RE: [Biofuel] Running on WVO
Do you mean new or new to you? The late model Cummins has a electronic common rail injection system and should not be used with w v o. Check out www.greasecar.com there are others but I don't remember the address. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of stephan torak Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2005 3:51 PM To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Running on WVO Hi Andy, and all the other Jeep Liberty Diesel prospective buyers I have one (only about 1500 mi) and here is my opinion. it is a good car, but I expected it to run a bit more economical in other words it is a borderline guzzler. Space is sufficient for 4 even 5 passengers, cargo room is ok but not overwhelming. According to an article the US models were shipped with 5% biodiesel in the tank, but the owner's documentation says nothing about biodiesel. It says a lot of things fuelrelated about the gasoline models but to my surprise the docs make no peep about BD. Understandably I only run a max of 20 % BD and it is not complaining at all. No oxygen or who knows what sensor has yet complained It has a Cat and I wasn't yet able to find out if there are potential problems (long term) running BD. It also specifies to use synthetic oil for the Jeep, but the price difference nowadays makes that one easy to swallow. Personally, I would NOT EVEN THINK about converting the Jeep to run on WVO because the common rail design's efficiency depends completely on the viscosity of the fuel. Also, the computer and the multi port injection is far too sophisticated to mess with. I'd go with the Cummins, and a used one, too. That's just my opinion good luck and regards, Stephan in balmy Hawaii. Andy Karpay wrote: Hi all. I am relatively new to the list, and enjoy all the topics. Some mighty thoughtful folks in the group. I am currently running a 1981 Mercedes 300SD on filtered WVO. It runs great, and my wife swears it even runs better than on dino fuel. I am looking to purchase a newer vehicle to operate for my job which involves traveling about 3000 miles per month (sales). I live in Florida so heating has not been an issue (yet) and I have calculated that by using between 10% to 50% dino diesel (depending on ambient temperature) it'll be more cost effective than having to make the biodiesel year round. I figure December, January, February I can run 50-50, then increase WVO content as the spring and summer arrive. It has worked well so far and am looking to perhaps purchase a new or newer vehicle for that purpose. My dilemma is whether to buy a Dodge 2500 with the Cummins, which is way more vehicle than I really need, (but I like the engine) or (what else is there?). I recently looked at the Chrysler Jeep Liberty with the diesel engine. It would seem to fulfill all my needs. Since this is the first year out for them there are uncertainties, but does anyone know about the chances of good operation with WVO on this vehicle/engine? Andy Karpay - Tampa FL ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Running on WVO
Hi all. I am relatively new to the list, and enjoy all the topics. Some mighty thoughtful folks in the group. I am currently running a 1981 Mercedes 300SD on filtered WVO. It runs great, and my wife swears it even runs better than on dino fuel. I am looking to purchase a newer vehicle to operate for my job which involves traveling about 3000 miles per month (sales). I live in Florida so heating has not been an issue (yet) and I have calculated that by using between 10% to 50% dino diesel (depending on ambient temperature) it'll be more cost effective than having to make the biodiesel year round. I figure December, January, February I can run 50-50, then increase WVO content as the spring and summer arrive. It has worked well so far and am looking to perhaps purchase a new or newer vehicle for that purpose. My dilemma is whether to buy a Dodge 2500 with the Cummins, which is way more vehicle than I really need, (but I like the engine) or (what else is there?). I recently looked at the Chrysler Jeep Liberty with the diesel engine. It would seem to fulfill all my needs. Since this is the first year out for them there are uncertainties, but does anyone know about the chances of good operation with WVO on this vehicle/engine? Andy Karpay - Tampa FL ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Running on WVO
HI, There are a few who are using 50:50 furnace and Bio to heat their homes in a conventional oil furnace.. Has anyone tried a 50:50 mix of WVO and furnace to do the same. I converted my VW to WVO, quit easy I might add and would like to try WVO in the oil furnace. The pre heater was approximately $30.00 in cost and that expensive because I was in a hury to buy and did not shop aroune. The pre heater consists of 10 ft fuel grade 5/16 fabricated line wrapped around my intake heated hose prior to the fuel going to my fuel filter. Any one with experience using WVO in the furnace I would like to hear from. Yours truly John Wilson *** Wilsonia Farm Kennel Preserve Goldens Ph-Fax (902)665-2386) Web: http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/goldens/new.htm Pups: http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/goldens/pup.htm Politics: http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/goldens/elect.htm http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/goldens/c68.htm In Nova Scotia smoking permitted in designated areas only until 9:00 PM . After 9:00 it is okey to kill everyone. ^ Nova Scotia going smoke-free in public by 2006 (FANTASTIC) ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Running on WVO
Hi Andy, and all the other Jeep Liberty Diesel prospective buyers I have one (only about 1500 mi) and here is my opinion. it is a good car, but I expected it to run a bit more economical in other words it is a borderline guzzler. Space is sufficient for 4 even 5 passengers, cargo room is ok but not overwhelming. According to an article the US models were shipped with 5% biodiesel in the tank, but the owner's documentation says nothing about biodiesel. It says a lot of things fuelrelated about the gasoline models but to my surprise the docs make no peep about BD. Understandably I only run a max of 20 % BD and it is not complaining at all. No oxygen or who knows what sensor has yet complained It has a Cat and I wasn't yet able to find out if there are potential problems (long term) running BD. It also specifies to use synthetic oil for the Jeep, but the price difference nowadays makes that one easy to swallow. Personally, I would NOT EVEN THINK about converting the Jeep to run on WVO because the common rail design's efficiency depends completely on the viscosity of the fuel. Also, the computer and the multi port injection is far too sophisticated to mess with. I'd go with the Cummins, and a used one, too. That's just my opinion good luck and regards, Stephan in balmy Hawaii. Andy Karpay wrote: Hi all. I am relatively new to the list, and enjoy all the topics. Some mighty thoughtful folks in the group. I am currently running a 1981 Mercedes 300SD on filtered WVO. It runs great, and my wife swears it even runs better than on dino fuel. I am looking to purchase a newer vehicle to operate for my job which involves traveling about 3000 miles per month (sales). I live in Florida so heating has not been an issue (yet) and I have calculated that by using between 10% to 50% dino diesel (depending on ambient temperature) it'll be more cost effective than having to make the biodiesel year round. I figure December, January, February I can run 50-50, then increase WVO content as the spring and summer arrive. It has worked well so far and am looking to perhaps purchase a new or newer vehicle for that purpose. My dilemma is whether to buy a Dodge 2500 with the Cummins, which is way more vehicle than I really need, (but I like the engine) or (what else is there?). I recently looked at the Chrysler Jeep Liberty with the diesel engine. It would seem to fulfill all my needs. Since this is the first year out for them there are uncertainties, but does anyone know about the chances of good operation with WVO on this vehicle/engine? Andy Karpay - Tampa FL ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
