Re: [Biofuel] Key House Panel Defeats Net Neutrality

2006-05-01 Thread Keith Addison
ROFL!!!

Both times!

Indeed Robert, but we somehow manage to struggle along without her 
just the same.

Keith


>Michael Redler wrote:
>
>
> > You can get anything you want at Addison's resturant (at JTF)!
> >
> > :-)
>
>   Excepting Alice . . .
>
>robert luis rabello
>"The Edge of Justice"
>Adventure for Your Mind
>http://www.newadventure.ca
>
>Ranger Supercharger Project Page
>http://www.members.shaw.ca/rabello/
 


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Re: [Biofuel] Key House Panel Defeats Net Neutrality

2006-04-30 Thread Jason & Katie
grrr, now i have that goofy song stuck in my head, yes even the narrative, 
and yes they play it on the radio once in a while back home (illinois/iowa), 
and now i cant stop singing the chorus, and yes, most definitely...I BLAME 
YOU! bleh. ;P

(actually, i like it, its a good song)



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Re: [Biofuel] Key House Panel Defeats Net Neutrality

2006-04-30 Thread robert luis rabello
Michael Redler wrote:


> You can get anything you want at Addison's resturant (at JTF)!
>  
> :-)

Excepting Alice . . .

robert luis rabello
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Re: [Biofuel] Key House Panel Defeats Net Neutrality

2006-04-30 Thread Michael Redler
"You know, if one person, just one person does it they may think he's really sick andthey won't take him. And if two people, two people do it, in harmony,they may think they're both faggots and they won't take either of them.And three people do it, three, can you imagine, three people walking insingin a bar of Alice's Restaurant and walking out. They may think it's anorganization. And can you, can you imagine fifty people a day, I saidfifty people a day walking in singin a bar of Alice's Restaurant andwalking out. And friends they may thinks it's a movement.And that's what it is , the Alice's Restaurant Anti-Massacre Movement, andall you got to do to join is sing it the next time it come's around on theguitar."  - Arlo Guthrie   http://www.websitetoolbox.com/tool/post/materchristi/vpost?id=765218 
       You can get anything you want at Addison's resturant (at JTF)!     :-)        MikeMike Weaver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  Yeah, I think it is spelled "Police State"Jason & Katie wrote:>if enough of the corporate corruption is bypassed, wouldnt that mean the >government and its institutions had been completely supplanted by the >"subversives"(aka, anyone not working as a gov't stooge)?>>- Original Message ----- >From: Michael Redler>To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org>Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 7:08 PM>Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Key House Panel Defeats Net Neutrality>>>So, do we have a new movement joining the ranks of UFPJ and
 others - this >time, to build a new internet and bypass the corporate corrupted one?>>>Mike>>Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:>http://snipurl.com/ps1x>Yahoo! News>Opinion>>Key House Panel Defeats Net Neutrality>>Jeff Chester Thu Apr 27, 5:26 PM ET>>The Nation -- The GOP House leadership rejected calls Wednesday to>preserve the Internet's open and democratic nature in the United>States. Phone and cable industry lobbyists breathed a sigh of relief>as the House Energy and Commerce Committee defeated, 34 to 22, an>amendment to a broadband communications bill (known as the>Barton-Rush Act) that would require "network neutrality." Under the>proposal, developed by Massacusetts Democrat Ed Markey and others,>phone and cable companies would have been prohibited from>transforming the Internet into a private,
 pay-as-you-post toll road.>[snip]___
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Re: [Biofuel] Key House Panel Defeats Net Neutrality

2006-04-28 Thread Jason & Katie
as long as we can stay 801.** compatible 'til i get a new laptop.
- Original Message - 
From: "Mike Weaver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 7:38 PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Key House Panel Defeats Net Neutrality


