Re: [Biofuel] I Don't Know (was amazing himalayan salt)

2006-09-19 Thread M&K DuPree



Tom...:) Thank you!  One good 
smile deserves another. :)) Smile on, brother man, and fork that 
horseshit!!! LOLwonderful post, but then, "I don't know." :)  Mike 
DuPree

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Thomas 
  Kelly 
  To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org 
  
  Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 10:19 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [Biofuel] I Don't Know (was 
  amazing himalayan salt)
  
  Mike and Joe,
   I don't know either. 
  
   It seems that we do what 
  we do and then what we do becomes part of the fabric of what we 
  are.
   
       Gustl recently 
  stated:   "It is the content of 
  the  heart  which counts the most I think but we don't have any 
  formal tests  for  that  but the heart is evidenced by our 
  actions and words."
   
    One of my teachers had two 
  small posters up in the classroom:  "Be careful of your opinions. They 
  can be traps."  and  "Listen, read, learn with an open mind. 
  Act with goodness in your heart." 
   
   There are so many things 
  we'll never know for sure. But if we continue to learn with open minds and act 
  with goodness in our hearts I think we can accept where the chips 
  fall.
   
   
  1. To vaccinate or not?  Freedom to choose. 
  If vaccines work then the vaccinated have nothing to fear from the 
  unvaccinated. Personally, I don't know.
  2. Sea salt vs. Common table salt: Since life 
  evolved in the seas it would stand to reason that the minerals in sea water 
  would have structural/functional importance to living things.
  We are familiar with iron in hemoglobin, and 
  iodine in thyroxine. There are a number of mineral cofactors needed for 
  enzymes to function properly. Combine this with the depletion of 
  micronutrients from much of our farmland and we have an interesting argument 
  for sea vs table salt. Salt from ancient seas that has risen to mountain tops 
  may have less pollutants recently introduced to the environment.
  Personally, I don't know, but am now in the 
  market for some sea salt.
   
   I spent an hour or two 
  yesterday turning about a ton of compost. All the while I was turning over 
  thoughts from your posts. My neighbor pulled up in his truck and commented: 
  "I've never seen anybody smiling like that while forking horseshit."  
    sorry, but that's what he calls my compost.
   "I don't know." In a 
  world where everybody seems to know what's best for me, it was such a 
  refreshing phrase.
   
   Cheers, I hope today is 
  good to you.
     
  Tom
  
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Joe Street 
To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org 

Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 11:09 
AM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] amazing 
himalayan salt
Hi Mike;There is a part of me ( the part I like to 
think is wise) that tends to trust what comes out of mother nature's 
laboratory much more than the industrial product. This is why I use butter 
not margarine. This is why I prefer herbs over medicines and organic foods 
over factory. This voice is always whispering that the more raw something 
is, the closer it is to it's natural state, the better.  This voice 
tells that the converse, the more refined anything is, the more goodness has 
been stripped away and the more unhealthy in terms of preservatives and 
traces of processing steps are left behind in the product.  I, like 
some others, confound myself at times with doublethink on this front 
however.  For example water purified by reverse osmosis  
definitely is free of VOC's and chlorine, flourine etc but so are the 
minerals removed and drinking highly purified water can leach minerals from 
the body.  So I stuggle to understand where the correct balance is at 
times.  Bottled spring water can contain higher than the municipal 
level of heavy metals.  I have wondered about natural salt deposits in 
this regard although I admit I have been lazy about doing my homework and 
looking for an assay on alternative salt products.  I was told that 
iodine was added to salt because there were many more cases of thyroid 
problems in the population before this was done (unless this is 
disinformation and I am to learn that it aint so and it was just a way to 
unload iodine from some excess industrial process on an unsuspecting 
population vis the flouride scene with toothpaste and city water)  It 
is often hard to know who or what to believe unless it is right in your area 
of knowledge. All I can hope to do is fight laziness and keep looking for 
information.  This list is a goldmine in this regard and I can never 
give enough thanks for all I have learned from all the contibuting members 
here.BTW the sea salt I use doesn&#

Re: [Biofuel] I Don't Know (was amazing himalayan salt)

2006-09-19 Thread Thomas Kelly



Mike and Joe,
 I don't know either. 

