kanny mida" ,
"Kander Sharala" ,
"john gnovel" ,
"jim flockhart" ,
"Janak Khendry" ,
"Indran Edwards" ,
"Ihor Pidwysockyj" ,
"Hoi Ching Cheah" ,
,
"grace abraham" ,
,
"Edith Lanthier" ,
,
"chris kedrzycki" ,
"Cheah, HoiChing" ,
"CHARLES RUBASING" ,
"Bhavaani" 
Subject: Fw: is this true 
Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 20:03:56 -0500

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  - Original Message -   From: ShariGopal 
  To: Dr. Raj Sivendra ; Rajan Edward ; Regina Wong ; Sam Rajen ; Sathi Perumal 
; Shahan Simon ; sheila tan ; stanley soosur ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 5:05 PM
  Subject: FW: is this true 

  

   
  
  -Original Message-
From: Someswaran, Lakshme [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: January 3, 2008 11:31 AM
To: Venky Someswaran
Cc: Marston, Lisa; Philip Charlery; ShariGopal
Subject: FW: is this true 


  there will no longer be died drinks in my house


-
  From: Sieburgh, Diederik 
Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 11:25 AM
To: Someswaran, Lakshme
Subject: RE: is this true 


  
  Probably not:
  http://www.breakthechain.org/exclusives/aspartame.html
   
  http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/n/nutrasweet.htm

  
-
  From: Someswaran, Lakshme 
Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 11:20 AM
To: Venky Someswaran; Sieburgh, Diederik
Subject: is this true 


  
> 
> SWEET POISON
> A MUST READ
> 
> 
> 
> In October of 2001, my sister started getting very sick. She had stomach 
> spasms and she was having a hard time getting around. Walking was a major 
> chore. It took everything she had just to get out of bed; she was in so much 
> pain.
> 
> By March 2002, she had undergone several tissue and muscle biopsies and was 
> on 24 various prescription medications. The doctors could not determine what 
> was wrong with her. She was in so much pain, and so sick. she just knew she 
> was dying. She put her house, bank accounts, life insurance, etc., in her 
> oldest daughter's name, and made sure that her younger children were to be 
> taken care of.
> 
> She also wanted her last hooray, so she planned a trip to Florida (basically 
> in a wheelchair) for March 22nd.
> 
> On March 19 I called her to ask how her most recent tests went, and she said 
> they didn't find anything on the test, but they believe she had MS.
> I recalled an article a friend of mine e-mailed to me and I asked my sister 
> if she drank diet soda? She told me that she did. As a matter of fact, she 
> was getting ready to crack one open that moment.
> 
> I told her not to open it, and to stop drinking the diet soda!
> I e-mailed her the article my friend, a lawyer, had sent.
> My sister called me within 32 hours after our phone conversation and told me 
> she had stopped drinking the diet soda AND she could walk! The muscle spasms 
> went away. She said she didn't feel 100% but she sure felt a lot better. She 
> told me she was going to her doctor with this article and would call me when 
> she got home.
> 
> Well, she called me, and said her doctor was amazed! He is going to call all 
> of his MS patients to find out if they consumed artificial sweeteners of any 
> kind.
> In a nutshell, she was being poisoned by the Aspartame in the diet 
> soda...and literally dying a slow and miserable death.
> 
> When she got to Florida March 22, all she had to take was one pill, and that 
> was a pill for the Aspartame poisoning! She is well on her way to a complete 
> recovery.
> And she is walking! No wheelchair! This article saved her life.
> If it says 'SUGAR FREE' on the label; DO NOT EVEN THINK ABOUT IT!
> I have spent several days lecturing at the WORLD ENVIRONMENTAL CONFERENCE on 
> 'ASPARTAME,' marketed as 'NutraSweet,' 'Equal,' and 'Spoonful.'
> 
> In the keynote address by the EPA, it was announced that in the United 
> States in 2001 there is an epidemic of multiple sclerosis and systemic 
> lupus. It was difficult to determine exactly what toxin was causing this to 
> be rampant.
> I stood up and said that I was there to lecture on exactly that subject.
> I will explain why Aspartame is so dangerous: When the temperature of this 
> sweetener exceeds 86 degrees F, the wood alcohol in ASPARTAME converts to 
> formaldehyde and then to formic acid, which in turn