> I'm in.  AND I'm a computer geek - I think we need to go wireless.
>
> Michael Redler wrote:
>
>> So, do we have a new movement joining the ranks of UFPJ and others -
>> this time, to build a new internet and bypass the corporate corrupted 
>> one?
>>
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> */Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>/* wrote:
>>
>> http://snipurl.com/ps1x
>> Yahoo! News
>> Opinion
>>
>> Key House Panel Defeats Net Neutrality
>>
>> Jeff Chester Thu Apr 27, 5:26 PM ET
>>
>> The Nation -- The GOP House leadership rejected calls Wednesday to
>> preserve the Internet's open and democratic nature in the United
>> States. Phone and cable industry lobbyists breathed a sigh of relief
>> as the House Energy and Commerce Committee defeated, 34 to 22, an
>> amendment to a broadband communications bill (known as the
>> Barton-Rush Act) that would require "network neutrality." Under the
>> proposal, developed by Massacusetts Democrat Ed Markey and others,
>> phone and cable companies would have been prohibited from
>> transforming the Internet into a private, pay-as-you-post toll road.
>>
>> Over the past week, there has been a remarkable outpouring of public
>> and corporate support for network neutrality. SavetheInternet.com,
>> organized by Free Press and representing dozens of nonprofit groups
>> and leading Internet experts, helped generate 250,000 signatures in
>> less than a week for an online petition calling on Congress to
>> protect the Internet and pass the Markey bill.
>>
>> This new group, a collection of unusual bedfellows that runs the
>> political gamut from Common Cause, the Gun Owners of America and the
>> Parents TV Council to Craigslist founder Craig Newmark, also spurred
>> many bloggers to take a strong stand (ranging from the liberal Daily
>> Kos to the libertarian Instapundit).
>>
>> Meanwhile, Google, Microsoft, Yahoo!, Amazon, eBay and IAC, which
>> make up the Network Neutrality Coalition, unveiled their "Don't Mess
>> With the Net" campaign, running ads in Roll Call and The Hill
>> targeting lawmakers. MoveOn.org's new Save the Internet campaign also
>> generated many letters and e-mails to members of Congress.
>>
>> It is puzzling, though, why Microsoft, Google, Yahoo! and allies have
>> not unleashed a serious--and very public--nationwide campaign in
>> support of network neutrality. So far, these giants have worked
>> cautiously, largely inside the Beltway, reflecting perhaps their
>> corporate ambivalence about calling on Congress to pass
>> Internet-related safeguards. Unlike the phone and cable efforts,
>> there has been no saturation-TV or print-advertising campaign,
>> something these deep-pocketed digital giants could eaily afford.
>>
>> This growing pressure on the Democrats to stand up for an open
>> Internet helped convince House minority leader Nancy Pelosi to
>> formally support the call for network neutrality. Consequently, only
>> five House Commerce Committee Democrats voted with the GOP majority
>> to kill the digital nondiscrimination plan, including Edolphus Townes
>> (New York), Albert Wynn (Maryland), Charles Gonzalez (Texas), Bobby
>> Rush (Illinois) and Gene Green (Texas). Only one Republican committee
>> member, Heather Wilson of New Mexico, voted in support of the network
>> neutrality amendment.
>>
>> Giants including AT&T (SBC), Verizon, Comcast and Time Warner have
>> staked their business plans for the Internet based on being able to
>> control and "monetize" the flow of digital communications coming into
>> PCs, digital TVs and mobile services. The
>> Federal Communications Commission--at the behest of the phone and
>> cable lobby--recently overturned longstanding safeguards requiring
>> the Internet to operate in a nondiscriminatory manner. The two
>> industries are spending tens of millions of dollars to fight off any
>> Congressional safeguard for the Internet that would restore the
>> nondiscrimination principle.
>>
>> Commerce Committee chair Joe Ba

Re: [Biofuel] Key House Panel Defeats Net Neutrality

2006-04-28 Thread Mike Weaver
Yeah, I think it is spelled "Police State"

Jason & Katie wrote:

