Re: [Biofuel] worth reading -an insight into politics and corporations - 4% of population is psychopathic
Or, it takes a certain degree of madness to be sane in this world. You have to be a touch crazy to be able to be happy and go on with your life given what's going on. -Weaver Kirk McLoren wrote: Of course there is a distribution but there is demarcation. A criteria is set and 4% +- some deviation qualify as full blown nutters. We arent injection molded thermoplastic caricatures. There is a living dynamic. But the author builds a good case that there is a 4% you wouldnt leave alone with your children. Nor should you leave them in office. Or on a board of directors etc etc. poor perception and slow learning were in the next 16%. They are the people that exhibit psychopathic behavior if their boss is a psychopath. On their own they are somewhat inhibited. The 4% are worse. Much worse. These 4% are destroying civilization while the sheep look for the good in man. The sheep better deal with the wolves. It isnt getting better on its own. http://www.cassiopaea.org/cass/sanity_1.PdF Read the classic, and the article. Then decide if the author is chicken little and the sky is falling. Kirk */[EMAIL PROTECTED]/* wrote: While I haven't read the books, I would be inclined to suspect that the population is not divided into a small minority who are 100% sociopathic plus a majority who are not at all sociopathic, but that there is something like a continuum with the pure sociopaths at one end. I suspect further that there might be several factors involved, perhaps * slow social learning; Eysenck's extraversion * poor perception of other peoples' feelings * indifference to other peoples' feelings Doug Woodard St. Catharines, Ontario, Canada On Sat, 5 Aug 2006, Kirk McLoren wrote: http://cassiopaea.com/cassiopaea/psychopath.htm Provided you are not forcibly stopped, you can do anything at all. If you are born at the right time, with some access to family fortune, and you have a special talent for whipping up other people's hatred and sense of deprivation, you can arrange to kill large numbers of unsuspecting people. With enough money, you can accomplish this from far away, and you can sit back safely and watch in satisfaction. [...] Crazy and frightening - and real, in about 4 percent of the population [snip] ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ Do you Yahoo!? Get on board. You're invited http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=40791/*http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/handraisers to try the new Yahoo! Mail Beta. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] worth reading -an insight into politics and corporations - 4% of population is psychopathic
Crrraaazy!? What's that?Remember the movie One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest? It was actually dangerous to have your emotions (relatively) in balance.- RedlerMike Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or, it takes a certain degree of madness to be sane in this world. You have to be a touch crazy to be able to be happy and go on with your life given what's going on.-WeaverKirk McLoren wrote: Of course there is a distribution but there is demarcation. A criteria is set and 4% +- some deviation qualify as full blown nutters. We arent injection molded thermoplastic caricatures. There is a living dynamic. But the author builds a good case that there is a 4% you wouldnt leave alone with your children. Nor should you leave them in office. Or on a board of directors etc etc. poor perception and slow learning were in the next 16%. They are the people that exhibit psychopathic behavior if their boss is a psychopath. On their own they are somewhat inhibited. The 4% are worse. Much worse. These 4% are destroying civilization while the "sheep" look for the good in man. The sheep better deal with the wolves. It isnt getting better on its own. http://www.cassiopaea.org/cass/sanity_1.PdF Read the classic, and the article. Then decide if the author is chicken little and the sky is falling. Kirk */[EMAIL PROTECTED]/* wrote: While I haven't read the books, I would be inclined to suspect that the population is not divided into a small minority who are 100% sociopathic plus a majority who are not at all sociopathic, but that there is something like a continuum with the "pure" sociopaths at one end. I suspect further that there might be several factors involved, perhaps * slow social learning; Eysenck's "extraversion" * poor perception of other peoples' feelings * indifference to other peoples' feelings Doug Woodard St. Catharines, Ontario, Canada On Sat, 5 Aug 2006, Kirk McLoren wrote: http://cassiopaea.com/cassiopaea/psychopath.htm Provided you are not forcibly stopped, you can do anything at all. If you are born at the right time, with some access to family fortune, and you have a special talent for whipping up other people's hatred and sense of deprivation, you can arrange to kill large numbers of unsuspecting people. With enough money, you can accomplish this from far away, and you can sit back safely and watch in satisfaction. [...] Crazy and frightening - and real, in about 4 percent of the population [snip]___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] worth reading -an insight into politics and corporations - 4% of population is psychopathic
