Re: [Biofuel] The myth behind non-taxable, off-road fuel was Re: There derrivatives of Barrel Oil, have you wondered ?

2005-08-29 Thread Chris Chuck McGuire
Here in Montana the differrence is $0.50 per gallon.  And that is 
probably why the Highway Patrol and GVW departments are advertisiing 
about the illegality of using dyed fuel in your on-road vehicle.  Of 
course, they have to have probable cause to stop you to dip your tank...

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[Biofuel] The myth behind non-taxable, off-road fuel was Re: There derrivatives of Barrel Oil, have you wondered ?

2005-08-28 Thread Appal Energy
That's only partially true. Compare the price of off-road and on-road 
diesel. You'll note that the difference is not the approximate $0.50 in 
state and federal excise taxes assessed per gallon. It's closer to $0.25 
per gallon.

The petroleum distributors claim that it costs approximately $0.25 per 
gallon to dye the off-road fuel and then carry the two separate inventories.

While part of that argument holds water, most off-road fuel is sold in 
bulk quantities by specific distributors, not every island at every fuel 
depot.

Essentially, the tax break the government giveth, the petroleum 
distributors taketh away.

Todd Swearingen


Marty Phee wrote:

The reason you pay taxes on gas, diesel or biofuel is for road 
construction and repair.

Hence farmers and off road equipment do not pay taxes on the fuel they 
use.  That's why it's dyed and why you go to jail if found using it on 
road.  Tax evasion.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  

Have you ever wondered why all oil companies sell barrel oil at the same 
price ? Scenario; Could it be that all the oil companies are owned by one 
parent company? why not most other large companies do the same thing, they 
will have a offshore corporation who will own an onshore LLC or LTD. The 
company I work for does the same thing, the parent company is in Sweden where 
foreign source profits are non-taxable, meanwhile it's workers onshore are 
the ones paying taxes, certainly not them, but taxes are a different animal 
for another discussion group. A couple other things I do not understand, one 
; if we have gained control of a large infrastucture oil producing country 
why is the price of gasoline still going so high? Did they do this for that 
objective ? Last thought.. As supposedly a free country why do we need a 
license and pay a tax to sell something that comes naturally out of the 
ground such as biofuel ? It seems that this may be a way to control the cost 
of that too.Myk 
HillNorth Carolina

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Re: [Biofuel] The myth behind non-taxable, off-road fuel was Re: There derrivatives of Barrel Oil, have you wondered ?

2005-08-28 Thread Marty Phee
The petroleum distributors claim that it costs approximately $0.25 per 
gallon to dye the off-road fuel and then carry the two separate inventories.

If that's true it's bullshit.  I've been to the terminals and worked on their 
systems.  The dye is added at the nozzel going into the truck, not in the 
storage vessel.  There aren't seperated storage tanks for off/on road diesel.  
Also, there's no way in hell it costs $0.25/gallon.  If it did that would be 
liquid gold given the amount actually added to the fuel.  


Appal Energy wrote:

That's only partially true. Compare the price of off-road and on-road 
diesel. You'll note that the difference is not the approximate $0.50 in 
state and federal excise taxes assessed per gallon. It's closer to $0.25 
per gallon.

The petroleum distributors claim that it costs approximately $0.25 per 
gallon to dye the off-road fuel and then carry the two separate inventories.

While part of that argument holds water, most off-road fuel is sold in 
bulk quantities by specific distributors, not every island at every fuel 
depot.

Essentially, the tax break the government giveth, the petroleum 
distributors taketh away.

Todd Swearingen


Marty Phee wrote:

  

The reason you pay taxes on gas, diesel or biofuel is for road 
construction and repair.

Hence farmers and off road equipment do not pay taxes on the fuel they 
use.  That's why it's dyed and why you go to jail if found using it on 
road.  Tax evasion.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 



Have you ever wondered why all oil companies sell barrel oil at the same 
price ? Scenario; Could it be that all the oil companies are owned by one 
parent company? why not most other large companies do the same thing, they 
will have a offshore corporation who will own an onshore LLC or LTD. The 
company I work for does the same thing, the parent company is in Sweden 
where foreign source profits are non-taxable, meanwhile it's workers onshore 
are the ones paying taxes, certainly not them, but taxes are a different 
animal for another discussion group. A couple other things I do not 
understand, one ; if we have gained control of a large infrastucture oil 
producing country why is the price of gasoline still going so high? Did they 
do this for that objective ? Last thought.. As supposedly a free country why 
do we need a license and pay a tax to sell something that comes naturally 
out of the ground such as biofuel ? It seems that this may be a way to 
control the cost of that too.Myk 
HillNorth Carolina

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