>if enough of the corporate corruption is bypassed, wouldnt that mean the 
>government and its institutions had been completely supplanted by the 
>"subversives"(aka, anyone not working as a gov't stooge)?
>
>- Original Message - 
>From: Michael Redler
>To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
>Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 7:08 PM
>Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Key House Panel Defeats Net Neutrality
>
>
>So, do we have a new movement joining the ranks of UFPJ and others - this 
>time, to build a new internet and bypass the corporate corrupted one?
>
>
>Mike
>
>Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>http://snipurl.com/ps1x
>Yahoo! News
>Opinion
>
>Key House Panel Defeats Net Neutrality
>
>Jeff Chester Thu Apr 27, 5:26 PM ET
>
>The Nation -- The GOP House leadership rejected calls Wednesday to
>preserve the Internet's open and democratic nature in the United
>States. Phone and cable industry lobbyists breathed a sigh of relief
>as the House Energy and Commerce Committee defeated, 34 to 22, an
>amendment to a broadband communications bill (known as the
>Barton-Rush Act) that would require "network neutrality." Under the
>proposal, developed by Massacusetts Democrat Ed Markey and others,
>phone and cable companies would have been prohibited from
>transforming the Internet into a private, pay-as-you-post toll road.
>
>Over the past week, there has been a remarkable outpouring of public
>and corporate support for network neutrality. SavetheInternet.com,
>organized by Free Press and representing dozens of nonprofit groups
>and leading Internet experts, helped generate 250,000 signatures in
>less than a week for an online petition calling on Congress to
>protect the Internet and pass the Markey bill.
>
>This new group, a collection of unusual bedfellows that runs the
>political gamut from Common Cause, the Gun Owners of America and the
>Parents TV Council to Craigslist founder Craig Newmark, also spurred
>many bloggers to take a strong stand (ranging from the liberal Daily
>Kos to the libertarian Instapundit).
>
>Meanwhile, Google, Microsoft, Yahoo!, Amazon, eBay and IAC, which
>make up the Network Neutrality Coalition, unveiled their "Don't Mess
>With the Net" campaign, running ads in Roll Call and The Hill
>targeting lawmakers. MoveOn.org's new Save the Internet campaign also
>generated many letters and e-mails to members of Congress.
>
>It is puzzling, though, why Microsoft, Google, Yahoo! and allies have
>not unleashed a serious--and very public--nationwide campaign in
>support of network neutrality. So far, these giants have worked
>cautiously, largely inside the Beltway, reflecting perhaps their
>corporate ambivalence about calling on Congress to pass
>Internet-related safeguards. Unlike the phone and cable efforts,
>there has been no saturation-TV or print-advertising campaign,
>something these deep-pocketed digital giants could eaily afford.
>
>This growing pressure on the Democrats to stand up for an open
>Internet helped convince House minority leader Nancy Pelosi to
>formally support the call for network neutrality. Consequently, only
>five House Commerce Committee Democrats voted with the GOP majority
>to kill the digital nondiscrimination plan, including Edolphus Townes
>(New York), Albert Wynn (Maryland), Charles Gonzalez (Texas), Bobby
>Rush (Illinois) and Gene Green (Texas). Only one Republican committee
>member, Heather Wilson of New Mexico, voted in support of the network
>neutrality amendment.
>
>Giants including AT&T (SBC), Verizon, Comcast and Time Warner have
>staked their business plans for the Internet based on being able to
>control and "monetize" the flow of digital communications coming into
>PCs, digital TVs and mobile services. The
>Federal Communications Commission--at the behest of the phone and
>cable lobby--recently overturned longstanding safeguards requiring
>the Internet to operate in a nondiscriminatory manner. The two
>industries are spending tens of millions of dollars to fight off any
>Congressional safeguard for the Internet that would restore the
>nondiscrimination principle.
>
>Commerce Committee chair Joe Barton and House Speaker
>Dennis Hastert have been the chief cheerleaders for the cable and
>phone lobby. On Wednesday, Barton derided the call for network
>neutrality, claiming that it's "still not clearly defined. It's kind
>of like pornography: You know it when you see it." Barton and Hastert
>are expected, as early as next week, to successfully pass the bill in
>the House without a network neutrality provision. A showdown is now

Re: [Biofuel] Key House Panel Defeats Net Neutrality

2006-04-28 Thread Mike Weaver
I'm in.  AND I'm a computer geek - I think we need to go wireless.

