Re: [Biofuel] was...was.. Bring loaded firearms aboard

2006-09-22 Thread DHAJOGLO
I believe I already alluded to this as the "Maple Curitan".  haha.

On Friday, September 22, 2006 11:13 AM, Paul S Cantrell wrote:

>Oh yeah?  Well, the US is going to build a freakin' 3,000 mile long fence
>along the 49th with canadian lumber and Mexican workers!
>
>(Tongue firmly planted in cheek)
>
>



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Re: [Biofuel] was...was.. Bring loaded firearms aboard

2006-09-22 Thread Doug Turner



Naturally, the wooden fence will be build by an aircraft 
company.  Please fasten your seat belts and ignore the lakes behind the 
curtain.

  -Original Message-From: 
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  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Paul S 
  CantrellSent: September 22, 2006 12:13 PMTo: 
  biofuel@sustainablelists.orgSubject: Re: [Biofuel] was...was.. 
  Bring loaded firearms aboardOh yeah?  Well, the US 
  is going to build a freakin' 3,000 mile long fence along the 49th with 
  canadian lumber and Mexican workers!(Tongue firmly planted in 
  cheek)
  On 9/22/06, Joe 
  Street <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
  wrote:
  I 
understand that illegal handguns seized in Canada are for the mostpart 
traced to US sources.  We need more border 
security.  Perhaps weshould create a department of homeland 
security.  Illegal weapons fromthe US are a threat to our 
national security. I move that we impose economic sanctions on the 
government of that country until they crackdown on the flow of handguns 
and other weapons that are leaking acrossthe border.  The 
citizens of this country are being terrorized by the US as a result of 
these weapons.JoeAltEnergyNetwork 
wrote:snip>Drive by shootings and gang killings hardly 
rate a mention in papers, yet in many countries like U.K, Canada, France and 
many others the death rate from firearm murders is a fraction of what it is 
in the U. S. Gun laws are much stricter and the result is much less 
slaughter. 
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Re: [Biofuel] was...was.. Bring loaded firearms aboard

2006-09-22 Thread Paul S Cantrell
Oh yeah?  Well, the US is going to build a freakin' 3,000 mile long fence along the 49th with canadian lumber and Mexican workers!(Tongue firmly planted in cheek)On 9/22/06, 
Joe Street <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I understand that illegal handguns seized in Canada are for the mostpart traced to US sources.  We need more border security.  Perhaps weshould create a department of homeland security.  Illegal weapons fromthe US are a threat to our national security. I move that we impose
economic sanctions on the government of that country until they crackdown on the flow of handguns and other weapons that are leaking acrossthe border.  The citizens of this country are being terrorized by the US
as a result of these weapons.JoeAltEnergyNetwork wrote:snip>Drive by shootings and gang killings hardly rate a mention in papers, yet in many countries like U.K, Canada, France and many others the death rate from firearm murders is a fraction of what it is in the U. S. Gun laws are much stricter and the result is much less slaughter.
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Re: [Biofuel] was...was.. Bring loaded firearms aboard

2006-09-22 Thread Joe Street
I understand that illegal handguns seized in Canada are for the most 
part traced to US sources.  We need more border security.  Perhaps we 
should create a department of homeland security.  Illegal weapons from 
the US are a threat to our national security. I move that we impose 
economic sanctions on the government of that country until they crack 
down on the flow of handguns and other weapons that are leaking across 
the border.  The citizens of this country are being terrorized by the US 
as a result of these weapons.

Joe

AltEnergyNetwork wrote:

snip

>Drive by shootings and gang killings hardly rate a mention in papers, yet in 
>many countries like U.K, Canada, France and many others the death rate from 
>firearm murders is a fraction of what it is in the U. S. Gun laws are much 
>stricter and the result is much less slaughter.
>
>  
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[Biofuel] was... was..Bring loaded firearms aboard

2006-09-22 Thread AltEnergyNetwork


Sounds cool, but big problem though.  Where are you going to be able to fly 
these wackos with out causing
"collateral damage" when one of them accidentally kills the pilot and the plane 
flys into a building a la WTC,

For a general rule though, I think maybe two armed air marshals would be a good 
idea on all flights. I would feel safer flying, anyway. The world has changed 
and we have to to cope with the stark realities of dangerous times.


