Re: [Biofuel] was...Our cash is becoming trackable
It's just a matter of time before the Girl Scouts get a hold of that technology. The next time I'm at the mall on a day when they're selling cookies, I won't be able to get rid of them by saying I'm broke. ...and you DON'T want to mess with Girl Scouts. They'll chase you for miles! - Redler AltEnergyNetwork <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Also, just think of the possabilities for merchants.With an RFID reader, they will be able to tell how much cashyou have in your wallettallex> ---Original Message---> From: Joe Street <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> Subject: Re: [Biofuel] was...Our cash is becoming trackable> Sent: 27 Jul '06 20:28> > well if the microwave or other high field strength methods can't be used> for fear of setting the money ablaze due to the embedded metalic strips,> I got a feeling a simple hammer blow might do the drick. LOL> > Joe> [snip]___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] was...Our cash is becoming trackable
ill have to look it up, but there are simpler ways of trashing RFID chips that dont involve torching your cash in the microwave. Jason ICQ#: 154998177 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "Doug Younker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, July 28, 2006 4:27 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] was...Our cash is becoming trackable > I'm sure there will be counter measures developed and, sold to those who > are not DIY bent. Anyway those who do invest in making use of RFID > are going to be sorely pissed when, when they discover, the rfid didn't > tell them how easily rfid "terrorists" will be able to disrupt it all > Doug, N0LKK > Kansas USA inc. > > > AltEnergyNetwork wrote: >> Also, just think of the possabilities for merchants. >> With an RFID reader, they will be able to tell how much cash >> you have in your wallet >> >> tallex > > ___ > Biofuel mailing list > Biofuel@sustainablelists.org > http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 > messages): > http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.4/402 - Release Date: 7/27/2006 > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.4/402 - Release Date: 7/27/2006 ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] was...Our cash is becoming trackable
I'm sure there will be counter measures developed and, sold to those who are not DIY bent. Anyway those who do invest in making use of RFID are going to be sorely pissed when, when they discover, the rfid didn't tell them how easily rfid "terrorists" will be able to disrupt it all Doug, N0LKK Kansas USA inc. AltEnergyNetwork wrote: > Also, just think of the possabilities for merchants. > With an RFID reader, they will be able to tell how much cash > you have in your wallet > > tallex ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] was...Our cash is becoming trackable
I think we might also be finding a lot of paper money with punch holes in them soon, ;) tallex > ---Original Message--- > From: Joe Street <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [Biofuel] was...Our cash is becoming trackable > Sent: 27 Jul '06 20:28 > > well if the microwave or other high field strength methods can't be used > for fear of setting the money ablaze due to the embedded metalic strips, > I got a feeling a simple hammer blow might do the drick. LOL > > Joe > > AltEnergyNetwork wrote: > > > Just wait a few more years until they add > > RFID tracking chips to all paper money. Goodbye to all > > "cash transactions". Barter system here we come, > > > > regards > > tallex > > > > > >> ---Original Message--- > >> From: robert and benita rabello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Our cash is becoming trackable > >> Sent: 27 Jul '06 19:37 > >> > >> bob allen wrote: > >> > >> >see > >> > >http://www.jacobsen.no/anders/blog/archives/2004/03/02/the_burning_20_dollar_bills.html > >> > > >> >and references therein > >> > > >> > > >> Get your daily alternative energy news Alternate Energy Resource Network 1000+ news sources-resources updated daily http://www.alternate-energy.net Next Generation Grid http://groups.yahoo.com/group/next_generation_grid/ Tomorrow-energy http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tomorrow-energy/ Alternative Energy Politics http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Alternative_Energy_Politics/ Earth_Rescue_International http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Earth_Rescue_International/ > >> > >> ___ > > > > > > > > Get your daily alternative energy news > > > > Alternate Energy Resource Network > > 1000+ news sources-resources > > updated daily > > > > http://www.alternate-energy.net > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Next Generation Grid > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/next_generation_grid/ > > > > > > Tomorrow-energy > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tomorrow-energy/ > > > > > > Alternative Energy Politics > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Alternative_Energy_Politics/ > > > > > > Earth_Rescue_International > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Earth_Rescue_International/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Biofuel mailing list > >> Biofuel@sustainablelists.org > >> http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org > >> > >> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > >> http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > >> > >> Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 > messages): > >> http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ > >> > >> > > > > > > ___ > > Biofuel mailing list > > Biofuel@sustainablelists.org > > http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org > > > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > > > Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 > messages): > > http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ > > > > > > > > > ___ > Biofuel mailing list > Biofuel@sustainablelists.org > http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): > http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ > > ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] was...Our cash is becoming trackable