Michael Redler wrote:

> So, do we have a new movement joining the ranks of UFPJ and others - 
> this time, to build a new internet and bypass the corporate corrupted one?
>  
>  
> Mike
>
> */Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>/* wrote:
>
> http://snipurl.com/ps1x
> Yahoo! News
> Opinion
>
> Key House Panel Defeats Net Neutrality
>
> Jeff Chester Thu Apr 27, 5:26 PM ET
>
> The Nation -- The GOP House leadership rejected calls Wednesday to
> preserve the Internet's open and democratic nature in the United
> States. Phone and cable industry lobbyists breathed a sigh of relief
> as the House Energy and Commerce Committee defeated, 34 to 22, an
> amendment to a broadband communications bill (known as the
> Barton-Rush Act) that would require "network neutrality." Under the
> proposal, developed by Massacusetts Democrat Ed Markey and others,
> phone and cable companies would have been prohibited from
> transforming the Internet into a private, pay-as-you-post toll road.
>
> Over the past week, there has been a remarkable outpouring of public
> and corporate support for network neutrality. SavetheInternet.com,
> organized by Free Press and representing dozens of nonprofit groups
> and leading Internet experts, helped generate 250,000 signatures in
> less than a week for an online petition calling on Congress to
> protect the Internet and pass the Markey bill.
>
> This new group, a collection of unusual bedfellows that runs the
> political gamut from Common Cause, the Gun Owners of America and the
> Parents TV Council to Craigslist founder Craig Newmark, also spurred
> many bloggers to take a strong stand (ranging from the liberal Daily
> Kos to the libertarian Instapundit).
>
> Meanwhile, Google, Microsoft, Yahoo!, Amazon, eBay and IAC, which
> make up the Network Neutrality Coalition, unveiled their "Don't Mess
> With the Net" campaign, running ads in Roll Call and The Hill
> targeting lawmakers. MoveOn.org's new Save the Internet campaign also
> generated many letters and e-mails to members of Congress.
>
> It is puzzling, though, why Microsoft, Google, Yahoo! and allies have
> not unleashed a serious--and very public--nationwide campaign in
> support of network neutrality. So far, these giants have worked
> cautiously, largely inside the Beltway, reflecting perhaps their
> corporate ambivalence about calling on Congress to pass
> Internet-related safeguards. Unlike the phone and cable efforts,
> there has been no saturation-TV or print-advertising campaign,
> something these deep-pocketed digital giants could eaily afford.
>
> This growing pressure on the Democrats to stand up for an open
> Internet helped convince House minority leader Nancy Pelosi to
> formally support the call for network neutrality. Consequently, only
> five House Commerce Committee Democrats voted with the GOP majority
> to kill the digital nondiscrimination plan, including Edolphus Townes
> (New York), Albert Wynn (Maryland), Charles Gonzalez (Texas), Bobby
> Rush (Illinois) and Gene Green (Texas). Only one Republican committee
> member, Heather Wilson of New Mexico, voted in support of the network
> neutrality amendment.
>
> Giants including AT&T (SBC), Verizon, Comcast and Time Warner have
> staked their business plans for the Internet based on being able to
> control and "monetize" the flow of digital communications coming into
> PCs, digital TVs and mobile services. The
> Federal Communications Commission--at the behest of the phone and
> cable lobby--recently overturned longstanding safeguards requiring
> the Internet to operate in a nondiscriminatory manner. The two
> industries are spending tens of millions of dollars to fight off any
> Congressional safeguard for the Internet that would restore the
> nondiscrimination principle.
>
> Commerce Committee chair Joe Barton and House Speaker
> Dennis Hastert have been the chief cheerleaders for the cable and
> phone lobby. On Wednesday, Barton derided the call for network
> neutrality, claiming that it's "still not clearly defined. It's kind
> of like pornography: You know it when you see it." Barton and Hastert
> are expected, as early as next week, to successfully pass the bill in
> the House without a network neutrality provision. A showdown is now
> looming in the Senate Commerce Committee, which is about to take up
> its own broadband Internet legislation. A bipartisan network
> neutrality amendment, similar to what was just defeated in the House
> committee, will be offered by Senators Olympia Snowe and Byron
> Dorgan. Public-interest advocates and corporate allies plan to
> mobilize an even larger outcry of support for this proposal.
>
>

Re: [Biofuel] Key House Panel Defeats Net Neutrality

2006-04-28 Thread Jason & Katie
if enough of the corporate corruption is bypassed, wouldnt that mean the 
government and its institutions had been completely supplanted by the 
"subversives"(aka, anyone not working as a gov't stooge)?

- Original Message - 
From: Michael Redler
To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 7:08 PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Key House Panel Defeats Net Neutrality


So, do we have a new movement joining the ranks of UFPJ and others - this 
time, to build a new internet and bypass the corporate corrupted one?