regards
tallex


>  On 9/20/06, DHAJOGLO < [LINK: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Tallex,
>  
>  Don't be too harsh...  If they want an old west ariline where they can
>  have shoot outs then they should be able to have it.  Just because one nut
>  case came up with it doesn't mean other nut cases wouldn't love to fly such
>  an airline.  They need a place to shoot each other while smoking and
>  drinking, and at least they're secured in a metal tube away from the place
>  I like to go to smoke and drink!  hahaha.
>  
>  -dave
>  
>  On Wednesday, September 20, 2006  2:51 AM, "AltEnergyNetwork" wrote:
>  >
>  >Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 07:51:44 +
>  >From: "AltEnergyNetwork"
>  >To: [LINK: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  biofuel@sustainablelists.org
>  >Subject: [Biofuel] was..Bring loaded firearms aboard
>  >
>  >Yes, I can imagine 2 passengers having a few drinks, then getting in to
>  an arguement about something. One of them politely asks a flight attendant
>  for a few rounds to take out the other one...what fun. I think I'll pass on
>  those flights as well. Was this nut case, a conservative blogger by any
>  chance?
>  >
>  >regards
>  >tallex













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[Biofuel] was...was.. Bring loaded firearms aboard

2006-09-21 Thread AltEnergyNetwork

I agree with Doug,
although many americans believe it is their inaliable right to carry a gun.
The u.s. murder rate is atrocious. You are something like 40 times more likely 
to be killed if you have a gun in your home, than if you didn't. That does not 
preclude the fact that law enforcement should have bigger more powerfull guns 
that the thugs. The problem these days is there are far too many young punks 
running around with guns.
Drive by shootings and gang killings hardly rate a mention in papers, yet in 
many countries like U.K, Canada, France and many others the death rate from 
firearm murders is a fraction of what it is in the U. S. Gun laws are much 
stricter and the result is much less slaughter.
There is simply no valid reason for somebody to be able to by a piece of 
equipment that can spray out 1500 rounds a second unless they want to rob a 
bank or do a drive by. I may get the NRA after me, but I don't give a damn. Gun 
violence in the U.S. got out of hand years ago, the statistics are there for 
all to see. What ever happened to a good fist and drag em out to settle an 
arguement.

When and if it comes to social collapse, or crime infested neighborhoods most 
know where to get access to one legally or otherwise, so if it was a matter of 
survival and protecting property it is completely legitamate but it has almost 
gotten to the point where, you better have one because everyone else does and 
that is a glaring clue to a sick society.

regards
tallex

>  ---Original Message---
>  From: Doug Foskey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Bring loaded firearms aboard
>  Sent: 21 Sep '06 20:15
>  
>  I feel I really need to give the Australian Perspective on this:
>  I have to disagree with Chip.  I was raised around the premise that guns are
>  unnecessary.  I live in Australia where we have had gun removal legislation
>  for many years.  I have never felt the need to own a gun, & I do not know
>  anyone who actually does. Contrary to pro-gun propaganda, I
>  don't find myself roaming the streets looking for a confrontation. I have
>  prepared myself and never needed the tools to defend myself, my family and
>  others if need be.  I just hope that day will never come.  If it does, I
>  will be ready. I feel my family is much safer with neither our family, or any
>  of my neighbors owning firearms. (Some farmers own guns, but the guns are
>  usually small bore single shot, & must be stored in a lockable steel gun
>  case.)
>  I can honestly say I would be very worried that another passenger on a plane
>  (or really in any situation) was armed.
>  
>  regards Doug
>  PS: the Australian murder rate is a small fraction of the (percentage) rate 
> in
>  the US. It takes some guts to stab someone, or bash them. Anyone can pull a
>  trigger if they have access to a firearm.
>  
>  
>  
>  On Thursday 21 September 2006 5:11, Jason Schick wrote:
>  > I have to agree with Chip.  I was also raised around guns.  I live in
>  > Arizona where we have had concealed carry legislation for many years.  I
>  > have a permit and carry 95% of the time. Contrary to anti-gun propaganda, I
>  > don't find myself roaming the streets looking for a confrontation. I have
>  > prepared myself and given myself the tools to defend myself, my family and
>  > others if need be.  I just hope that day will never come.  If it does, I
>  > will be ready.
>  >
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