Crrraaazy!? What's that? Remember the movie One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest? It was actually dangerous to have your emotions (relatively) in balance. - Redler Emotional imbalance is not at all the same as being a psycho/sociopath. Psychopaths can't be described as emotionally imbalanced. Anyway, 4% of the population is way too high an estimate, IMHO. This is one distortion: learning were in the next 16%. They are the people that exhibit psychopathic behavior if their boss is a psychopath. I've asked this question before: Is Warren Anderson a psychopathic killer? See: http://snipurl.com/oxks [Biofuel] More about Bhopal In effect yes, but in fact he's just a corporate slave. If you allow corporations to behave as theyd like (?), they'll be sociopathic. Their nature (?) is to subordinate everything to the bottom line, which is inevitably sociopathic. See eg.: http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/msg62040.html Re: [Biofuel] I always new they were worthless Think I'll post this again: That said, part of my point is that corporations are a reflection of those humans making the big decisions at the top of the corporation. Not so. That's where we diverge. It's the other way round, but it's worse than a reflection. This isn't just my opinion or conjecture, it's solidly grounded and well established. It's an important subject here, often discussed, there are very good resources in the list archives on corporate nature and behaviour. Did you read the post about Leopold Kohr etc? If not have a read, if you will: http://snipurl.com/ox8m [Biofuel] the end of big biodiesel? Anyway, here's some info on a, um, retired CEO named Warren Anderson and a CEO named Michael Parker: http://snipurl.com/oxks [Biofuel] More about Bhopal Please give it a read, it's important to get the background straight. The bit about Anderson is towards the end. Do you think Bhopal was (is) an exception? There are those who present a substantial case for the Bhopal disaster being business-as-usual, it's a symbol of our times, not an exception. There's more in the archives about that too. Union Carbide knowingly and deliberately put the lives of an entire Indian city at risk in order to save $37.68 per day. The Ford Pinto was $10 each, wasn't it? That's all history now? Dream on! This is what it says about UC CEO Warren Anderson, after describing his role in it: #1 corporate criminal, ex-UC CEO Warren Anderson, an international fugitive from charges of culpable homicide and an extradition order from the government of India for the past 12 years after jumping bail there, was unearthed in 2002 by a UK newspaper and Greenpeace living a life of luxury in New York State. American authorities had always insisted they did not know his whereabouts. If a team of journalists and Greenpeace managed to track down India's most wanted man in a matter of days, how seriously have the U.S. authorities tried to find him all these years? asked Greenpeace campaigner Casey Harrell in the U.S. Greenpeace videotaped Anderson and handed him a warrant for his arrest. He denied who he was and then ran inside the house. The journalists discovered that Anderson's local golf club subscription costs $2700 a year, more than five times what Union Carbide's victims in Bhopal got for a lifetime of illness and suffering. Do you think his pals at the golf club think he's a brutal and remorseless mass-killer? Or that his wife and kids think that? I'm sure they all think he was just doing his job and got a raw deal, and so does he. So who's true nature is he reflecting, Mike? Human nature? His own nature? I'm sure he wouldn't poison his own kids. But check out the resources at the end of the message above to see what he did to other people's kids. Thousands of them, and it's still happening right now. Did he do it, or did Union Carbide do it? Is it Dow CEO Michael Parker who's continuing the atrocity, or is it Dow - who brought us Agent Orange, after all, among other things? http://www.safe2use.com/ca-ipm/01-05-05.htm Dow Chemical's Nasty Little Secret - Agent Orange Dump found under New Zealand Town Having read the whole Bhopal post, would you class this particular ongoing corporate behaviour as in any way sane by any human standards? It's totally psychopathic, right? But I very much doubt that Warren Anderson is a psychopath. And he didn't poison his own children. How about these CEOs though? http://snipurl.com/oxkx Re: [Biofuel] Cross Posted: Mercury Levels Rising: Report Release ... across the US, industrial wastes laden with heavy metals and other dangerous materials are being used in fertilizers and spread over farmland. The process, which is legal, saves dirty industries the high costs of disposing of hazardous wastes. Between 1990 and 1995, 600 companies from 44 different states sent 270 million pounds of toxic waste to farms and fertilizer companies across the country. What's