Mike

Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
http://snipurl.com/ps1x
Yahoo! News
Opinion

Key House Panel Defeats Net Neutrality

Jeff Chester Thu Apr 27, 5:26 PM ET

The Nation -- The GOP House leadership rejected calls Wednesday to
preserve the Internet's open and democratic nature in the United
States. Phone and cable industry lobbyists breathed a sigh of relief
as the House Energy and Commerce Committee defeated, 34 to 22, an
amendment to a broadband communications bill (known as the
Barton-Rush Act) that would require "network neutrality." Under the
proposal, developed by Massacusetts Democrat Ed Markey and others,
phone and cable companies would have been prohibited from
transforming the Internet into a private, pay-as-you-post toll road.

Over the past week, there has been a remarkable outpouring of public
and corporate support for network neutrality. SavetheInternet.com,
organized by Free Press and representing dozens of nonprofit groups
and leading Internet experts, helped generate 250,000 signatures in
less than a week for an online petition calling on Congress to
protect the Internet and pass the Markey bill.

This new group, a collection of unusual bedfellows that runs the
political gamut from Common Cause, the Gun Owners of America and the
Parents TV Council to Craigslist founder Craig Newmark, also spurred
many bloggers to take a strong stand (ranging from the liberal Daily
Kos to the libertarian Instapundit).

Meanwhile, Google, Microsoft, Yahoo!, Amazon, eBay and IAC, which
make up the Network Neutrality Coalition, unveiled their "Don't Mess
With the Net" campaign, running ads in Roll Call and The Hill
targeting lawmakers. MoveOn.org's new Save the Internet campaign also
generated many letters and e-mails to members of Congress.

It is puzzling, though, why Microsoft, Google, Yahoo! and allies have
not unleashed a serious--and very public--nationwide campaign in
support of network neutrality. So far, these giants have worked
cautiously, largely inside the Beltway, reflecting perhaps their
corporate ambivalence about calling on Congress to pass
Internet-related safeguards. Unlike the phone and cable efforts,
there has been no saturation-TV or print-advertising campaign,
something these deep-pocketed digital giants could eaily afford.

This growing pressure on the Democrats to stand up for an open
Internet helped convince House minority leader Nancy Pelosi to
formally support the call for network neutrality. Consequently, only
five House Commerce Committee Democrats voted with the GOP majority
to kill the digital nondiscrimination plan, including Edolphus Townes
(New York), Albert Wynn (Maryland), Charles Gonzalez (Texas), Bobby
Rush (Illinois) and Gene Green (Texas). Only one Republican committee
member, Heather Wilson of New Mexico, voted in support of the network
neutrality amendment.

Giants including AT&T (SBC), Verizon, Comcast and Time Warner have
staked their business plans for the Internet based on being able to
control and "monetize" the flow of digital communications coming into
PCs, digital TVs and mobile services. The
Federal Communications Commission--at the behest of the phone and
cable lobby--recently overturned longstanding safeguards requiring
the Internet to operate in a nondiscriminatory manner. The two
industries are spending tens of millions of dollars to fight off any
Congressional safeguard for the Internet that would restore the
nondiscrimination principle.

Commerce Committee chair Joe Barton and House Speaker
Dennis Hastert have been the chief cheerleaders for the cable and
phone lobby. On Wednesday, Barton derided the call for network
neutrality, claiming that it's "still not clearly defined. It's kind
of like pornography: You know it when you see it." Barton and Hastert
are expected, as early as next week, to successfully pass the bill in
the House without a network neutrality provision. A showdown is now
looming in the Senate Commerce Committee, which is about to take up
its own broadband Internet legislation. A bipartisan network
neutrality amendment, similar to what was just defeated in the House
committee, will be offered by Senators Olympia Snowe and Byron
Dorgan. Public-interest advocates and corporate allies plan to
mobilize an even larger outcry of support for this proposal.