Also, just think of the possabilities for merchants. With an RFID reader, they will be able to tell how much cash you have in your wallet tallex > ---Original Message--- > From: Joe Street <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [Biofuel] was...Our cash is becoming trackable > Sent: 27 Jul '06 20:28 > > well if the microwave or other high field strength methods can't be used > for fear of setting the money ablaze due to the embedded metalic strips, > I got a feeling a simple hammer blow might do the drick. LOL > > Joe > > AltEnergyNetwork wrote: > > > Just wait a few more years until they add > > RFID tracking chips to all paper money. Goodbye to all > > "cash transactions". Barter system here we come, > > > > regards > > tallex > > > > > >> ---Original Message--- > >> From: robert and benita rabello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Our cash is becoming trackable > >> Sent: 27 Jul '06 19:37 > >> > >> bob allen wrote: > >> > >> >see > >> > >http://www.jacobsen.no/anders/blog/archives/2004/03/02/the_burning_20_dollar_bills.html > >> > > >> >and references therein > >> > > >> > > >> > >> That makes way more sense. > >> > >> On my recent trip to California, I was dismayed to learn that > >> gasoline purchases with a credit card now require the customer to insert > >> his zip code. You have NO idea how difficult it was to get some of the > >> dolts who work at gas stations to comprehend that I don't HAVE a zip > >> code. (Our postal codes in Canada, like the British, are alphanumeric.) > >> > >> This is supposedly done to prevent credit card fraud. I guess > >> they'll soon be asking me to press my forehead against the scanner, right? > >> > >> > >> robert luis rabello > >> "The Edge of Justice" > >> Adventure for Your Mind > >> http://www.newadventure.ca > >> > >> Ranger Supercharger Project Page > >> http://www.members.shaw.ca/rabello/ > >> > >> > >> ___ > > > > > > > > Get your daily alternative energy news > > > > Alternate Energy Resource Network > > 1000+ news sources-resources > > updated daily > > > > http://www.alternate-energy.net > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Next Generation Grid > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/next_generation_grid/ > > > > > > Tomorrow-energy > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tomorrow-energy/ > > > > > > Alternative Energy Politics > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Alternative_Energy_Politics/ > > > > > > Earth_Rescue_International > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Earth_Rescue_International/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Biofuel mailing list > >> Biofuel@sustainablelists.org > >> http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org > >> > >> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > >> http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > >> > >> Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 > messages): > >> http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ > >> > >> > > > > > > ___ > > Biofuel mailing list > > Biofuel@sustainablelists.org > > http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org > > > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > > > Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 > messages): > > http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ > > > > > > > > > ___ > Biofuel mailing list > Biofuel@sustainablelists.org > http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): > http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ > > ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] was...Our cash is becoming trackable
well if the microwave or other high field strength methods can't be used for fear of setting the money ablaze due to the embedded metalic strips, I got a feeling a simple hammer blow might do the drick. LOL Joe AltEnergyNetwork wrote: > Just wait a few more years until they add > RFID tracking chips to all paper money. Goodbye to all > "cash transactions". Barter system here we come, > > regards > tallex > > >> ---Original Message--- >> From: robert and benita rabello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Our cash is becoming trackable >> Sent: 27 Jul '06 19:37 >> >> bob allen wrote: >> >> >see >> >http://www.jacobsen.no/anders/blog/archives/2004/03/02/the_burning_20_dollar_bills.html >> > >> >and references therein >> > >> > >> >> That makes way more sense. >> >> On my recent trip to California, I was dismayed to learn that >> gasoline purchases with a credit card now require the customer to insert >> his zip code. You have NO idea how difficult it was to get some of the >> dolts who work at gas stations to comprehend that I don't HAVE a zip >> code. (Our postal codes in Canada, like the British, are alphanumeric.) >> >> This is supposedly done to prevent credit card fraud. I guess >> they'll soon be asking me to press my forehead against the scanner, right? >> >> >> robert luis rabello >> "The Edge of Justice" >> Adventure for Your Mind >> http://www.newadventure.ca >> >> Ranger Supercharger Project Page >> http://www.members.shaw.ca/rabello/ >> >> >> ___ > > > > Get your daily alternative energy news > > Alternate Energy Resource Network > 1000+ news sources-resources > updated daily > > http://www.alternate-energy.net > > > > > > > Next Generation Grid > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/next_generation_grid/ > > > Tomorrow-energy > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tomorrow-energy/ > > > Alternative Energy Politics > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Alternative_Energy_Politics/ > > > Earth_Rescue_International > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Earth_Rescue_International/ > > > > > > > > > >> Biofuel mailing list >> Biofuel@sustainablelists.org >> http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org >> >> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: >> http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html >> >> Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): >> http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ >> >> > > > ___ > Biofuel mailing list > Biofuel@sustainablelists.org > http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): > http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ > > > ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] was...Our cash is becoming trackable
Just wait a few more years until they add RFID tracking chips to all paper money. Goodbye to all "cash transactions". Barter system here we come, regards tallex > ---Original Message--- > From: robert and benita rabello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Our cash is becoming trackable > Sent: 27 Jul '06 19:37 > > bob allen wrote: > > >see > > >http://www.jacobsen.no/anders/blog/archives/2004/03/02/the_burning_20_dollar_bills.html > > > >and references therein > > > > > > That makes way more sense. > > On my recent trip to California, I was dismayed to learn that > gasoline purchases with a credit card now require the customer to insert > his zip code. You have NO idea how difficult it was to get some of the > dolts who work at gas stations to comprehend that I don't HAVE a zip > code. (Our postal codes in Canada, like the British, are alphanumeric.) > > This is supposedly done to prevent credit card fraud. I guess > they'll soon be asking me to press my forehead against the scanner, right? > > > robert luis rabello > "The Edge of Justice" > Adventure for Your Mind > http://www.newadventure.ca > > Ranger Supercharger Project Page > http://www.members.shaw.ca/rabello/ > > > ___ Get your daily alternative energy news Alternate Energy Resource Network 1000+ news sources-resources updated daily http://www.alternate-energy.net Next Generation Grid http://groups.yahoo.com/group/next_generation_grid/ Tomorrow-energy http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tomorrow-energy/ Alternative Energy Politics http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Alternative_Energy_Politics/ Earth_Rescue_International http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Earth_Rescue_International/ > Biofuel mailing list > Biofuel@sustainablelists.org > http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): > http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ > > ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
