Re: [Biofuel] THE TRUTH BEHIND THE VACCINE COVER-UP

2006-10-18 Thread D. Mindock
Here is a treasure trove of the fallacies of vaccination. If some weak 
people insist on getting
vaccinated, fine. But it goes over the line when they force others to get 
vaccinated as well. And that
is what is happening. Big Pharma wants total control of your body. And they 
are inducing weak
politicians to make the laws necessary.
http://www.shirleys-wellness-cafe.com/vaccines.htm


From AAPS:

The Physician's Desk Reference cites adverse reactions to the hepatitis B in 
less than 1 percent. However, if more than 70 million American children 
receive the vaccine, that means more than 700,000 children are likely to 
suffer adverse reactions.

Children are a very low risk group for hepatitis B. Primary risk factors are 
dependent on lifestyle, i.e. multiple sex partners, drug abuse or an 
occupation with exposure to blood.

Rampant conflicts of interest in the approval process has been the subject 
of several Congressional hearings, and a recent Congressional report 
concluded that the pharmaceutical industry has indeed exerted undue 
influence on mandatory vaccine legislation toward its own financial 
interests.

The vaccine approval process has also been contaminated by flawed or 
incomplete clinical trials, and government officials have chosen to ignore 
negative results. For example, the CDC was forced to withdraw its 
recommendation of the rotavirus vaccine within one year of approval. Yet 
public documents obtained by AAPS show that the CDC was aware of alarmingly 
high intussuception rates months before the vaccine was approved and 
recommended.

Mandatory vaccines violate the medical ethic of informed consent. A case 
could also be made that mandates for vaccines by school districts and 
legislatures is the de facto practice of medicine without a license.

The CDC's own Guide to Contraindications to Childhood Vaccination warns 
that when assessing children's common symptoms, if any one of them is a 
contraindication, DO NOT VACCINATE [caps added]. And yet, under legislated 
mandates, the vaccines are still required.

End AAPS excerpt.

IMO, mandatory vaccinations are not Constitutional. We have nothing if we 
have no control over our own
bodies against outside forces. If my home is my castle, then what is my 
body?

Peace, D. Mindock  P.S. Marilynn, thanks for this topic as it hits home to 
what this country is becoming.

- Original Message - 
From: Marylynn Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 6:19 PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] THE TRUTH BEHIND THE VACCINE COVER-UP


 All those bumper stickers loudly proclaiming that Abortion Is Not A 
 Medical
 Procedure has always made me wonder if the average individual actually 
 knows
 that Childbirth is Not a Medical Procedure Either.

 Historically the midwife (mid-wiff-ery) or the village medicine woman
 assisted with the help of the women of the family .. but back a couple of
 thousand years with the rise of the church any woman with herbal knowledge
 was branded as a witch and disposed of .. and THEN the church got to
 confiscated any property she may have owned .. glory be.

 .. and so the present day medical profession was born .. and the medical
 profession will tell you all the horror stories about all the things that
 can go wrong in gory detail.

 The reality is that things can go wrong with a tooth extraction but the
 majority of births in the majority of countries are normal, go well and 
 the
 living child is healthy.

 It almost sounds as if the hospital environment was a well timed hostage
 situation with that paper work.

 Perhaps it is time to reconsider finding a midwife.

 .. Or .. I don't have the details right now, but I believe a congresswoman
 (forgotten name for now) DEMANDED that the vaccine safety studies include
 the 3 separate non-vaccinated groups that exist here in the United States
 and be compare, side by side with those that have been vaccinated.

 .. the pharmas  company have been reluctant to include them in their
 studies .. humm

 One large group is the Amish .. a Second large group is the Home Schooled 
 ..
 and the Third group was a medical practice in the Illinois/Kansas area.

 Medical doctors who assist in your home who do not vaccinate .. wow .. you
 would wonder why the AMA hasn't shut those suckers down!!