 It seems that we do what 
we do and then what we do becomes part of the fabric of what we 
are.
 
     Gustl recently 
stated:   "It is the content of 
the  heart  which counts the most I think but we don't have any formal 
tests  for  that  but the heart is evidenced by our actions and 
words."
 
  One of my teachers had two small 
posters up in the classroom:  "Be careful of your opinions. They can be 
traps."  and  "Listen, read, learn with an open mind. Act with 
goodness in your heart." 
 
 There are so many things 
we'll never know for sure. But if we continue to learn with open minds and act 
with goodness in our hearts I think we can accept where the chips 
fall.
 
 
1. To vaccinate or not?  Freedom to choose. If 
vaccines work then the vaccinated have nothing to fear from the unvaccinated. 
Personally, I don't know.
2. Sea salt vs. Common table salt: Since life 
evolved in the seas it would stand to reason that the minerals in sea water 
would have structural/functional importance to living things.
We are familiar with iron in hemoglobin, and iodine 
in thyroxine. There are a number of mineral cofactors needed for enzymes to 
function properly. Combine this with the depletion of micronutrients from much 
of our farmland and we have an interesting argument for sea vs table salt. Salt 
from ancient seas that has risen to mountain tops may have less pollutants 
recently introduced to the environment.
Personally, I don't know, but am now in the market 
for some sea salt.
 
 I spent an hour or two 
yesterday turning about a ton of compost. All the while I was turning over 
thoughts from your posts. My neighbor pulled up in his truck and commented: 
"I've never seen anybody smiling like that while forking horseshit."  
  sorry, but that's what he calls my compost.
 "I don't know." In a world 
where everybody seems to know what's best for me, it was such a refreshing 
phrase.
 
 Cheers, I hope today is 
good to you.
   
Tom


  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Joe Street 
  To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org 
  
  Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 11:09 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [Biofuel] amazing himalayan 
  salt
  Hi Mike;There is a part of me ( the part I like to 
  think is wise) that tends to trust what comes out of mother nature's 
  laboratory much more than the industrial product. This is why I use butter not 
  margarine. This is why I prefer herbs over medicines and organic foods over 
  factory. This voice is always whispering that the more raw something is, the 
  closer it is to it's natural state, the better.  This voice tells that 
  the converse, the more refined anything is, the more goodness has been 
  stripped away and the more unhealthy in terms of preservatives and traces of 
  processing steps are left behind in the product.  I, like some others, 
  confound myself at times with doublethink on this front however.  For 
  example water purified by reverse osmosis  definitely is free of VOC's 
  and chlorine, flourine etc but so are the minerals removed and drinking highly 
  purified water can leach minerals from the body.  So I stuggle to 
  understand where the correct balance is at times.  Bottled spring water 
  can contain higher than the municipal level of heavy metals.  I have 
  wondered about natural salt deposits in this regard although I admit I have 
  been lazy about doing my homework and looking for an assay on alternative salt 
  products.  I was told that iodine was added to salt because there were 
  many more cases of thyroid problems in the population before this was done 
  (unless this is disinformation and I am to learn that it aint so and it was 
  just a way to unload iodine from some excess industrial process on an 
  unsuspecting population vis the flouride scene with toothpaste and city 
  water)  It is often hard to know who or what to believe unless it is 
  right in your area of knowledge. All I can hope to do is fight laziness and 
  keep looking for information.  This list is a goldmine in this regard and 
  I can never give enough thanks for all I have learned from all the contibuting 
  members here.BTW the sea salt I use doesn't pour well.  I regard this 
  as encouraging.  What have 'they' done to regular table salt to make it 
  run so easily hmmm? I wonder.JoeM&K DuPree wrote:
  



Hi Bob and List...I 
don't know.  But I wish I could know all the time what is right and 
what is wrong, what is on one side and what is on another, whether or 
not there really is one side or another, but I don't know, the lines between 
this and that oftentimes become obscure.  Maybe we should vaccinate, 
maybe we shouldn't.  Maybe hell is freezing over, maybe it isn't.  
I don't know.  
 I do know this, however, I have no one to 
blame but myself.  I'm not sure I can say the same for anyone else, 
bec