Re: [Biofuel] worth reading -an insight into politics and corporations - 4% of population is psychopathic
Thats what the author said - that as a result American society has to be somewhat psychotic. Thus we will travel halfway round the world to kill someone but not across the street to vote.KirkMike Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or, it takes a certain degree of madness to be sane in this world. You have to be a touch crazy to be able to be happy and go on with your life given what's going on.-WeaverKirk McLoren wrote: Of course there is a distribution but there is demarcation. A criteria is set and 4% +- some deviation qualify as full blown nutters. We arent injection molded thermoplastic caricatures. There is a living dynamic. But the author builds a good case that there is a 4% you wouldnt leave alone with your children. Nor should you leave them in office. Or on a board of directors etc etc. poor perception and slow learning were in the next 16%. They are the people that exhibit psychopathic behavior if their boss is a psychopath. On their own they are somewhat inhibited. The 4% are worse. Much worse. These 4% are destroying civilization while the "sheep" look for the good in man. The sheep better deal with the wolves. It isnt getting better on its own. http://www.cassiopaea.org/cass/sanity_1.PdF Read the classic, and the article. Then decide if the author is chicken little and the sky is falling. Kirk */[EMAIL PROTECTED]/* wrote: While I haven't read the books, I would be inclined to suspect that the population is not divided into a small minority who are 100% sociopathic plus a majority who are not at all sociopathic, but that there is something like a continuum with the "pure" sociopaths at one end. I suspect further that there might be several factors involved, perhaps * slow social learning; Eysenck's "extraversion" * poor perception of other peoples' feelings * indifference to other peoples' feelings Doug Woodard St. Catharines, Ontario, Canada Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2ยข/min or less.___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] worth reading -an insight into politics and corporations - 4% of population is psychopathic
Hi Kirk Thats what the author said - that as a result American society has to be somewhat psychotic. There's never been a phenomenon such as American society before, no society has ever been subjected to such intense manipulation as Americans have been especially over the last 30 years: More money was spent on advertising in 2005 than ever before -- $570 billion, about half of which was spent in the United States. The global figure is 11 times more than was spent in 1950, measured in constant dollars. Tip of the iceberg, it's not just the budgets, nor even the invisible part of the budgets - the scope, spread and reach of the opinion manufacturing industry is unprecedented, it's massively focused on the US, and most Americans are unaware of it, and of the dissonance between what they *know* and the reality. That's one definition of being nuts. How many Americans still think the WMDs were found, is it still a majority? I think so: A Harris Poll released July 21 found that a full 50 percent of U.S. respondents - up from 36 percent last year - said they believe Iraq did have the forbidden arms when U.S. troops invaded in March 2003, an attack whose stated purpose was elimination of supposed WMD. Other polls also have found an enduring American faith in the WMD story. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060806/ap_on_re_us/iraq_believing_wmd;_yl t=Alb.B3Q3w34T_AVb3V7thKis0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTA3ODdxdHBhBHNlYwM5NjQ- Half of U.S. still believes Iraq had WMD - Yahoo! News Faith. Hm. It says: People tend to become independent of reality in these circumstances, says opinion analyst Steven Kull. You said a few days ago most of the population is hypnotized - I am not sure how you would deprogram them. I have to agree. Thus we will travel halfway round the world to kill someone but not across the street to vote. Vote? In the US? Wouldn't that be another kind of madness? Einstein defined insanity as the belief that doing the same thing over and over and over again will yield different results. Wouldn't that apply to voting in the US these days? I mean, even it worked, vote for whom, the other business party? Vote for change? Not on the menu. Rather than face realities Americans say the voter turn-outs are so low because people are apathetic, but it's more likely the non-voters are simply being realistic. Remember this? People of the lie: http://www.amasci.com/maglev/levbill1.html The Pathological Dishonesty Disease And this? http://www.mindfully.org/Reform/2005/Mass-Delusion-Neurobiology11jan05.htm JASON BRADFORD / Energy Bulletin 11jan05 The Neurobiology of Mass Delusion The role model perhaps, or one of them: http://www.counterpunch.org/castro07302004.html Fidel