 Mary Lynn
 Rev. Mary Lynn Schmidt, Ordained Minister
 ONE SPIRIT ONE HEART
 TTouch . Reiki . Pet Loss Grief Counseling . Animal Behavior Modification 
 .
 Shamanic Spiritual Travel . Behavior Problems . Psionic Energy 
 Practitioner
 . Radionics . Herbs . Dowsing . Nutrition . Homeopathy . Polarity .
 The Animal Connection Healing Modalities
 http://members.tripod.com/~MLSchmidt/
 http://allcreatureconnections.org





From: Jason Katie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] THE TRUTH BEHIND THE VACCINE COVER-UP
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 16:14:44 -0500

it was in kansas city about

Re: [Biofuel] THE TRUTH BEHIND THE VACCINE COVER-UP

2006-10-18 Thread bob allen
D. Mindock wrote:
 Here is a treasure trove of the fallacies of vaccination. If some weak 
 people insist on getting
 vaccinated, fine. But it goes over the line when they force others to get 
 vaccinated as well. And that
 is what is happening. Big Pharma wants total control of your body. And they 
 are inducing weak
 politicians to make the laws necessary.
 http://www.shirleys-wellness-cafe.com/vaccines.htm
   

here is a gem from your antivax site:


*HOMEOPATHY IS RENOWNED FOR ITS ABILITY TO REDUCE OR REPAIR THE DAMAGE 
CAUSED BY VACCINES LIKE NOTHING ELSE CAN !* Homeopathy 
http://www.shirleys-wellness-cafe.com/homeopat.htmis noted for its 
success to antidote or remove the toxic effects of vaccines and to 
re-establish balance in the organism and restore health. Certain 
homeopathic remedies taken after/ /vaccination can minimize vaccine 
damage. A professional homeopath 
http://www.homeopathy-cures.com/html/referrals_to_homeopaths.html 
should be consulted for more. 


what a joke.   Homeopathy is the easiest of alt ernative medicines to 
discredit. Anyone who can count, should understand.



 
 From AAPS:
   

what is the AAPS ?  google gives numerous organisations that  use those 
initials

 The Physician's Desk Reference cites adverse reactions to the hepatitis B in 
 less than 1 percent. However, if more than 70 million American children 
   
 receive the vaccine, that means more than 700,000 children are likely to 
 suffer adverse reactions.
   
Hepatitis B virus (HBV) is a common cause of liver disease throughout 
the world. An estimated one third of the world's population has 
serologic evidence of past infection, and the virus causes more than 1 
million deaths annually.1 In the United States, the incidence of HBV 
infection declined from about 14 cases per 100,000 population in the 
mid-1980s to about three cases per 100,000 population in 1998.2 However, 
there are still 1.25 million adults and children in the United States 
with chronic HBV infection. 


 Children are a very low risk group for hepatitis B.
unless exposed during birth:

  Primary risk factors are 
 dependent on lifestyle, i.e. multiple sex partners, drug abuse or an 
 occupation with exposure to blood.
   


http://www.doh.state.fl.us/disease_ctrl/immune/hep_b/index.htm

HBV infection is a serious health problem in the United States. 
Transmission of HBV from mother to infant during the perinatal period 
confers the greatest risk of chronic infection or death from HBV-related 
chronic liver disease. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention 
(CDC) estimates that between 454 and 751 HBsAg-positive Florida women 
give birth each year; without prophylaxis, 45-100 infants would become 
infected with HBV. Ninety to 95 percent of these potential infections 
may be avoided through appropriate maternal screening and infant 
immunoprophylaxis.


 Rampant conflicts of interest in the approval process has been the subject 
 of several Congressional hearings, and a recent Congressional report 
 concluded that the pharmaceutical industry has indeed exerted undue 
 influence on mandatory vaccine legislation toward its own financial 
 interests.

 The vaccine approval process has also been contaminated by flawed or 
 incomplete clinical trials, and government officials have chosen to ignore 
 negative results. For example, the CDC was forced to withdraw its 
 recommendation of the rotavirus vaccine within one year of approval. Yet 
 public documents obtained by AAPS show that the CDC was aware of alarmingly 
 high intussuception rates months before the vaccine was approved and 
 recommended.

 Mandatory vaccines violate the medical ethic of informed consent. A case 
 could also be made that mandates for vaccines by school districts and 
 legislatures is the de facto practice of medicine without a license.