With midterm elections looming, GOP leaders will come under

Re: [Biofuel] Key House Panel Defeats Net Neutrality

2006-04-28 Thread Michael Redler
So, do we have a new movement joining the ranks of UFPJ and others - this time, to build a new internet and bypass the corporate corrupted one?        MikeKeith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  http://snipurl.com/ps1xYahoo! NewsOpinionKey House Panel Defeats Net NeutralityJeff Chester Thu Apr 27, 5:26 PM ETThe Nation -- The GOP House leadership rejected calls Wednesday to preserve the Internet's open and democratic nature in the United States. Phone and cable industry lobbyists breathed a sigh of relief as the House Energy and Commerce Committee defeated, 34 to 22, an amendment to a broadband communications bill (known as the Barton-Rush Act) that would require "network neutrality." Under the proposal, developed by
 Massacusetts Democrat Ed Markey and others, phone and cable companies would have been prohibited from transforming the Internet into a private, pay-as-you-post toll road.Over the past week, there has been a remarkable outpouring of public and corporate support for network neutrality. SavetheInternet.com, organized by Free Press and representing dozens of nonprofit groups and leading Internet experts, helped generate 250,000 signatures in less than a week for an online petition calling on Congress to protect the Internet and pass the Markey bill.This new group, a collection of unusual bedfellows that runs the political gamut from Common Cause, the Gun Owners of America and the Parents TV Council to Craigslist founder Craig Newmark, also spurred many bloggers to take a strong stand (ranging from the liberal Daily Kos to the libertarian Instapundit).Meanwhile, Google, Microsoft, Yahoo!, Amazon, eBay and IAC,
 which make up the Network Neutrality Coalition, unveiled their "Don't Mess With the Net" campaign, running ads in Roll Call and The Hill targeting lawmakers. MoveOn.org's new Save the Internet campaign also generated many letters and e-mails to members of Congress.It is puzzling, though, why Microsoft, Google, Yahoo! and allies have not unleashed a serious--and very public--nationwide campaign in support of network neutrality. So far, these giants have worked cautiously, largely inside the Beltway, reflecting perhaps their corporate ambivalence about calling on Congress to pass Internet-related safeguards. Unlike the phone and cable efforts, there has been no saturation-TV or print-advertising campaign, something these deep-pocketed digital giants could eaily afford.This growing pressure on the Democrats to stand up for an open Internet helped convince House minority leader Nancy Pelosi to formally support
 the call for network neutrality. Consequently, only five House Commerce Committee Democrats voted with the GOP majority to kill the digital nondiscrimination plan, including Edolphus Townes (New York), Albert Wynn (Maryland), Charles Gonzalez (Texas), Bobby Rush (Illinois) and Gene Green (Texas). Only one Republican committee member, Heather Wilson of New Mexico, voted in support of the network neutrality amendment.Giants including AT&T (SBC), Verizon, Comcast and Time Warner have staked their business plans for the Internet based on being able to control and "monetize" the flow of digital communications coming into PCs, digital TVs and mobile services. TheFederal Communications Commission--at the behest of the phone and cable lobby--recently overturned longstanding safeguards requiring the Internet to operate in a nondiscriminatory manner. The two industries are spending tens of millions of dollars to fight
 off any Congressional safeguard for the Internet that would restore the nondiscrimination principle.Commerce Committee chair Joe Barton and House SpeakerDennis Hastert have been the chief cheerleaders for the cable and phone lobby. On Wednesday, Barton derided the call for network neutrality, claiming that it's "still not clearly defined. It's kind of like pornography: You know it when you see it." Barton and Hastert are expected, as early as next week, to successfully pass the bill in the House without a network neutrality provision. A showdown is now looming in the Senate Commerce Committee, which is about to take up its own broadband Internet legislation. A bipartisan network neutrality amendment, similar to what was just defeated in the House committee, will be offered by Senators Olympia Snowe and Byron Dorgan. Public-interest advocates and corporate allies plan to mobilize an even larger outcry of
 support for this proposal.With midterm elections looming, GOP leaders will come under increasing pressure to make a choice. Will they continue to back their few phone and cable industry supporters and keep the open Internet safeguards off the table? Or will they recognize that a genuine digital-age protest movement is emerging that could further harm their party's chances in November? The next few weeks will reveal whether the "smart mobs" can win over a tiny handful of communications monopolists.___
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Re: [Biofuel] Key House Panel Defeats Net Neutrality