Castro: The Pathology of George Bush Someone Should Give Lil' Caesar a Drink July 30, 2004 http://www.capitolhillblue.com/cgi-bin/artman/exec/view.cgi?archive=3 3num=5141 Capitol Hill Blue: Bush Taking Anti-Depressants to Control Mood Swings Jul 28, 2004, 08:09 http://www.infowars.com/print/Bush/bush_delusiona.htm New Information Shows Bush Indecisive, Paranoid, Delusional Capitol Hill Blue Jun 17, 2004 Cause or symptom, who can tell. Best Keith Kirk Mike Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or, it takes a certain degree of madness to be sane in this world. You have to be a touch crazy to be able to be happy and go on with your life given what's going on. -Weaver Kirk McLoren wrote: Of course there is a distribution but there is demarcation. A criteria is set and 4% +- some deviation qualify as full blown nutters. We arent injection molded thermoplastic caricatures. There is a living dynamic. But the author builds a good case that there is a 4% you wouldnt leave alone with your children. Nor should you leave them in office. Or on a board of directors etc etc. poor perception and slow learning were in the next 16%. They are the people that exhibit psychopathic behavior if their boss is a psychopath. On their own they are somewhat inhibited. The 4% are worse. Much worse. These 4% are destroying civilization while the sheep look for the good in man. The sheep better deal with the wolves. It isnt getting better on its own. http://www.cassiopaea.org/cass/sanity_1.PdF Read the classic, and the article. Then decide if the author is chicken little and the sky is falling. Kirk */[EMAIL PROTECTED]/* wrote: While I haven't read the books, I would be inclined to suspect that the population is not divided into a small minority who are 100% sociopathic plus a majority who are not at all sociopathic, but that there is something like a continuum with the pure sociopaths at one end. I suspect further that there might be several factors involved, perhaps * slow social learning; Eysenck's extraversion * poor perception of other peoples' feelings * indifference to other peoples' feelings Doug Woodard St. Catharines, Ontario, Canada
Re: [Biofuel] worth reading -an insight into politics and corporations - 4% of population is psychopathic
"Psychopaths can't be described as emotionally imbalanced."Sure. That makes sense. I think of a psychopath assomeone having a personality disorder which doesn't necessarily need to show any particular kind of emotion at all. Emotions aren't a prerequisite for amoral behavior (for example). Am I right?Anyway, I think the social commentaryin that film seems very fitting in many conversations about corporate behavior. Maybe the word I should have used in my observation is "compassion" rather than emotion.Although the story takes place in a mental institution, it doesn't exactly fit in this thread and I apologize if it's too far off topic. It's just that Nurse Ratched reminds me of some of the characters we see runningbig corporations.- RedlerKeith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Crrraaazy!? What's that?Remember the movie One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest? It was actually dangerous to have your emotions (relatively) in balance.- RedlerEmotional imbalance is not at all the same as being a psycho/sociopath. Psychopaths can't be described as emotionally imbalanced.Anyway, 4% of the population is way too high an estimate, IMHO. This is one distortion: learning were in the next 16%. They are the people that exhibit psychopathic behavior if their boss is a psychopath.I've asked this question before: Is Warren Anderson a psychopathic killer? See:http://snipurl.com/oxks[Biofuel] More about BhopalIn effect yes, but in fact he's just a corporate slave. If you allow corporations to behave as theyd like (?), they'll be sociopathic. Their nature (?) is to subordinate everything to the bottom line, which is inevitably sociopathic. See eg.:http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/msg62040.htmlRe: [Biofuel] I always new they were worthlessThink I'll post this again:That said, part of my point is that corporations are a reflection of those humansmaking the big decisions at the top of the corporation.Not so. That's where we diverge. It's the other way round, but it's worse than a reflection. This isn't just my opinion or conjecture, it's solidly grounded and well established. It's an important subject here, often discussed, there are very good resources in the list archives on corporate nature and behaviour.Did you read the post about Leopold Kohr etc? If not have a read, if you will:http://snipurl.com/ox8m[Biofuel] the end of big biodiesel?Anyway, here's some info on a, um, retired CEO named Warren Anderson and a CEO named Michael Parker:http://snipurl.com/oxks[Biofuel] More about BhopalPlease give it a read, it's important to get the background straight. The bit about Anderson is towards the end.Do you think Bhopal was (is) an exception? There are those who present a substantial case for the Bhopal disaster being business-as-usual, it's