 The CDC's own Guide to Contraindications to Childhood Vaccination warns 
 that when assessing children's common symptoms, if any one of them is a 
 contraindication, DO NOT VACCINATE [caps added]. And yet, under legislated 
 mandates, the vaccines are still required.

 End AAPS excerpt.

 IMO, mandatory vaccinations are not Constitutional. We have nothing if we 
 have no control over our own
 bodies against outside forces. If my home is my castle, then what is my 
 body?
   
part of a public health program?


 Peace, D. Mindock  P.S. Marilynn, thanks for this topic as it hits home to 
 what this country is becoming.

 - Original Message - 
 From: Marylynn Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
 Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 6:19 PM
 Subject: Re: [Biofuel] THE TRUTH BEHIND THE VACCINE COVER-UP


   
 All those bumper stickers loudly proclaiming that Abortion Is Not A 
 Medical
 Procedure has always made me wonder if the average individual actually 
 knows
 that Childbirth is Not a Medical Procedure Either.

 Historically the midwife (mid-wiff-ery) or the village medicine woman
 assisted with the help

Re: [Biofuel] THE TRUTH BEHIND THE VACCINE COVER-UP

2006-10-16 Thread Jason Katie
it was in kansas city about a month ago, all of the stuff was standard 
issue, but the fact that i couldnt be involved because of HIPAA really 
pissed me off. i had already threatened to hurt one of the clerks because 
they couldnt legally tell me, ME- HER FRAGGING HUSBAND!, anything about my 
wife's health in the months prior to the birth. i dont like to talk about 
it, it just makes me mad again.
Jason
ICQ#:  154998177
MSN:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
- Original Message - 
From: robert and benita rabello [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 12:39 AM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] THE TRUTH BEHIND THE VACCINE COVER-UP


 Jason Katie wrote:

they made my wife sign the papers for the boys' vaccinations when she was 
in
labor.  just exactly how in the hell is someone supposed to read all that
legal garbage when they are in recurring intense pain?



That's ridiculous!

Where did this happen?

 they wouldnt let me
read any of it, and said since i was not the patient, i could not sign
anything. out of paranoia i demanded to see all the labels before the
vaccines were used, but they were single doses only good for about an hour
outside of refrigeration, and had no preservatives, but it still makes me
mad.



When were the vaccinations administered?

ANYWAYS, back to my original thought, i had a lot of sleeping problems and
supposed ADD when i was in school, but i also had a really rotten habit of
only eating one huge meal a day(dinner), and surviving on caffeine drinks
during classtime. hmm, i wonder why i had so many problems growing up...



As I had written:  Learning problems are often the result of complex
 interactions . . .

 robert luis rabello
 The Edge of Justice
 Adventure for Your Mind
 http://www.newadventure.ca

 Ranger Supercharger Project Page
 http://www.members.shaw.ca/rabello/


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Re: [Biofuel] THE TRUTH BEHIND THE VACCINE COVER-UP

2006-10-16 Thread Marylynn Schmidt
All those bumper stickers loudly proclaiming that Abortion Is Not A Medical 
Procedure has always made me wonder if the average individual actually knows 
that Childbirth is Not a Medical Procedure Either.

Historically the midwife (mid-wiff-ery) or the village medicine woman 
assisted with the help of the women of the family .. but back a couple of 
thousand years with the rise of the church any woman with herbal knowledge 
was branded as a witch and disposed of .. and THEN the church got to 
confiscated any property she may have owned .. glory be.

.. and so the present day medical profession was born .. and the medical 
profession will tell you all the horror stories about all the things that 
can go wrong in gory detail.

The reality is that things can go wrong with a tooth extraction but the 
majority of births in the majority of countries are normal, go well and the 
living child is healthy.

It almost sounds as if the hospital environment was a well timed hostage 
situation with that paper work.

Perhaps it is time to reconsider finding a midwife.

.. Or .. I don't have the details right now, but I believe a congresswoman 
(forgotten name for now) DEMANDED that the vaccine safety studies include 
the 3 separate non-vaccinated groups that exist here in the United States 
and be compare, side by side with those that have been vaccinated.