2006-04-28 Thread Michael Redler
So, do we have a new movement joining the ranks of UFPJ and others - this time, to build a new internet and bypass the corporate corrupted one?        MikeKeith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  http://snipurl.com/ps1xYahoo! NewsOpinionKey House Panel Defeats Net NeutralityJeff Chester Thu Apr 27, 5:26 PM ETThe Nation -- The GOP House leadership rejected calls Wednesday to preserve the Internet's open and democratic nature in the United States. Phone and cable industry lobbyists breathed a sigh of relief as the House Energy and Commerce Committee defeated, 34 to 22, an amendment to a broadband communications bill (known as the Barton-Rush Act) that would require "network neutrality." Under the proposal, developed by
 Massacusetts Democrat Ed Markey and others, phone and cable companies would have been prohibited from transforming the Internet into a private, pay-as-you-post toll road.Over the past week, there has been a remarkable outpouring of public and corporate support for network neutrality. SavetheInternet.com, organized by Free Press and representing dozens of nonprofit groups and leading Internet experts, helped generate 250,000 signatures in less than a week for an online petition calling on Congress to protect the Internet and pass the Markey bill.This new group, a collection of unusual bedfellows that runs the political gamut from Common Cause, the Gun Owners of America and the Parents TV Council to Craigslist founder Craig Newmark, also spurred many bloggers to take a strong stand (ranging from the liberal Daily Kos to the libertarian Instapundit).Meanwhile, Google, Microsoft, Yahoo!, Amazon, eBay and IAC,
 which make up the Network Neutrality Coalition, unveiled their "Don't Mess With the Net" campaign, running ads in Roll Call and The Hill targeting lawmakers. MoveOn.org's new Save the Internet campaign also generated many letters and e-mails to members of Congress.It is puzzling, though, why Microsoft, Google, Yahoo! and allies have not unleashed a serious--and very public--nationwide campaign in support of network neutrality. So far, these giants have worked cautiously, largely inside the Beltway, reflecting perhaps their corporate ambivalence about calling on Congress to pass Internet-related safeguards. Unlike the phone and cable efforts, there has been no saturation-TV or print-advertising campaign, something these deep-pocketed digital giants could eaily afford.This growing pressure on the Democrats to stand up for an open Internet helped convince House minority leader Nancy Pelosi to formally support
 the call for network neutrality. Consequently, only five House Commerce Committee Democrats voted with the GOP majority to kill the digital nondiscrimination plan, including Edolphus Townes (New York), Albert Wynn (Maryland), Charles Gonzalez (Texas), Bobby Rush (Illinois) and Gene Green (Texas). Only one Republican committee member, Heather Wilson of New Mexico, voted in support of the network neutrality amendment.Giants including AT&T (SBC), Verizon, Comcast and Time Warner have staked their business plans for the Internet based on being able to control and "monetize" the flow of digital communications coming into PCs, digital TVs and mobile services. TheFederal Communications Commission--at the behest of the phone and cable lobby--recently overturned longstanding safeguards requiring the Internet to operate in a nondiscriminatory manner. The two industries are spending tens of millions of dollars to fight
 off any Congressional safeguard for the Internet that would restore the nondiscrimination principle.Commerce Committee chair Joe Barton and House SpeakerDennis Hastert have been the chief cheerleaders for the cable and phone lobby. On Wednesday, Barton derided the call for network neutrality, claiming that it's "still not clearly defined. It's kind of like pornography: You know it when you see it." Barton and Hastert are expected, as early as next week, to successfully pass the bill in the House without a network neutrality provision. A showdown is now looming in the Senate Commerce Committee, which is about to take up its own broadband Internet legislation. A bipartisan network neutrality amendment, similar to what was just defeated in the House committee, will be offered by Senators Olympia Snowe and Byron Dorgan. Public-interest advocates and corporate allies plan to mobilize an even larger outcry of
 support for this proposal.With midterm elections looming, GOP leaders will come under increasing pressure to make a choice. Will they continue to back their few phone and cable industry supporters and keep the open Internet safeguards off the table? Or will they recognize that a genuine digital-age protest movement is emerging that could further harm their party's chances in November? The next few weeks will reveal whether the "smart mobs" can win over a tiny handful of communications monopolists.___
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[Biofuel] Key House Panel Defeats Net Neutrality

2006-04-28 Thread Keith Addison
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Opinion

Key House Panel Defeats Net Neutrality

Jeff Chester Thu Apr 27, 5:26 PM ET

The Nation -- The GOP House leadership rejected calls Wednesday to 
preserve the Internet's open and democratic nature in the United 
States. Phone and cable industry lobbyists breathed a sigh of relief 
as the House Energy and Commerce Committee defeated, 34 to 22, an 
amendment to a broadband communications bill (known as the 
Barton-Rush Act) that would require "network neutrality." Under the 
proposal, developed by Massacusetts Democrat Ed Markey and others, 
phone and cable companies would have been prohibited from 
transforming the Internet into a private, pay-as-you-post toll road.