a symbol of our times, not an exception. There's more in the archives about that too. Union Carbide knowingly and deliberately put the lives of an entire Indian city at risk in order to save $37.68 per day. The Ford Pinto was $10 each, wasn't it? That's all history now? Dream on!This is what it says about UC CEO Warren Anderson, after describing his role in it:#1 corporate criminal, ex-UC CEO Warren Anderson, an international fugitive from charges of culpable homicide and an extradition order from the government of India for the past 12 years after jumping bail there, was unearthed in 2002 by a UK newspaper and Greenpeace living a life of luxury in New York State. American authorities had always insisted they did not know his whereabouts. "If a team of journalists and Greenpeace managed to track down India's most wanted man in a matter of days, how seriously have the U.S. authorities tried to find him all these years?" asked Greenpeace campaigner Casey Harrell in the U.S. Greenpeace videotaped Anderson and handed him a warrant for his arrest. He denied who he was and then ran inside the house. The journalists discovered that Anderson's local golf club subscription costs $2700 a year, more than five times what Union Carbide's victims in Bhopal got for a lifetime of illness and suffering.Do you think his pals at the golf club think he's a brutal and remorseless mass-killer? Or that his wife and kids think that? I'm sure they all think he was just doing his job and got a raw deal, and so does he.So who's true nature is he reflecting, Mike? Human nature? His own nature? I'm sure he wouldn't poison his own kids. But check out the resources at the end of the message above to see what he did to other people's kids. Thousands of them, and it's still happening right now. Did he do it, or did Union Carbide do it? Is it Dow CEO Michael Parker who's continuing the atrocity, or is it Dow - who brought us Agent Orange, after all, among other things?http://www.safe2use.com/ca-ipm/01-05-05.htmDow Chemical's Nasty Little Secret - Agent Orange Dump found under New Zealand TownHaving read the whole Bhopal post, would you class this particular ongoing corporate behaviour
Re: [Biofuel] worth reading -an insight into politics and corporations - 4% of population is psychopathic
While I haven't read the books, I would be inclined to suspect that the population is not divided into a small minority who are 100% sociopathic plus a majority who are not at all sociopathic, but that there is something like a continuum with the pure sociopaths at one end. I suspect further that there might be several factors involved, perhaps * slow social learning; Eysenck's extraversion * poor perception of other peoples' feelings * indifference to other peoples' feelings Doug Woodard St. Catharines, Ontario, Canada On Sat, 5 Aug 2006, Kirk McLoren wrote: http://cassiopaea.com/cassiopaea/psychopath.htm Provided you are not forcibly stopped, you can do anything at all. If you are born at the right time, with some access to family fortune, and you have a special talent for whipping up other people's hatred and sense of deprivation, you can arrange to kill large numbers of unsuspecting people. With enough money, you can accomplish this from far away, and you can sit back safely and watch in satisfaction. [...] Crazy and frightening - and real, in about 4 percent of the population [snip] ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] worth reading -an insight into politics and corporations - 4% of population is psychopathic
Of course there is a distribution but there is demarcation. A criteria is set and 4% +- some deviation qualify as full blown nutters. We arent injection molded thermoplastic caricatures. There is a living dynamic. But the author builds a good case that there is a 4% you wouldnt leave alone with your children. Nor should you leave them in office. Or on a board of directors etc etc. poor perception and slow learning were in the next 16%. They are the people that exhibit psychopathic behavior if their boss is a psychopath. On their own they are somewhat inhibited. The 4%are worse. Much worse. These 4% are destroying civilization while the "sheep" look for the good in man. The sheep better deal with the wolves. It isnt getting better on its own. http://www.cassiopaea.org/cass/sanity_1.PdF Read the classic, and the article. Then decide if the author is chicken little and the sky is falling.Kirk[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While I haven't read the books, I would be inclined to suspect thatthe population is not divided into a small minority who are 100% sociopathic plus a majority who are not at all sociopathic, but that there is something like a continuum with the "pure" sociopaths at one end.I suspect further that there might be several factors involved, perhaps* slow social learning; Eysenck's "extraversion"* poor perception of other peoples' feelings* indifference to other peoples' feelingsDoug WoodardSt. Catharines, Ontario, CanadaOn Sat, 5 Aug 2006, Kirk McLoren wrote: http://cassiopaea.com/cassiopaea/psychopath.htm