.. the pharmas  company have been reluctant to include them in their 
studies .. humm

One large group is the Amish .. a Second large group is the Home Schooled .. 
and the Third group was a medical practice in the Illinois/Kansas area.

Medical doctors who assist in your home who do not vaccinate .. wow .. you 
would wonder why the AMA hasn't shut those suckers down!!

Mary Lynn
Rev. Mary Lynn Schmidt, Ordained Minister
ONE SPIRIT ONE HEART
TTouch . Reiki . Pet Loss Grief Counseling . Animal Behavior Modification . 
Shamanic Spiritual Travel . Behavior Problems . Psionic Energy Practitioner 
. Radionics . Herbs . Dowsing . Nutrition . Homeopathy . Polarity .
The Animal Connection Healing Modalities
http://members.tripod.com/~MLSchmidt/
http://allcreatureconnections.org





From: Jason Katie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] THE TRUTH BEHIND THE VACCINE COVER-UP
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 16:14:44 -0500

it was in kansas city about a month ago, all of the stuff was standard
issue, but the fact that i couldnt be involved because of HIPAA really
pissed me off. i had already threatened to hurt one of the clerks because
they couldnt legally tell me, ME- HER FRAGGING HUSBAND!, anything about my
wife's health in the months prior to the birth. i dont like to talk about
it, it just makes me mad again.
Jason
ICQ#:  154998177
MSN:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
- Original Message -
From: robert and benita rabello [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 12:39 AM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] THE TRUTH BEHIND THE VACCINE COVER-UP


  Jason Katie wrote:
 
 they made my wife sign the papers for the boys' vaccinations when she 
was
 in
 labor.  just exactly how in the hell is someone supposed to read all 
that
 legal garbage when they are in recurring intense pain?
 
 
 
 That's ridiculous!
 
 Where did this happen?
 
  they wouldnt let me
 read any of it, and said since i was not the patient, i could not sign
 anything. out of paranoia i demanded to see all the labels before the
 vaccines were used, but they were single doses only good for about an 
hour
 outside of refrigeration, and had no preservatives, but it still makes 
me
 mad.
 
 
 
 When were the vaccinations administered?
 
 ANYWAYS, back to my original thought, i had a lot of sleeping problems 
and
 supposed ADD when i was in school, but i also had a really rotten habit 
of
 only eating one huge meal a day(dinner), and surviving on caffeine 
drinks
 during classtime. hmm, i wonder why i had so many problems growing up...
 
 
 
 As I had written:  Learning problems are often the result of complex
  interactions . . .
 
  robert luis rabello
  The Edge of Justice
  Adventure for Your Mind
  http://www.newadventure.ca
 
  Ranger Supercharger Project Page
  http://www.members.shaw.ca/rabello/
 
 
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Re: [Biofuel] THE TRUTH BEHIND THE VACCINE COVER-UP

2006-10-15 Thread robert and benita rabello
Marylynn Schmidt wrote:

 Quite long but interesting.


Quite long, indeed!

Here's a quote:

   Dr. Johnson says on page 17, We agree that it would be
desirable to remove mercury from U.S. licensed vaccines, but we did not
agree that this was a universal recommendation that we would make because
of the issue concerning preservatives for delivering vaccines to other
countries, particularly developing countries, in the absence of hard data
that implied that there was in fact a problem.

In other words, there isn't any hard evidence of a problem.  Vaccine 
preservatives have been used since the 1930's, so we should be seeing a 
very large impact across the population.  If the follow-up study in the 
Seychelles indicates poor recall among children exposed to environmental 
mercury from fish, we should be noting a corresponding decline in memory 
function among immunized people elsewhere, if in fact, exposure to 
thimerosal in vaccines can be equated with the dietary intake of 
mercury-contaminated fish.  (Can it be?)
   
So if the link between thimerosal and developmental defects, ADD and 
other cognitive problems is causal, why do we not see generalized 
evidence of this within the population?  I've been immunized, as have my 
sisters, my wife, her brother and his wife, and all of our children, yet 
none of us exhibits any symptoms of impaired neurodevelopment.