Over the past week, there has been a remarkable outpouring of public 
and corporate support for network neutrality. SavetheInternet.com, 
organized by Free Press and representing dozens of nonprofit groups 
and leading Internet experts, helped generate 250,000 signatures in 
less than a week for an online petition calling on Congress to 
protect the Internet and pass the Markey bill.

This new group, a collection of unusual bedfellows that runs the 
political gamut from Common Cause, the Gun Owners of America and the 
Parents TV Council to Craigslist founder Craig Newmark, also spurred 
many bloggers to take a strong stand (ranging from the liberal Daily 
Kos to the libertarian Instapundit).

Meanwhile, Google, Microsoft, Yahoo!, Amazon, eBay and IAC, which 
make up the Network Neutrality Coalition, unveiled their "Don't Mess 
With the Net" campaign, running ads in Roll Call and The Hill 
targeting lawmakers. MoveOn.org's new Save the Internet campaign also 
generated many letters and e-mails to members of Congress.

It is puzzling, though, why Microsoft, Google, Yahoo! and allies have 
not unleashed a serious--and very public--nationwide campaign in 
support of network neutrality. So far, these giants have worked 
cautiously, largely inside the Beltway, reflecting perhaps their 
corporate ambivalence about calling on Congress to pass 
Internet-related safeguards. Unlike the phone and cable efforts, 
there has been no saturation-TV or print-advertising campaign, 
something these deep-pocketed digital giants could eaily afford.

This growing pressure on the Democrats to stand up for an open 
Internet helped convince House minority leader Nancy Pelosi to 
formally support the call for network neutrality. Consequently, only 
five House Commerce Committee Democrats voted with the GOP majority 
to kill the digital nondiscrimination plan, including Edolphus Townes 
(New York), Albert Wynn (Maryland), Charles Gonzalez (Texas), Bobby 
Rush (Illinois) and Gene Green (Texas). Only one Republican committee 
member, Heather Wilson of New Mexico, voted in support of the network 
neutrality amendment.

Giants including AT&T (SBC), Verizon, Comcast and Time Warner have 
staked their business plans for the Internet based on being able to 
control and "monetize" the flow of digital communications coming into 
PCs, digital TVs and mobile services. The
Federal Communications Commission--at the behest of the phone and 
cable lobby--recently overturned longstanding safeguards requiring 
the Internet to operate in a nondiscriminatory manner. The two 
industries are spending tens of millions of dollars to fight off any 
Congressional safeguard for the Internet that would restore the 
nondiscrimination principle.

Commerce Committee chair Joe Barton and House Speaker
Dennis Hastert have been the chief cheerleaders for the cable and 
phone lobby. On Wednesday, Barton derided the call for network 
neutrality, claiming that it's "still not clearly defined. It's kind 
of like pornography: You know it when you see it." Barton and Hastert 
are expected, as early as next week, to successfully pass the bill in 
the House without a network neutrality provision. A showdown is now 
looming in the Senate Commerce Committee, which is about to take up 
its own broadband Internet legislation. A bipartisan network 
neutrality amendment, similar to what was just defeated in the House 
committee, will be offered by Senators Olympia Snowe and Byron 
Dorgan. Public-interest advocates and corporate allies plan to 
mobilize an even larger outcry of support for this proposal.

With midterm elections looming, GOP leaders will come under 
increasing pressure to make a choice. Will they continue to back 
their few phone and cable industry supporters and keep the open 
Internet safeguards off the table? Or will they recognize that a 
genuine digital-age protest movement is emerging that could further 
harm their party's chances in November? The next few weeks will 
reveal whether the "smart mobs" can win over a tiny handful of 
communications monopolists.


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