RE: [Biofuel] The ultimate bidiesel workshop class

2004-09-26 Thread Peggy

Thank you Keith.  You hit the nail on the head.  However there is a very
big need for teaching the technology.  We have become such an official
education oriented country that education is now one of our three
largest industries and growing.  So, to take the system to the masses,
the Internet is only piquing the imagination and not turning out many
real production facilities.  Anticipation of the bureaucracy and
red-tape inhibits many of us in the US.  It takes university-based
education to make a person feel empowered to move forward.  Ha!  JUST DO
IT!

By the way, the workshop agenda looks good.  Have a look see.  If I had
the time and money, I would attend just to hear their rap.  And I
appreciate Ron's references as well.

Peggy

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Subject: Re: [Biofuel] The ultimate bidiesel workshop class

Folks,

Iowa State University (USA) will host a biodiesel workshop conference
the
end of October.

It is five days long and covers everything from start to finish.

Here is the link to the workshop class:
http://www.me.iastate.edu/biodiesel/

Here is the link to the daily schedule of topics:
http://www.ucs.iastate.edu/mnet/biodiesel04/home.html

For Americans that joke about Iowa being a 'flyover' state, drop down
and
enjoy real hospitality!

 From the heartland of grain growing and the future world center of
ethanol
and biodiesel production!!!...

Ron B.

Hi Ron

World center? Well, good luck, it's a nice goal and all, but not very 
realistic, IMHO. Maybe you should just focus on doing as best you can 
and addressing more local challenges.

For one thing, Europe has a 20-year head start on you, especially 
Austria and Germany, they're way ahead, with biodiesel as they're way 
ahead with diesels themselves. And they're not hampered by the fact 
that soy and maize are not counted among the world's most ideal 
energy crops.

You're going to forge ahead of Brazil with ethanol? They're more than 
20 years ahead of you, with a lot of advantages, and they do sugar, 
not maize. I think you'll have a hard time keeping up with India, 
with biodiesel as well as ethanol. There are also some very 
interesting developments taking shape in Southeast Asia, and they're 
in a position to leapfrog quite a lot of obstacles that the US will 
face. Meanwhile there's Japan... which *looks* quiet right now, but 
don't believe it. They just made a big ethanol deal with Brazil... 
And the US has the Big Three, and the other Big Three - ADM, Monsanto 
and Cargill, and a bureaucracy that thinks they're much more 
important than biofuels.

Anyway, good luck.

Best

Keith

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[Biofuel] The ultimate bidiesel workshop class

2004-09-24 Thread rlbarber

Folks,

Iowa State University (USA) will host a biodiesel workshop conference the
end of October.

It is five days long and covers everything from start to finish.

Here is the link to the workshop class:
http://www.me.iastate.edu/biodiesel/

Here is the link to the daily schedule of topics:
http://www.ucs.iastate.edu/mnet/biodiesel04/home.html

For Americans that joke about Iowa being a 'flyover' state, drop down and
enjoy real hospitality!

From the heartland of grain growing and the future world center of ethanol
and biodiesel production!!!...

Ron B.

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Re: [Biofuel] The ultimate bidiesel workshop class

2004-09-24 Thread Keith Addison




Iowa State University (USA) will host a biodiesel workshop conference the
end of October.

It is five days long and covers everything from start to finish.

Here is the link to the workshop class:
http://www.me.iastate.edu/biodiesel/

Here is the link to the daily schedule of topics:
http://www.ucs.iastate.edu/mnet/biodiesel04/home.html

For Americans that joke about Iowa being a 'flyover' state, drop down and
enjoy real hospitality!

From the heartland of grain growing and the future world center of ethanol
and biodiesel production!!!...

Ron B.


Hi Ron

World center? Well, good luck, it's a nice goal and all, but not very 
realistic, IMHO. Maybe you should just focus on doing as best you can 
and addressing more local challenges.


For one thing, Europe has a 20-year head start on you, especially 
Austria and Germany, they're way ahead, with biodiesel as they're way 
ahead with diesels themselves. And they're not hampered by the fact 
that soy and maize are not counted among the world's most ideal 
energy crops.


You're going to forge ahead of Brazil with ethanol? They're more than 
20 years ahead of you, with a lot of advantages, and they do sugar, 
not maize. I think you'll have a hard time keeping up with India, 
with biodiesel as well as ethanol. There are also some very 
interesting developments taking shape in Southeast Asia, and they're 
in a position to leapfrog quite a lot of obstacles that the US will 
face. Meanwhile there's Japan... which *looks* quiet right now, but 
don't believe it. They just made a big ethanol deal with Brazil... 
And the US has the Big Three, and the other Big Three - ADM, Monsanto 
and Cargill, and a bureaucracy that thinks they're much more 
important than biofuels.


Anyway, good luck.

Best

Keith

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