[Biofuel] Fwd:Aspartame poisoning

2008-01-03 Thread Manick Harris


sathi perumal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  From: "sathi perumal" <[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]>
To: "Yoga Arumugam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"vejay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Skanthavarathan, Skanda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"siva nallaiah" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"shiva balan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"shanti perumal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Selva Perumal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Sean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Sarmilla Kunasaagaran" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Rajeswari Swami" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Raj V" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Ponnambalam, Charmaine \(KEA\)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"pirabahar p s" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"peter rajah" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"noel samahin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"nanda manogaran" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"mark rajan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Manick Harris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Mani Madewan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Mani Arumugam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Mala Raman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"kuppusamy nadarajah" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Kanny mida" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Kander Sharala" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"john gnovel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"jim flockhart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Janak Khendry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Indran Edwards" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Ihor Pidwysockyj" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Hoi Ching Cheah" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"grace abraham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Edith Lanthier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"chris kedrzycki" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Cheah, HoiChing" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"CHARLES RUBASING" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Bhavaani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Fw: is this true 
Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 20:03:56 -0500

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  - Original Message -   From: ShariGopal 
  To: Dr. Raj Sivendra ; Rajan Edward ; Regina Wong ; Sam Rajen ; Sathi Perumal 
; Shahan Simon ; sheila tan ; stanley soosur ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 5:05 PM
  Subject: FW: is this true 

  

   
  
  -Original Message-
From: Someswaran, Lakshme [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: January 3, 2008 11:31 AM
To: Venky Someswaran
Cc: Marston, Lisa; Philip Charlery; ShariGopal
Subject: FW: is this true 


  there will no longer be died drinks in my house


-
  From: Sieburgh, Diederik 
Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 11:25 AM
To: Someswaran, Lakshme
Subject: RE: is this true 


  
  Probably not:
  http://www.breakthechain.org/exclusives/aspartame.html
   
  http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/n/nutrasweet.htm

  
-
  From: Someswaran, Lakshme 
Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 11:20 AM
To: Venky Someswaran; Sieburgh, Diederik
Subject: is this true 


  
> 
> SWEET POISON
> A MUST READ
> 
> 
> 
> In October of 2001, my sister started getting very sick. She had stomach 
> spasms and she was having a hard time getting around. Walking was a major 
> chore. It took everything she had just to get out of bed; she was in so much 
> pain.
> 
> By March 2002, she had undergone several tissue and muscle biopsies and was 
> on 24 various prescription medications. The doctors could not determine what 
> was wrong with her. She was in so much pain, and so sick. she just knew she 
> was dying. She put her house, bank accounts, life insurance, etc., in her 
> oldest daughter's name, and made sure that her younger children were to be 
> taken care of.
> 
> She also wanted her last hooray, so she planned a trip to Florida (basically 
> in a wheelchair) for March 22nd.
> 
> On March 19 I called her to ask how her most recent tests went, and she said 
> they didn't find anything on the test, but they believe she had MS.
> I recalled an article a friend of mine e-mailed to me and I asked my sister 
> if she drank diet soda? She told me that she did. As a matter of fact, she 
> was getting ready to crack one open that moment.
> 
> I told her not to open it, and to stop drinking the diet soda!
> I e-mailed her the article my friend, a lawyer, had sent.
> My sister called me within 32 hours after our phone conversation and told me 
> she had stopped drinking the diet soda AND she could walk! The muscle spasms 
> went away. She said she didn't feel 100% but she sure felt a lot better. She 
> told me she was going to her doctor with this article and would call me when 
> she got home.
> 
> Well, she called me, and said her doctor was amazed! He is going to call all 
> of his MS patients to find out if they consumed artificial sweeteners of any 
> kind.
> In a nutshell, she was being poisoned by the Aspartame in the diet 
> soda...and literally dying a slow and miserable death.
> 
> When she got to Florida March 22, all she had to take was one pill, and that 
> was a pill for the Aspartame poisoning! She is well on her way to a complete 
> recovery.
> And she is walking! No wheelchair! This article saved her life.
> If it sa