Provided you are not forcibly stopped, you can do anything at all. If you are born at the right time, with some access to family fortune, and you have a special talent for whipping up other people's hatred and sense of deprivation, you can arrange to kill large numbers of unsuspecting people. With enough money, you can accomplish this from far away, and you can sit back safely and watch in satisfaction. [...] Crazy and frightening - and real, in about 4 percent of the population[snip]___Biofuel mailing listBiofuel@sustainablelists.orghttp://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.orgBiofuel at Journey to Forever:http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.htmlSearch the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages):http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ Do you Yahoo!? Get on board. You're invited to try the new Yahoo! Mail Beta.___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] worth reading -an insight into politics and corporations - 4% of population is psychopathic
http://cassiopaea.com/cassiopaea/psychopath.htm Provided you are not forcibly stopped, you can do anything at all. If you are born at the right time, with some access to family fortune, and you have a special talent for whipping up other people's hatred and sense of deprivation, you can arrange to kill large numbers of unsuspecting people. With enough money, you can accomplish this from far away, and you can sit back safely and watch in satisfaction. [...] Crazy and frightening - and real, in about 4 percent of the population The prevalence rate for anorexic eating disorders is estimated a 3.43 percent, deemed to be nearly epidemic, and yet this figure is a fraction lower than the rate for antisocial personality. The high-profile disorders classed as schizophrenia occur in only about 1 percent of [the population] - a mere quarter of the rate of antisocial personality - and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention say that the rate of colon cancer in the United States, considered "alarmingly high," is about 40 per 100,000 - one hundred times lower than the rate of antisocial personality. The high incidence of sociopathy in human society has a profound effect on the rest of us who must live on this planet, too, even those of us who have not been clinically traumatized. The individuals who constitute this 4 percent drain our relationships, our bank accounts, our accomplishments, our self-esteem, our very peace on earth. Yet surprisingly, many people know nothing about this disorder, or if they do, they think only in terms of violent psychopathy - murderers, serial killers, mass murderers - people who have conspicuously broken the law many times over, and who, if caught, will be imprisoned, maybe even put to death by our legal system. We are not commonly aware of, nor do we usually identify, the larger number of nonviolent sociopaths among us, people who often are not blatant lawbreakers, and against whom our formal legal system provides little defense. Most of us would not imagine any correspondence between conceiving an ethnic genocide and, say, guiltlessly lying to one's boss about a coworker. But the psychological correspondence is not only there; it is chilling. Simple and profound, the link is the absence of the inner mechanism that beats up on us, emotionally speaking, when we make a choice we view as immoral, unethical, neglectful, or selfish. Most of us feel mildly guilty if we eat the last piece of cake in the kitchen, let alone what we would feel if we intentionally and methodically set about to hurt another person. Those who have no conscience at all are a group unto themselves, whether they be homicidal tyrants or merely ruthless social snipers. The presence or absence of conscience is a deep human division, arguably more significant than intelligence, race, or even gender. What differentiates a sociopath who lives off the labors of others from one who occasionally robs convenience stores, or from one who is a contemporary robber baron - or what makes the difference betwen an ordinary bully and a sociopathic murderer - is nothing more than social status, drive, intellect, blood lust, or simple opportunity. What distinguishes all of these people from the rest of us is an utterly empty hole in the psyche, where there should be the most evolved of all humanizing functions. [Martha Stout, Ph.D., The Sociopath Next Door] (highly recommended) For those of you who are seeking understanding of psychopathy, Hervey Cleckley's book The Mask of Sanity, the absolutely essential study of the psychopath who is not necessarily of the criminal type. This book is no longer available. We have it scanned and our team of researchers spent two weeks going over the text carefully to eliminate text conversion errors. You may download the entire book FREE as a PDF from the link at left, top. (Read A Sample Chapter of The Mask of Sanity) Open multiple messages at once with the all new Yahoo! Mail Beta. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/