I don't want to dismiss you, nor do I wish to stop the recent 
discussion.  It seems, however, that we have a camp of people who find 
danger in Western medicine and seem very willing to discard the entire 
corpus of knowledge humanity has developed from the occidental 
perspective.  I think the case in the article is overstated.  For example:

   In other words, both of these studies tell us nothing about the 
actual
development of these children's brain function except that they reached the
most basic of milestones. To put this another way, your child may be able
to stack blocks, recognize shapes and have basic language skills but later
in life they could be significantly impaired when it came to higher math,
more advanced language skills (comprehension) and ability to compete in a
very competitive intellectual environment, like college or advanced
schooling. Their future would be limited to the more mundane and
intellectually limited jobs.

That may be true with or without exposure to thimerosal in 
vaccines.  I work with children who have learning disabilities, and it's 
not possible to uncover a singular cause that explains the breadth and 
depth of learning issues in children.  Often, multiple causes synergize, 
ranging from utterly ineffective teaching all the way down the scale to 
serious, organic brain dysfunction.

I had no trouble and no regret authorizing vaccinations for my 
children.  Neither of them suffer from neurological problems.  They're 
doing well in school, too.  Yet I've talked to clients whose children 
are the same ages as mine, who attribute their children's learning 
difficulties to vaccinations.  When I ask these concerned parents about 
diet, sleep, exercise and water consumption, they're very quick to 
dismiss any link between something as obvious as sleep and their child's 
brain development.

Sigh . . .

robert luis rabello
The Edge of Justice
Adventure for Your Mind
http://www.newadventure.ca

Ranger Supercharger Project Page
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Re: [Biofuel] THE TRUTH BEHIND THE VACCINE COVER-UP

2006-10-15 Thread Jason Katie
SNIP
I had no trouble and no regret authorizing vaccinations for my
 children.  Neither of them suffer from neurological problems.  They're
 doing well in school, too.  Yet I've talked to clients whose children
 are the same ages as mine, who attribute their children's learning
 difficulties to vaccinations.  When I ask these concerned parents about
 diet, sleep, exercise and water consumption, they're very quick to
 dismiss any link between something as obvious as sleep and their child's
 brain development.

Sigh . . .

 robert luis rabello
 The Edge of Justice
 Adventure for Your Mind
 http://www.newadventure.ca


they made my wife sign the papers for the boys' vaccinations when she was in 
labor.  just exactly how in the hell is someone supposed to read all that 
legal garbage when they are in recurring intense pain? they wouldnt let me 
read any of it, and said since i was not the patient, i could not sign 
anything. out of paranoia i demanded to see all the labels before the 
vaccines were used, but they were single doses only good for about an hour 
outside of refrigeration, and had no preservatives, but it still makes me 
mad.
ANYWAYS, back to my original thought, i had a lot of sleeping problems and 
supposed ADD when i was in school, but i also had a really rotten habit of 
only eating one huge meal a day(dinner), and surviving on caffeine drinks 
during classtime. hmm, i wonder why i had so many problems growing up...
Jason
ICQ#:  154998177
MSN:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
SNIP



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Re: [Biofuel] THE TRUTH BEHIND THE VACCINE COVER-UP

2006-10-15 Thread robert and benita rabello
Jason Katie wrote:

they made my wife sign the papers for the boys' vaccinations when she was in 
labor.  just exactly how in the hell is someone supposed to read all that 
legal garbage when they are in recurring intense pain?



That's ridiculous!

Where did this happen?

 they wouldnt let me 
read any of it, and said since i was not the patient, i could not sign 
anything. out of paranoia i demanded to see all the labels before the 
vaccines were used, but they were single doses only good for about an hour 
outside of refrigeration, and had no preservatives, but it still makes me 
mad.
  


When were the vaccinations administered?

ANYWAYS, back to my original thought, i had a lot of sleeping problems and 
supposed ADD when i was in school, but i also had a really rotten habit of 
only eating one huge meal a day(dinner), and surviving on caffeine drinks 
during classtime. hmm, i wonder why i had so many problems growing up...
  


As I had written:  Learning problems are often the result of complex 
interactions . . . 

robert luis rabello
The Edge of Justice
Adventure for Your Mind
http://www.newadventure.ca

Ranger Supercharger Project Page
http://www.members.shaw.ca/rabello/


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